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Ulster Bank sells off nearly 4,000 of its customers in massive family home loan book sale

90% of the loans due to be sold are family homes – about 3,200 accounts.

ULSTER BANK ANNOUNCED today it is selling off nearly 4,000 of its customers to a possible vulture fund. 

The bank confirmed this afternoon that plans are afoot to sell on another large portfolio of mortgages worth €900 million.

Unlike the last sell off of its customers, which was predominantly made up of buy-to-let properties, about 90% of the loans due to be sold this autumn are family homes – about 3,200 accounts.

The bank states these loans are worth about €810 million. The other 10% are buy-to-let  properties, about 400 accounts in all, worth a combined total value of €90 million.

An Ulster Bank spokesperson said the bank classes these loans as “non-performing mortgages”. 

The spokesperson stated that “following a concentration of effort with customers in difficulty to ensure that they were given every opportunity to agree a sustainable solution and to remain in a home that they can afford… the continued extension of forbearance cannot unfortunately be maintained”.

“Not all mortgages… are sustainable and we are obliged to reduce the level of non-performing loans on our balance sheet. For mortgages that are not sustainable, additional forbearance will not bring them back to a performing position,” concluded the statement. 

There has been previous debates about who or what entity is obliging banks to offload their loans, with some, such as Finance Minister Pashcal Donohoe stating that the European Central Bank has demanded that banks reduce the level on what it calls ‘non-performing’ loan book.

However, last March, Fianna Fáil published a letter from the ECB which states there is no directive to improve bank loan books in this way.

Engaging with the bank 

Reacting to the announcement, Fianna Fáil’s Finance spokesperson Michael McGrath said: 

While none of the owner occupier mortgages are currently in a restructure arrangement, the customers concerned had been in on average five restructure arrangements with the bank. This points to the fact that most of these customers have been engaging with the bank but are simply unable to pay as opposed to being unwilling to pay.However, the bank has not said that these customers are not paying anything towards their mortgage.
By selling the loans in this fashion, the bank is taking the easy way out and has demonstrated little regard for the long-term welfare of its customers. It is my experience that these so-called ‘vulture funds’ are very difficult to deal with and have no interest in entering into long-term forbearance arrangements with mortgage holders.

McGrath that the number one priority of the regulators seems to be “to protect the health of the banks”.

“They have little concern about what happens to the customer once their loan is sold on by a retail bank within their remit,” he said. 

Political weakness

Sinn Féin’s Finance spokesperson said “once again, the vultures and banks are colluding to sell out thousands of Irish families. This bonanza for vultures is only possible because the government have given political support to vulture sales. Fine Gael are as responsible for this sale as Ulster Bank”.
 
He added that thousands of Irish families are facing the potential sale of their loans to a vulture fund and the government is actively encouraging it.
 
“The reality is that no loan, in arrears or otherwise, is safe under the current rules,” said Doherty, who added that his No Consent, No Sale Bill, which would prevent the loan sale without the permission of the mortgage-holder, to progress urgently.

“This is an important piece of legislation which will ensure that banks cannot sell on loans without the consent of the borrower,” he said. The government and the Department of Finance are staunchly opposed to the Sinn Féin Bill.

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    Mute Trea Lynch
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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:40 PM

    This is the new alternative to trade unions; company models that respect their workers make the need for trade union obsolete.

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    Mute Paul Roche
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    Apr 15th 2015, 11:06 PM

    But it’s not really, is it?
    This guy has his exit strategy lined up and nobody expects the takeover company to continue to employ all staff at 70k. I also expect his risk analysis to include projections for an increase in contract staff, and his HR team to be supplied with copies of Mein Kampf.

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    Apr 15th 2015, 11:07 PM

    Dream on buddy

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    Mute Cathal
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    Apr 15th 2015, 11:15 PM

    Maybe it is a blocking manoeuvre nobody is going to take your start up away from you if you’ve the highest cost base possible.

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    Apr 15th 2015, 11:49 PM

    I have no strong opinions on this.

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    Apr 16th 2015, 12:44 AM

    @Trea.

    Judging by what I see, T/Unions are almost obsolete anyway however many employers are stingy & exploit their employees.

    I doubt if this generosity will ever occur in Ireland.

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    Apr 16th 2015, 1:19 AM

    @Sammy very good

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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:35 PM

    Hi, can you forward this article to Dail Eireann please?

    Thanks in advance

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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:44 PM

    Stay on topic

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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:45 PM

    I’m pretty sure the minimum wage there is already over $70k

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    Mute Jason Culligan
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    Apr 16th 2015, 7:11 AM

    Nowhere near, a person working a 40 hour week on minimum wage in Ireland would earn in the region of €17,000 per year. That’s a massive leap away from $70,000 which is much closer to €55,000.

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    Apr 16th 2015, 7:15 AM

    I re-read your comment and see I was a little off-point but the figures remain very much the same. The minimum wage in the US is $8 an hour which equates to $15,360 per year working a 40 hour week.

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    Mute Emily Elephant
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    Apr 16th 2015, 7:24 AM

    I meant the minimum wage in the Dail. Not clear enough obviously.

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    Mute Joe
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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:37 PM

    Great idea. Getting loads of free publicity.

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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:41 PM

    Application form please

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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:48 PM

    Do they need a cabinetmaker???

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    Apr 15th 2015, 11:21 PM

    I need a cabinet maker. where are you based?

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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:41 PM

    Founder and chief exec. Surely still the major shareholder so I’m guessing salary is insignificant in the grand scheme, but nice optics.

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    Mute Anthony Lang
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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:48 PM

    Unless there are restraints on naked capitalism, imposed or voluntarily assumed, capitalism eventually becomes unsustainable.

    Although we paid the CEO’s of the Banks large fortunes in compensation packages, we got incompetent monkies.

    Large salaries are no indicator of talent or ability.

    Senior executive salaries are generally gross and disproportionate.

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    Mute Ross Stewart
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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:56 PM

    Don’t know why you got red thumbs for that

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    Apr 15th 2015, 11:09 PM

    He used words of more than three syllables which tags him as a commie pinko lesbian lefty in the minds of some who post in the Journal

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    Apr 15th 2015, 11:56 PM

    That much is true Tony.

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    Apr 15th 2015, 11:58 PM

    Sorry @Anthony Lang

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    Apr 16th 2015, 1:29 AM

    Capitalism always works. When you tinker with capitalism, like bailing out the banks, it runs into problems.
    This guy is doing the capitalist thing, he’s thinking of new innovative ways to grow his business, attracting hardworking employees.
    I really hope it works for him.

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    Apr 16th 2015, 1:39 AM

    It is a fact that there is no correlation between the salary of the CEO and the success of a company

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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:52 PM

    I see it reported in this weeks Kilkenny Reporter newspaper that Ms Siobhan Talbot, Group Managing Director of Glanbia has a remuneration package that increased from €1.02m to €1.62m since she was promoted. It is also reported that the four member executive team share a combined package worth €4.22m I always wonder when I see such figures, where is the evidence of a correlation between super pay packages and performance. It certainly wasn’t evident in banking circles.

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    Apr 15th 2015, 11:50 PM

    Hes also CEO of this company http://www.reynholm.co.uk/index.php

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    Apr 15th 2015, 11:26 PM

    Don’t think he can persuade the CEO of the company I work for to do the same, would be nice though.

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    Apr 16th 2015, 1:33 AM

    It is a wonderful thing for the staff and I wish we could have some thinking like that here.

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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:56 PM

    Anybody got a distribution list for TD’s n Ministers & any ex Taoiseagh & heads of depts & charity organisations. …!!

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    Apr 15th 2015, 11:21 PM

    Whatever about this guy. Any one else remember the lead up to the dotcom bubble bust of the late 90′s.I got deja vu all over again.I remember learning to ‘code’ back in 95. Of course it was just html back them and I already could code C and Basic.I have an odd feeling about all of this.

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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:53 PM

    Tech startups are getting cocky again, then? This has always ended well in the past.

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    Apr 15th 2015, 11:55 PM

    Don’t worry, nobody’s falling for this tech malarkey.

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    Apr 16th 2015, 2:00 AM

    This CEO is making a decision on employee happiness for $70k from a university that pays it’s professors $200K +

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    Apr 16th 2015, 3:22 AM

    Yeah but those guys are really really really happy!!

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    Apr 15th 2015, 10:51 PM

    There must be a snwtch…..sorry catch…..

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    Apr 16th 2015, 12:10 AM

    Guessing by the thumbs down nobody else thinks so.

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    Apr 16th 2015, 1:07 AM

    Really hate yiz all right now . Feckin hoors the lot of yiz !!!!

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