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PARENTS OF A 13-month-old boy have admitted to being “unduly” influenced by anti-vaccine information on social media after their son ended up in the intensive care unit of University Hospital Galway with a preventable disease.
The boy had not received his childhood vaccinations because his parents were concerned about a potential link between the MMR vaccine and autism spectrum disorder after seeing reports on social media.
The parents told UHG staff that they were keen to share their experience to help provide a “more balanced argument on social media, which can often be dominated by anti-vaccine material”.
A report by the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC) details that the boy presented to the resuscitation area in the emergency department in significant respiratory distress. It also notes that he was a previously well child without significant past medical history, not on any medications.
The boy had been infected with a non-typable Haemophilus influenza strain which can cause serious infection in humans, particularly children.
The boy was diagnosed with a H.influenza strain that was non-typable. However, there is another strain called H influenzae type b (Hib), which before the introduction of the Hib vaccine in 1992 accounted for 80-95% of identified strains causing invasive illness.
Writing about the case, Dr Peter Tormey and Dr Edina Moylett said it highlights the potential for a vaccine preventable disease to cause acute, life-threatening illness in an unvaccinated child.
“The fact that this child was infected with a non-typable H influenzae strain is likely owing to ‘herd’ immunity attributable to the success of the Hib vaccine.
The parents, in this case, were unduly influenced by wholly unproven vaccine related concerns on social media and were very disappointed with themselves for putting their child’s life at risk as a result.
Misinformation
“Oxygen saturations were 78% on arrival and the child was very pale with obvious central cyanosis; there was clinical evidence of significant respiratory distress with bilateral crepitations audible without notable wheeze,” the report stated.
Following his examination, the boy was admitted to the Intensive Care Unit (ICU) for three days. A 10 day course of IV ceftriaxone was completed resulting in a full resolution of symptoms.
Both parents were noted by doctors as being “well informed” regarding vaccine-preventable diseases and were aware of the various diseases this child was more susceptible to. The parents have since said that they were keen to pursue catch up vaccinations.
The biggest challenge healthcare professionals and public health organisations face according to Tormey and Moylett is keeping up with the vast amounts of misinformation surrounding vaccines “with more anti-vaccine blogs, tweets and facebook posts being added daily”.
“This case highlights the negative effect social media can have on vaccine uptake rates. It is important that healthcare professionals, public health organisations, parents and the mainstream and social media seek to provide and disseminate balanced and scientific information regarding vaccines, particularly on social media, where an anti-vaccination sentiment can often prevail,” Tormey and Moylett said.
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The poor kid deserves better parents
@Shane Dunne:
At least they’re prepared to admit when they were wrong, which is more than most anti-vaxxers.
@The Great Unwashed: Too bad it took the near death of their child. If they were still solidly antivax after going through this that would have been stunning.
@Edmund Murphy: and that must have been an horrendous lesson to learn. They made a near fatal mistake of listening to idiots who think they know everything and thinking that they themselves knew better than the medical experts.
By coming out like this they are doing a great service to the campaign for vaccinations. They are basically saying don’t risk your child like we did. That’s better than any advertisement campaign.
@Jane: I gave up reading after the parents were quoted saying that they want their experience shared in order to provide a more balanced arguement online. There is no arguement to be had. No balance required. Vaccinate your children end of story.
@Brendan Hughes: If I understand the piece correctly, the Journal agrees with you about the absence of any need for balance. Correct me if I’m wrong, but as I read it, the child was actually infected by a variant of the disease that the vaccine does nothing to prevent.
@Brendan Hughes: I agree that children need to be vaccinated. But, ever hear of the phrase “throw enough mud and eventually some of it will stick”? Well, social media is saturated with anti-vax crаp. It is very rare that you’ll come across actual medical facts. This does need to be addressed. Health services need to be far more active on social media or we will risk losing herd immunity as more and more people become influenced by the anti-vax lies. Most young people these days get their information from Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, but our health services only ever communicate through RTE, TheJournal, the Irish Times and Independent and through Departmental communiques.
@Shane Dunne: and we need a licence for a dog
@Shane Dunne: take the kids off them and charge them with mistreatment!!!!
@Edmund Murphy: your a total gob shite too. What you been putting in yourself all your life cause it sounds like shit
@Peter Mc: what’s mistreatment…..not putting un-natural chemicals inside your little innocent child. Air pollution is the cause of this, testing on vaccines was carried out when air quality was much better, chemicals are reacting differently now because of this, also all these premature deaths in teens, fully fit and always playing sports and vaccinated. How the hell did the lab that supply the vaccine run out all of a sudden. Because they knew they were partially to blame with their vaccines. I mean I can’t see a supplier of such not planning to stock enough for future generations doesn’t make sense….LIKE YOU U MUPPET
@paul whelan: you just proved my point you F-Clowns
@paul whelan: air pollution and air quality has nothing to do with vaccines. Air quality incidentally has improved anyway over the last thirty years. If I was you I’d leave the science to the experts and stop listening to the internet equivalent of a man at a bus stop.
@Shane Dunne: where is the dislike button.???..
@Jane: why so? there is no vaccine for this.
@paul whelan:
SADS is caused by cardiac arrhythmias and/or structural defects of the heart. It is NOT caused by vaccines, and your suggestion that it is is not only wildly inaccurate, but also deeply hurtful to anyone who has lost a relative to sudden adult death.
It’s easy too confuse stuff on Facebook with a medical degree hope the wee man is better soon
@Ter: why would you research vaccines on social media in the first place? Ask medical professionals you actually know and trust.
@Ter: you mean Dr. Pepper is not really a doctor?
@Colleen: yeah think my sarcasm was obvious, obviously not
@Dave Thomas: he is really and he has brother also a doctor in Dublin called Quirkey.
@Dave Thomas: he is a doctorb
@Ter: it’s easy to confuse to and too
@Brian Scott: true but doesn’t affect the health of a child or gist of the comment
@Ter: no it’s not. Don’t read into anything on Facebook. Particularly medical advice!
@Colleen: trust, trust who the people who told all the women they were cancer free, or the people who buried babies in the back garden of their so called mother and baby homes or the people who are in positions of power like Garda inspectors who are in cahoots with major criminals and who make up child abuse allegations against the good cops or maybe the politicians who throw credit at people and then kick families out on the street…….WHAT IS TRUST CAN YOU EXPLAIN. Each GP has an obligation to push new or certain drugs that they are contracted to subscribe due to big pharma companies havin the overall say. U should think before you speak next time.
@Ter: if your an idiot!!!!!
@paul whelan: not even slightly correct.
But we all knew that anyway, right?
@paul whelan: Paul, don’t bother you will only stress yourself unnecessarily… there are tones of medical reports with clear evidence of the poison in vaccines, necessary and totally not needed vaccines and so on.. but some people will never educate themselves they will bluntly believe
“more balanced argument on social media, which can often be dominated by anti-vaccine material” ???
There can be no argument with the anti-vaccine brigade. The anti-vaccine brigade are wrong. Simple as that. Who would listen to someone with a keyboard and an opinion over medically and scientifically qualified people?
@Peter Heylin: exactly. It’s insane to me that people with no medical background think they know better than the whole world of science and research!!
@Peter Heylin: the problem is that if you say to an antivaxxer “I’m right, you’re wrong. Look it up”.. they will dig their heels in even more, and insist that they have substantial proof that they’re right. So you need to balance that by being more persuasive and demonstrative of what goes wrong when you don’t vaccinate.
You and I are reasonable logical people. We know that vaccines work, and that any side effects are usually minor (though some can cause allergic reactions, but that’s not unique to vaccines). Antivaxxers often can’t fathom the logic behind decades of scientific proof.. so if these parents putting their story out to the world, changes the mind of even one antivaxxer.. then it’s the right thing to do.
@Aisling: The Dunning-Kruger Effect in action
@Peter Heylin: the same people who told women they didn’t have cancer,,,I think they have keyboards and shit the same
@paul whelan:
No, not the same people, but you knew that right?
FFS. Poor kid.
Yeah… strange times we are living.
Everything we learned and proven time and time again started being ignored. All the info is everywhere but some people prefer the new “trends” without investigating how valid and useful those actually are.
Good luck.
@Hugo Lopes: we live in an age where some people think that their opinions are better than actual facts!
@Dave Thomas: They are called alternate facts.
@Peter Hughes: They should just be called the antonym of fact, so fiction. Alternate (or alternative) fact gives them a sense of validity which they don’t actually possess.
@Dave Thomas: The Dunning-Kruger Effect in action
@Dave Thomas: leave Leo out of this.
What sort of parent takes medical advice from social media? They’ll ignore medical professionals but trust Karen on Facebook.
@Sean: But have you seen Karen’s Insta posts? All those likes!!!
@Sean: But have you seen Karen’s Insta blogs? With all those likes that she gets; she’s way more trustworthy than any consultant doctor.
@Sean: People should be psychiatrically screened before being allowed to become parents. These two should never have been allowed to have children.
In glad they are willing to share their story but I would want to see a child protection investigation into this as well. Parents dont have a right to risk their children’s lives though wilful stupidity and conspiracy theories.
@Edmund Murphy: and the state doesn’t have the right to prescribe what’s best for children against parents’ wishes. It’s a tricky balancing act.
@winston smith: and here is the state (me and you) picking up the cost of this treatment. Avoidably clogging up our already congested healthcare system
@winston smith: Actually it does. That is what the 35th amendment was about. It allowed the state to overrule parents when the parents actions would likely cause harm to a child or already has. Basically a parents wishes can no longer override a child’s needs and the state must active ensure they are not. Here is the relevant portion. “In exceptional cases, where the parents, regardless of their marital status, fail in their duty towards their children to such an extent that the safety or welfare of any of their children is likely to be prejudicially affected, the State as guardian of the common good shall, by proportionate means as provided by law, endeavour to supply the place of the parents, but always with due regard for the natural and imprescriptible rights of the child.”
Even if the MMR vaccine caused autism – which it does not – why would the parents in this case regard being on the autistic spectrum as bad for their child?
@Ciarán Masterson: An excellent point. These parents would seem to prefer the very real possibility their child could die of a preventable disease than to live “damaged” by being diagnosed authistic. I can’t fathom the morality of it.
@Edmund Murphy:
Thank you.
@Ciarán Masterson: I remember getting the MMR injection at age 12 with most of my class – 19 of us in total. One kid got very weak and almost fainted afterwards, but my mum and a couple other mums were there and made sure he was ok. The consensus was that he had a mild reaction made worse by the fact that he had stayed standing afterwards.once the near fainting was handled, he was good to head home.
“The parents, in this case, were unduly influenced by wholly unproven vaccine related concerns” – no, the ‘link’ between the MMR vaccine and autism is not just unproven, it is also disproven (by, y’know, science and all). Further, the lying toe-rag (Wakefield) who originally invented this nonsense in 1998 was struck off and the lies were retracted. Surely everyone with half a brain knows this by now?? The myth has perpetuated for over 20 years!
@John Staunton: and so has air pollution. Take the effects these vaccines have under today’s highest ever rates of air pollution
@paul whelan: Air pollution used to be much worse.
@paul whelan: https://images.app.goo.gl/oJ8NrifZ9fhRFiDq6
Air pollution in UK since 1970
@Squiddley Diddley:
G’way out of here with your scientific evidence, logic and rationality – Paul doesn’t like that sort of thing.
Poor child. I do appreciate the parents speaking out to seek a more well balanced discussion about it. With the pharmaceutical industry pushing all sorts of meds with potentially high risks, it is understandable that people are weary. I can imagine that, in essence, these people wanted the best for their child and thought they were doing the right thing. Vaccines have been around a while and there are definitely more success stories than not. Its good to be informed. Just be careful where you get the info from before potentially risking a life.
@Mandy Seiler: sorry no, say what you want about pharma but when a doctor tells you to vaccinate your kids you vaccinate them. There is no reason to object. This skepticism of intelligent people needs to be stopped right now.
@Mandy Seiler: it’s not hard: ask your GP. Science works.
To which vaccine does the article refer. The MMR version is mentioned in relation to the parents’ fears. The HIB vaccine is also mentioned but the actual infection does not seem to have a current vaccine, if I read correctly. I trust this is not a strawman argument disseminated by the medical community…
@Tom McHugh: the article also says he had a preventable disease, so it is a bit confusing
@Tom McHugh: the MMR case is the one most people are familiar with, which is why it is mentioned.
2 strains of HI were discussed – HIB which has a vaccine, and the one the kid got, which doesn’t. The theory is that, because of herd immunity, the kid was protected from HIB, but because his body didn’t actually have the vaccine itself, it made it easier for the strain with no vaccine to invade, and his body didn’t have the information (HIB vaccine) to be able to say “hey, this invader is like this other thing we can keep out, so let’s try a similar tactic to fight it off”. Had he had the HIB vaccine, there is a chance it would have better helped him to fight the infection he did get.
@Mirabelle Stonegate: Exactly my point. There was a slight chance that “herd immunity” could have helped in this case. The implcation that the lesson learned justifies making all vaccines mandatory is bogus. The flu vaccine is not mandatory at this juncture. There is much confaltion and word association in the article to deem it “fake news”. Bad science is more dangerous than no science IMHO…
@Tom McHugh: Huh??? No Vaccine
“the H. influenzae type b vaccine fails to protect against nontypeable H. influenzae strains, which have become increasingly frequent causes of invasive disease… Age and coexisting conditions are likely predisposing factors.”https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4593434/
Everyone needs to ignore the advice of pseudo scientists and quack doctors who clearly do not follow the Scientific Method .
@Means of escape: and Gemma O’ D.
@James Wallace: ad infinitum
Sad to say that there are many more of these misguided people who think they are superior to the ordinary person on the street.
@SteoG: there’s no vaccine against superiority complex. The Hib won’t fix that , just like it wouldn’t have prevented this kids particular illness. The case for vaccines is so clear and strong on its own merits, there’s no need for distorting stories like this. I’m just glad the parents came to their senses.
If you read the story, it is clear that having the HIb vaccine wouldn’t have prevented this. It’s important that children are vaccinated but also that misleading articles like this don’t cause confusion.
@Harry Comber: the virus that causes influenza (a multi-faceted infection) mutates so readily that the vaccine is adjusted for a only proportion of those detected on a yearly basis. I can see the benefits of vaccines such as this for immunodeficient people (elderly, cancer sufferers etc.), but there seems to be a concerted effort to advocate for vaccines as a panacea. I wonder whom this benfits…
@Tom McHugh: Haemophilus influenzae is a bacterial infection and not related in any way to the influenza virus.
@Harry Comber: my mistake. I thought with the Influenzae name, that it was the flu. Saying that, how effective is HIB vaccine in preventing this infection? Also how prevalent is this vaccine? The implied statements in the article would indicate that this vaccine is given on a community wide basis and that the parents were remiss. Is this really the case or are we back to ‘signalling’ again?
@Tom McHugh: HiB given as part of the 6 in 1 at 2 4 and 6 months
If anyone has issue with vacinations, think polio. Non of the people vacinated for polio actually got the virus. But lots of people are living with the outcome of the virus today . Simply because when they contracted it there was no vaccination. Its a big shame parents today are not educated Enough to know whats best for their child.
@Zool Ayka: When I was at primary school (in the 60s) there were at least half a dozen kids with leg calipers from polio, something we rarely see now a days, but if this anti-vax thing keeps up they will be back
@Francis Devenney: can you imagine going back in time to the 50s and telling parents that in the future, there would be vaccination against polio and other contagious diseases but parents would refuse to give them to their kids? They’d think you were mad (and not just because you were claiming to be a time traveller)
@Zool Ayka: and TB .. up until the 50s it was a massive killer here which was sorted by …… dun dun dunnnnn . Vaccination
@Zool Ayka: That is misinformation. “Of children who received the vaccine, 40,000 developed abortive poliomyelitis “https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutter_Laboratories
or vaccine derived polio
@Francis Devenney: Guillian-Barre Syndrome, AFP (acute flaccid paralysis), Bell’s Palsy, Cerebral Palsy, ALS, (Lou-Gehrig’s Disease), MS, MD etc etc that is today,
@Micheal O’Cleirigh:
Abortive poliomyelitis is not the same as full polio.
@The Great Unwashed: And what did they call it in the 1950s?
So called anti-vaxxers are not the problem – the problem appears to be that the Hib vaccine is causing mutated strains to infect babies. There is no vaccine available that would have prevented this child being hospitalised. It has nothing to do with the baby’s vaccine status. Will ‘The Journal’ at least acknowledge there is no vaccine for this child’s illness? This appears at best to be terribly misleading and at worst an agenda with the planting of a propaganda piece to frighten parents, to shut down people who rightly question vaccinations while paving the way eventually for forced (mandatory) vaccinations. Who told the parents that their 13 month old son’s infection was the consequence of their decision not to vaccinate? This needs investigation by the Medical Council.
I bet the parents are vegan! There’s a definite link between anti vaxers and vegans.
@Liam Whelan: Find a scientific study stating a link and you can say that. Heresay and scaremongering are what caused the antivaxer movement and your comment is no different.
@Edmund Murphy: And no I am not vegan or vegetarian.
@Edmund Murphy: Am pretty sure that was a joke Ed. In that there if you use the same method Wakefield did to show a link between vaccination and autism you could link vegans to anti vaxers. It’s so ridiculous it would be funny if not so tragic. At least that’s how I read it
@Mick Murphy: I may have been too riled up to notice the sarcasm. Sorry
@Edmund Murphy: not at all.. There should be some sort of symbol in text to denote sarcasm, because I’m just guessing that’s a joke. We all know that there are people out there that would hold pretty crazy ideas to be true. The whole anti vaccination movement as a case in point. So it is fairly hard to pick out sarcasm in the written word alone. Mad world we live in
@Mick Murphy: spot on.
@Edmund Murphy: why ya saying sorry to him? It was me ya had a go at!
I fear the world is entering a new Dark Age, brought about by the very tool that was designed to enlighten us in the first place!
*when* this case was or is it an old case chosen as a “teachable moment” ?
70% of Irish nurses yearly refuse the flu vaccine, despite “vaccine educational videos” etc.
My sister was one of the few people that year with swine flu, in critical condition (& put in an induced coma)
There were (very few!) other patients countrywide, all old/ frail/ with significant underlying disorders.
My elderly mother & elderly uncle then had the flu vaccine without reservations.
My mother’s mouth dangerously swelled requiring medical intervention. My uncles needed to go into intensive care.
A young friend, same – the doctor told her she would have died within hours without care.
3 true accounts of these *apparently* exceptionally, almost unheard of, “RARE” flu vaccine, adverse side-effects.
@Anne Hughes: “70% of irish nurses yearly refuse the flu vaccination”.. I call bullshit on that statement. You are obviously anti vax by your comment Anne and you obviously have no idea how dangerous your lies are. If even a small number of uneducated people decide to believe your story and don’t vaccinate their children due to your comment you may be responsible for those children falling very sick and even dying. It’s not a game
@Anne Hughes: So called naturopaths, homeopaths and others with a vested interest in pseudo science make the same spurious claims regularly.
@Mick Murphy:
Hi Mick,
This is well known fact. The journal of nurses and midwives, have articles about the extremely heavy handed measures, being used by the government, to try and force them to have the vaccines.
Perhaps that’s why the government is trying to inventivise it further, with “chocolate and free i-pad raffle entry” alongside the disrespectful yearly flu season, coercive messures
I do hope yourself and others will investigate the issue of flu vaccine safety & efficacy in further detail, as the majority of our nurses clearly have.
Best wishes,
Anne
@SteoG:
Hi Steo,
I don’t understand what claims of mine were spurious – that my sister had swine flu and almost died and subsequent 3 severe adverse effects with people well known to me.
The journal.ie posted a case with the conclusions by medical experts. ( with a case from some unmentioned time?)
I did the same.
Or was it the Irish medical community rejecting the flu vaccine en mssse you refer to?
If so see my earlier reply to Mick.
Again, I do hope yourself and others will investigate the issue of flu vaccine safety & efficacy in further detail, as the majority of our nurses clearly have.
Best wishes,
Anne
https://www.98fm.com/news/hse-boss-suggests-offering-nurses-chocolate-to-encourage-vaccine-uptake-
@Anne Hughes: Ann the 98FM link doesn’t seem to work. Might have been a little more convincing if you’d linked to those Journal of Nurses And Midwives articles you claim exist. You seem very eager to undermine the support for vaccinations, a reckless thing to do with no credible evidence only vague references that might impress the gullible. Distaste for the excesses of Big Pharma should not mean dangerous attacks on science. It’s like saying VW lied about emissions, so let’s stop wearing seatbelts.
@Squiddley Diddley:
Hi,
The link to the Irish Times article, with the same information, required paid access to read beyond the first few paragraphs.
Civil discussion on an important topic is important.
And we both concur in believing it’s dangerous for people not to have all the facts regarding vaccine issues and also irresponsible to state erroneous or misleading information regarding same.
Best wishes,
Anne
@Anne Hughes: Let’s just be honest here. If you have claims backed by credible scientific studies, we will examine them. Anecdotes aren’t evidence. Then there is the issue of you being involved in a spurious profession that rejects science.
@SteoG: Huh??? No Vaccine for this….
“the H. influenzae type b vaccine fails to protect against nontypeable H. influenzae strains, which have become increasingly frequent causes of invasive disease… Age and coexisting conditions are likely predisposing factors.”https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4593434/
@SteoG:
Hi Steo,
“Anecdotes” are first person accounts, “Hersay” recalling what you know others have experienced.
The Journal.ie described a case (made to sound recent, but with no date/time of occurrence noted?), with the conclusion “experts” urge vaccine uptake.
I described 3 cases of people I know with severe adverse effects. They will no longer get the vaccine and have been advised not to by their doctors.
Also in terms of the medical professions wariness of this vaccine, 70% of Irish nurses have refused it, despite intense pressure.
This is very telling. There are legitimate questions about its safety and efficacy.
Best wishes,
Anne
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@Anne Hughes: Keep talking it might drum up some business for you. Doesn’t do your credibility any good though. Anecdotes are not evidence. Asserting numbers and percentages without evidence just compounds your lack of credibility.
One has yo have a licence to have a dog. If parents don’t vaccinate they should get no children’s allowance, no social welfare. Hit parents where it hurts NOT the dependant child.
Sorry, the point of this piece? There is no vaccine for the child’s illness. So it’s being reported on as having any relevance to the issue of vaccination why?
@Ciara Considine: “The boy was admitted to university hospital Galway with a preventable disease.” Also the point? The point being that these two morons didn’t vaccinate their kid and now he’s in hospital. That clear enough for you now?
@Ciara Considine:
Hi,
The point is scaremongering and a mainstream media “teachable moment” to endear the public further to mandatory vaccination, (which Simon Harris is currently investigating).
When have you seen a story missing one of the 3 legs of journalism When/Where/What?
*When* was this ? It’s a singular “case” from University hospital, with anonymous contrite parents.
It’s written to appear as if it happened this week, as this galvanizes people to panic mode and is conducive to this months “dangerous crazzzzzeee anti vaxxers narrative”.
Best wishes,
Anne
@Liam O’Conchubhair: read the article liam. The boy was diagnosed with a H.influenza strain that was non-typable.
There is no vaccine for this illness. So the article is misleading.
@Ciara Considine: WRONG!!! Wrong !!! Wrong!!!!! hib given at 2 4 and 6 months . More stupid misinformation spread by an idiot who has no idea what they’re talking about . It’s best that morons like yourself stay quiet until you receive some sort of education , the s@@te you’re spreading is worse than stupid it’s dangerous … FOOL
@Liam Carlin: hib is a different strain than the one he was diagnosed with.. stated in the article. There is a vaccine for hib. Not for the one he was diagnosed with. Again, stated in the article.
@Liam Carlin: :) you need to read the article you are wrong :) :) :) you can do some research online to as it is misleading…
‘Vaccines cause autism, and the earth is flat’ This is the kind of stuff you’ll find online, put there by people who sound confident and convincing but who suffer from the ‘Dunning Kruger effect’. Social media and the internet can be a dangerous place
Many of the so-called “anti-vaxers” are campaigning for SAFER vaccines. They don’t want to get rid of them altogether. They want to remove the questionable ingredients such as Aluminium, Monosodium glutamate, mercury and Formaldehyde. I would like to see efforts made to improve the ingredients. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm
Even the seemingly intelligent can be fooled by Morons and scaremongers
Prosecute the parents for attempted murder
@Jack: Fools, indeed. Attempted to murder their child? Lay off the glue
Hi,
Jist to follow up from my previous posts, as suspected, this is not a “news” story, as inferred by The Journal.ie
The story is from 2018. (See link)
If The Journal.ie wish to present old case cases from previous years, they should share some of the medical data behind the 54 irish cases in court, for severe HPV vaccine adverse effects, such as paralysis.
Best wishes,
Anne
http://ndsc.newsweaver.ie/epiinsight/1joxgamrkp5?a=1&p=55108355&t=17517774
Slow handclap for the Pro-Life brigade peddling this dangerous nonsense.
@Orla Smith: What? No link between Pro-lifers and Anti-Vaxxers.
@sean o’dhubhghaill: Apparently in the US there is a big link. Catholic activists were very active against the HPV Vaccine. Probably happened here too, but more behind the scenes, we’ll never know how much the Knights of Colombanus influence things in the civil service these days. Apparently they did a lot to try and stop the Stay Safe programme (which is a bit creepy given what we know now), but hopefully they be lost their grip by now.
@Squiddley Diddley: Teresa Heaney who ran in the recent local elections is a devout Catholic and released an anti-vaccination video as part of her campaign. https://youtu.be/L8CHiFLDHgE
@Squiddley Diddley:
Hi,
The reason devout Christians and many other religions (who adhere to an anti-abortion stance) are against vaccines in the main is because many use aborted fetal tissue cells.
Some vegans do not use vaccines which require animal cells in their production.
(I am neither demographic btw).
These interestingly are some of the philosophical and ethical reasons referred to in the press, but not elaborated on.
Best wishes,
Anne
Hi I’m Troy McClure…
The whole country is awash with medical experts!!
They named the kid Jim have their hero Jim Corr
Can we now have an article this long detailing a case where a child has been seriously damaged by a vaccine?
Thought not….
The whole problem is caused by greed, which in turn means lies. People no longer know who to trust, a medical degree does not mean u are an honest person. And most doctors today are simply googling for results. Only today Pfizer has been found to be hiding a drug which reduces Alzheimer’s by 60%. If they lie for money people won’t trust them.
@Kath Noonan:
Pfizer has a drug which could earn them billions but they’re ‘hiding it’?
Sounds legit…
Time to make this a criminal act imho.
Charge the parents with child abuse. They should also be charged with stupidity but it’s not on the books yet. Finally ban them from all online activity for five years.
The problem with a “balanced debate” is that people such as these two have the scientific and medical evidence in front of them yet choose to ignore it in favor of the lunacy spouted by the anti vaccination kooks. It’s only when the consequences are landed at their door do they accept the madness of that particular lobby. Hopefully the child involved makes a complete recovery and hopefully others see the light before similar or god forbid something worse happens to their child. VACCINATION HAS AND CONTINUES TO SAVE LIVES !!!
So what vaccine should he have got? Not clear from the article, I don’t think MMR covers influenza.
@Briscoe Sundara: 6 in 1
Take that antivax!!!! https://imgur.com/gallery/AtOUXYg
Great to hear he is on the mend, this should serve as a wake up call to other…
And I read yesterday they are not content with putting just children in harms way.. They’ve moved on to not vaccinating pets now too. Bloody lunatics.
They should be prosectuted for neglect.
@Chris lynch: and you should be king for always being perfect. Your a moron, if I left mercury out on s counter and some kid swallowed it I’d be locked up for mercury poisoning yet you criticise a parent for not putting mercury and other chemicals inside their child’s body.If nature intended on us needing this stuff we would be made with it inside not putting it into our bodies.How do u feel about steroids, I suppose you think their dreadful and anyone putting that stuff inside to enhance themselves deserve everything they get huh??????
@paul whelan: stupid . If we went with what “nature intended” we would never seek medical intervention we’d just accept “nature@ and die … FOOL
@paul whelan:
Sorry for pointing out the obvious, but before modern medicine came along literally millions of people died from diseases we can now treat, children died in droves and average lifespans were a fraction of what they are today.
Is this what you mean by “what nature intended”?
This article is based on the assumption that had the boy received the Hib vaccine, it could have prevented him from becoming infected with Haemophilus influenzae.
But that is false.
The vaccine only protects against H. influenzae type b. As the article explains, the boy was infected with a non-typeable strain, which the vaccine does not protect against.
The Journal.ie needs to issue a correction so as to not continue to misinform the public.
With all the lies and greed by big business and the backing of government. This is the one I believe is the most genuine one that really is there to help us.
However I suppose they are messing with nature as its one of natures way of controlling our population.
But for all things to up rise against big business and greed of them , we could pick a better issue/s.
It is good that the parents admitted being influenced and thank God the child is alright!! Some time ago there was an argument on FB about vaccines and whether or not to go with them!! I just made a point that I contracted German measles as a child ( before there were vaccines) and it left my sight in one eye pretty damaged I was just making the point that it may not have been the case had a vaccine been available!! This person started to preach to me that had I been vaccinated I could possibly now be autistic or dead and that I should realize my glass was half full not half empty! Thought it was very rude I was merely stating a point of which I have lengthy experience!! Anyway thank goodness that little lad is ok!
CHILD ABUSE. !!! STUPID THICK IGNORANT PARENTS !!!!!
It’s boggles the mind to think members of generations who have never met anyone who has contracted polio or smallpox doubt vaccines work.
@Wade Wilson: huh?? Guillian-Barre Syndrome, AFP (acute flaccid paralysis), Bell’s Palsy, Cerebral Palsy, ALS, (Lou-Gehrig’s Disease), MS, MD etc etc and Vaccine-derived poliovirus (VDPV
i seriously doubt they had real concerns about vaccinations..They just wern’t bothered.
Social media…. the home of fake news
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