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'It takes two to tango': UK and EU officials to resume Brexit talks in Brussels

There are doubts about the feasibility of a British proposal to track goods as they move through Northern Ireland.

LAST UPDATE | 14 Oct 2019

BORIS JOHNSON IS coming under pressure to concede more ground to Brussels as hopes for an early breakthrough in the Brexit talks appeared to falter.

UK and EU officials will resume talks in the Belgian capital today with the prospects of an agreement in time for Britain to leave with a deal on 31 October in the balance.

Time is rapidly running out if there is to be an agreement to put to EU leaders to sign off on at their two-day summit starting on Thursday.

The EU’s chief negotiator Michel Barnier said “technical-level” talks between officials over the weekend had proved “constructive”.

But in a briefing to ambassadors of the remaining EU27 on Sunday in Brussels, he said that “a lot of work remains to be done”.

Earlier Johnson told senior ministers that while a “pathway” to a deal could still be seen, there was “still a significant amount of work to get there”.

In a Cabinet conference call, he said that they still had to be prepared to leave on Halloween without a deal.

And Leader of the House, Jacob Rees-Mogg, has said the government could achieve a no-deal Brexit by using European law.

“They know that it takes two to tango and any extension has to be agreed by the council,” he said on BBC’s Radio 4 Westminster Hour.

“Theresa May got an extension not through UK law, but through EU law and until the 1972 European Communities Act is repealed, EU law is superior law in the UK.

“And the remainiacs all know that, because they know that it takes two to tango and any extension has to be agreed by the council.”

The backstop

The sticking point remains the issue of the Northern Ireland backstop intended to guarantee there is no return of a hard border with the Republic.

Barnier was reported to have raised concern about the complexity of a British plan to keep Northern Ireland in the UK customs territory while avoiding the need for border controls.

There were reported to be doubts about the feasibility of the scheme which was said to involve tracking goods as they move through Northern Ireland and then determining the tariff to be paid depending where they end up.

Court action 

It raised the prospect that negotiations could carry on after this week, with the possibility of an emergency EU summit at the end of the month to finally approve any 11th hour agreement.

However if Johnson cannot get a deal by the weekend, he will come under intense pressure to seek a further Brexit delay, something he has vowed not to do.

Labour however has warned that if necessary it will take action through the courts to force him to comply with the co-called Benn Act which requires him to request an extension.

Either way, the stage is set for a major showdown when the Prime Minister returns to Westminster for an emergency Saturday sitting of Parliament, the first in 37 years.

If he cannot get deal he is widely expected to blame MPs for cutting the ground from under him, laying the ground for a “people versus Parliament” general election.

If he is able to get an agreement, Government sources have said they will seek to rush through legislation to ratify it in time for the promised Halloween withdrawal date.

Some opposition MPs have signalled they could support an agreement if there was a a requirement to put it to the public in a confirmatory referendum.

However Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn indicated he had little enthusiasm for the idea.

“I think many in Parliament, not necessarily Labour MPs but others, might be more inclined to support it (if there was a referendum) even if they don’t really agree with the deal. But I would caution them,” he said.

Speaking to the media this morning, Tánaiste Simon Coveney said: “A deal is possible and it’s possible this month, may even be possible this week but we’re not there yet …”

Queen’s Speech

Johnson, meanwhile, is putting a crackdown on violent and foreign criminals at the centre of the first Queen’s Speech of his premiership in a bid to “restore confidence” in the justice system.

The package of 26 bills will include legislation to keep serious criminals in prison for longer, impose tougher sentences on foreign offenders who return to the UK and provide better protection for victims of domestic abuse.

They will sit alongside measures intended to invest in the NHS, strengthen environmental protections and raise living standards through increasing the national living wage to £10.50 an hour.

Ahead of the speech, Chancellor Sajid Javid announced he is planning to hold a Budget just six days after the UK’s scheduled Brexit date.

Mr Javid tweeted: “On 6th November I’ll deliver Britain’s first Budget after Brexit and set out our plan to shape the economy and deliver our infrastructure revolution.”

Responding to the announcement, shadow chancellor John McDonnell said: “We expect more of the same. An electioneering stunt rather than a budget to rebuild our stalling economy and reset the direction of our country.”

With no Commons majority, it is questionable how much of the proposed legislation in the Queen’s Speech ministers can get through Parliament before a general election.

Labour has dismissed the decision to hold the speech before the Government goes to the country as a “cynical stunt” intended to lay the ground for an election.

Shadow home secretary Diane Abbott said: “This Queen’s Speech is farcical.

“It is just an uncosted wish list which the Government has no intention and no means to deliver, and nothing more than a pre-election party political broadcast.”

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    Mute Geoff Bateman
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    Nov 14th 2021, 8:51 AM

    So we ship peat in from Lithuania instead.. Brilliant government decisions once again

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    Nov 14th 2021, 9:50 AM

    @Geoff Bateman: Why would anyone buy peat from abroad? There are loads of alternatives

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    Nov 14th 2021, 10:59 AM

    @Mickety Dee: I believe this is being done for the horticulture industry.

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    Nov 14th 2021, 9:03 AM

    The bogs are largely gone at this stage. It was over 30 years ago that campaigns were underway by David Bellamy and Dutch groups who were buying up bogs to stop them being destroyed. Bord na Mona have plundered a nations heritage, destroyed in 50 years what nature took 10000 years to produce and as this ecological asset was destroyed all the sequestered carbon was released into the atmosphere to contribute to the greenhouse effect and climate change. They have woken up very very late to their environmental responsibilities.

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-08-26-mn-283-story.html

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    Mute Alan Kenny
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    Nov 14th 2021, 8:14 AM

    Absolutely destroyed the bog lands of Ireland with their large scale intensive cutting and yet it’s the small farmer who gets punished.

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    Mute Tony Brady
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    Nov 14th 2021, 9:58 AM

    If a tonne of concrete emits a tonne of carbon how much carbon is emitted by Bord na Mona building wind farms on the bogs considering each pylon can take up to five hundred tonnes to stabilise them. Why are they not forced to go solar. Thanks

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    Mute Piggy
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    Nov 14th 2021, 12:49 PM

    @Tony Brady: it’s not really about carbon… it’s about money! And right now wind is the most profitable energy source

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    Mute Stephen Sj O'Byrne
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    Nov 14th 2021, 9:51 PM

    @Piggy: Indeed – at the expense of the rest of us via an ever growing list of levies on bills

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    Nov 16th 2021, 3:53 AM

    @Tony Brady: I would assume they’re probably using GGBS rather than Portland cement-based concrete in the builds , it’s becoming industry standard at about 4% of the carbon content with better long term compressive strength. The industry isn’t sleepwalking on that issue

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    Nov 20th 2021, 1:27 AM

    @Brian Carroll: What does GGBS mean to ordinary people not involved in the industry?

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    Nov 14th 2021, 8:31 AM

    We need to allow a certain amount of cutting if we are not offsetting correctly. Specifically in relation to imports from further afield. Bord Na Mona has started to become more environmentally responsible but it needs to up it’s game. Hopefully the China, India, Russia & US can get there acts together and stop pollution of the earth as they are far and away the worst. Ireland does have these wonderful bog lands which are technically lungs for the earth as they are natural carbon sinks. Hopefully as cutting decreases and bogs are allowed to return to more sustainable places we can do our little bit. But if the big polluters like CIRUS continue to act like a virus then we are all fecked.

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    Mute DK
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    Nov 14th 2021, 10:20 AM

    Has anyone seen this bog rehabilitation in work? I have and it looks like a big waste of time and money to me. In the article BnM mention walkways, amenities etc. being built. Has anyone heard anything about these because I don’t remember hearing anything. I know its early days but would be nice to hear what plans they have in store.

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    Mute Gearoid De Nogla
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    Nov 14th 2021, 10:55 AM

    @DK: When you get €108m from government to “restore” bogs, it’s easy do it, or shaping like you’re doing it. How much will government give to private developers who have also been stopped? Those bogs are far less depleted and far better subjects for restoration than the BNM ones. Once again, Irish government policy is on the big fake when it comes to looking good to Brussels.
    Government took over a bog near Shinrone around twenty years ago and have allowed it dry out completely, to where restoration now, would be almost impossible.
    The BNM “valuation” is as credible as its restoration work. As one esteemed great leader might have said, smokes and mirrors.

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    Nov 14th 2021, 11:07 AM

    @DK: Some lovely walkways and trails, Loch Boora is a prime example
    https://www.loughboora.com

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    Nov 14th 2021, 11:17 AM

    @Francis Devenney: Lough Boora is there about 20 years, it has nothing to do with this ‘Just Transition’. Any examples of recent or upcoming walkways or trails?

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    Nov 14th 2021, 11:45 AM

    @DK: The Gap trail in Donegal and Mountlucas are the only other two I’ve done. All three worth doing if you’re into walking.There’s also some really nice bog walks on the Leitrim way, not sure if they’re BnM lands or not,

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    Nov 14th 2021, 1:17 PM

    @DK: why do you think it’s a waste of time?

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    Mute Stephen Sj O'Byrne
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    Nov 14th 2021, 9:52 PM

    @DK: It a big con job to say a bog is “rehabilitated” when you plonk an industrial wind farm on it.

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    Nov 14th 2021, 10:10 AM

    If a tonne of concrete emits a tonne of carbon and each turbine takes up to five hundred tonnes of concrete to stabilise it how many tonnes of carbon is being emitted by Bord na Mona and others building wind farms. Why is solar and anaerobic digesters not used by them or is wind more profitable to their investors

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    Nov 14th 2021, 10:58 AM

    @Tony Brady: Wind is the best harvester, not of energy, but of subsidies.

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    Nov 14th 2021, 3:12 PM

    The Boglands if Ireland are also home to many wild birds some of which are endangeed species . Yet the wind turbines cut them to pieces as the birds cannot see the rotating blades .In the US there are reports of pikes if dead birds at the foot of these giant structures which are a terrible eyesore. Also , the carbon footprint of having to manufacture these wind turbines is not always included in the supposed benefits of wind power . Ditto fot the disposal of them after thier useful working life has expired , usually 20 years . Also the ” preparation” of sites on which these wind turbines have been located have caused ” bog quakes” with thousands of tons of turf sliding into rivers and resulting in major fish kills and destroying the spawning areas for salmon and trout for decades . This supposed “Green Technology” is not as green as they would have you believe .

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    Nov 15th 2021, 11:55 AM

    @Tony Duffy: Very valid points you’ve highlighted there. I was quite shocked to hear that a wind turbine has only got an expected average lifespan of 20 years. There really needs to be much more awareness-raising of facts such as these.

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    Nov 14th 2021, 10:14 AM

    Loose monetary policy and wild speculation

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    Nov 14th 2021, 12:09 PM

    Great to read all the positive comments.

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    Nov 14th 2021, 10:11 AM

    If a tonne of concrete emits a tonne of carbon and each turbine takes up to five hundred tonnes of concrete to stabilise it how many tonnes of carbon is being emitted by b na Mona and others building wind farms. Why is solar and anaerobic digesters not used by them or is wind more profitable to their investors

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    Nov 14th 2021, 8:41 PM

    It would be nice to see BnM re-employ people displaced by this transition into new roles in an expanded BnM and more turnover and more jobs in the communities most affected by the stopping of turf cutting and processing.
    On another note , an article like this on Coillte could be interesting too.

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