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Every morning this week, TheJournal.ie will publish an article on the international climate crisis and what it means for Ireland.
Is the country doing its part in the battle against global warming? And what effects will the efforts to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions have on Irish society?
ON AN OVERCAST afternoon Paddy Phelan sat in the office of the old Bord na Móna workshop at the edge of the Lemanaghan bog outside Ferbane in Co Offaly.
The workshop was the place to service the tractors and other machinery used to harvest and produce peat in the surrounding bog. At one point, there were 15 or 20 people working there, Phelan said.
Bord na Móna (BNM) – the commercial semi-state company – announced it was closing 17 active bogs last year, and since then the workshop has been mostly silent.
Phelan is a fitter with BNM, which was first set up 1946 under the Turf Development Act with the purpose of developing Ireland’s extensive peatlands.
It has been a significant presence in the Midlands since then, providing employment to thousands of people over the years in managing the bogs and harvesting peat. The peat is then to be used to generate electricity in ESB power stations as well as for home heating.
Phelan has worked with the semi-state company for over 40 years, starting back in 1977.
“It has been a life and a lifestyle. Everything you see around here, this was all Bord Na Móna,” he told TheJournal.ie.
Today, he works out of nearby Shannonbridge and the Blackwater group of bogs, which supply the peat that is burnt to generate electricity at the ESB’s West Offaly Power Station.
Last month, An Bord Pleanála refused an application for the power station to continue burning peat past 2020, citing serious environmental concerns with peat-firing electricity.
BNM announced in 2015 that it would fully stop harvesting peat by 2030, and that it was ramping up its rehabilitation and restoration of Ireland’s bogs. Last year, it brought the end of peat forward to 2028, and announced there would be up to 430 job losses as a result of its “decarbonisation plan”.
In order to transition smoothly, BMN wanted to continue to supply peat along with biomass (basically, wood or other organic material grown in Ireland or imported) to be used together to generate electricity at ESB power plants.
But ABP refused permission for this in July, catching BNM and the ESB off guard and sparking serious concerns among 300 workers at the plant, as well as those employed to supply the station with peat.
“It was a huge blow. We all expected it. Don’t be under any illusion. We expected it and we knew it was coming but we had ourselves set for 2030,” Phelan told TheJournal.ie.
This is not like a factory in Dublin that you close the door and life goes on. This is way bigger than that. This is a community. The community is the bog and ESB.
Adding to this, further north in Lanesborough, Co Longford, the ESB’s Lough Ree power station (which also uses peat) last month stopped operating after the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) took action over environmental concerns with how it was running.
That decision has already led to the loss of over 70 seasonal jobs at BNM, with hundreds of full-time jobs with the company and the ESB hanging in the balance.
The issues at Lough Ree and West Offaly have become a flashpoint in the debate around the future of Ireland’s energy production and the burning of fossil fuels.
It is government environmental policy that Ireland transitions to renewable energy, but there are concerns that it needs to be a “just transition” that doesn’t result in the destruction of midlands communities.
So, how will Ireland make the move away from fossil fuels? What will it mean for the environment? And what about the communities who fear they may be left behind?
Making energy in Ireland
The burning of fossil fuels like oil, peat, gas and coal to generate energy is by far the largest contributor to heat-trapping greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions in Ireland.
Burning these fuels releases carbon dioxide and other chemicals into the Earth’s atmosphere. These chemicals remain in the Earth’s atmosphere and trap and prevent heat from escaping, leading over time to the planet heating up.
The vast majority of things we do – from filling our cars with petrol to power them, to using gas to heat our homes, to plugging our phones in to charge them – require energy and traditionally this energy has come from burning fossil fuels.
According to figures from the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (SEAI), a total of 60% of all Ireland’s GHG emissions came from energy use in 2017, across different sectors like transport, electricity and heat.
When you discount transport (which we’ll talk about in a later article), energy use was 38% of Ireland’s GHG emissions. This is split between industry, residential, services and energy use in agriculture.
Burning fossil fuels
For centuries fuels have been burned to create electricity and heat, which are essential for modern societies to function. Over the past two decades, countries in the EU and wider world have been moving away from fossil fuels and into more renewable energy.
This is energy generated through things like wind or solar power which doesn’t contribute to worldwide GHG emissions. Ireland – along with other countries – has set targets for next year and beyond in relation to renewable energy.
It committed to sourcing 16% of its total energy (including heat and transport as well as electricity) from renewable sources by 2020, a target it is likely to miss.
Last December, Ireland was rated the worst-performing EU country in the Climate Change Performance Index – a ranking of EU and OECD countries prepared by 3 environmental NGOs.
The country ranked very low in terms of GHG emissions and low in the Energy Use category. A lot of this has to do with the fossil fuel mix we use to produce its heat and electricity.
While Ireland is ramping up its supply of renewable energy sources (and is even a world leader when it comes to wind-generated electricity), many environmentalists believe that this is not happening anywhere near fast enough.
“In terms of climate and emissions we cannot afford to continue to be effectively a rogue state when it comes to emissions,” John Gibbons, spokesperson for An Táisce’s Climate Change Committee said.
Which is the status we’re at now – we’re effectively a rogue state within the EU.
An Táisce is a non-governmental environmental organisation set up to protect Ireland’s natural and built heritage. It is currently at the forefront of the battle to stop the harvesting and burning of peat from the country’s bogs.
Gibbons said it was “fantastically inefficient to burn peat to generate electricity”.
According to the SEAI, in 2016 the GHG emissions intensity - meaning how much GHG emissions were released with our energy supply – was over 30% higher than the European average, as a result of our fuel mix.
Bord na Móna
Paddy Phelan’s father worked with Bord na Móna before him, starting in 1957 at the opening of one of the many bogs used for peat production.
The semi-state has been a huge employer in the area over the decades, with harvesting the bogs a labour-heavy job that requires manpower as well as technical expertise.
“You’d meet a huge amount of people in the towns and villages all around who have worked in Bord Na Móna and who would be getting pensions out of Bord na Móna,” said Phelan, speaking at the workshop in Ferbane.
Even for the shops in Ballycumber and Ferbane and things like that – the spin offs of different industries around would be huge.
Before BNM, people in Ireland had been harvesting peat for centuries to use as domestic fuel, with the first large scale harvesting taking place in the 19th century.
Peat is formed from decomposing plants that accumulate in a water logged area in the absence of oxygen (meaning a bog). Boglands make up about 5% of surface of Ireland, and so we have an abundance of peat – making it an ideal fuel for electricity during the 20th century.
By the 1970s, just under half of Ireland’s electricity came from a mixture of peat and hydroelectricity, with the balance being made up of imported oil. In 1980, BNM employed 7,100 workers with the sizeable majority working in production.
As well as electricity, it was also used extensively (and still is, to a smaller degree) as a form of fuel for domestic heating. Peat briquettes are still a common sight in many households, and 5.3% of Irish homes used peat for central heating last year.
Today, BNM employs 1,980 workers and just three peat-fired power stations remain operational in Ireland: Lough Ree, West Offaly and Edenderry (which has a licence to burn peat along with biomass).
Environmentally destructive
In their natural state, bogs are what are known as “carbon sinks” – basically sites in which carbon is sequestered (or stored) from the atmosphere. They are also sites of great biodiversity – home to a variety of plant and animal wildlife.
When bogs are drained and the peat harvested, they lost this quality as effective carbon sinks. As well as this, peat emits high levels of CO2 per unit of energy used, worse even than coal, making it one of the least efficient fossil fuels.
The state is still subsidising the burning of peat. Last year, Lough Ree and West Offaly power stations received €87.75 million from the taxpayer to operate under the Public Service Obligation (PSO) scheme.
This scheme will run out for peat at the end of this year. Already, West Offaly Power station has failed to secure planning permission to continue burning peat after this, with the decision still pending for Lough Ree power station.
“The cost per employee down in the Midlands is about €100,000 per employee to fund BNM to destroy our richest carbon sink. This makes no sense on any level,” said John Gibbons.
Coal – another fossil fuel – is soon to face a similar fate. The ESB announced that it would be moving away from coal burning over the next decade at the Moneypoint power plant in west Clare.
Moneypoint is the largest power station in Ireland and the only coal-fired plant. It is also the second largest employer in west Clare, after Trump International Doonbeg.
The electricity provider announced last month that it would be cutting 100 jobs from the plant, citing market pressures, carbon prices and increases in renewable energy as reasons.
Natural gas and renewables
In 2017, coal and peat together made up about half of Ireland’s GHG emissions from electricity generation, despite only generating about a fifth of our final electricity.
Emissions from these fuels have fallen since 2005, while emissions from natural gas have risen significantly.
The majority (just over half) of our electricity now comes from natural gas, which is significantly more carbon efficient than coal or peat (and therefore has a reputation as being “cleaner”).
In 2015 Ireland imported 95% of its gas from Europe, but this has since dropped to 34%, largely because of the addition of the Corrib gas field in late 2015 to the State’s supply.
The government has insisted that as we move towards more renewable forms of energy, gas as well as oil will still be needed to meet our energy demands.
It was on this rationale that it blocked People Before Profit’s Climate Emergency Measures Bill from progressing through the Dáil, despite the fact that it had support from the majority of the parliament.
If it was passed into law, it would have put a stop to new licences being granted for the purpose of oil or gas exploration in Ireland, which the government said would have threatened Ireland’s energy security going forward.
The blocking of the bill sparked protests outside the Dáil, with PBP TD calling it “utter hypocrisy” and saying it showed that the government wasn’t serious on fulfilling its climate action commitments.
Naturally, the government disagreed.
“When the wind doesn’t blow and the sun doesn’t shine we need a back-up,” Climate Action and Energy Minister Richard Bruton said earlier this year, adding that the “back -up remains oil and gas”.
About 30% of Ireland’s electricity came from renewables in 2017 (while renewable sources make up about 11% of the country’s total energy needs).
“That’s up towards world leading standards in terms of the level of wind energy deployed on our system,” said Jim Scheer, head of the Policy Insights and Design at the SEAI.
As peat and coal power plants shut down over the next decade, the government’s Climate Action Plan has set the target of increasing this to 70% by 2030.
Scheer sees great opportunity in wind energy as the country moves towards this goal (especially in developing our offshore wind capabilities).
Gibbons believes that the country is not moving towards renewables fast enough to play its part in averting climate catastrophe. He also sees environmental danger ahead if the country relies too much on gas to replace peat and coal.
“What the gas industry have spotted is a panic about climate change and they’ve decided to position themselves as a ‘transition technology’,” he said.
“But what they mean by that is that they want to embed that technology – to hardwire it into our energy system for the next 40 years.
We don’t have 40 more years of burning any form of fossil fuels if we want to have an environmental system capable of supporting complex life.
“Nothing left”
But as of yet, renewabled energy hasn’t provided to kind of employment peat harvesting and burning has for the towns and villages of the Midlands.
In Lanesborough, Co Longford, the ESB’s Lough Ree power station towers over the town, an imposing sight as you drive through.
The station has been shut down since early July, when it was confirmed that the EPA was taking legal action against the ESB over how it was running.
The issue had to do with the temperature of wastewater being emitted into Lough Ree and the River Shannon, which the EPA said was detrimental for the plant and marine life there.
BNM – which supplies peat from nearby Mountdillon for the station – immediately announced it was laying off 78 seasonal workers and 72 permanent workers temporarily.
This sparked widespread condemnation from local politicians, workers and the community. Hundreds of people marched through the town in protest following the announcement.
The outcry led to BNM reversing its decision to lay off full time employees, but workers still fear for their jobs in the medium-term.
BNM has moved and is progressing into and exploring other areas as it begins to close bogs and make the move “from brown to green”. These include renewable energy, horticulture, tourism, recycling and fish farms, among other areas.
The semi-state has even been in talks to grow Ireland’s medicinal cannabis supply into the future. But there are fears that none of these will be enough to replace the labour-intensive work of peat extraction.
(Bord na Móna declined to offer any comment when contacted for this story by TheJournal.ie)
These were the fears felt in and around Lanesborough, when we visited this month. The Mountdillon workshop just outside the town was mostly empty except for a few workers.
“The casuals are all gone – every one of them,” said Tommy Murray, a fixer at Mountdillon and union shop steward who has worked with BNM for over 40 years.
If they can’t burn peat, they can’t burn peat… that’s it.
Murray’s fears echo those of Paddy Phelan and the future of employment in Shannonbridge if West Offaly is not allowed to burn peat after 2020.
As recently as last week, An Táisce and other international environmental groups objected to the EPA issuing a new licence for Lough Ree, citing environmental concerns and using the recent Shannonbridge decision as an example.
Bord na Móna Group of Unions spokesperson Willie Noone said the move was “opportunism” from an Táisce and that the groups was putting livelihoods at risk.
In the town and among the community there are real fears that the station won’t reopen.
Local shopkeeper Joe O’Brien told TheJournal.ie that Lanesborough and the surrounding towns could be destroyed if Lough Ree stays closed.
“We’ve been the main town hit by this… and it came out of the blue,” he said about the closure.
It will destroy the town.
Future jobs
As Bord na Móna began to offer voluntary redundancies and close its bogs, meetings were held with workers represented by the Bord na Móna Group of Unions.
The key term heard at these meetings, and mentioned by all interested parties when discussing Ireland’s energy future, is the need for a “just transition”: The need to protect jobs and livelihoods while also ensuring Ireland meets its energy and emissions targets over the next 10 years and beyond that.
The world is in the midst of climate crisis as a result of global warming causes by GHG emissions, Ireland has said it wants to be leader in climate and that means moving away from fossil fuels.
But the recent decision by ABP with regards to Shannonbridge, and the ongoing issues at Lough Ree, seem to have caught BNM and the government by surprise.
When questioned on future jobs in the midlands in a decarbonised economy, Minister Bruton said there were job opportunities in the midlands, but was vague on the specifics:
“We want to flesh out how that can be realised. Challenges need to be planned for and I’m determined to bring back to Government a coherent development of a pathway for the midlands,” he told RTÉ News.
When contacted by TheJournal.ie, a spokesperson for the Department of Communications, Climate Action and Environment said work was continuing on “developing a just transition plan for affected areas”.
The spokesperson said Ireland had been admitted to the European Commission’s Platform for Coal Regions in Transition, which will allow the area to avail he “support of a dedicated Country Team of experts to assist with the development of strategies and projects for the region”.
They said work was ongoing with all stakeholders to “bring about a just transition away from peat production for the workers and communities affected” and that this was being stepped up.
But environmentalists say that the government and Bord na Móna have known for years that peat extraction would have to stop, and both should have been more prepared.
“Of course we need a transition but we can’t just use the phrase ‘just transition’ to simply delay what has to be done and this is another attempt to kick this down the road for another 10 years,” said John Gibbons.
In terms of what industry or jobs could replace peat or coal or other fossil fuel industries, Gibbons points to a large-scale retrofitting programme.
“[An Táisce] did quite a bit of work on this over the last couple of years and what we found was the obvious, unavoidable replacement for this is a retrofitting programme,” said Gibbons.
“The point about retrofitting is it requires skilled workers and it can only be delivered on a local basis – town by town, parish by parish, county by county.
We have enough poor quality housing stock in Ireland to employ tens of thousands of people from now until 2050 retrofitting
Heating
As well as electricity and transport, heating is the other big energy emitter of greenhouse gases in Ireland, responsible for about 31% of GHG emissions in 2017 (more than electricity).
Over 80% of these emissions come from imported oil and gas, commonly used in home heating. At least a million Irish homes have a low energy rating, and lose heat easily.
Retrofitting these homes is seen as a key challenge by government towards helping the country meet its climate goals (and is one of the key actions of its climate plan).
But the recent controversy over the SEAI’s deep retrofitting grant pilot scheme shows once again the difficulty the government will have funding implementing the large-scale programmes that are needed.
It was announced without warning that a pilot funding scheme for people looking to perform a “deep retrofit” on their homes had ran out of money, leaving hundreds of homeowner who had already began work on their homes with a shortfall (the government later announced that people who applied would have their applications processed under the scheme).
For Jim Scheer of the SEAI, there are many other opportunities that need to be explored in the midlands.
“Turning [the peatlands] from what they are now are rehabilitating them into a big garden in the heartland of Ireland that’s sequestering carbon and maybe is a tourist attraction… and a source of renewable energy with turbines and a source of biodiversity.
From where it is now to a picture like that needs work and probably needs the kind of skills that BNM workers have at the moment.
But the call from environmentalists, the UN and climate scientists is that the time to act on seriously cutting emissions, in order to ensure the future of the country and world, is now.
An Táisce and many others state that the time for slow transitions is already long passed, as is the need to continue burning environmentally damaging fossil fuels.
A just transition?
For Paddy Phelan, sitting in the old Bord na Móna workshop in Ferbane, however, issues around climate change and emissions seem far away when compared to job losses and the destruction in his community if nothing replaces Bord na Móna.
“Look, I mean I don’t mind I’m 59 years of age. My girls have gone through college and I have the mortgage paid. I’m okay… but there are others that are in dire straits,” he said.
“There’s no point saying otherwise. They’re in dire straits. There’s one chap he’s finished last Friday and he’s heading for Australia and I firmly believe there will be a few more of the other lads heading that way.
“There isn’t anything to replace brown fuel. You can drive out and see… There’s only small industries.
You want something to come into the midlands and these areas that will employ 500 or 600 people at a time. Now what it is I don’t know.
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But if these White and Asian males are the best people for the job why not hire them?
Because they aren’t the best for the job and only an idiot would think so.
People hire people like themselves and have always done so. Only when they are forced to be more inclusive will they hire a more diverse workforce.
Could anyone honestly believe that women aren’t capable of being part of the technology sector? You genuinely hear it often but that’s because the technology sector is one of the most insular and bigoted parts of the economy.
Women couldn’t be doctors until we discovered women are often better doctors. The women can’t code bulls**t is just a reflection of the nasty elitism in tech.
Go back to business insider.
@David
As per usual with this kind of article, we are only given half of the numbers we need to be able to understand if there truly is a diversity problem.
Twitter is a tech company. Look at the number male to female ratio for tech jobs. 10% female, 90% male. That is roughly in line with the m/f ratio of graduate software developers which is about 7% female and 93% male.
It is not Twitter’s fault that women are not interested in studying computer science. If they were to beef up their numbers of 50/50 male and female they would indeed be hiring some extremely poor programmers.
@David Burke I work in the tech industry and I’m often involved in the technical part of job interviews for new candidates. The simple fact is that a lot more men apply for jobs in the tech industry than women. Therefore a lot more men are hired.
I work with women who are very technical and capable. I wouldn’t claim for a minute that women are less technical or capable of doing the job than men.
Also in the future I’d refrain from personal insults when trying to make a point. It makes you look petulant and weakens your argument.
@david
There is a major problem with women becoming doctors. The leave the profession when they have kids.
I work in IT and very few woman stay in the profession. They either quit completely or go part time. How can you promote such an employee? Not true in all cases but it is certainly a common pattern. That is starting with a very low rate going into the field. You also have the majority of those studying higher maths are male. That is a building block for going into engineering of any kind.
I still haven’t heard of a desire to increase men into nursing or more importantly teaching where the numbers of men has dramatically decreased. Don’t forget leaving cert exams in Ireland now show a massive gender bias against males
I I hope the journal doesn’t repeat last years fiasco of systematically excluding boys from it LC results day photos; Gender balance on that front should be an absolute given.
Why don’t women go into tech?
Because the sector is incredibly sexist and insular and has little interest in changing. If you aren’t a libertarian white or Asian male we don’t want to hear from you.
Whether it’s snapchat or tinder or zeebox or stackoverflow we see incredible misogyny from C. Level down which would never ever be tolerated in any other industry.
And the yet the blame is always placed on women. “oh women just don’t do tech”. Well yes that true but that’s because it’s a cesspool of sexism and if you can’t see that you are part of the problem.
I’m not denying there is a dark sexist edge to the industry though I wouldn’t consider it to be as endemic as you seem to. I would question how much that affects college entrance though. I’d like to see a study on how much perceptions of the potential work in industry affects decisions of men and women entering computing degrees, I know I didn’t give much consideration to that sort of thing when picking my degree and I’d imagine most 17/18 year olds wouldn’t be aware of this as it’s not something most people encounter until they actually end up in one of the jobs where it is apparent. Would be interesting to see if the data would suggest otherwise
Because every greedy, money-grabbing one-percenter is willing to suspend his lust for cash just to hire people who look a bit like him?
@Tim Stephen Hendy <- Nailed it.
"If you aren’t a libertarian white or Asian male we don’t want to hear from you"
@David
What does libertarianism have to do with anything? The only connection I can see is that your thinking is so steeped in academic feminism – which is heavily based on marxism – that you view anyone who doesn't roll over and accept what you say as a libertarian.
"Whether it’s snapchat or tinder or zeebox or stackoverflow we see incredible misogyny from C. Level down which would never ever be tolerated in any other industry."
You got a source you can cite for any of that?
When will people just accept that men are better at some things and women are better at other things. End of.
Tech brogrammers are sexist, they don’t hire women. Simple really.
ahh Jack don’t pull a hissy fit.
I’ve actually no interest in academic feminism but I do strongly support equal rights for women. You seem to have some issue around paranoia but you sound like a MRA activist.
All the companies I mentioned have had recent sexism scandals at C level and down. Do you even follow the tech industry.
A vote for the promotion of ability over gender or race quotas….
In a computing course of 100 undergraduates less than ten percent will be female. The fact that less than ten percent of the workforce in the same industry is female isn’t discrimination on behalf of the employers its just a fair reflection of the ratio of available qualified potential employees.
I’ve also noticed a shocking lack of short people playing professional basketball, is anyone investigating this?
According to An Bord Altranais (2013 register) there are a total of 127,697 registered nurses in Ireland, 8,682 of which are male.
Is this also news?
In some countries, women only make up 1.1% of bricklayers. Something must be done about this!
And zero per cent of sewage workers and refuse workers. .. We need to impose a gender balance here too…
And I suppose the NBA are racist for me made up of predominantly Black Americans?
I don’t see any great clamor for gender equality in premier league football or formula 1, or indeed the tour de France….
I’m sure these companies hire people based on their qualifications and experience.
It’s hardly their fault if a certain ethnicity fails to meet the standard required.
You also have to look at the % training in programming etc. if there are 400% more whites and Asians than other races trained as programmers then it stands to reason there will be more hired. Say no to tokenism.
On top of this, the statistics relate to their worldwide workforce. With half of the world population being Asian, the Asians should really be the ones up in a huff about not having a higher proportion of the workforce. They have offices in Mumbai, Seoul, Tokyo and Singapore.
Along with Asia, they also have eight offices in Europe, one in Australia and two in South America. All of these areas have a lower black population than the USA, thus lowering the proportion of black personnel again. Yes, in an American’s eyes, it may look like a small percentage. But then again, that’s typically American, isn’t it? The world stops at their country’s borders.
Shocking reports in yesterday’s newspapers regarding the lack of men in the bra fitting industry.
I applied and was told to p iss off pervert! !!!!!
But is the trouble really that they’re not hiring women/other ethnicities or that these other demographics just aren’t training themselves in the skills needed?
I’m female, studying computer science with artificial intelligence. In a year of ~200, I am one of 15 girls. Out of those 15, only about 3 or 4 of us are on the “technical stream” (ie. programming), the rest are studying business computing.
If there were more women and other minorities in IT with tech skills, then we could blast Twitter and Google for lack of diversity, but the fact of the matter is… there’s not.
So maybe instead of pointing blame at these companies, we could point blame at the education systems and ask what’s going wrong that we aren’t teaching more people these skills, and why more aren’t interested.
Do you cover combinatorial optimisation in your course? Not strictly AI I know. Just wondering.
They’ll always be outliers but on the whole women don’t do computing in college. That is what happens.
I wonder about the ratio on the Journal staff myself from time to time. Where authors and articles are concerned I certainly would question it. In my experience, it tends to be pretty gynocentric all things considered.
One has to wonder if there is an agenda at play?
“Rescue services are busy these days. What are the bets someone will get into difficulty and drown tomorrow now that temperatures are due to soar? Thatâs a safe bet imo.”
How did that go for you after Niall?
http://www.thejournal.ie/drowning-water-safety-ireland-1526537-Jun2014/
Well considering 140 die per year, was it too much of a stretch to consider on a hot day summers day someone is more likely to drown?
Answers on a postcard……
Chin up, maybe next time
Don’t worry about it, kid. I don’t see the Journal as a ‘likeathon’ experience like your good self.
Look around any Computer Science class in the country. 98% male. How do people expect tech companies to hire 50/50 male / female when there just aren’t enough females to fill the roles.
To be fair Journal.ie, you showed us your tech team the other day and the very same can be said for you.
Bull. The amount of times I’ve tried finding a man on Twitter, and I haven’t gotten a single one yet. Explain THAT.
Because you’re fugly. .
Bit harsh.
64% of the US is “white”. But only 59% represented in the overall US barchart. The story here is the huge over-representation of Asians compared to their US population.
But as pointed out in another comment on this page which I’m too drunk to go looking for, Twitter have a good number of offices in Asian countries which accounts for the higher Asian representation and also in other countries outside the US which explains the lower Black or African American representation.
Comment was by Dennis Collins…. up there ^^^
Part of the problem is that a lot of the tech industry isn’t very inviting to women and minorities. Jane McGonical had said that she moved away from Silicon Valley because the “boys club” environment pissed her off. Another woman left her role as CEO of a small software company because all the devs (who were male) just sat around and drank beer all day. She set up another company with more diverse staff instead. At a games jam recently, a journalist covering the event kept trying to condescend the female participants to the point where entire teams completely quit the event entirely.
The industry is pretty volatile as it is. This kind of shit is dragging it down. We need all hands on deck to keep it going. Tech shouldn’t be some arcane or elitist boys club. Its important, it will always be important and putting people off pursuing it as a career will just hold it back.
It’s a bit of a chicken egg problem in that certainly the boys club environment can be intimidating or off putting for women but came about because of a lack of female interest in the technical professions. When I specialised in computers the % of girls I shared class with plunged dramatically.
This leads to predominantly male social groups which will inevitably contain the odd disaffected male nerd some of whom have had very little female social interaction through either school or college, they simply don’t know how to interact with women. These are the people that end up populating small firms and create that men only vibe, even though the majority of male employees would probably relish a bit of gender balance in their work teams.
Obviously that needs to stop but I’m not sure how to address it, the misogyny is unacceptable but I don’t think even wiping it out completely would result in gender balance. I don’t know why women aren’t drawn to computing in the same numbers as men, but at the same time I don’t know why men aren’t drawn to teaching, nursing, biology, medicine, social work or the arts to the same extent as women. This issue seems to get a lot of attention in tech mainly because tech jobs are generally very well paid and the main source of lucrative new business in the country. If tech weren’t as economically important then we wouldn’t see half as much of this, just like we don’t hear about why we don’t have more female refuse workers or more male beauty salon workers.
I agree. Having attended an all girls school I couldn’t understand why more of my peers weren’t interested in computers. Most were exceptionally bright and would have had the aptitude for a tech career. My interest in IT came from home rather than school.
I’d like to change a lot of things about our school system but the biggest would be to abolish single gendered schools. I don’t see how we can create equality of opportunity while we still segregate the sexes. Also I might be wrong but I suspect it’d help with our alcohol problem
Since when are Asians NOT a minority?
“Too Many Asians” doesn’t sound like much of a campaign slogan to me, but this is the entire truth of what is being said here. Racist b*****ds.
They’re hitting 50/50 in non-tech roles. Why not retrain in-house as a first port of call? The women currently working for them have shown some level of interest in tech industry and have an awareness of how the organisation operates. They’d also have multi-skilled loyal workers at the end of it, and create an extremely positive progressive model for other women to follow.
I don’t think you appreciate the extent of the knowledge and skills required for someone to be made into a competent software developer. The cost and effort of retraining non technical staff would be enormous and would still result in a bunch of non technical roles to be filled. It’s much easier to hire people straight out of college who have spent 4 or more years developing their abilities. Also doing all training in house would lead to an extremely narrow knowledge base and creative stagantion
“Why not retrain in-house as a first port of call? ”
Yes. Great idea. And why not train nurses to be doctors and legal secretary’s to be lawyers in-house.
Ciaran – you might be right but maybe it’s still worth asking. Attempts to increase female uptake of programming courses from general population seem to be failing so could be time to look at women who are involved in some way in tech.
Jack – don’t get your knickers in a knot sweetheart, it was just a suggestion. Now, why don’t you take your sweet ass out and get me a coffee? My puny brain could never figure out those machines. Mwah.
They are hiring the best, ladies increase your efforts and you may with hard work get the same. Relying on tits as a qualification is disgraceful
If a journo can do a story on even one actual black programmer who has been knocked back from getting a start in one of these tech giants simply due to the colour of their skin, then I’ll take notice of Rev. Jesse’s guff. Until then… it’s a non-story I’m afraid.
In fairness why would anyone hire women, swanning off having babies with absolutely no regard for their job responsibilities. Men are a safer bet that’s why men get top jobs they actually turn up
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