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'Building upward has a knock-on effect': Could a high-rise skyline make Dublin more liveable?

And could it happen in the next 10 years? Hear more on episode two of Ireland 2029.

A LOT CAN happen in 10 years. Where is Ireland going, and what will life be like here in the year 2029? Welcome to Ireland 2029: Shaping Our Future, a brand new podcast from TheJournal.ie.

Over the next 10 episodes, we’re partnering with Volkswagen to bring you 10 big ideas that could change Ireland for the better. Each week, we’ll talk to someone about an idea they truly believe could work, and find out whether it’s practical, or whether it’s a non-runner.

In the second episode of Ireland 2029, we ask: Does Dublin need a high-rise skyline – and could it happen in the next 10 years?

THE AVERAGE BUILDING height in Dublin’s city centre is four to six storeys. Our capital is often described as a “low-rise” city, but even that term is generous.

Take Paris, for example, another typically low-rise metropolis. Analysis of satellite data by the employers’ group Ibec shows that Dublin’s buildings are, on average, around 30% lower than the French capital. 

And our building heights fall behind cities like Amsterdam and Stockholm too, as Ibec’s Aidan Sweeney pointed out to Fora.ie last year:

Dublin is, in fact, far lower in height than other European cities that anti-height proponents put forward to justify the status quo.

The idea of building up, not out is one that already has political support. In December 2018, Housing Minister Eoghan Murphy told local authorities that a height increase in Ireland’s cities was a crucial development if the country was “to meet the many challenges ahead.” The government has since published new guidelines under the National Planning Framework to help make that happen.

But creating a high-rise skyline isn’t as simple as just telling developers they can now build taller buildings, as architect Orla Hegarty points out in the new episode of Ireland 2029.

Hegarty is an assistant professor at UCD’s School of Architecture, Planning and Environmental Policy, and says we’re a long way away from a silver skyline of towering skyscrapers:

If we were to decide tomorrow that every vacant site in Dublin could have a high-rise vacant tower on it, the knock-on effect would be enormous. We would see land values skyrocket in those locations. We would see developers in a long process of looking for approval and finance… [And] if you suddenly put 1,000 families in one building, where do their children go to school? That may not have been planned for.

Paul O’Brien, chair of Henry J Lyons Architects, says that a lot of those concerns could be alleviated by simply choosing the right sites for high-rise buildings.

“We do need to go high-rise in Dublin, but it doesn’t need to be in the historic core areas, and it won’t be. It should be in certain areas that can take it,” he tells Ireland 2029 reporters.

Dublin needs greater density, not only in terms of [places to] work but also in terms of living.

Could a high-rise skyline make Dublin a more liveable city – or is it too high, too far, too soon?

Hear more on the second episode of Ireland 2029: Shaping Our Future, which is live right now:

Full list of providers here 


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Ireland 2029 is a podcast from TheJournal.ie, in partnership with VolkswagenThis episode was put together by presenter and editor Nicky Ryan, producer Gráinne Ní Aodha, series producer Órla Ryan and executive producer Christine Bohan. With thanks to Paula Lyne and our contributors. 

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    Mute Dean Anderson
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    Dec 17th 2016, 7:14 AM

    if the attacker didn’t have a difficult background theyd be saying he comes from a good home &the attack was “out of character for him ” that’s the Irish legal system for you the aggressor is always the victim.that said I’m amazed he got a jail sentence atall & wasnt just given around of applause and sent off with a suspended sentence

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    Dec 17th 2016, 8:29 AM

    There’s no mention of it but to get thst sentence his previous convictions must of been high. Bad journalism for not including that

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    Mute Brendan Moriarty
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    Dec 17th 2016, 9:33 AM

    But hitting a complete stranger with a chair in McDonalds because the stranger’s friend gave you “bad vibes” doesn’t merit a custodial sentence? And judges wonder why they are despised…

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    Dec 17th 2016, 10:27 AM

    In fairness that guy thought his victim was a little f****t whilst off his face on heroin. Extenuating circumstances, like.

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    Mute David Mac Shite
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    Dec 17th 2016, 8:07 AM

    Sounds severe to me. No real malice, no intent to harm, no premeditation, just a messy drunken scenario between acquaintances that got out of hand and resulted in two punches. Given the procession of pond life with 50+ previous convictions for serious crimes that walk from the courts daily, laughing at yet another suspended sentence, this case seems different given the information contained in the article.

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    Dec 17th 2016, 10:47 AM

    He is one of those

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    Mute Fox in the Box
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    Dec 17th 2016, 1:32 PM

    @David Mac Shite:

    No intent to harm?

    What article did you read?

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    Dec 17th 2016, 7:42 AM

    This offence is deserving of a 12 and a half year sentence so he gave him 5. Less than half. And he will probably be out in less than half that again. Joke

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    Mute Polly Dolan
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    Dec 17th 2016, 7:37 AM

    April 2014?! The wheels of justice are grinding to a halt

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    Dec 17th 2016, 11:35 AM

    5 years for punching someone?
    There are people charged with manslaughter, rape, child abuse, aggravated burglary, drunk driving resulting in death, embezzlement of millions etc etc and they get a lesser sentence.
    Impossible to understand the logic of the Irish legal system.

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    Mute Gerry Fallon
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    Dec 17th 2016, 8:16 AM

    Here we go again.just thinking ok, The number one training point for solicitors is to focus on the harsh and deprived upbringing their violent clients have had and that will surely get them off or a much reduced sentence.Its so wrong. This thug will do this again and again.

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    Dec 17th 2016, 9:26 AM

    @Gerry Fallon:
    Not for the next few years anyway.

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    Mute gerard carey
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    Dec 17th 2016, 7:16 AM

    What a total halfwit.

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    Mute Deirdre mc entegart
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    Dec 17th 2016, 6:22 AM

    Ah come on,that was my first ever post.

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    Mute Peter keogh
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    Dec 17th 2016, 6:38 AM

    Hopefully your last too

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    Mute Brendan Moriarty
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    Dec 17th 2016, 9:34 AM

    Zing!

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    Dec 17th 2016, 6:10 AM

    Test

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    Dec 17th 2016, 12:44 PM

    @Alex Falcone: did you read the article? Life changing injuries! He should have got the maximum sentence!

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    Dec 17th 2016, 11:02 PM

    @Sylvia O’Regan: Our world is not a perfect place and sometimes you have to hit someone – most often without intention of “life changing injuries”.

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    Dec 17th 2016, 8:14 AM

    Another light sentence but hopefully this serves as a warning. The victim was a bloody idiot. Who shouts abuse at random strangers on the street? Your asking for trouble

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    Dec 17th 2016, 9:28 AM

    @John Reese:
    You should read the story again. They knew one another. They were not total strangers.

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    Dec 17th 2016, 10:44 AM

    If you want an insight of our judical system and the waste of time and money ,Go to high court,judments and determinations asylum

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    Mute Chris Finn
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    Dec 17th 2016, 12:46 PM

    Whilst it’s not nor excusable something tells me from reading above the victim was total slime. Anyone saying paki or threatening to stab someone someone in the neck with a needle and pestering is a laughing stock of the world. Slimiest lowest of the low. Pathetic.

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