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How the IDA’s top client used Ireland to siphon billions offshore tax-free

Medical giant Abbott has deployed a complex network of offshore companies to legally shelter profits from tax officials.

IT HAS BEEN held up as one of Ireland’s biggest success stories in driving regional employment – a medical products giant with a 70-year history in the country and more than 3,000 staff dotted across 10 sites.

But Abbott, which has benefitted from around €50 million in IDA grants, has also deployed an aggressive tax avoidance structure to legally siphon billions in profits through Irish-registered companies to Bermuda, a notorious tax haven.

Meanwhile, through a myriad of subsidiaries and system of inter-company charges involving a variation on the infamous so-called ‘double Irish’ structure, its local operations have also legally shaved their tax bills with the Exchequer despite pulling in huge sales.

Most of the company’s financial dealings involving Ireland have been shrouded in secrecy until late last year, when EU-led changes to accounting rules exposed its subsidiaries to public view.

Since it was founded in Illinois just over 130 years ago, Abbott has steadily grown to become a global behemoth with more than 100,000 staff and over $30 billion in global sales.

Its interests span from making artificial replacement heart valves to selling protein drinks and snack bars. 

In Ireland, where it first set up a presence in 1946, the company operates manufacturing sites in several counties, making diagnostics tests in Lisnamuck, Co Longford, infant formula at Cootehill in Cavan, vascular devices at Clonmel in Tipperary and other products from sites in Sligo and Donegal.

It maintains that in the past five years, while adhering to all tax laws and regulations in Ireland, it has added €2 billion to the economy. 

The company’s main operations here are run through a Bermuda-registered company, Abbott Ireland, set up in 1983.

This company pays its taxes in Ireland. However it is owned outright by one of two Abbott subsidiaries incorporated in the Republic but resident in Bermuda, a country which has been labelled as the world’s worst corporate tax haven - and where no company taxes apply.

It is through these two companies that billions of Abbott’s income earned outside the US is funnelled.

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The Bermuda triangle

Abbott Ireland’s parent company, the Bermuda-resident Abbott Laboratories Vascular Enterprises (ALVE), had no staff on its books in 2017 but was listed as being responsible for sourcing and distributing the firm’s healthcare products and licensing its technology to related parties.

ALVE was incorporated in 2003 and reported a combined pre-tax profit of €1.96 billion in 2016 and 2017 on revenues of €5.2 billion. The firm’s registered office is listed as the address of its Dublin law firm, Matheson.

Its accounts noted that the firm would have owed €244.8 million in Irish corporate taxes at the full 12.5% rate, however that sum was reduced to zero due to its Bermuda residency.

The loophole, involving multinationals setting up Irish subsidiaries that are tax resident offshore, was closed to new entrants by then-finance minister Michael Noonan from 2015 after international pressure to crack down on tax avoidance.

However multinationals with the structure already in place were given until the end of 2020 to change the makeup of their subsidiaries.

In 2017, ALVE paid out dividends of €1.7 billion to its parent company, a sum that was followed with dividend payments totalling more than €1 billion in 2018.

As well as owning Abbott Ireland, it is the umbrella company for a string of international subsidiaries, including various firms based in the Netherlands, Belgium, Costa Rica, Gibraltar and the Bahamas.

The firm itself is a wholly owned offshoot of a second Irish-incorporated but Bermuda-resident operation, Abbott Products, a holding company that provides financing to other firms in the group.

This company, which also had no staff on its books, took in ALVE’s dividends and tens of millions in interest income in 2017, all of which were shielded from any company taxes.

Profits at the firm totalled more than $2 billion that year, a sum that would have resulted in a potential tax bill of $259.6 million (€229 million at current exchange rates) if the company had been resident in Ireland.

Abbott Products’ 2017 accounts include a note that from 2021 the company “may be regarded as tax resident in Ireland” assuming certain conditions weren’t met, meaning its worldwide taxable profits would be subject to Irish corporate tax after the ‘double Irish’ loophole closed permanently.

The company was sitting on accumulated profits of $7.1 billion at the end of 2017, worth some $887 million (€782 million today) in corporate taxes at Ireland’s full 12.5% rate.

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Hidden from view

Due to their ‘unlimited’ share structures, neither ALVE nor Abbott Products were required to file publicly accessible accounts under Irish laws, effectively concealing their finances.

However this changed late last year when accounting changes introduced on the back of an EU directive forced most unlimited firms to lodge annual accounts with the Companies Registration Office.

For this reason, it is not possible to determine the full scale or source of any profits garnered by either firm for the majority of the past decade.

Meanwhile, Abbott Ireland – the company’s main Irish operating arm with more than 3,000 staff on its payroll – is designated an ‘external company’ with a branch in the Republic, a structure that sheltered its finances from inspection for over three decades.

That also changed from 2017 with the new accounting rules. Abbott Ireland’s accounts for that year revealed that it reported turnover of nearly €1.6 billion in 2017 – up from €1.4 billion the previous year from distribution of its medical devices and nutritional products.

The billion-euro income was trimmed to a pre-tax profit of around €138 million for 2017 after €657 million was deducted in royalties for the use of the group’s intellectual property.

The company’s latest accounts show that Irish taxes of €19.4 million were due for the year, down from €23.9 million in 2016.

Other business

Abbott also owns a string of smaller subsidiaries in Ireland to handle aspects of the business like its local sales and distribution, international consulting and intra-group financing.

Abbott would not say how much corporate tax it had paid in Ireland across all its subsidiaries when contacted by TheJournal.ie, however a spokeswoman said that over the past five years it had contributed “almost €2 billion to the Irish economy” in taxes, payroll and purchases.

The company was “in full compliance with all local laws and regulations”, she added. A spokesman for the Revenue Commissioners said the agency could not comment on the affairs of individual taxpayers.

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Double Irish

Abbott was one of four major pharmaceutical firms whose tax affairs were put under the spotlight last year in an Oxfam report, which suggested the firm could be underpaying close to $200 million in annual taxes worldwide.

That was based on applying the same profit margin to Abbott’s sales in all territories without the firm shifting profits to low- or no-tax jurisdictions. Much of the sum was being stripped from the national finances of developing countries, the report said.

Abbott’s spokeswoman said the company was “a responsible and transparent taxpayer, paying all of its taxes owed in every country in which it operates around the world”. It previously labelled the Oxfam report misleading.

The company is just one of a string of multinationals to use Irish-registered companies resident in tax havens like Bermuda or the Cayman Islands in parallel with its main local operations: a structure that coined the ‘double Irish’ nickname several years ago.

These non-resident firms based in countries with which Ireland does not have a tax treaty are usually used to hold the companies’ valuable intellectual property, which the offshore entities license related firms to use.

Such structures are completely legal under Irish regulations as they stand.

Google has continued in recent years to use the loophole to funnel billions in profits to Bermuda, while Apple shifted two of its Irish-registered offshore subsidiaries to Jersey in response to increased criticism of its tax affairs and changes to local rules.

Abbott did not respond to a question on when it planned to discontinue its use of the tax-avoidance structures.

Abbott and Ireland Inc

For one of the State’s largest employers and a poster child for regional development, Abbott has traditionally kept a low profile, courting little publicity despite its presence in six counties.

Behind the scenes, however, the company has been more active, participating in trade missions to China, Vietnam and the Middle East in recent years alongside Minister for Agriculture Michael Creed.

The firm also met with Creed to make sure its interests were protected in the case of Brexit in late 2016, while in early 2017 then-housing minister Simon Coveney invited the company to make a presentation at the launch of the National Planning Framework.

Abbott has also been held up as a success in the government’s attempts to drive more regional development, with the company name-checked by Taoiseach Leo Varadkar in July for its investments in Donegal.

Similarly, it has been held up by government ministers as being among the most prominent IDA client companies in response to various questions about job opportunities being created in Tipperary, Sligo and Longford.

Over the past two years, Abbott has been the single biggest recipient of IDA grants, receiving €19.2 million in aid during the period. Total State grants to the company to date are estimated at around €50 million.

In a statement, a spokesman for IDA Ireland said the organisation’s role was to “win foreign investment for Ireland … an extremely competitive sector internationally”.

Grants were “matched and multiplied” by client companies and their provision was assessed based on the potential impact on job creation and other factors, he added.

Neither IDA Ireland nor the Department of Business, Enterprise and Innovation responded directly to questions on whether it screened client companies based on their use of Ireland-centred tax avoidance structures such as those deployed by Abbott. 

IDA Ireland said all its clients agreed binding contracts that tied the firms to confidential conditions and milestones before they received funding.

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The international spotlight

Despite its participation in international efforts to crack down on tax avoidance, Ireland’s resounding success in attracting multinationals has been accompanied by intense focus on its perceived cosy relationship with US tech and pharmaceutical firms. 

It was one of seven EU countries – alongside the likes of Belgium, the Netherlands and Malta – accused of displaying “traits of a tax haven” recently by a European Parliament committee on tax avoidance.

The government has repeatedly said Ireland does not meet any of the international standards – such as applying no company taxes or refusing to exchange tax information with other administrations – for being considered a tax haven.  

Nevertheless, the country’s dependence on foreign investment has placed it at the centre of an ongoing global tug-of-war over where large, usually American companies pay their taxes.

Heavyweight EU member states like France have been pushing for multinationals’ taxes to be more closely linked to where their sales are generated, while Irish officials argue the right approach is to levy taxes based on ‘value creation’ – through the likes of intellectual property, product development and staff.

For its part, the US until recently laid claim to domestic firms’ global profits – although taxes only applied when the money was brought into the country. This effectively  incentivised American firms to stockpile cash in offshore tax havens.

However under President Donald Trump-led changes introduced in late 2017, the US shifted to a “territorial system” like most other developed nations, meaning foreign profits would be taxed at their source.

As part of the changes, a reduced, one-time 15.5% ‘transition tax’ was payable on cash the firms were holding overseas, leading to a flurry of companies transferring offshore funds back to the US.

In the case of Abbott, US filings show the firm came up with an initial estimate that it owed $1.46 billion for the transition tax based on all the profits since 1986 that had previously been sheltered from the Internal Revenue Service.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 12:41 AM

    ‘Welfare cheats cheat us all’ – Leo Varadkar – Apr 18th 2017
    Looks like corporate cheats cheat us again and again and again, where`s Leo`s spin merchants on these ones?

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    Mar 19th 2019, 12:51 AM

    @Pixie McMullen: The big difference is Leo dosnt know anyone on welfare

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    Mar 19th 2019, 7:30 AM

    @Pixie McMullen: Those cheating robbing job creating corporates…..shame on them all. We should tax them harder and make them look for another country to set up their business and take all the jobs with them.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 7:52 AM

    @John Horan: We’re directly funding companies that compete against our own. Wouldn’t the 50 million in grants that this company has received have been better spent on companies from Ireland? Companies that would be required to pay tax and who won’t leave as soon as rule changes from the EU or US come in.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 8:11 AM

    @John Horan:
    Think you’ve missed the point here John.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 8:17 AM

    @Pixie McMullen: Leo is the friend of big business and stuff the common man, shows what a sleeveen he is.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 8:19 AM

    @Charles Alexander: you are dead right he has, he must be a big Leo fan

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    Mar 19th 2019, 8:21 AM

    @WilliamMorris: 50 million gets us…our own O ‘Apple and O’ Facebook and sure a Mc Google also

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    Mar 19th 2019, 8:51 AM

    @John Horan: how about we shut down the tax scams everywhere and they just pay their fair share of tax

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    Mar 19th 2019, 9:54 AM

    @Joan walsh: John is probably one of those that calls other people “the pay for nothing brigade”.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 10:24 AM

    @Ian Kavanagh: no I call them the ‘get paid for doing nothing

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    Mar 19th 2019, 11:23 AM

    @John Horan: I am self employed John and I employer others, does that mean so that I should pay no taxes because I employ others ?

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    Mar 19th 2019, 11:57 AM

    @John Horan: I never mentioned Apple or Google, I was talking about the 50 million gifted to Abbott. Last year they recieved 14 million, which is about €4,700 per employee. You don’t think an Irish tax resident company could produce baby formula with that kind of funding from government.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 11:59 AM

    @John Horan: listen lad they get to use our time infrastructure our highly educated workforce and our proximity to Europe now made more important with brexit. Multi billion dollar corporations pay a lower % of their profits the people on even the minimum wages is economic suicide unsustainable and unacceptable. You do understandstand the difference between wages and profits. Profits are taxed after al expenses are deducted. Things like rent transport etc etc. My wages are taxed before my expenses. So to sum up businesses are already given a massive advantage when it comes to tax. Nothing else is required

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    Mar 19th 2019, 1:34 PM

    @WilliamMorris: no it wouldn’t be better ‘spent’ on Irish companies as we don’t have any their size and structure & to state the obvious, I t’s grants not just money handed out. They’ve put in far more than they got back.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 1:36 PM

    @Joan walsh: Because they’d leave or not come here in the first place. We’re a small island on the edge of Europe.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 2:05 PM

    @Matt Connolly: So you’d only provide grants to Irish companies when they have the size and structure of Abbott, but you expect them to get to the same size while competing against a company that pays almost no taxes and recieves millions in grants per year from our government.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 5:58 PM

    @WilliamMorris: not at all what I said. Pathetic response.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 8:37 PM

    @John Horan: That’s a great idea John The tax take in Ireland is a bit over 50 Billion The corporation tax take in 10 Billion Almost all of this from foreign multinationals. Multinationals employ 229000 people who pay an average of 30000 a year in income tax That another6.5 billion Those people spend the balance of their money and pay vat on the stuff they buy so whatever that comes to. So we need to ask these cl o wns where are we going to get this money from when the leave if we start increasing the tax on them or better again we leave that nasty Eu

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    Mar 19th 2019, 1:22 AM

    Another story that paints the Goverement in a bad light and it’s put up in the dead of night.. The Journal is clearly a mouth piece for the Government these days and has lost all credibility.. The comment section is full of FG trolls, any story On DOB, Pat Hickey and John Delaney comments closed.. and to top it off any anti Government story is put up at midnight..

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    Mar 19th 2019, 5:56 AM

    @David Garland: totally agree… although i doubt the Journal was ever considered credible.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 6:24 AM

    @David Garland: Share Share Share. Get it out there.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 7:46 AM

    @David Garland: are you only realising that now, the journal has long since been a biased and unashamedly blatent mouthpiece for the government.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 8:54 AM

    @David Garland:

    You must get a different version of the Journal.ie than everyone else.

    It’s not rocket sciences re the comments. They are closed on those stories because the Journal doesn’t want a load of libel actions against them.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 4:10 AM

    While this is an excellent article, why was it appearing at about 1am? The equivalent of burying a newspaper story on page 25?

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    Mar 19th 2019, 6:35 AM

    @David A. Murray: because it’s not new, not news and covers over the fact it’s legal, creates jobs for over 3000 people and generated billions for the economy that was hard fought for.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 3:45 PM

    @David A. Murray: Best place to bury a body is page two of google search results :P

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    Mar 19th 2019, 1:09 AM

    This is absolutely scandalous … big business abdicating its civic and corporate responsibilities to the citizens and countries within which they operate …. as a consequence of their downright negligent and deceitful behaviour it of course falls to tbe ordinary joe tax payer to pony up more tax because sleeven corporates wont …. when will big business see the light and do the RIGHT thing which is to make your profit but give back and co tibute to society by paying your faor share ….. thia drives me wild

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    Mar 19th 2019, 3:35 AM

    Is anyone really that surprised ? Serious question

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    Mar 19th 2019, 5:57 AM

    @Ronan McDermott: serious answer… nope!

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    Mar 19th 2019, 6:08 AM

    FFG legacy..

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    Mar 19th 2019, 8:41 PM

    @Willy: 229,000 jobs in Ireland The best paying jobs too 10 Billion in corporation taxes received most of which comes from Fdi’s You are right its certainly not a legacy of the luney lefties or the shinners

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    Mar 19th 2019, 7:45 AM

    So they actually haven’t broke any laws. This should be about pure neglect from the government tax structure rather than the company

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    Mar 19th 2019, 8:07 AM

    @Shaun Gallagher: exactly. Every time I see the word loophole I think bad law. Loopholes can be closed. Don’t expect the beneficiary to do it.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 8:50 AM

    @GrumpyAulFella: Except loopholes in tax law don’t come about by mistake, they are created by design.

    Then the government can truthfully say that, wealthy individuals and corporate entities are taxed fairly just like the masses based on the letter of the law, while neglecting to mention that the loopholes put in place, in practice allow them to legally avoid ever paying those taxes.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 9:07 AM

    @David Van-Standen: just 10 high net worth individuals made up more than 85% of the total income tax take in 2018. Yes, they’re almost certainly using every loop hole available to reduce their tax liability, but no matter how you spin it, it’s their contributions which are funding our country. Tax them into non-existence and our country is dead in the water

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    Mar 19th 2019, 10:01 AM

    @David Van-Standen: true but it’s a trade off. There’s a reason why those loopholes exist and are not closed, they attract employers and keep our people off the scratcher and not dependent upon a decreased welfare budget to put bread on the table. No matter what way you look at it, these companies are net contributors to the state. Contributing enough? Perhaps not. Contributing within the boundaries of the law? Yes.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 7:08 AM

    It’s nice to see an article like this. It reminds me of what journalism should be. Thank you.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 3:45 AM

    Do we have to go
    Back to Jack Lynch to find our last meaningful government leader

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    Mar 19th 2019, 6:40 AM

    @Gerry Glynn: are you serious? That man was the original FF economic destroyer. Read your history

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    Mar 19th 2019, 8:49 AM

    @Justin McNulty: and now the hardest working people in the country work for €9.4/hour. As for destroying our country it was 19
    Years later before Farmers started paying any tax

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    Mar 19th 2019, 5:21 AM

    There’s only one man who could get to the heart of this matter, a mán who understands offshore finance, a man who has an accountants ability to comprehend the intricacies evolved in high finance, one who can balance the books,,,,,,,, Call in de Bert!!!!!!!!

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    Mar 19th 2019, 8:43 AM

    It is genuinely frightening to think that there are people out there who think this wrong for Ireland.

    A €50m grant is pittance compared to what it generates. 3000 staff at €60K per annum is €180m in direct salaries alone. 3000 people on the dole would be a direct cost of at least €60m. That’s €240m. It’s at least the same again in indirect costs, materials, shipping costs, packaging etc. That’s the guts of €500m euro per year into the economy because of Abbot.

    Save me the morality bit. There is not a single person in this country who would not legally minimise their tax payment where they could.

    These US multi Nationals would not be in Ireland except for the favourable tax regime. It is bordering on treasonous to in anyway put that into jeopardy.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 9:34 AM

    @CrabaRev: Where are you getting salaries of 60k per annum from???

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    Mar 19th 2019, 9:59 AM

    @Angie McKelvey: an operative on the floor with shift allowance would easily be taking €40,000 per annum. Add 12.5% employers PRSI. That’s the lower end of the scale. Tecnical/Engineering staff would be averaging €70k per annum. Mid level management on €90k to €120k That €60k average figure is conservative. These multinationals pay extremely well.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 10:49 AM

    @CrabaRev: Your way off the mark! General operative on the floor is classed as unskilled and wouldn’t get nowhere near 40k. I should know!

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    Mar 19th 2019, 11:17 AM

    @Angie McKelvey:

    I have worked in many multinationals. On operative on the floor of a pharmaceutical company easily earns €28K basic + 33% shift allowance + overtime, totalling over €40K per annum. The employer also pays an additional 12.5% PRSI contribution, that’s another €5K

    The average full time wage in Ireland in 2017 was €45K per annum, That includes minimum wage employees of which there are none in a US pharmaceutical company.

    €60K average including employer PRSI is a very conservative estimate.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 11:28 AM

    @CrabaRev: I’m sitting here looking at my pay slip from an multinational company and I can safely say your talking complete twaddle!!! 45k!!!! I bloody wish!!!

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    Mar 19th 2019, 11:44 AM

    @Angie McKelvey: Do you work for a pharmaceutical company on shift? I have worked in number US multinationals and Ia very familiar with the payments and pay scales across the board.

    You are probably on a day shift, with a small low tech multinational. Abbot are a large pharmaceutical company. There isn’t a comparison

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    Mar 19th 2019, 11:57 AM

    @CrabaRev:

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    Mar 19th 2019, 12:00 PM

    @CrabaRev: Don’t know why my reply to your delusional posting was removed but you’ll give me and my mates a good laugh later at work. Well done!

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    Mar 19th 2019, 12:27 PM

    @Angie McKelvey: There is nothing delusional about it.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 12:36 PM

    @Angie McKelvey:
    The average full time wage in Ireland in 2017 was €46,402. If you add 10.95% employers PRSI to that, it brings it to €51,483. Abbot would pay well above the average so €60K is a conservative figure.

    The fact that you can’t comprehend some simple maths might explain your predicament. It is nice, but a little sad, that you and your mates can laugh at the fact that you are paid below the average wage.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 1:32 PM

    @CrabaRev: you’re brain dead. These businesses get access to our infrastructure our educated workforce and Europe. They benifit via the profits they generate which already get favorable tax treatment when compared to humans. You understand and are aware of the difference in how wages and profits are taxed right? Profits are taxed after all expenses operating costs etc are deducted. Wages are not treated so favorably. Allowing multi billion dollar corporations pay a lower % of their profits, in many cases 0, then those on the minimum wage is unsustainable unacceptable and frankly economic suicide. We multiple crisis in health housing etc etc. These are badly needed revenues. Your argument is nonsense

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    Mar 19th 2019, 1:51 PM

    @CrabaRev: Delusional+1

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    Mar 19th 2019, 2:12 PM

    @Brian Conway:

    “Profits are taxed after all expenses operating costs etc are deducted” You don’t event understand what profits are and you are insulting my intelligence. I am still laughing at that one.

    You have no idea what you are talking about. What you just posted is absolute rubbish. You are typical of some of the people on here who think they have some knowledge of economics. Your post clearly shows you have none. Absolutely none.

    US multinationals pump billions into our economy every year. Whether that comes via taxes or wages is completely irrelevant. Would you prefer that Abbot paid €180 million per year in taxes in the US or that they €180 million in wages in Ireland? That’s the choice. Only an idiot would choose the first.

    The ONLY reason these companies are here is because of our favourable tax regime. They can get much better infrastructure and an equally educated workforce in Germany or France etc. If you think anything else you are deluded.

    You, my good sir, are definitely not “brain dead”, for that to be the case you would need to have one in the first place.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 2:49 PM

    @CrabaRev: what I just posted is 100% corrrect. I just accurately described at a basic level how wages/profits are treated you dzzzzope. I have a business degree and work for a large US multinational. I know exactly what I’m talking about. Not that anything more then a very basic level of intellect is required to understand how wages/profits are treated. Something you are clearly lacking. These companies benifit through the profits there staff generate and from the favorable tax treatment profits already receive. Your post is irrelevant drivel.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 5:54 PM

    @Brian Conway: “Profits are taxed after all expenses operating costs etc are deducted”
    You no more have a business degree than the man in the moon.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 6:26 PM

    @CrabaRev: so you get fired a lot?

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    Mar 19th 2019, 7:08 PM

    @Martin Meyler: Head hunted :)

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    Mar 19th 2019, 8:53 PM

    @Brian Conway: Your argument is complete nonsense Who owns these companies? Answer Shareholders
    What happens when shareholders get a dividend on their shares? Yes they pay income tax.What happens when they sell their shares and make a profit Yes they pay capital gains tax

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    Mar 19th 2019, 9:00 PM

    @Brian Conway: No Brian you don’t have a business degree I cant believe anyone as thick as you got a degree. Is it one of the ones you buy online or did you get someone to sit the exams for you?

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    Mar 19th 2019, 9:51 PM

    @CrabaRev: Yes that is correct you utter clown. I’m now certain you have brain injury

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    Mar 19th 2019, 9:53 PM

    @CrabaRev: yes that is correct you brave b read clown

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    Mar 19th 2019, 9:55 PM

    @Ben: wtf has that got to with what I’m saying. A companies profits are treated axed after cost are deducted. It’s just a fact

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    Mar 19th 2019, 9:58 PM

    @Ben: bahahaha benny big balls. What you believe is clearly irrelevant. What Ive said is just how it works muppet. You’re embarrassing yourself wee lassie

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    Mar 19th 2019, 10:07 PM

    @Brian Conway: This is what my father used to say comes to mind “Never argue with a fool they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience”

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    Mar 19th 2019, 11:16 PM

    @Brian Conway: “A companies profits are treated axed after cost are deducted. It’s just a fact”
    I assume “treated axed” means “taxed”

    If you knew anything about business, and I mean anything, you would realise how completely stupid that statement is.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 6:57 AM

    Why don’t we ask Trump to invade Bermuda, on the basis that it shelters international money launderers? The US has used similar claims to invade other states, so why not.?
    Wouldn’t that be one up the spout for the ERG, which operates as a political front for these offshoring Corporations, & which are being targeted by the EU.
    That is what Brexit is all about, not immigration, not free trade & fishery protections, it’s about disrupting the clampdown on corporate tax avoidance schemes, ala the Apple case.
    The clue is in the name European Research Group.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 4:08 AM

    I read ‘The Billionaire Who Wasn’t’ about the founder of Atlantic Philanthropies, who made his money in duty free shopping franchise. He and his business partner persuaded the authorities in Barbados to change their legal system so that they could move their money there for favourable terms. While he then donated most of his personal wealth to good causes, he did first acquire it using every possible loophole and changing the rules to suit him. His partner retained 50% of their wealth and lived a lavish lifestyle and his daughters married into European royalty. Do the ends justify the means even if almost 50% is given back to society.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 7:22 AM

    All about the jobs, nothing to see here. Keep up this and we’ll be back to the 50′s real quick.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 10:29 AM

    Whos surprised… no one
    What will change… nothing

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    Mar 19th 2019, 10:26 AM

    how is this news they’ve always been registered in Bermuda. they are expanding there plant in sw donegal which will have 1000 workers when complete. which I think will bring more to the local economy than anything politicians might achieve on recent experience.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 9:32 AM

    They accounted as the law states, tighten up the tax laws a little bit every year to keep these companies. They didn’t do anything illegal it’s lax laws that they work to

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    Mar 19th 2019, 10:04 AM

    Does it really matter what time the story is put up?I’m sure most people like me will scroll back to the last story they read before bed time and read what’s new in the morning.
    I don’t agree with tax cheats but if those large multinational companies cleared out of Ireland we would be worse off for sure.

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    Mar 19th 2019, 12:41 PM

    You will find when all the fuss dies down that they have doing nothing illegal, they wouldn’t. They, like other large companies, use the tax laws to their best advantage, nothing wrong with that.

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    Mar 20th 2019, 8:44 AM

    Ireland has long being facilitating tax haven status for these mainly U.S. multinationals which actually makes us a tax haven. There is a high likelihood that there is illegal State Aid here with Abbott and a coterie of other multinationals a la Apple. We wrote to Enda Kenny warning him about this on the day Fine Gael assumed power in 2011 but it fell on deaf ears.

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    Mar 20th 2019, 4:30 PM

    Article should make it clearer that Abbott should be paying its corporation tax to the US Treasury since it is a US company.

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