@Margate: We all know about it, But you’ll never stop it either, how do you propose to stop it from happening weekly all over the word then?

@Margate: Agree a change in mindset must happen.

We need to stop prescribing dangerous anti depressants (some not all), we need GPs to NOT prescribe in secrecy, we need GPs to monitor commencement & withdrawal of ADs. Put a duty of care / dereliction of duty upon GPs who prescribe recklessly. We need a study of inquest toxicology reports to identify the legal drugs causing most harm.

We need to accept that some medication has the potential to turn otherwise good people into killers.

Obviously can’t say yet meds are a factor in this tragic case but it certainly is a well documented phenomenon that meds are involved in many family annihilation events in IRL / UK / USA and this needs to be considered and not dismissed as the mental health “industry” would like to see happen.

@Alan Brazil: The reality is close family/ friends Dont know about it- as highlighted in many cases. Turning a blind eye and just accepting each tragedy as a statistic surely is not what you are proposing?

@Chemical Brothers: oh here we go, another parent who probably won’t vaccinate their child and blames it on the meds absolutely deluded, has it accorded to you that maybe the killers are physio in the first place no?

@Margate: You could easily argue that there isn’t enough mental health support for adult men. It’s tragic no matter what way you look at it and I don’t understand why people like you try to make it a devisive issue of men vs women.

@Margate: you think a physicopath is going to want to listen in the first place?

@Margate: just a barbaric and despicable act in general. Irrelevant what gender it was

@Martin Meyler: I’m sorry but thats like singling out mother’s suffering from post natal depression who harm their babies. Gender is irrelevant. Murder is murder

@Alan Brazil: All fully vaccinated thank you including myself with winter flu vaccine.

Yea they are “ALL psychos, ” that will help solve or reduce the incidence of such tragedies.

You Sir are a considerable part of the problem.

Here is some educational material written by a Professor or Psychiatry from University of Bangor…he’s a Professor of Psychopharmacology too. He knows his meds.

https://davidhealy.org/professional-suicide-the-clancy-case/

@Andy Dwyer: Suspect it is the mental health “supports” that are driving the problem. Some anti depressants and some anti anxiety medicines are making people commit suicide and murder suicide.

Fire & forget prescribing of dangerous meds isn’t a support.

@Chemical Brothers: Yeah keep believing what you read mate, if he knows his stuff where’s his cure for it?

@Anthony: So true mate.

@Alan Brazil: I disagree. I think we all have had times when we thought “should I say something” or “should I do something” and then you hear later that abuse did happen. It’s the culture of keeping out of peoples business even if you know that abuse is happening. You wouldn’t keep quiet if it was a child. The more these coercive freaks get away with the more the abuse escalates. I know for Garda to get involved there has to be a crime and it’s not straight forward. Just sickening that it’s going on all around the country right now by cowardly men acting with impunity.

@Chief Buck Cat: I agree mate I agree, but is talking about it too much actually putting the idea into people’s head?

@Alan Brazil: I don’t think so. I think the same stigma attached to abusing a child needs to be attached to abusing a partner. That will only happen when we collectively call it out wherever it festers. I’m guilty in the past of knowing a person is being abused in a relationship and doing nothing. Its in every city, town and parish in the country. We all know but leave it for somebody else to say something. The rocks need to be flipped over and torches need to be shone on violent men and women. See how they like a bit of heat on them. Some of them still think the are entitled to knock teeth out of their partners. Those people should be showing how tough they are in prison.

@Alan Brazil: Yea he’s only an internationally respected doctor, scientist & educatior…what would he know?

Read the blog you might learn something and might be able to argue from an informed opinion rather than ignorance MATE.

BTW Prof Healy is in favour of safer meds, safer approval processes and recognition that meds can make killers, he is still very much in favour of the continuing therapeutic use of what he considers “safe” antidepressants.

@Alan Brazil: when was the last time a woman killed her partner and child? Well? Perhaps you should get out more or at least keep up with world events.

@Andy Dwyer: Can you read my earlier comment? There is an issue with people like you constantly plying this – divisive- attitude; it does nothing for the cause regardless of what gender instigated the crime. Its only a distraction, a futile one.

@VMKilshaw: Last week in China, a woman killed all her kids, maybe it’s yourself who needs to keep up with world events

@Andy Dwyer: Male violence is what it’s called. No one is using it to be divisive. I don’t know why men can’t call it what it is. It has nothing to do with women, except women and children are it’s victims.

@Alan Brazil: So we don’t discuss it then. We turn a blind eye and let women and children continue to be killed by controlling men who feel entitled to treat women and children as collateral damage to their hurt feelings. Is that what you’d like?

@VMKilshaw: you have just completely ignored my comment, women are as controlling as men, talking about it won’t stop it either

@Anthony: Gender or sex is relevant. Women are killed because of their biology. Male violence is at epidemic proportions, that’s gender based male violence. When was the last time you heard of a woman killing her partner and child.

@Alan Brazil: Can’t find any in China from last week. Do you mean the one from October? Upon hearing the news of her husbands death in a car crash she killed her kids and herself. That one? Turned out the family was extremely impoverished and the father had faked his death for insurance money.

@Dave O’Keeffe: no mate not that one, but there you go you have found another example of it

@Margate: yes this was awful but it’s awful cause two innocent people lost there life cause of one mad person,there was a young teenage boy beaten by young boys and girls, violence is awful no matter what,let’s focus on why,then blaming men as a group.

@VMKilshaw: Spot on. As a man I know for a fact it’s a male problem and for any man to deny it are themselves part of that problem. It’s the ultimate sign of male weakness to want to control or physically hurt your partner. The whole whataboutery argument is just lazy. It’s male on female violence and has to be tackled on its own. The same goes for all other acts of violence, you cant bundle them all together. I hope we get to the stage were all abusers are waiting for a knock on the door and are treated like the criminals they are.
They are all snivelling cowards by default and will fold up like deck chairs when confronted by punishment. It’s control they feed off like parasites so let’s take it from them, remove their freedom and expose them as the flaccid, impotent, wretches they are.

@Margate: It was a despicable barbaric act on himself too. The conversation we need to have is why do young men grow up to feel that the only way to sort a problem is to end the lives of the ones closest to them and themselves. let’s stop turning this into a male against female case every time. It’s still suicide.

@Marie Broomfield: If it is suicide, it was also a double murder. Assuming that the same person killed them both. It isn’t only a suicidal act when you take the lives of others.

@VMKilshaw: There are lots of cases of women killing their children. At least two in Dublin in recent times. Of course, because they are women they are treated as victims while carrying out similar acts are villains.

@VMKilshaw: So you ignore the women who kill their children. Or is that not violence.