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St. Michael's Estate in Inchicore ahead of its redevelopment (file photo) Sasko Lazarov/RollingNews.ie

Plans lodged for state's first integrated housing scheme for older people at St Michael's Estate

The housing will be the first of more than 500 new units built at the Inchicore estate.

A PLANNING APPLICATION for the first batch of more than 500 new homes at St Michael’s Estate in Inchicore has been lodged with Dublin City Council.

Circle Voluntary Housing Association has applied to construct 52 apartments as part of a pilot housing scheme which aims to provide social benefits to older people.

The scheme is separate to plans announced last year for hundreds of new homes at the site, which will form Ireland’s first-ever ‘cost rental’ housing scheme.

It will act as an integrated housing development for older people which will allow them to remain in their own homes for as long as possible.

According to a planning application submitted by Circle, the development will consist of 16 two-bedroom apartments and 36 one-bedroom apartments.

The complex will also contain communal facilities on its ground floor, including staff offices and a publicly accessible tea room, as well as a roof terrace on top of the building.

Outside, resident courtyards and a landscaped open space will face on to the St Michael’s Estate Road) and will include a new vehicle setdown area. There will also be 15 car parking spaces and 52 bicycle parking spaces at the site.

Last year, the Department of Housing announced that it would provide €15m in funding for the scheme, with junior minister Damien English saying that the apartments would set a new standard in the future of state housing for older people.

“These homes are being future proofed even before they are built, with extra space in all the homes to allow for care staff and/or family overstays, whichever is the more appropriate as time goes by,” English said at the time.

The Department expected the complex to be completed by 2020 when it was announced last year. The council is receiving submissions on the proposed development until the end of this month.

The planning application comes a decade after a Public-Private Partnership with developer Bernard McNamara to build 720 new homes on the site collapsed.

A further 470 social and private homes are expected to be built on the remainder of the site as part of Ireland’s first-ever cost-rental scheme.

Those plans attracted controversy after Fine Gael junior minister Catherine Byrne hit out at them, despite them being welcomed by Minister for Housing Eoghan Murphy.

At the time, Byrne – a local TD – said that the plans “looked like overdevelopment” and represented a “bad day for the community”.

Earlier this week, it also emerged that more ‘cost rental’ housing could be given over to another approved housing body as part of plans for the regeneration of O’Devaney Gardens on the city’s northside.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:41 AM

    They also have a tendency to use forged passports (Irish) to commit assassinations abroad.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:30 PM

    @Brian Casey: Well since israel is a rogue illegal state back by the US to do its dirty work as in bombing countries such as Syria into the stone age a few assaninations is a walk in the park for them.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 1:28 PM

    @noBankAccBertie: Israel is not illegal but a recognised state of the UN. The reason there is no Palestinian state is the refusal of the Palestinians to recognise Israel’s existence and enter into peace talks. Israel has made offers and all have been refused. Israel is here to stay as a homeland for the Jewish people and the Palestinians and their leftist mouthpieces in Ireland need to deal with it.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 1:57 PM

    @An_Fear_Liath: Just like the Irish didn’t recognise the British rule of their country and the plantations.

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    Feb 11th 2018, 9:41 AM

    @An_Fear_Liath: walking on dog dirt does not make it part of your shoe. Just something that smells dab and is difficult to remove. We had British dog dirt on our shoes here in Ireland and managed to get it removed

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    Mar 7th 2018, 9:05 AM

    @noBankAccBertie: is it the misogyny, the homophobia, the polygamy, the Paedophilia or the wife beating that attracts you to Arab life, or all of them together?
    Israel being a beacon of western style secular democracy and human rights in the Middle East.

    It the child brides that interest you, go on just admit it.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:38 AM

    What about some aid work around Dublin city centre

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:43 AM

    @Alan Farrell: you don’t want Israel doing their aid work with F16′s in Dublin do you?

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:43 AM

    @Alan Farrell: Dublin is in Ireland, article is about Palestine.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:44 AM

    @Alan Farrell: you do realize that life exists outside Dublin. Dublin doesn’t have a monopoly on the poor and disheveled, as much as it may seem.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:49 AM

    @Royston Fitzpatrick: Article is about aid

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:50 AM

    @Royston Fitzpatrick: Article is about aid

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:51 AM

    @Joe Mc mahon: No I thought this was it

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:44 PM

    @Alan Farrell: seems like it. But then again it’s something most dubs suffer from.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 5:49 PM

    @Joe Mc mahon: not guilty of that

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:42 AM

    Beggars belief how we and the west can stand by on Israeli aggression.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:23 PM

    @@kudzu_dub: the west is also allied with Saudi. Amazing how cheaply we happily sell our supposed morals and principles

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:34 PM

    @@kudzu_dub: pretty simple really….Israel controls the US and so the other lapdog countries follow along.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 7:50 PM

    @An_Fear_Liath: anti-Semitic bigot – for that comment? you are quite mad.

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    Feb 11th 2018, 12:13 PM

    @noBankAccBertie: Israel and their Zionist Jew supporters don’t just control the US, they “own” it, and see nothing wrong with their subversion of the US political process by bribes and intimidation. The same can happen to any country where these people get a foothold.
    https://youtu.be/hXaCym8RjJU

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    Mar 7th 2018, 9:07 AM

    @@kudzu_dub: because Islam is despicable and Arabs nations have the worst human rights records on the planet. His about that?

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:53 AM

    Japan said the other day they will fully recognize Palestine and give extra aid money.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:59 AM

    Fear has never been a dominating trait in the Japanese.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:02 PM

    Why did nobody want to admit the thousands of jewish refugees from Europe after WW2? Was that the reason why the State of lsrael was set up? To house a people nobody wanted?
    Plenty of Arab countries to move to if the Palestinians don’t like it but only one Jewish homeland. Israel Abu!

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:04 PM

    @Kevin Slater: “Was that the reason why the State of lsrael was set up?”

    Nope

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:10 PM

    @Kevin Slater:I suppose you would be willing to give up your home if some immigrants arrived and told you their ancestors had lived there two thousand years ago ?

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:12 PM

    @Gavan Duffy: jews are indigenous to that land they are no immigrants . Arabs invaded that region and North Africa. They are the colonisers. Arabs come from Arabia. Jews come from Judea. Now who are the invaders ? The Arabs

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:19 PM

    @IrishLiberal: If you move from Europe or America after your family living there for generations you are an immigrant, regardless of where your ancestors might have came from.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:26 PM

    @Kevin Slater: I think your take on the history of the region is flawed, Kevin. There was always a Jewish population in the region. Themselves and the Arabs lived and farmed together for centuries.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 7:55 PM

    @IrishLiberal: Well in Ireland circa 2000BC it was ruled by the Fomorian’s/Fir Bolg’s, the Celts were invaders, the Normans were invaders, the English, Scots were invaders so? so bloody what! Turning up with the dead sea scrolls and claiming someones property is kinda rather dubious.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 10:16 PM

    @Austin Rock: They didn’t claim anybody’s property. They bought property. Swampland at inflated prices.

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    Feb 11th 2018, 12:37 PM

    @IrishLiberal: The Jews captured Palestine and held it for 60 years some two thousand years ago. The Palestinians have had their own identity there since the seventh century. How does 60 years compare with 1260 years?

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    Sep 12th 2018, 9:32 PM

    @Austin Rock: Fir Bolg were bloody Fairy tales, fir bolg means “carrier of wet soil” (or dirt). Because they carried Mud from Greece to Fertilise Irish soil. Ireland was Colonised by the Celts 12,000 years ago. Nobody lived in Ireland before then. It’s hardly the same thing as what Arabian Muslims did to native Jews of Judea.

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    Sep 12th 2018, 9:34 PM

    @Ruaridgeback: Jews were native to… JUDEA which is in ISRAEL. They lived there as early as 12,000BC. Their land was stolen in 500AD. they Recaptured it in 950AD. They lost it again in 1150AD. They Recaptured it again in 1950AD

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:47 AM

    Israeli government and media would consider Ireland the most anti Israel country in the EU…Even more than Russia which has better relationship with Israel in recent years…Dont think most Irish people have understanding of conflict from Israeli side…

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:56 AM

    @John003: Irish people lived under occupation just like the Palestinian people do now. We understand very well their desire for freedom, equality and their own state.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:59 AM

    @John003: Do you not?

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    Feb 10th 2018, 7:56 PM

    @John003: No we don’t when we see what was done to the Jews in Europe and then we see what they are doing in the Middle East – they certainly learned a lot – from the Nazi’s.

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    Feb 11th 2018, 11:42 AM

    @John003: I think you are defending the indefensible. Let’s call a spade a spade Israeli behaviour towards the Palestinians regardless of your viewpoint on the conflict has been deplorable. Believe it or not most decent citizens find their behaviour objectionable and governments are perfectly within their rights to criticise Israeli policies. The problem is any criticism of their policies and the anti semitism card is thrown by them and their apologists to shut down debate.

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    Feb 11th 2018, 12:39 PM

    @John003: on the contrary, most Irish people understand exactly what it’s like to historically live under the Jackboot of a colonising oppressor.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:23 PM

    China has illegally occupied and annexed Tibet for nearly 70 years, they have diluted the Tibetan population though mass Chinese inward migration and settlement on Tibetan land, they make it illegal for Tibetans to engage in their tradition of religious worship and they engage in mass subjugation of the Tibetan people.
    If we accept the criticism of Israel, the crimes of China are far worse but there are no Dail motions of criticism, no Tibetan flags flown by Dublin City Council, no howls of outrage by the radical Left against China? It’s strange how Israel seems to be held to a different standard to other counties?

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:46 PM

    @Fintan O’flaois: Part of the reason that less people are outraged about Tibet, in my opinion, is to do with what existed before the Chinese came along.

    The Dalai Lama and his ridiculous religious feudal system – which he wants to reinstate – is hardly something rational people want to get behind.

    What the Chinese are doing is completely and utterly atrocious, but the a lot of the powerful people who want their rule to end just want to subjugate people too.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:52 PM

    @Fintan O’flaois: Because Israelis build from scratch a modern, western, technologically advanced, liberal democracy in a region of the world littered with failed states. Not only that, they did it while absorbing millions of destitute Jewish refugees from all over the world and while facing constant threats to the very survival of the state and its people. They didn’t simply hold out a begging bowl to the world and play the victim. They represent everything the hard left hate – liberal democracy, capitalism, innovation, responsibility, Western values.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 1:13 PM

    @Damon16: with a lot of help from the US govt.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 1:32 PM

    @Mrs ChiRunner Momma: Yes, the US gives military aid to Israel …… and to Egypt, and to West Bank, Jordan, Pakistan, Afghanistan. People conveniently leave that out.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 1:53 PM

    @Fintan O’flaois: Would you also argue we shouldn’t have singled out South Africa because China wasn’t boycotted too?

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    Feb 10th 2018, 2:11 PM

    @Damon16:Arab Israelis live as second class citizens in their own country with dozens of discriminatory laws that apply only to them, hardly liberal Western democratic values.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 2:43 PM

    @Gavan Duffy: Which discriminatory laws? Arab citizens of Israel have all the rights that Jewish citizens have – the vote, freedom of religion, movement, employment, education. One of the most successful groups in Israel are actually Arab Christians. Is there some inequities, yes. But you can say the same about African-Americans in the US or travelers in Ireland. One thing is for sure, no state in the middle east comes anywhere close to respecting the rights and traditions of its minorities to the degree Israel does.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 8:00 PM

    @Fintan O’flaois: One of the few countries to object to the Chinese invasion on the UN security council (Ireland had a seat) was Ireland. Its not strange – if Israel makes the wrong move a Nuke can easily be fired and then its curtains for everyone.

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    Feb 11th 2018, 12:17 PM

    @Fintan O’flaois: when you use your real name rather than your fake Irish one, intended to mask your Zionist identity, perhaps your view may gain some traction. In the meantime, try the Hasbara trolling somewhere else.

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    Feb 11th 2018, 12:42 PM

    @Damon16: is colonisation, ethnic cleansing, and brutal oppression of an indigenous population a ‘western value?’

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    Feb 11th 2018, 6:51 PM

    @Colm O’Brien: No, I am asking why there is an inconsistency – why is Israel insulted out; is there an underlying anti Semitic influence amongst the radical Left, is anti-Semitism an acceptable form of racism for the Left? Please if there is some other factor that explains why Israel is singled out, please enlighten us?

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:56 AM

    O stop it, Palestine is not a country and should not be recognized as one

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:59 AM

    @stephen mc galey: Guess you never read the Balfour Declaration then. “His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine…

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:48 PM

    : he’s from Kerry Colm and spends his days sniffing fish guts. Putting one foot in front of the other is an achievement for this poor crater. Probably voted for the gombeens too.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:54 PM

    @Colm O’Brien: But the giving to Arab Palestinians three times as much territory as Jewish Palestinians in the form of Jordan seems to be ignored. Who started the Six Day War anyway or has that also been forgotten ?

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    Feb 10th 2018, 1:50 PM

    @Joe Mc mahon: at least I go to work!
    And no i didn’t vote for Healy Rae’s, and putting one foot in front of the other is an achievement, i take my little victory’s where i can :)

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:04 PM

    @stephen mc galey: Palestine was once called Moab and was to the East and not to the West???

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    Sep 12th 2018, 9:27 PM

    @Colm O’Brien: “his majesty” only supported Palestine because the Ottoman Empire was still in power until 1919. You also did not complete the quote you shitbag.

    The Quote is this

    “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

    He clearly supported Jewish Settlement into Israel but acknowledged that Jews should not impede on the lives of Muslims. Now the funny thing about British colonialism is, they weren’t very good at respecting other cultures or religions other than their own. So he probably didn’t know much a do about the subjugation of Jewish citizens BY Muslims.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:20 PM

    Everybody rightly condemns the genocide that was executed on the Jewish people, by the Nazi’s before and during World War 2. The Irish State under DeValera chose not to get involved in any meaningful condemnation of these atrocities.
    Now, the wheel has turned almost a full circle and, the Israeli state is practising state terror on the Palestinian people and nation.
    It is not genocide, but it has to be recognised and condemned by any fair minded thinking people. Yes, Israel deserves to exist and has the right to defend itself, but likewise the Palestinian people have also an ancient right to a Homeland.
    These people, like the Jews themselves have suffered from centuries of oppression from the Turkish, British and Jordanian governments.
    Stand up Leo, and call it what it is. It’s wrong.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:48 PM

    @odonnellp: Well said.

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    Feb 11th 2018, 1:40 AM

    @odonnellp: Very well said indeed. Ultimately Arabs and Jews are cousins, and should respect each other’s determination. Peaceful coexistence would be good.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:55 AM

    The journal writers seem to really hate Israel. Pity they don’t hate other countries that abuse people with such gusto

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:01 PM

    @Marc Power: Anyone striving for equality is now deemed a hater by those seeking to protect their privileged positions.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:03 PM

    @Marc Power: how do you make that out?

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:07 PM

    @Bilbo Baggins: because i can read and i have a brain

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:10 PM

    @Colm O’Brien: well what else can they be called? Hypocrites? Many other places in the world with a far blacker human rights history. But then again you can’t see that can you? You just see a parallel between Ireland and old perfidious albian. Shame really as more reasonable people would be interested if the hatred was balanced

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:11 PM

    @Marc Power: The Journal has always been a paper which pushes a distinct anti Israel narrative . It’s been that way since it started. No impartiality . Rarely ever give the Israeli side and always use images of Palestinians as civilians not terrorists but Israelis in military clothes or Netanyahu and not in civilian clothes. Go back through the last few Israel articles the photos speak a thousand words and are used to push a specific position.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:20 PM

    @IrishLiberal: Wow, probably THE most obvious Hasbara troll account I’ve ever seen on The Journal. Your English is 100% that of an Israeli.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 8:01 PM

    @Marc Power: Oh they do, Russia, Syria, Iran the usual MSM Western media targets from whom they purchase fake articles.

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    Feb 11th 2018, 12:48 PM

    @Royston Fitzpatrick: notice how Hasbara trolls present themselves with deceptive names designed to give an impression that they’re Irish. Deception and lying, repugnant to most decent people, is just another tool in their Hasbara MO.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:25 PM

    About time we had a PM who speaks his mind. There is no Palestinian State or people. If you buycott Israel say goodbye to most of you computer parts and medicine. Throw away your laptops and Phones if you are a true boycotter. Israel gave “The Palestinians” all they needed in the Oslo accords, arafart rejected it, they have only themselves to blame.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 2:14 PM

    @Ciaran Fitzsimons: The Palestinian Authority was set up under the Oslo Accords, signed by Arafat, have a read of the facts before you comment, it will make a lot more sense to the rest of us.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:42 AM

    Varadkar is such a lame duck that there is no way he will put his head above the parapet on this one. And the previous ones have been far too busy pandering to the banks, to risk upsetting the world banks puppet masters. There is no political will anywhere in the world to upset the zionists and they know it. So unfortunately Palestine and the Palestinians will continue to be persecuted on their own land as the world continues to sit on their hands. Disgraceful.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:51 PM

    Varadkar says this, varadkar says that. Who can believe a fella who changes his story depending on who he’s talking to!

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:12 PM

    Seen by “many” of the international community as illegal???

    By all except Israel – the occupation and settlements are illegal.

    Disgraceful journalism

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    Feb 10th 2018, 1:29 PM

    If you want to know who the rulers of this planet are, find out who you are not allowed to criticize. Israel is Zionist HQ. Zionists control the private banking system, mainstream media and the music industry. Ask yourself why a small country of 8 million people plays such a prominent role in worldwide geo-political strategy, backed and funded by the US government and federal reserve.

    Zionists work together in a covert manner to extend their power and control to all countries via the usury financial enslavement system, they believe that they are Gods chosen people to rule over the rest of us “goyem”.

    Anybody who criticizes the Israeli government for their barbaric treatment of Palestinian people are labeled anti-semitic and you may have noticed that the mainstream media promote this idea relentlessly to shut down discussion and debate. You are the enemy of Israel if you speak out and tell the truth. Leo knows who he is not allowed to criticize.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 6:20 PM

    @Super Ted: Hmm, so just out of curiosity do the Jews, oops I mean “the Zionists” also poison the wells and abduct children for blood sacrifice or do they merely limit themselves to global domination and financial enslavement. If only a document could be uncovered outlining exactly what these ” Zionists” plan to do vis-a-vis global domination.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 8:11 PM

    @Damon16: Zionists have as much contempt for ordinary Jews as they do for the rest of us. I am not anti-semitic, I am anti-Zionist, there is a big difference. Humanity is under attack from a small group of people who have infiltrated the upper echelons of society in every country except North Korea, Iran, and Syria. Israel is itching for war with Iran and Syria primarily because they don’t operate a Zionist controlled central bank. The US government would bomb North Korea to smithereens if I wasn’t for the fact that China would retaliate.

    Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya were attacked for the same reasons, it had nothing to do with liberating the people from so called tyrannical leaders. They now have puppet governments installed and Zionist controlled central banks which will in-debt these countries to their usury financial system via huge loans to rebuild infrastructure (that they demolished) in return for control of the economy and resources.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 10:23 PM

    @Super Ted: Actually Ted, not just anybody who criticises the Israeli government gets called antisemitic. They have to also come out with things like:
    “Zionists control the private banking system, mainstream media and the music industry”

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    Feb 10th 2018, 11:29 PM

    @Sheryl Jackson: Read, “Confessions of an economic Hitman”, you’ll wake up and start to look at things objectively while seeing through the carefully constructed and slick mainstream media brainwashing that allows Zionists to control our perceptions of reality ;)

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:08 PM

    At least someone is speaking the truth. It’s hilarious, All the TD’s criticising Trump for recognising Jerusalem , are only to happy for Ireland to move unilaterally and recognise Palestine. Such hypocrites .

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:16 PM

    @IrishLiberal: Not the same thing at all, we already unilaterally recognize Israel, why not Palestine as well, Jerusalem should be shared between both.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:40 PM

    Jordan was set up as Arab Palestine and Israel as Jewish Palestine years ago. ?

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:43 PM

    Good man Leo off you go out to Palestine and proudly tell the locals you’re a proud gay man and see how long you would survive! Your an embarrassment to the country, btw how come no articles or comments on here or from Leo about Trinity lecturer and senior member of the Halawa mosque in Clonskeagh looking for female circumcision to be legalised?

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    Feb 10th 2018, 1:23 PM

    A Seanad bill was recently proposed to boycott goods from illegal Israeli settlements. No country considers the illegal settlements as part of Israel, yet the Irish government refused to support the bill as they consider it a boycott of Israel! Bizarre, hypocritical logic.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 1:52 PM

    @Colm O’Brien: lol Seaned we should get another shot at getting rid of that waste of tax payers money that provides jobs for failed politicians

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    Feb 10th 2018, 3:29 PM

    A country that does not respect the sovereignty of Irish UK and German passports.
    Why should we care what they think.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 5:23 PM

    @Maxwell Tsu-Araujo: Every intelligence service in the world uses foreign passports including the United States and Russia. Members of the Provisional IRA are believed to have used fake passports during the 1970s and 1980s on trips to Libya and elsewhere in the Middle East.

    Wonder what foreign passports the Directorate of Military Intelligence (“G2″) and the Garda Síochána Special Detective Unit (SDU) use?

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    Feb 10th 2018, 9:05 PM

    @David Guy: any country that uses a forged passport in my countries name gets no respect. Even if it is the US.
    If you want to assassinate someone. Do it in your own name.
    So I repeat… No respect for them.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:33 PM

    “We have Principles, yeah know!…

    And if you don’t like those we have others!”

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    Feb 10th 2018, 2:12 PM

    The Palestinians have only themselves to blame for the situation that they, and they alone, have put themselves in.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 4:53 PM

    @Adam Reid: Well they were on the wrong side in WW1 and WW2, but that was 75 years ago. Time for Israel, US and Egypt to help the Palestinians. And help Irelands Palestinians: N.I nationalists.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:49 PM

    JEWS in general are hated by most countries even more than Muslims. Here is a simple question ?? CAN THEY BE ALL WRONG ??

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    Feb 10th 2018, 4:51 PM

    Well maybe Mr Varadker could try and help Ireland’s Palestinians too- the N.I nationalists. Up to now F.G have bent over backwards for the Loyalists.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 3:04 PM

    This is ridiculas from leo varadkar.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 5:14 PM

    The Israeli government has a tendency to disengage with countries that support the Palestinian programme to destroy Israel and replace it with an Arab state.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 6:07 PM

    It would be far wiser for Fianna Fáil to oppose this misguided anti-Israel bill, rather than to join the Far-Left in making enemies of the custodians of the Holy Land.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 12:36 PM

    Most of the major west bank settlements would become a part of Israel in any two state solution in return for land swaps.So boycotting the settlements seems silly. Pressure needs to be put on both the sides to reach a solution. BOTH sides are to blame, yet we also focus on Israel.
    The Palestinian leadership still refuse to accept Israel as a Jewish state within any borders and treat terrorists who kill Israeli civilians as heroes. They refuse to guarantee peaceful co-existence in the event of a two-state solution and refused offers of a two state solution based on 67 borders multiple times in the past.

    By the same token, Israel needs to stop building new settlements and offer East Jerusalem to as the future capital of a Palestinian state. Years of failed negotiations (more often than not due to Palestinian refusal to accept a 2 state solution), constant rocket fire and terrorists attacks as pushed Israeli politics to the right. I would support t

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    Feb 10th 2018, 1:41 PM

    @Damon16: This is not a story of two equals fighting over a piece of land, it is a story of colonisation by the stronger power. Israel values land more than it does peace.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 2:32 PM

    @Colm O’Brien: Israel has been attacked by its much larger and more populous neighbors multiple times in its short history, whose intention was to ‘drive the Jews into the sea’. The only reason Israel controls the West Bank and the only reason why it still exists as a state today is because it defended itself against those repeated attacks. To view the conflict as Israel vs Palestinian people is to fail to understand the history of the conflict and its complexities. If Israel wasn’t the stronger power today then it wouldn’t exist and the majority of its Jewish population probably wouldn’t either.

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    Feb 10th 2018, 2:03 PM

    let them slug it out over there, just stop wasting Irish tax-payers money on it, socky

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    Feb 10th 2018, 8:48 PM

    I’m not too fond of Varadaker for his treatment of the underprivileged in this country, but i have to give credit where it is due. The Palestinians are a forgotten people who live in dreadful conditions and recognizing that can only help the Palestinian’s tragic situation.

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    Feb 11th 2018, 8:55 AM

    We will have all the anti Semites on now with there usual comments condemning Israel and praising the terrorist Arab states. Its not surprising Israel is wary of any country that recognises Palestine and financially supports Hamas (as Ireland does) because they want to wipe out the state of Israel and kill all Jews, Christians and anyone else with different beliefs to them. Ireland is probably the most hostile country to Israel in the EU.

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    Feb 11th 2018, 9:00 AM

    How do you now an anti Semite. They say their comments are not anti Semitic.

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    Feb 11th 2018, 11:05 AM

    Its been agreed by every party in the dail.Palestine people are being forcefully removed from. There homes is leo varadkar and finna gail ok with this? .im not .the zionist government in isreal dont listen to anybody and thats why there all ready thinking about closing there embassy in ireland

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    Feb 11th 2018, 3:58 AM

    Who cares? Stupid part of the world that would be insignificant if not for their petty squabbling and religious nutcasery…

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    Sep 12th 2018, 9:21 PM

    israel means

    Gay Rights
    Equal Wages
    Women’s Rights
    Religious Freedom
    Worker’s Rights
    Strong Economy
    Freedom of Speech.
    Protection

    Palestine means

    Subjugation of Women
    Censorship
    Islam
    Sharia Law
    Stoning of Gays
    Zero Compensation.
    Religious intolerance.

    Palestine used to be as powerful as the British Empire.
    Think about that the next time you want to treat them like they’re the “underdogs”.

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    Mar 7th 2018, 9:03 AM

    We certainly have shit on our streets, as you so adeptly proved.

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    Feb 11th 2018, 10:44 AM

    Less of the bigotry please!

    Can you believe I accidentally typed bigotry first, perhaps bogotry is more apt.

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