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A memo was brought to Cabinet on Ireland's no-deal contingency planning. Shutterstock/Kaspars Grinvalds

Irish online shoppers will have to pay more when buying from UK retailers post a no-deal Brexit

An updated action plan on a no-deal Brexit was discussed at Cabinet today.

IRISH ONLINE SHOPPERS will have to pay more when buying from UK retailers post a no-deal Brexit

An updated action plan on the contingency measures being put in place for Ireland if there is a disorderly Brexit outlined a number of sectors that will face disruption, such as airports and ports, taxation, and transport. 

In relation to retail, and particularly online shopping, it states that “after Brexit, the UK will not be part of the EU’s Digital Single Market and consumers may not be protected by EU consumer protection legislation”.

Additional import charges, duty and VAT will apply, states the report.

If you are used to buying a number of items online, and later returning them to the UK retailer (free of charge, generally), you may now face additional administrative costs for export and re-import costs for your returns. 

“Consumers will therefore have to choose where they place their orders,” states the report. 

Buying online

“When the UK leaves the EU, the operating environment for online retail will change, both consumers buying from retailers and site located in the UK and also Irish retailers selling on the UK,” states the government report.  

When asked about the additional costs to online shoppers, Tánaiste Simon Coveney said “to be simplistic, what people need to realised is if they are buying products from the United Kingdom after a no-deal Brexit, it is the equivalent from buying from a third country” outside the European Union. 

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Similar to buying from a jurisdiction like the US, shoppers will be subject to tariffs on their purchases. 

“We’ll see a real change in online traffic” for shoppers who regularly buy goods from UK platforms, said Coveney. 

The Tánaiste said it makes sense for Ireland and the UK to be “buying and selling” with each other. 

“But in a no-deal scenario, the trading relationship will fundamentally change, both online and offline,” he said. 

The documents on no-deal planning, which is over 100 pages long, also states that north-south trade would be particularly affected and it could no longer be as frictionless. 

Checks on the border?

The big question remains preparations for a border. It is a question political leaders are still avoiding.

“The truth is that we will need to take some action somewhere in our economy to ensure that we are protecting the integrity of the products that are then going to be sold on out of Ireland.”

However, he added: 

“We are not going to put checks on the border, or close to it.”

The government document states that there should “no illusion” – an no-deal Brexit will have “far-reaching change on the island of Ireland”. 

It adds: 

This would particularly impact on North-South trade, which could no longer be as frictionless as it is today. The impact of tariffs, and of the customs and sanitary and phytosanitary (SPS) requirements and associated checks necessary to preserve Ireland’s full participation in the Single Market and Customs Union, would be significant for the operation of the all-island economy and would involve additional costs for disruption to businesses through the island, particularly those in Northern Ireland.

While the document outlines resources, staffing and infrastructure has been ramped up at Irish ports and airports, with over 170 vets and inspectors hired and on the books, there is still no plan for resources that might be needed if border checks are introduced. 

Continually pressed on the issue today, the Tánaiste said the Irish government are still in discussions with the EU Commission about how to protect the EU Single Market, so as to ensure Northern Ireland doesn’t become a “backdoor”.

What is under discussion, and has been for a number of weeks now with the European Commission, is how can we in a real and verifiable way, ensure that the integrity of the Single Market is protected and that we don’t have essentially an unprotected back door through Northern Ireland into the EU Single Market.

Coveney said it is “not helpful” for him to speculate about what solutions might be provided as the government is still in talks with the commission.  

He said “some progress” had been made in recent weeks, but added: “We’re not where we need to be.” 

He ruled out the notion of creating new “zones” in and around the border that could be used for checks, stating:

“If you create zones, you create new borders.” 

He said the government’s focus is on resolving the issue, adding:

“They are not easy issues to resolve, that is why they are taking so much time.”  

Other areas the report touches on is the lack of Institutions in the North.

“If the Institutions are not in place at the time of a no-deal Brexit, there is a risk that the UK government might initiate to move to Direct Rule in Northern Ireland”.

The report states that planning and infrastructure at Irish ports and airports is near completion, with additional warehousing in place for checks, as well as traffic plans in place for scenarios where trucks are blocking up Dublin Port, for example.  

The Tánaiste said he would not “sugar-coat” it for people, stating that a no-deal Brexit will be a “very, very difficult issue for Ireland to deal with”.

It will be an “ugly prospect” for the country and will have “profound” economic implications for Ireland on “all levels”, he said.

How much will all this contingency planning cost?

No cost estimate has been generated yet, but Finance Minister Paschal Donohoe said the costs will considered in the budgetary context in the run up to October. 

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    Mute AlanH -AFC
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    Jul 9th 2019, 6:47 PM

    Or just don t buy from UK until prices reduce

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    Mute Gus Sheridan
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    Jul 9th 2019, 6:57 PM

    @AlanH -AFC: don’t think the little we buy will bother them, they have the rest of the world to sell to.

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    Mute John Kelly
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:04 PM

    @Gus Sheridan: all the empire buying stuff

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    Mute Aidan Mitchell
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:29 PM

    @Gus Sheridan: the ‘we’ in this context is the EU. So I’d say it would have an impact.

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    Mute Ajax Penumbra
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    Jul 9th 2019, 6:52 PM

    Amazon.de — leave the Tans behind; embrace the Germans!

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    Mute Gus Sheridan
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    Jul 9th 2019, 6:58 PM

    @Ajax Penumbra: we are already a vassal of the Fourth Reich didn’t you know? We bailed their bond holders out, that’s what we are there for.

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    Mute John Kelly
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:05 PM

    @Gus Sheridan: no we didn’t gus .. we stopped our own financial system from imploding

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    Mute In my opinion
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:35 PM

    @Ajax Penumbra: wonder will amazon have a workaround for this considering a lot of Irish buy from from amazon.

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    Mute Darius Guppy
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:35 PM

    @John Kelly: and we repaid unsecured debt which originated in German banks, to suggest otherwise is an outright lie.

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    Mute John Kelly
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    Jul 9th 2019, 8:30 PM

    @Darius Guppy: who suggested that .. we repaid our own debt .. simple.. I know for some people that is hard to accept ..

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    Mute Valthebear
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    Jul 10th 2019, 8:52 AM

    @John Kelly: typical eunionist spin.

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    Mute Dave Thomas
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    Jul 9th 2019, 6:50 PM

    Just as well we have the rest of europe.

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    Mute John Kelly
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:29 PM

    @Dave Thomas: yes we do ..

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    Mute WhateverHerNameIs
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    Jul 9th 2019, 6:58 PM

    We are already paying over the odds for some online retailers, they don’t seem to adhere to the exchange rate ever.

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    Mute Deborah Blacoe
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:48 PM

    @WhateverHerNameIs: yes, and not just online. Some British High Street shops with branches here in Ireland seem to have an arbitrary method of conversion from Sterling to Euro. In one particular shop, some items with same Sterling price tag will have differing Euro price tags. When I asked about how the conversion was calculated I was as much as told to go bother someone else. So, I haven’t been back in that shop. If they want to treat us like fools, that’s up to them, but we don’t have to put up with it.

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    Mute wattsed56
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:59 PM

    @Deborah Blacoe: Perhaps VAT, supply chain or simply the astronomical cost of running a bricks and mortar store in Ireland.

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    Jul 9th 2019, 8:19 PM

    @Deborah Blacoe: not as simple as a straight forward exchange rate conversion I’m afraid. Vat, employee wages, inc prsi, pension contributions, rates and the general cost of running a business in ROI are all factored into the retail selling price.

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    Mute Deborah Blacoe
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    Jul 9th 2019, 10:58 PM

    @cars: yes, I do understand those points. But even given those variants, the increase in prices between the UK and Ireland are off the wall.

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    Mute Dan
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    Jul 9th 2019, 11:04 PM

    @cars: they have that in the uk also. But We have that extra paddy tax

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    Mute cars
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    Jul 10th 2019, 12:51 AM

    @Dan: as it’s more expensive here.

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    Mute Asha
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    Jul 9th 2019, 6:46 PM

    Hopefully this will put an end to my online shopping addiction

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    Mute Dominic Leleu
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:20 PM

    Buy from EU then…

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    Mute John Sullivan
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:33 PM

    .nl. .fr .de .it. .be. .dk. .at x 27 and of course .ie. all tariff free. The Brits can sail off on HMS. Delusion to trade in ornamental spears and grass skirts with Samoa.

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    Mute Mike Conway
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:06 PM

    The bluff and scaremongering continues…

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    Mute Vocal Outrage
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:11 PM

    @Mike Conway: oh, so what’s actually going to happen, how will Brexit pan out for the republic oh enlightened one?

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    Mute Deborah Blacoe
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:50 PM

    @Mike Conway: ya think?

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    Mute John Walsh
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:51 PM

    amazing to leave out the fact that if it less than €22 then its customs exempt, I’m sure Amazon will adapt or order from the continent , UK exports will tank in this scenario anyway

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    Mute Ian James Burgess
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    Jul 9th 2019, 8:48 PM

    @John Walsh: living in Spain we regularly use Amazon UK but as you said we won’t if there are extra charges and delays

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    Mute Mick Cullen
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:32 PM

    More scare tactics

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    Mute Paul Furey
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:00 PM

    Unless sterling collapses. Great for shopping and holidays there. But not good for Irish businesses and them visiting us. Oh well.

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    Mute wattsed56
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    Jul 9th 2019, 8:03 PM

    Jeeze, if all we have to worry about on a no deal Brexit is online shopping. If it’s that critical to life we’re in a bad way as a society.

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    Mute Brian Flavin
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:42 PM

    If more expensive go up order from Uk online then forget it and will order from Germany online available English language by setting

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    Jul 9th 2019, 8:33 PM

    However, he added:

    “We are not going to put checks on the border, or close to it.”

    Surely in the event of no deal that’s magical thinking – unicorn stuff right? ??

    What was all the backcrap all about if not for the need to prevent a hard border post Brexit – and yet here we r talking about checks away from the border ?????

    Nooooo surely not ?????

    after all , the brits have been saying this is perfectly doable the whole last 3 years only 2 be knocked back and accused of magic thinking.

    Could it be the whole back trap was just a fake problem to prevent the UK leaving and ultimately prospering. …..and thereby proving beyond doubt the EU is a waste of time.

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    Mute wattsed56
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    Jul 9th 2019, 8:47 PM

    @jackbello: The answer from RoI is “no checks” the answer from the rest of the EU to RoI has, and will continue to be “the integrity of EU single market must be maintained” – The bureaucrats in Bruxelles are growing impatient and will turn the screw until Varadkar capitulates. The kiss of death to his leadership and term of office.

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    Jul 9th 2019, 8:54 PM

    @wattsed56: time will tell. Be interesting 2see him squirm tho. He thought he had this all sown up and the brits over a barel – looks like he thought wrong.
    Be interesting to see which way he jumps ….on the 1 hand , do as Irelands masters decree and put up that wall in full contravention of the gfa ( and thus end his political career) or 2 irexit.

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    Mute Míleata Watch Co
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    Jul 9th 2019, 8:28 PM

    Not good news for address pal, or parcel motel. I can see a major drop in UK purchases and an increase in other eu countries.

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Jul 9th 2019, 8:33 PM

    @Míleata Watch Co: they may set up a French subsidiary instead. A few extra hours on a ferry will be a lot better than the hassle of customs

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    Mute Seriously stunned
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:20 PM

    Ulster bank charge for online sterling transactions ffs

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    Mute Sean Ryan
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    Jul 9th 2019, 8:15 PM

    Did anyone think otherwise?

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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:39 PM

    He forgot to mention that VAT would not be charged on goods for export from the UK.

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Jul 9th 2019, 8:32 PM

    @Tony Humphreys: Yes but it will be charged here. Then there are import duties that could also apply. It will also take a lot longer.

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    Mute jackbello
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    Jul 9th 2019, 8:26 PM

    Translation. … things could be simple if we wished it… but we can’t coś we r in the straight jacket that is the EU – hence the full suite of controls come in.

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    Mute Derek Goulding
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    Jul 9th 2019, 10:22 PM

    They will just ship their goods via Northern Ireland, where there will be no border checks.

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    Mute Mill Miller
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    Jul 9th 2019, 8:08 PM

    Still cheaper ,, as Ireland will put taxes up ,

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    Mute Jane Alford
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    Jul 9th 2019, 7:37 PM

    We already do. Postage is rediculous.

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    Mute Conor Hogan
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    Jul 9th 2019, 9:18 PM

    In other news water is wet……

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    Mute jackbello
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    Jul 9th 2019, 9:07 PM

    The delay will be minimal for those who have declared online and ahead of arrival at the ports – ie professional transport companies. …for those whod rather complete the formalities at the port itself…. they’d be the ones with a bit of wait.

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    Mute Bat Collins
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    Jul 10th 2019, 10:57 AM

    If you want to buy from Amazon just switch to Amazon.de instead of Amazon.co.uk. The prices are the same and German firms usually deliver within a day or two. Most EU countries will deliver to Ireland so let the Brexiteers drown in their own post colonial stupidity.

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