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'A national scandal' - Government defends housing record as minister says 'we need more landlords'

The Housing Minister was reacting to the revelation that there are now 10,000 homeless people in the country.

LAST UPDATE | 28 Mar 2019

THE GOVERNMENT HAS been accused in the Dáil of presiding over a “national scandal” following yesterday’s revelation that the number of homeless people in Ireland exceeded 10,000 for the first time.

The numbers taken over the course of one week in February show that there were 6,480 adults and 3,784 homeless children living in emergency accommodation in the State.

Minister for Housing Eoghan Murphy said this morning that the government is “playing catch up” on the housing crisis but his comments have come under fire in the Dáil this afternoon. 

Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, Murphy reiterated that the statistics are “hugely disappointing” and said that more positive figures in December and January weren’t reflected in February.

“In December and January, we saw more families exiting than entering emergency accommodation,” he said. “We hoped that’d be a trend… that didn’t happen last month.”

He pointed to the “complex response” to the homelessness and housing crisis being undertaken as part of Rebuilding Ireland. Murphy said the actions being taken by government were having a positive effect but said the situation continues to be “incredibly difficult”. 

Speaking in Leader’s Questions this afternoon, Sinn Féin TD Pearse Doherty said Murphy was understating the problem. 

“The Minister for Housing described these figures as hugely disappointing, but they’re a lot more than that, they’re an absolute and utter disgrace, what they represent is a national scandal, not just disappointment.”

Eoghan Murphy went on radio this morning, and who did he bat for? Well it was very clear, it wasn’t for the 10,000 people who were homeless in this State, or those that are facing rent hikes or eviction, he batted again as he always does for the landlords, because that’s what he always does. Because that is the side that he is on and that is the side the Fine Gael is on.

pearse Sinn Féin TD Pearse Doherty. Oireachtas.ie Oireachtas.ie

In this morning’s interview, the Housing Minister was also asked about other proposals that may help address the current crisis, such as a Sinn Féin bill that would mean tenants can’t be evicted from a buy-t0-let property if that property was being sold.

Murphy said that the government had looked at numerous measures proposed by NGOs and political parties but added there aren’t any “simple measures” that can be introduced. 

“We can’t just say if someone is going to sell their home, they have to keep a tenant in place,” he said, but also indicated a lease must be respected.

He said a landlord could be in a situation where they have to sell because they are in debt or in negative equity.

“The fact they would be selling with tenants in situ would mean the property would devalue by between 20-30% potentially, so you could actually be putting them in a very difficult financial position or even into bankruptcy,” Murphy said.

Interviewer Bryan Dobson then put it to the minister that it appeared the government’s priority was to protect landlords, but Murphy disagreed.

“By trying to help one person, you’d be hurting someone else,” he said.

We need landlords. The difficulty at the moment is we’re losing landlords from the sector, and as a result people are finding themselves in housing insecurity and are presenting to emergency accommodation. We have to find a balance in all of these things.

Responding to the latest report from the Residential Tenancies Board, with its designation of two new areas as rent pressure zones, Murphy said these measures are beginning to have a positive effect.

He also said that rent pressure zones – in these areas, rent cannot be increased by more than 4% per annum – would be strengthened through reforms presented to the Dáil.

When Dobson put it to Murphy that Dublin City Council had only built just over 70 social houses last year, the minister said it was an “ideological” point that was being made, and repeated this on a number of occasions. 

He said that social houses were delivered through a number of streams, and that people try to “undermine the numbers”. 

Murphy closed the interview by saying that while he “a lot of things we’re doing is moving in the right direction, we need to do more”. 

PastedImage-93919 Tánaiste Simon Coveney. Oireachtas.ie Oireachtas.ie

In the Dáil, Tánsiste Simon Coveney also defended the government’s record on housing and the minister in particular. 

“Mr Murphy is bringing a new approach in relation to protecting tenants next week to Cabinet, and that of course will be tested in this house as it should be,” Coveney said. 

But I think it’s important for us to focus on where the problem is. We are delivering more and more social houses now, we are delivering more and more private and affordable houses too. But we are not unfortunately overtaking the pace at which people are coming into homelessness.

“And that is something that the government intends on responding to, to providing more pretections to tenants to keep them in their homes and to keep them out of homelessness.”

In response, Fianna Fáil’s Dara Calleary TD said the government is merely repeating statements it has made in previous years.

“That’s a response you gave in 2016, 2017, 2018. 72 houses, that’s the figure, 72 houses were actually built in Dublin city last year,” he said.

“And the houses under social housing that you’re claiming have been delivered, 64% of them are actually bought off the market, they’re houses that other people are looking for, first time buyers, families and the government is muscling them out of the market.”

- With reporting by Rónán Duffy  

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    Mar 10th 2017, 5:39 PM

    You can’t say that though you can call for Jihad

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    Mar 10th 2017, 5:49 PM

    If he has used the term Isreali rather than Jew and called for destruction of Israel woukd he have got jail sentence…

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:58 PM

    Whilst the libtards want the world to be lined with cotton wool, I also agree this is ridiculous. Obviously if there is outright incitement to and encouragement to violence then jail. But otherwise, free speech should be paramount. Yes this man is a horrible person but we should hear what he says, listen to his arguments and learn from him, then demonstrate the stupidity and hatred in his philosophy. Hiding him in jail just facilitates them even more.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:09 PM

    So many rightards who don’t understand the difference between Free Speech and Hate Speech, not surprising given the low levels of intelligence amongst the Alt-Right cohort.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:12 PM

    I think that a longer sentence would be appropriate as a deterrence.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:24 PM

    @OpenBorders: I agree. The statements were false, prejudiced, extremely hateful, a dangerous denial of the human status of the victims and likely to stir up anti Semitic violence.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:28 PM

    I disagree with his statements, but I’m not right leaning. Whether or not what he did was disgusting (and I think people who think like him are disgusting), I still think he should have the right to do so, once he does not specifically invite people to violence. And I want to know these people rather than have them locked up. Essentially he is being locked up for thought crime. He still thinks what he said I am sure. Also, because he said it without the protection of religion (some religions look unfavourably upon Jews) he could be prosecuted. If he stated the same thing from a religious stand he would not even be prosecuted.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:37 PM

    @Clever Jake: What you point to is to a certain extent correct, but there is still an unimaginable lack of accountability at higher levels. Those people , are unfortunately above, and protected from all laws, national and international. Still a few brave and honest people around though. :
    VIDEO: Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Introduces Legislation to Stop Arming Terrorists
    Washington, DC—Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (HI-02) introduced the Stop Arming Terrorists Act today. The legislation would prohibit the U.S. government from using American taxpayer dollars to provide funding, weapons, training, and intelligence support to groups like the Levant Front, Fursan al Ha and other allies of Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, al-Qaeda and ISIS, or to countries who are providing direct or indirect support to those same groups.
    https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/video-rep-tulsi-gabbard-introduces-legislation-stop-arming-terrorists

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:37 PM

    @John B: I don’t think that there should be a right to spread hate, prejudice and hold up any group to contempt and hate by adopting the viewpoint of the Nazis.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:40 PM

    @Pat O’Dwyer: Rep. Tulsi Gabbard said, “Under U.S. law it is illegal for any American to provide money or assistance to al-Qaeda, ISIS or other terrorist groups. If you or I gave money, weapons or support to al-Qaeda or ISIS, we would be thrown in jail. Yet the U.S. government has been violating this law for years, quietly supporting allies and partners of al-Qaeda, ISIL, Jabhat Fateh al Sham and other terrorist groups with money, weapons, and intelligence support, in their fight to overthrow the Syrian government.[i]

    “The CIA has also been funneling weapons and money through Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and others who provide direct and indirect support to groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda. This support has allowed al-Qaeda and their fellow terrorist organizations to establish strongholds throughout Syria, including in Aleppo.

    “A recent New York Times article confirmed that ‘rebel groups’ supported by the U.S. ‘have entered into battlefield alliances with the affiliate of al-Qaeda in Syria, formerly known as al Nusra.’ This alliance has rendered the phrase ‘moderate rebels’ meaningless. Reports confirm that ‘every armed anti-Assad organization unit in those provinces [of Idlib and Aleppo] is engaged in a military structure controlled by [al-Qaeda’s] Nusra militants.’

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:50 PM

    @OpenBorders: I have little doubt that you are highly excremental but you are entitled to your opinion and to express it as you wish since you are merely attempting to ridicule me as an individual and not because I belong to a particular group or type.

    So press ahead all you wish.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:50 PM

    You’ve probably sussed it Tony but that last reply was from one of my admirers from Cork!

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:57 PM

    @OpenBorders: I knew that but it allowed me make a point.

    The point is that people can express hate, abuse, contempt, ridicule and insult but as long as it is towards the individual as an individual it is legitimate and fair expression.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:59 PM

    @Tony Daly: and the remark was directed to your admirer since yiu already know the point.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 8:30 PM

    Free speech ?? As a counterbalance to (Mis) and (Dis ) information :

    Jeff Bezos, Amazon endorse holocaust denial! (UPDATED)
    By Kevin Barrett, Veterans Today Editor
    In what amounts to a ringing endorsement of the claims of Holocaust revisionists, Amazon.com has apparently concluded that their books cannot be effectively refuted – and therefore must be banned.
    M.S. King, author of The Bad War, has been notified that his book has been banned from Amazon. The explanation:
    We’re contacting you regarding the following book: The Bad War: The Truth NEVER Taught About World War II. During our review process, we found that this content is in violation of our content guidelines. As a result, we cannot offer this book for sale.
    Amazon did not explain precisely which guidelines had been violated, nor did it cite specific passages. Therefore the “violations” claim is an obvious lie. The real reason King’s book and others were banned is that Jewish-Zionist pressure groups have mounted a campaign (timed to accompany the “cemetery desecration” PR stunt?) aimed at making Holocaust revisionism books unavailable. Obviously they believe the revisionists’ claims are irrefutable — and have convinced Amazon that such is the case.
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/03/08/bezos-denial/

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    Mar 10th 2017, 5:41 PM

    Hate speech, as damaging as it is, is just that – speech. You wouldn’t see 4 years sentences for serious assaults yet putting hateful comments online, which people have to follow you to see, is deemed worthy of a substantial sentence.

    These fashionable offences are dragging all the attention away from the old-skool but more harmful theft and violent crime.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:13 PM

    Israeli politicians have made similar disgusting remarks about Palestinians but there’s not even condemnation of that!

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:22 PM

    Its par for the course with some extremists in that part of the world. You get Palestinian politicians/ clerics telling their people to go stab jews etc etc. Im guessing you condemn this too?

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:14 PM

    @Jimmy Ireland: this was extreme,y dangerous hate speech and hadca hugh likelihood of leading to attacks on people who are Jewish or suspected of being Jewish. I think that, for the purposes of effective deterrence, a longer sentence would have been appropriate.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 10:09 PM

    @Tony Daly: you not going to respond to David Rafferty or Honeybadger197? didnt think so

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:03 PM

    I know it’s important for you to tell us about what some nobody in England said and all but will you be doing an article about the dangerous armed Albanian ‘refugees’ that we recently received into *this* country?

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/albanian-trios-car-contained-hidden-gun-northern-ireland-court-told-35506630.html

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:07 PM

    That’s the UK too.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:08 PM

    @Lisa Saputo:

    They were arrested in the UK. They applied for refugee status in Ireland. Being able to read is super!

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:10 PM

    And? What’s the connection to this story?

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:14 PM

    @Lisa Saputo:

    No connection.

    I’m just curious as to why thejournal writes about court cases in other countries that would barely make the local news yet they ignore stories about dangerous foreign criminals in Ireland.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:19 PM

    Because it’s not that interesting to anyone apart from rampant xenophobes.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:21 PM

    @Lisa Saputo:

    I find the fact that we allow dangerous armed criminals to wander around this country and others to be interesting and I’m not a rampant xenophobe.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:24 PM

    Reporting on foreign criminals who claim asylum in Ireland is now xenophobic?! The shark has been jumped.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:27 PM

    What war is currently being fought in Albania that necessitates these guys to claim asylum here?

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:29 PM

    Speaking of dangerous armed criminals, how are the kinahans getting along?

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:30 PM

    @Dave Thomas:

    Go read one of the multitude of articles about them to find out!

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:32 PM

    So because Ireland has a homegrown gangland problem we should allow foreign criminals in to, otherwise it’s xenophobic?! Take the rest of the weekend off, Dave.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:35 PM

    Eh…. That’s in the UK bucko… Fact check much?

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:37 PM

    @Dubabroad:

    Yeah, bucko – I fact check all the time!

    If you did the same you would know that the Albanians in question applied for asylum in Ireland, as stated both in the article I linked to and by my handsome self earlier in this thread!

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:11 PM

    Ha ha! Take your medicine Naberius, you got owned!

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:15 PM

    @OpenBorders:

    I own everyone, especially you!

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:03 PM

    He got what he desirved just because irish judges don’t like jailing people don’t think four years is harsh

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:15 PM

    Has the journal reported Dane Tyghe to the Gardaí for calling Republicans subhuman animals? ☺

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:18 PM

    @Andrew Corcoran: it is a false statement and utterly unjustified but I consider that Republicans are not a racial, ethnic or religious minority.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:25 PM

    Tony> the hate crime laws in the UK are actually more inclusive than that. A goth girl was beaten to death for being a goth so they expanded the laws to include all sorts of groupings.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:38 PM

    @Kal Ipers: I am not keen on beating people to death because of their identity or for any reason.

    Hateful prejudice can be powerfully contagious.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 10:01 PM

    @Tony: so it’s only wrong to call someone a subhuman animal if they’re a minority?!! Surely it doesn’t matter what religion you are, what ethnicity you are or what race you are.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:15 PM

    As an American I find this appallingly retrograde. Still jailing heretics! Thought crime!

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:19 PM

    It’s not heresy, it’s the ramblings of a deluded, disgusting bigot.

    That said, no one should be jailed for speech unless it’s a direct threat of violence or slander.

    Locking up bigots will not stop bigotry.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:20 PM

    It’s not a thought if you said it out loud.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:29 PM

    Genocide> As an American your country doesn’t have laws that we have. Hate speech is illegal here in Europe and it isn’t thought police. We are fully aware of what can happen when you allow it. What do you care about it? Thinly veiled racist name along with the misappropriation of the celtic cross as racist symbol. Wonder why racists need to steal other cultural symbols to use do you not have any artist people about. Hitler was a painter why did he need to steal an indian symbol

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:31 PM

    As a European I find America appalling.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:33 PM

    He was jailed for inciting hatred which is a crime.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 6:34 PM

    “Make America White Again” LOL .How will you go about doing this ?

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:20 PM

    @StopWhiteGenocide: it was far more than thought crime. It was prejudiced, malevolent and potentially capable of leading to violence and ghettoisation.

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    Mar 11th 2017, 1:49 AM

    @StopWhiteGenocide: When you say StopWhiteGenocide, I assume you are referring to the White Genocide inflicted on the indigenous people of North and South America, and Australia, by white people?

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:26 PM

    The conviction was by a jury of ordinary citizens. It was a conviction based on evidence. The statement were wholly false, unjustified and way beyond the scope of ordinary prejudice.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:16 PM

    It is unfortunate but social media and easier means of broad communication is giving a small minority of people a platform for disseminating hate.

    Hate tends to lead to violence.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:29 PM

    Look at the assassination of the late Jo Cox MP by Thomas Mair when thevrhetiruc if the far right pushes impressiinable and disturbed people into cowardly assassination.

    Killing a human being silences the human being.

    Speech can be dangerous when it is poisoned with pure hate.

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    Mar 10th 2017, 7:53 PM

    Would we be happy for such remarks to be made against the Irish living in England?

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    Mar 10th 2017, 8:24 PM

    The Defendant, Lawrence Burns, got a fair trial more than he would have allowed his victims.

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