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AS A PRACTITIONER in the field of high ability or gifted education, I am well aware of the polarising opinions that this work can provoke.
Some people may feel that the allocation of resources to what they perceive as a privileged group is a wasted exercise. The mistaken belief that all gifted children are from middle-class backgrounds, and will all do well at school, seems to prevail in many instances.
The truth is that many gifted children will lose interest in school if they are not challenged and this could result in them underperforming.
I would also suggest that it is beneficial to Irish society to foster our brightest students and we need to do so if we want to excel in areas like science, technology and the smart economy.
The Centre for Talented Youth
The Centre for Talented Youth (CTY ) Ireland is a not-for-profit programme based in Dublin City University that offers challenging courses to high-ability students aged between 6 and 17.
Last year some 6,000 students attended courses run by CTY Ireland at DCU and various other colleges around the country.
Recently we conducted a survey of parents of academically talented students who attend our courses.
Some 1,440 parents completed the survey and reported on the experiences of their children in schools throughout Ireland – every county was represented.
Many of the parents came from lower socio-economic backgrounds and 10% had children who attended DEIS schools.
15% had children who were twice exceptional – that is they had high ability but also had a learning difficulty including Autism Spectrum Disorder, ADHD or dyslexia.
Approximately 80% of the parents said that their children attended public school.
While many of these parents spoke of the positive academic and social experience that their child has at CTY Ireland, many were very dissatisfied with the schooling provided for their children.
More than 70% of parents said that their child was not challenged at school and that they very rarely or never received differentiated assignments.
A common thread in parents’ descriptions was the lack of planning and consistency in setting tasks for their children. Almost half of the parents felt their child’s homework assignments were of little or no value.
International comparison
Ireland is rightly lauded in many circles as an excellent educational system and teachers in this country are usually more qualified than their European counterparts but our record in the education of high ability children is poor and, indeed in many cases, is non-existent.
The absence of gifted education on the agenda for special needs education is a worry when one considers that many of these children are two to three standard deviations above the middle – but are expected to follow the same curriculum as students of much lower ability.
This can lead to boredom and frustration at school and a child not performing to the best of their ability.
Results from the Programme for International Student Assessment (2015) further illustrate this.
While Ireland has improved its mean scores in maths and verbal areas the scoring at the upper level of these exams is not encouraging.
Fewer than 10% of students perform at the higher levels of maths and our science scores demonstrate that many students are not achieving to their potential.
Unchallenged
Parents who completed our survey reported that more than half of the schools have no policy in place to identify high ability students and that their school has no policy for accelerating students through the curriculum.
This is despite the fact that all of the research in this field shows that acceleration and differentiation of material works for these students.
I have worked in this field for more than 20 years now and during that time we have made great strides in ensuring we identify more students from lower socioeconomic backgrounds and from diverse backgrounds including new communities.
But the problems at school are still the same as they were when I started out. Regardless of their background, gifted students are not being challenged enough.
The norm is that those exceptional children have to wait until everyone else is finished until they move to the next lesson or they are ‘rewarded’ with extra questions on the same material for finishing quickly.
I do recognise that schools have limited resources and many are doing their best in difficult circumstances but the solution for high ability children seems to be to just let them at it and it will all work out in the end.
Sadly with years of being unchallenged and never having an opportunity to do stuff that they are interested in often leads to high levels of underachievement and children not reaching their potential.
With much of government policy focusing on the smart economy and the need to promote skilled jobs in the technology industry, it seems surprising that no strategy exists to promote the learning of our brightest students.
Dr Colm O’Reilly is the Director of CTY Ireland at Dublin City University and has written a number of reports on gifted education.
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A 20-30% drop? From what I’ve seen it’s more like 20-30% are still using public transport.
@Lurfic: it’s badly written. It says it has fallen TO between 25% and 30%.
I would read that as a 70% – 75% fall
@Lurfic: How can you keep apart on public transport…..you would want to be insane to use it but some have no choice.
@Lurfic: 400,000 people used Dublin bus a day last week, 80,000 to 120,000 now if your numbers are correct. This virus commonly spreads by touching contaminated surfaces.
There’s a famous case of a Dr who visited Hong Kong during the SARS outbreak in 2002-03. Stayed at a hotel, 11 people on the same floor got sick because they touched the same lift buttons.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/14/hong-kong-hotel-hosted-super-spreader-in-the-2003-sars-outbreak.html
“Whenever an individual makes contact with a surface, there is an exchange of microbial life, including a transfer of viruses from the individual to the surface and vice-versa.” Dietz et al., 2020
Public transport, especially Buses, are potentially a huge cause of infection because so many people touch the same surfaces each day.
I also say wrong advice given about dentists by the government today.
Ref.:
Dietz, L., Horve, P.F., Coil, D., Fretz, M. & Wymelenberg, K.V.D. 2020. 2019 Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Outbreak: A Review of the Current Literature and Built Environment (BE) Considerations to Reduce Transmission, https://doi.org/10.20944/preprints202003.0197.v1
Jan. 23: Public transport on buses, trains and ferries in Wuhan are suspended from 10 a.m. local time to help prevent the spread of the virus.
Good! less amount of people in close contact on public transport the better!
@Bobby wilson: And so they should continue! Most people are continuing. And there the ones who plan on cutting down historic trees and robbing peoples front gardens
@Whoswho:
Let’s get a grip here. In the last 2 weeks more people have been killed in traffic accidents than from COVID19. If we’re talking respiratory issues, there’s a direct correlation between the number of cars in Dublin and the number of children with asthma, other respiratory issues have been on the rise for quite some time too.
Fewer cars on the roads is better for us overall, buses aren’t the enemy here.
COVID19 is serious, and avoiding public transport right now is sensible, but this isn’t a normal situation and basing our transport policy purely on the events of these months is foolish.
@: OK you hop on a bus without a mask that actually works and see how you get on……this is only starting when it gets going it will be carnage.
@Peter Hughes:
Lad, I literally just said avoiding public transport right now is sensible. I’m saying we shouldn’t base our future transport policy on a once-a-century event.
U really have some sort of anti car agenda dont u. I’ve seen u on other posts and it always the same copy and paste remark.
The last post I read ur comments was where a young lad had died in a car in Clare. U turned that into a rant about jailing drivers who are polluting Dublin. Go away will ya, people like u with their little agendas, ur transparent.
@Sam Greene:
Opinions? In the comments section? Inconceivable!
And no the comment was that people who kill people with their cars should be jailed. Not exactly a radical idea.
Probably because most of Dublin is closed down & also good to see people are keeping their distance when they can!
Surely running a full service puts transport workers health at risk ?
Less transport would mean more people in the one bus/tram/train.
Particulary those with underlying health conditions.
@Ashling Fenton: Exactly – running fewer buses and trains would be ridiculous at this stage.
in other news…. when the sun goes down….. it gets dark
@thomas patrick: not if you turn the lights on
Portlaoise to Heuston train this week has been nearly empty in mornings. Some people still managed to be less than 2 metres away, with plenty of seats available.
All public transport should have hand sanitizer on them. I saw a Dublin bus today and people on it and NO social distancing. We need to temperley suspend public transport otherwise this will spread like wildfire.
@alan scott: How exactly are people to get to clinics, hospitals and their necessary services without public transport? It could well come down to walking because people don’t have the fare, but if they have no choices, and need to buy food, or medicines, that is what public transport is for.
@Fiona Fitzgerald: well i don’t see many people using public transport do you? and what is wrong with cars, don’t say people dont have cars, (neighbor’s can help out also that is looking out for the elderly message is for) a lot of volunteer organisations for which I’m part of are standing by FOR THIS REASON!!!!. You make yourself look silly with your comment goodbye. Stay safe
@alan scott: Yeah, good idea. You can fit at least 4 people in to a car!!!!
@alan scott: and please explain to me how you’re supposed to keep 2 metres away from your neighbour/family member/friend if they give you a lift? Hop in the boot?? Cop on will ya, not everyone has the luxury of having someone that can help like that at a moments notice.
@alan scott: we all don’t have cars some of us depend on public transport..
@Mark Mulligan: there is lots of frontline and volunteer organisations the irish red cross, st John’s, order of malta are standing by to help those in need, getting groceries, prescriptions, hospital visit etc. They are standing by to help free of charge. We will have face mask, gloves, face shield, and apron so the risk is low for us to get infected or likewise for them. Its better then been on Dublin bus where every day a junkie is injecting themselves or snorting something.
@Fr. Fintan Stack: according to rte news 75% in drop on public transport. I dont mean to across as been insensitive but people are been selfish by going on public transport where they are sitting in close proximity to each other when they know the risk is to high to travel on public transport. I dont think I have to get to work or il get sacked if I dont turn up is going to work with this virus. Many people are working from home including me, this is not going to easy but my health and others is more important.
@alan scott: People working on the front line in supermarkets, hospitals, surgeries, haulage, maintenance teams, etc. can’t work from home. The 25% still need to get to work or society will completely shut down. We cant just pack them off in to car sharing for obvious reasons. Public transport isn’t ideal but its better than the alternative.
@alan scott: OK, so how many staff have they got versus how many people require their assistance?? There’s not enough to help everyone and that’s why we still need a transport system in place for those who are mobile and still able to use it! As a bus driver I’d love to know what bus or busses you get that you see masses of drug taking. Have you reported it to the driver? The guards? Or do you pretend it doesn’t happen and hopefully it’ll go away
@Mark Mulligan: you have a point not all the time but it does happen. And I have reported it to both guards and the driver. I drive also so 85% of times I have to go somewhere I drive, maybe i dont see it from the point of view of people who use public transport as a necessity but from a hygiene point of view public transport in ireland and esp Dublin leaves much to be desired. Good day
@alan scott: now ur just being silly. Those services couldnt possibly cover all the people who would need their support if buses were not running. But people should defo be sitting apart and wear gloves so as not to touch the surfaces, poles ect on buses.
@alan scott: That goes against all the best advice worldwide. Some people must use public transport.
@alan scott: You can drive not all of us can for various reasons. Some people need to travel and you are ignoring that.
No implementation of social distancing on transport yet.
@Mark: my husband is a transport worker. They’ve only been given hand sanitizer. He is asking passengers to board at the front door only and disembark by centre doors. He said there are very few using public transport, but as long as people are working the NTA will provide a service. He also has an underlying health condition, I’m worried he might bring this virus into our home.
@Nicola McClurg: A Bus Eireann driver i know told me all they were given were baby wipes no hand sanatizer no gloves.. Crazy way for frontline staff to be treated
@Nicola McClurg: the Employers have a duty of care to their staff. Ur husband should be issued with gloves and hand sanitizer. Thats disgraceful.
Buses are normally filthy but no way in hell will I be using a bus or train during this pandemic.
@Lisa: I had no alternative but to get the bus today when going food shopping, as I don’t drive and the nearest supermarket is too far away to carry several, heavy bag-loads from. A woman – with a young boy beside her! – was close to coughing up her lungs. (I guess that she missed all those media notices about Self-Isolating if you think you might be infected.) Thankfully she was at the far end of the bus and well away from me. Don’t know what I’m going to do now as regards getting in vital provisions, but there’s no way I’m using public transport anymore while this crisis goes on.
@Sean May: she should have been arrested
@Sean May: time to get a bike with panniers buddy. No better time – quiet roads now and everything.
Kill two birds with one stone – virus free transport plus get your exercise in.
Cycling increasing in cities all over right now for those reasons
@Jazz Buckler: A nice suggestion, Jazz and appreciated. Alas, I have COPD, so while I can manage the walk to the supermarket okay, by the time I got back from there on a bike with a gonkey-load of shopping, I wouldn’t be needing to wait for Corona to finish me off, lol. I should add that I live alone and am socially isolated, so the option of having someone to drive me back does not exist either. Thanks for your comment though, and I hope that you and yours will all be okay. Cheers!
@Sean May: taxi is safer in this situation and drivers are voluntary ring your local one for assistance next time
@Sean May: are stores still doing home deliveries? I dont know if theyvare , but might help u if they are.
@Tony O Neill: Arrested for coughing. Great idea.
@Jazz Buckler: I was waiting for the bike says the day post
Not everyone in Dublin drives and there are people who still have to get to work to keep things going. Public transport has been a life saver for me.
Will only be using buses for hospital appointments from now on
@David Jordan Dr Who is a fictional character. He certainly did not appear in Hong Cong.
Any chance that the (few) bus drivers that love to jam on their brakes sharply (even with less traffic about!!) would calm their driving down? This seems like a sport to a rare few drivers – to jam on and cause passengers to lurch forward forcing them to grab onto the virus-laden handrails. Please, please drive a little more smoothly.
Also agree strongly that all drivers be supplied with masks, gloves and hand sanitiser – even the few brake-jammers out there!
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