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Irish pronunciations and British royals cited as concerns during naming of 2019-20 winter storms

Emails released under the Freedom of Information Act show how this year’s storms were named.

THE NUMBER OF Irish names, the spelling of ‘Róisín’ and the possibility of ‘Storm Daniel’ were among the concerns raised during the naming of this year’s winter storms.

Correspondence released to TheJournal.ie under the Freedom of Information Act reveals how Met Éireann, the UK Met Office and – for the first time – the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI) decided upon storm names for the 2019-20 season.

It is the fifth year that Irish and UK offices have shared responsibility for designating the storms under the ‘Name Our Storms’ scheme, which aims to raise awareness of severe weather before it hits.

The names are used when a wind storm is strong enough for either office to issue an orange or red warning.

An alternating male-female pattern is followed, with names beginning with letters Q, U, X, Y and Z excluded to comply with international conventions.

This year, Atiyah, Brendan, Ciara, Dennis, Ellen, Francis, Gerda, Hugh, Iris, Jan, Kitty, Liam, Maura, Noah, Olivia, Piet, Róisín, Samir, Tara, Vince and Willow were selected and formally unveiled on 6 September.

Pronunciation of Irish names

A list of names sent from the UK Met Office to Irish and Dutch meteorologists on 16 August shows that 18 other names were initially proposed, which included some names from KNMI.

They suggested the names Anne, Ben, Caitlin, Cora, Dave, Elaine, Evelyn, Finlay, Harley, Isabella, Jonathan, Loki, Leo, Nico, Ruby, Tess, Tara and Wilma.

The proposed list also included the name Róisín, but an email from the Met Éireann on 23 August clarified that the UK Met Office had mis-spelled the name.

“Just one point, Róisín has an acute accent (fada) over the ‘o and the second ‘i’,” it read. “It is pronounced Raw-sheen and means little Rose.”

Another email on the same date from the KNMI also explained the Dutch meteorologist’s reason for dropping a previous suggestion of Eimear over concerns about how British people would react to it:

Eimear is an Irish girls’ name (pron. Eemer) and we think the British population may struggle with pronunciation too, so we have decided to use Elaine.

Celebrity names

In the same thread, the UK Met Office also expressed concerns about other suggested names because of their associations with celebrities.

Following suggestions from the KNMI that Maxima could be used as a tribute to the Dutch queen and Harry as an homage to one of its former press officers, the Met Office warned that this may result in some “interesting headlines”.

“We aren’t able to use names belonging to members of the British royal family, so we can’t have Harry unfortunately… ” a meteorologist wrote on 23 August.

“Do you think the Dutch media might behave the same with Maxima?”

Replying, Met Éireann pushed for another Irish inclusion, suggesting Hugh instead:

Did we agree on Gerda…? If that’s the case, can I suggest for H we go for Hugh to get another Irish name on the list? Hugh is pronounced Huw, and there is a Welsh equivalent Huw.

The Met Office also dismissed the possibility of including Daniel on the list because a storm with that name would be associated with a woman who alleged that she had an affair with US President Donald Trump.

“I’ve changed D to Derek as that was the next most popular name that we could use,” an email read.

“We had a few ‘Daniels’ but we couldn’t use this… ‘Stormy Daniels’ etc)”.

A final list of names was eventually agreed in early September, and released to the public a few days later.

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    Mute JusticeForJoe
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    Oct 7th 2022, 2:58 PM

    Why did we ever need planning permission for this??

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    Mute OConnelj
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    Oct 7th 2022, 4:38 PM

    @JusticeForJoe: in case a storm takes one and someone loses a head.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 4:55 PM

    @JusticeForJoe: because some people thought more than 12 panels woukd be excessive and unsightly. Times have changed.

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    Mute Luke Ronan
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    Oct 7th 2022, 11:16 PM

    @JusticeForJoe: to keep the public servants in employment. A pencil pushing exercise

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    Mute François Pignon
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    Oct 7th 2022, 3:30 PM

    Getting planning permission in Ireland depends very much on who is in charge of looking at it and what humour they are in on the day. We tried 3 separate designs for a sunroom and were turned down for them all. Then we met with the planners, got angry with them for being evasive and next thing you know they decided to approve our very first design.

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    Mute Jim Buckley Barrett
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    Oct 7th 2022, 3:53 PM

    @François Pignon: you forgot the brown envelope

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    Oct 7th 2022, 5:42 PM

    @François Pignon: So they rejected three of your designs and then approved your first design?

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    Oct 7th 2022, 6:19 PM

    @François Pignon:

    Todays planners can’t read or interpret actual 2D drawings anymore, much less use a scale rule. They need 3D pictures these days and still won’t visit a site to meet with the applicant. That alone would save so much time.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 7:25 PM

    @Jim Buckley Barrett: totally agree, it makes all the difference, but I still can’t do it! They’re so corrupt!

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    Oct 7th 2022, 2:47 PM

    Shame we can’t get solar tiles here.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 3:30 PM

    @Sequoia: they don’t work so probably a good thing

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    Oct 7th 2022, 4:39 PM

    @Craic_a_tower: Teslas solar roof is widely accepted as a quality solar roof tile installation. They do indeed work. They just have far more limited fitment options than traditional solar.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 9:23 PM

    @Sequoia: brilliant suggestion, only spoke about EV Tiles yesterday.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 3:39 PM

    Apartment owners very much restricted from installing solar panels as roofs are common areas and therefore do not belong to the apartment owner.

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    Mute JusticeForJoe
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    Oct 7th 2022, 3:47 PM

    @Dermot Cronin: Owners of apartment buildings should be legally obliged to install them, even though the savings per apartment would be minimal

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    Mute Sean
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    Oct 7th 2022, 4:36 PM

    @Dermot Cronin: well if you’ve no roof you can’t install solar yes that stands to reason.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 5:15 PM

    @JusticeForJoe: Because they are closer to the sun?

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    Oct 7th 2022, 7:23 PM

    @JusticeForJoe: apartments are already more efficient per sq foot than most houses. Roof space per dwelling in apt blocks would generally be much smaller than houses, this gets worse the more floors up you go.

    Would love to hear your rationale as to legally forcing apartment owners to fit them, however I suspect you have not thought it through in any detail.

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    Mute Dermot Cronin
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    Oct 7th 2022, 8:34 PM

    @Sean: The roof of a 4 apartment duplex could easily facilitate solar panels.
    Lease and other legal restrictions can be overcome but it is a very cumbersome process.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 9:25 PM

    Well done, keep the common sense decisions coming and keep reporting them.

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    Oct 8th 2022, 7:51 AM

    Is there still a 50cm limit needed from edge of the roof?

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    Oct 8th 2022, 11:38 PM

    @FlyingHaggis: yes I believe that is a health and safety requirement.

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    Oct 8th 2022, 12:57 PM

    It proves that if they really wanted, politicians could easily change regulations when it comes to building/planning applications.

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