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Four nations, 650 seats and one elephant in the room: What to expect from the UK election?

Brexit, Brexit, Brexit, but what else do we need to know?

WHAT CAN WE expect from the UK election?

The latest poll from YouGov puts the Conservatives on 36%, Labour on 21%, the Lib Dems on 18, the Brexit Party on 13% and the Greens on 6%. Other candidates are on 6%. 

But let’s not rely to heavily on polls – almost anything could happen in this election. 

Boris Johnson is in the role as Prime Minister based on his ability to win voters over with his lovable-rogue style of politics and bizarre speeches; and Jeremy Corbyn finally has the election he’s been calling for, and another chance to prove the pollsters wrong – as well as some sections of the British media.

Meanwhile, the Lib Dems’ Jo Swinson is targeting the 16 million people who voted to remain in the EU as her potential electoral base; and former Ukipper Nigel Farage is heading up his new Brexit Party into its first general election, having won 35% of votes in the European election. 

In Northern Ireland, the DUP will battle to keep their 10 MP seats and Sinn Féin will be defending their abstention policy to the media again, while the UUP and SDLP will look to gain some ground without splitting the unionist or nationalist vote. 

Any one political move could change the outcome dramatically, including a ‘Leave’ pact between Johnson and Farage, or a ‘Remain’ pact between the Lib Dems and SNP. Here’s a more in-depth look at England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland.

Scotland

Don’t mention the court case

When the choice was between a general election before or after Christmas, the dominant Scottish National Party (SNP) would have preferred one before the end of January – before its prominent former leader and First Minister of Scotland Alex Salmond goes on trial charged with multiple counts of attempted rape and sexual assault. 

That will play to its favour, as will a few other factors. 

Ruth Davidson, the Tories hugely popular Scottish leader, resigned from her role earlier this year. She said this was because of family commitments (she gave birth to her son earlier this year) but also cited qualms over the Tories’ handling of Brexit.

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In her address to journalists, she asked MPs to get on with it and vote for a Brexit deal.

Labour, meanwhile, have had historic problems in Scotland because of the strength of the SNP, and as Scotland voted to Remain in the EU, the party’s wishy-washy stance on what it wants from the 2016 EU referendum result won’t help them one bit. But:

“The enthusiasm of Scottish Labour to campaign is palpable,” Jeremy Corbyn told the House of Commons on Tuesday. Let’s wait and see. 

Current make-up of the parties

 The SNP has 35 MPs, winning the majority of Scotland’s 59 seats in Westminster. It won 3 MEP seats in the European election, which represents half of Scotland’s total. 

As a result, the SNP is Scotland’s largest political party (in terms of seats in Westminster and the Scottish Parliament on Holyrood).

What do the polls say?

A YouGov poll from September this year puts the SNP on 43%, while a Panelbase poll from 11 October had them at 39%. In Scotland the Tories are on 20/21% in those same polls respectively, while Labour is on 15%/19%. 

The Liberal Democrats are on 12/13%, while the Brexit Party is on 6%/5% in Scotland, in what will be its first general election outing. 

There are a lot of tight-votes and bitter fights ahead of us in Scotland. In the current seats held, a dozen of the 59 seats were won my a majority of under 1% of the vote. In North East Fife, the SNP’s Stephen Gethins won a majority of just two.

What to look out for

Two tense battles are brewing in Glasgow – in the North East, Labour’s Paul Sweeney won back a seat from the SNP’s seven seats with a majority of just 242, and has since been made Labour’s Shadow Under-Secretary of State for Scotland. Whether he keeps his seat or not will tell us a lot. 

Glasgow East is another traditional Labour stronghold, and Natalie McGarry won the seat in 2015 – only to resign the whip and later be convicted of fraud, which she is appealing. David Linden replaced her in the by-election and won the seat by just 75 votes.

In Stirling, the Conservative candidate Stephen Kerr took a seat over the SNP by just 148 votes – things will be trickier this time for him. There have also been rumours that the prominent and Twitter-friendly SNP MEP Alyn Smith would contest the seat…

And finally, Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath will be a key area for the SNP to win back. An area where former Prime Minister Gordon Brown ran, it was won by Labour’s current Shadow Scottish Secretary Lesley Laird over the SNP’s Roger Mullin by 259 votes. 

England and Wales

Last time out

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The last UK election in 2017 saw a clear return to two-party politics across England and Wales. 

This time around, it’s already seemingly clear that this virtual duopoly on voter share is set to be eaten into next month. The question will be by how much and what effect it will have

Whereas Ukip had carved a niche for itself in the 2015 election and the Liberal Democrats entered government after a strong 2010, Theresa May’s snap election in 2017 was a two-horse race. 

Ukip’s collapse after the departure of Nigel Farage allowed Labour and the Conservatives to hoover up a combined 87% of the vote in England in 2017, taking all but 10 of the 523 English seats on offer. 

The Conservatives won 296 seats to Labour’s 227. 

In Wales, Labour won 28 of the 40 seats after a huge surge in its support that saw it win a mighty 70% of the vote. 

Welsh independence party Plaid Cymru won four seats, half of the Conservatives eight.   

Two, three, four party system?

If it’s a case of the major parties being brought back down to earth, it remains to be seen what sort of a landing they’ll get. 

Farage is back and he’s at the helm of the slicker and more disciplined Brexit Party, targeting seats where the two major parties could be weak. 

The Tories had hoped that Brexit would be a reality by the time that UK voted again, stymying the appeal of the Farage’s shiny new vehicle, but this has not happened. 

It means that  Farage has been attempting to talk up the idea of a Leave alliance. Even drafting in US President Donald Trump to try and get it off the ground. 

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But it’s not just Johnson that Farage could prove troublesome for.

The Brexit Party stealing votes from otherwise Labour-leaning voters in Leave voting constituencies might scupper Jeremy Corbyn’s chances of winning the marginal seats he needs to form a government. 

Labour faces the prospect of bleeding votes on two fronts, with the Liberal Democrats aggressively targeting Labour Remain voters with its vociferously anti-Brexit message and a promise to revoke Article 50. 

The Lib Dems have also been stealing Tory MPs and bringing them under the own banner (five at the latest count this year by Sky News), demonstrating how the dominance of both parties of both parties has been eroded. 

Labour activists have been bleating about a LibDem message which argues that it’s a smarter tactical vote to vote for them in some constituencies.

But how much all this plays out on election night is the real question.

Put up or shut up

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Johnson was comfortably elected as Conservative leader in July on a “do or die” platform of delivering Brexit.

For many of those who voted for him though, the real reason for putting him in charge was the belief that he could be a populist vote-getter come election time. 

Johnson himself seemed be in campaign mode from the start too, promising new rail links in northern England and Scotland within days of taking over

Now that the election has come (at the fourth time of asking) there is huge pressure on him to deliver the decisive victory Theresa May could not. Should he fail to do so his future would already be brought into question.  

Ditto for Corbyn, but for different reasons.

Including nationwide local elections, the last general election and the recent European elections, Corbyn will be fighting his fifth election as Labour leader 

The previous general election didn’t bring the party into government but was seen as a qualified success after Labour increased its vote share and won more seats. 

It was built on the back of Corbyn’s campaigning and the subsequent Corbynmania united a fractured party for a period. 

The problem now is that all that seems like a distant memory and questions lurk about whether that performance represents a high watermark for what Corbyn can achieve with Labour.  

A failure for him to become prime minister this time would likely mean his final chance had come and gone. 

Northern Ireland

All eyes on the DUP

dup-conference-2019 Nigel Dodds and Arlene Foster at the DUP conference last week. Michael Cooper / PA Images Michael Cooper / PA Images / PA Images

After a tumultuous Assembly election in March 2017, in which Sinn Féin made major gains, all eyes were on Arlene Foster to prove that the Democratic Unionist Party was still capable of remaining as the most powerful electoral force when Theresa May announced a general election in June. 

The result of that election left the DUP shaping the direction of British politics. And while the party is still smarting from Johnson’s decision to ignore the party’s concerns over his Brexit deal, the DUP still retains key influence in deciding which bills and motions survive their journey through a divided House of Commons. 

For that reason, expect more attention on the complex, contentious politics of Northern Ireland than ever before as the DUP faces a nearly unprecedented challenge in holding all of its 10 MPs. 

Current make-up of the parties

The DUP has 10 MPs, Sinn Féin has seven – though they don’t take their seats in the House of Commons. Both the SDLP and the Ulster Unionists had historically bad nights in 2017, ending up with no representation at Westminster. The only other MP from Northern Ireland is Independent unionist Lady Sylvia Hermon, who has spent recent days berating Johnson’s deal in parliament. 

What to look out for

Belfast South: A key battleground, it was won in 2017 by the DUP in a surprise victory for Emma Little Pengelly and represented a major defeat for the SDLP. This time around, the SDLP candidate Claire Hanna will be hoping to wrench the seat back with a passionate anti-Brexit message, while the Alliance Party – which has enjoyed a remarkable few months after success at the European elections – will also have hopes of making a strong showing in the constituency. 

Belfast North: DUP deputy leader Nigel Dodds faced a serious challenge from Sinn Féin at the last election, defeating John Finucane by only 2,000 votes – a victory aided by the Ulster Unionist Party standing aside in the constituency. This time, things could be different. The incoming Ulster Unionist Party leader Steve Aiken has said that that arrangement won’t happen again, creating a very difficult path to re-election for Dodds. It’s a move that triggered serious criticism in the unionist community, with growing pressure on Aiken to row back – so the odds may yet end up being back in Dodds’ favour. 

Alliance momentum: The Alliance Party has had a run of good form, with leader Naomi Long winning the third seat in the European Parliament election and strong returns from the local elections in May. But these successes may be cut short by a first–past-the-post electoral system, which makes it difficult for smaller parties to make inroads. Even if the party doesn’t win any seats, however, watch out for how many votes it gets – if it enjoys something of a minor surge it could be a good indication of a changing electoral landscape in the North. 

SDLP and UUP: Both parties will need to make gains to allay doubts about their long-term viability after a series of poor election results. The SDLP stands a good chance in Belfast South, but even then the pressure is on leader Colum Eastwood to deliver a good night for the party.

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    Mute Business Cat
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    Aug 27th 2014, 6:56 PM

    “If true, that’s not good.”

    Inspired subheading!

    Seriously though…. Russian forces are kicking Ukrainian ass these past few days.
    Russia opening up the a new front to the south by attacking Mariupol could be the game changer.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:41 PM

    The Russians are in Ukraine. No joking Sherlock

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:49 PM

    Well, from their total inaction, our political leaders clearly believe Putin when he says that there are no Russians there.

    How many more people have to die their violent, bloody deaths before somebody west of Kiev notices that Putin has brought war to Europe.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 11:08 PM

    The elephant in the room is the coup itself. The chocolate king and his backers surely cannot be trusted. Why would anybody put Ukraine at their disposal? Didn’t the Russians experience the same thing first hand with Yeltsin who handed over state assets to a variety of oligarchs (something they are still trying to reverse)

    There is also the issue, not unrelated , of people like Joe Biden’s son suddenly developing an interest in investing in Ukraine.

    And why would Russia be agreeable to the west extending its military capabilities to its border? We have seen in Israel how the whole arms market, and the Cold War/War on Terror that sustains it, is vital to USA business. I wouldn’t be too sure that the USA aren’t creating and exploiting a volatile situation in Ukraine (militarily and economically)

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    Aug 28th 2014, 2:07 PM

    @ Robin Hillard … Robin, there have always been Russians in Ukraine, it’s where Russia has it’s roots
    . ” How many more people have to die their violent, bloody deaths ” That sounds like a threat !
    No one, except a few neo Nazis, like yourself asked NATO to instigate a coup, it is up to America and NATO to stop murdering people. Why this interest in Russians helping their people in east Ukraine ? America and NATO have openly been helping an illegal coup regime that they installed with the intent of starting war with Russia, they are in no moral position to say anything about Russia or the freedom fighters.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:04 PM

    The Ukrainian army is a shambles. The New York Times are saying they have now been completely broken south of Donetsk and are fully retreating if not out right deserting. Only Right Sector and the Donbass battalion seem to be putting up a fight.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:09 PM

    Big time.

    A lot of units defected en masse to the rebel side in the early days.

    They can barely muster 30,000 currently.
    Many of these as you said, militias of dubious merit.

    In the south, what was up to this week, a rebel free area has been hammered by Russian armour & artillery.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:23 PM

    They need some Irish troops in there to keep the peace…..

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:09 PM

    Lots of Poles out there, mercenaries, haters of all things Russian.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 11:26 PM

    Yeah but mercenaries fight for the money, right? But if they are there because of traditional animosity among Poles towards Russia then it would at least sound more noble a cause.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 11:28 PM

    Most there out if good kid fashioned hatred of the red army, a few for money no doubt.

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    Aug 28th 2014, 2:10 PM

    @ Weslo .. Hopefully they will be caught, NATO mercenaries should never be allowed return home, they will be used again by NATO to start murder and genocide in some other unfortunate country.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:27 PM

    Oh, we know what this means, better watch out Vladimir, are you ready for………
    ECONOMIC SANCTIONS!!!

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:38 PM

    Its funny …the West is very quick to bring on sanctions on Valdmir Putin over false flag allegations.

    …but they are very slow to bring them on against ISIS….in fact its the opposite…. the West will let them thrive.

    http://www.syriadeeply.org/articles/2014/07/5856/isis-3-million-day-selling-oil-analysts/

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:09 PM

    This damned US soldiers are every where , they are in about 35 countries at the last count helping Juntas, dictators , military governments kings and despots to stay in power Oh ,sorry its Russian in Ukraine trying to help their fellow Russians that what this report is about

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    Aug 27th 2014, 9:28 PM

    Or israel

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    Aug 27th 2014, 9:57 PM

    Frank, on the contrary. There have been news articles saying that Assad allowed Isis to grow to fight against moderate rebels. Go read up on it.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:08 PM

    Oh Jesus Christ Declan, enough is enough from you, you clearly like to lick windows, all you do is come on here to insult and troll people, and when you actually try and be serious, it’s this semi ret@rded bullshit from the US state dept via the Cartoon News Network, please fuhk off.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:09 PM

    Ab, sanctions against IS, so we should stop buying their camels or fancy black flags ?

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    Aug 28th 2014, 12:30 AM

    Declan Noonan .. wouldn’t believe that.. Moderate Rebels, ISIS are all the one… US / CIA generated Christian murdering head hacking terrorist group with an agenda to fear monger and divide the middle east.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:28 PM

    Glen is a conspiracy expert anti American anti israel. Do us all a favour go and live with IS and don’t come back.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:32 PM

    Mick Madden … ISIS, America and Israel all share the same bed….You are hardly going to expect Glen to hop in with them..

    http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/06/isis-post-pr-photos-they-took-with-john-mccain/

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:32 PM

    Indeed, the all to common hypocrite.
    Railing against the west no matter how irrational.

    If only they would move to the lands they support so vehemently & leave this awful West to us decadent dogs.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:48 PM

    Anti-American ?

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:56 PM

    Business Cat …”would move to the lands they support so vehemently & leave this awful West to us decadent dogs”.

    The “West” will not be happy unless it takes over the whole world…

    # Greed, Oil, Warmongering, lies, Deception, terrorist supporting..

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:04 PM

    So Frank.

    You are leaving when?

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:13 PM

    Business Cat .. what’s the point in moving to these countries if the Yanks intend turning them all into wastelands once they are “liberated”.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:20 PM

    There are 192 to pick Frankie.

    Or are you just going to remain the angry hypocrite.

    Pyongyang is lovely in the Autumn…. Off you go!

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:30 PM

    Where did you pick that figure from?

    There is only a hand full of countries left in the world without a Rothschild central bank and these are the countries that the West (Zi0nist puppet nations) have a problem with… Most notably Syria, DPNK IRAN and Cuba.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:33 PM

    Choices… choices!

    What’s it going to be?

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:45 PM

    As I said before what’s the point of going to these key countries ie Iran, Syria and Russia most notably if America is going to soon carpet bomb the hell out of them.. Its only a matter of time before Obama drums up another false flag and excuse…. 9/11 all over again (More than likely 7/11 this time)

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:50 PM

    So you fantasise to pathetically cover your hypocrisy.

    At least your consistent in that.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 9:02 PM

    Business.. US Lieutenant General declares Defcon 1 Nuke threat imminent… brings up MH370 and even mentions September 7th… it could be the 9/11 part 2.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9fN0Nx4Zcs

    # Hint of False Flag.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 9:59 PM

    Frank, we all know that you and glen are in the same bed. Do you shine flashlights at each other under the sheets?

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    Aug 27th 2014, 9:59 PM

    Glen, yes you are.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:05 PM

    Frank, so you will only go to a country without banks ?
    Do you use a bank now? Have you ever thought about not using a bank?
    Ask your boss, if you have a job to pay you in cash only. If you are on unemployment assistance just remember that you get more money then in those countries you mentioned.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:12 PM

    Ab, I’m not sure if you are serious with your comments or its an extended april fools day gag. If you are serious then you do need urgent medical help

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:25 PM

    Unfortunately, Stephen, he is serious. He thinks numbers have magical properties. He needs help as soon as possible. His heart is in the right place, but his head is, well, f*cked….

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    Aug 27th 2014, 11:13 PM

    Nikola Tesla also had an obsession with certain numbers Brian, and tbh I find numerology a fascinating subject meself, as do many, you’ve got to admit, the dates and numbers all bear significance somehow, plenty of Masonic stuff involves numbers as well.

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    Aug 28th 2014, 12:25 AM

    Declan Noonan .. The Rothschild Central Banks would have us all micro chipped if they had the chance and that day is coming. .. only a matter of time before their poison infiltrates Iran, Syria, DPNK and Cuba.

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    Aug 28th 2014, 2:42 AM

    Frank,
    Conspiracy theories

    Over more than two centuries, the Rothschild family has frequently been the subject of conspiracy theories. These theories take differing forms, such as claiming that the family controls the world’s wealth and financial institutions, or encouraged or discouraged wars between governments. Discussing this and similar views, the historian Niall Ferguson wrote, “As we have seen, however, wars tended to hit the price of existing bonds by increasing the risk that a debtor state would fail to meet its interest payments in the event of defeat and losses of territory. By the middle of the 19th century, the Rothschilds had evolved from traders into fund managers, carefully tending to their own vast portfolio of government bonds. Now having made their money, they stood to lose more than they gained from conflict. The Rothschilds had decided the outcome of the Napoleonic Wars by putting their financial weight behind Britain. Now they would sit on the sidelines.Many conspiracy theories about the Rothschild family have been identified as a result of anti-Semitic prejudice reaching back several hundred years, including the era of the Napoleonic wars, and not as a result of valid evidence.

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    Aug 28th 2014, 2:39 PM

    @ Business Cat … I have a much better idea, why not have a regime change in the west ? Like the coup in Ukraine, or allow the people democracy, then you and all the business cats can go live in the country’s our CIA and NATO are destroying.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:06 PM

    The west ! Meaning OBAMA the biggest terrorist on the planet trying to start world war 3 .
    Because the dollar is about to collapse

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:20 PM

    And this video should help you to understand Dunners comment in detail
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4&list=TL-7I9mSAe5VuHAFfd26h0UROenixOQhR2

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:59 PM

    ISIS Exposed 100% As A CIA Operation: “The Next Bin Laden is Here” – Don’t Be Fooled

    http://www.pakalertpress.com/2014/08/27/video-isis-exposed-100-as-a-cia-operation-the-next-bin-laden-is-here-dont-be-fooled/

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:06 PM

    Hmmmm does this clip seem that crazy now eh? (Bar Lenin rising from the dead) http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ee465_copy-of-simpsons-soviet-union_fun

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    Aug 27th 2014, 6:56 PM

    It’s one thing for the west to make a claim.
    It’s another thing for them to back up the claim …… Talk is cheap Obama show the world the evidence before you drag us all closer to another world war.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 6:57 PM

    It’s true…Crimea is still Ukraine

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:02 PM

    This one must make the shortlist of “Glens most sh*t posts”.

    You, the Putinistas & RT are the only ones still denying the presence of Russian forces in Ukraine.

    Even the controlled Russian media are questioning the secret burials of soldiers bodies coming back from Ukraine.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:05 PM

    Business cat
    All I am asking for is proof !! Why is that do hard to provide ?

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:06 PM

    What proof do you need?

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:11 PM

    I think I outlined that in my opining comment

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:16 PM

    But you didn’t.

    We know for those with an agenda, no proof is good enough.

    Even the Kremlin say they have forces in Ukraine, they’ve admitted same since April.

    But to the unhinged, that in itself isn’t good enough

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:08 PM

    Oh glen, you are so gullible. I bet you believe in the tooth fairy.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:13 PM

    Why did you take a job with the Irish government if you hate the west so much? Why don’t you try living in an environment like Russia, or Iran?

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    Aug 28th 2014, 2:44 PM

    @ Glenn .. That’s asking too much of Barry O’Bananna, evidence ? He can’t even show his birth cert.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 7:05 PM

    We can say the very same about the West having its “troops” in Syria…

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/27/376783/photos-show-isil-executing-syrian-troops/

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:02 PM

    Listen to your Master Putinistas. Putin again insisted “It’s not our business, it’s Ukraine’s internal business.”

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:35 PM

    If Putin is not stopped, this war could become everybody’s business.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 11:18 PM

    What are we heading for here Robin? A police world state whereby we are all like the residents of Ferguson? And if we resist it we end up like the people of Gaza? Cop yourself on youngfella!

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    Aug 27th 2014, 11:42 PM

    Try resisting authority in Moscow and see where that gets you Joe! Horse whipped if you’re an ordinary JoeSoap, Polonium poisoning if you’re a political opponent.

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    Aug 28th 2014, 10:55 AM

    2 sides of the same coin Avina, I’m not one fooled by the East west paradigm, they’re both as bad as each other, only Russia doesn’t go to great lengths to hide it.

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    Aug 28th 2014, 2:42 PM

    @ Robin Hillard .. This war is everyone’s business, we have to stop NATO causing trouble in other country’s, we can start by supporting politicians like Putin and refusing to allow NATO to act as a protection racket.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:06 PM

    Why can’t the rebels have their own country ? Of course they can’t bring the country in the Russian territory tile that in the terms and have conditions. I can’t see why they won’t give them it, if they want peace let them away you’ll spare a lot of lives on both sides

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:11 PM

    The Rebels do have their own country.
    It’s called Russia.

    The bodies of their forces fighting there are gathering in number & the Kremlin is having a hard time keeping it under wraps.

    http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28949582

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:29 PM

    They can all move to Russia. You know, where most of them are from anyways.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:31 PM

    What about Odessa ?

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:34 PM

    What about it?

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:38 PM

    Why were pro Russians burnt alive, why was there a pregnant woman choked to death and there is even videos showing pro Ukraine troops shooting those who tired escape, if you think I’m lying you can find the videos with ease why didn’t make news here ? Oh if you think it was the pro Russians then why would they have blue and yellow around them

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:43 PM

    You must be new here..

    The Odessa tragedy received extensive coverage.

    Odessa has been quiet since thankfully.

    We know that the bulk of the pro-Russian forces in the city that day were shipped in from Transdniestria in Moldova.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:46 PM

    Loyal the Stars and Stripes won’t get you anywhere. We are neutral so must respect both sides

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:54 PM

    You don’t appear neutral?
    Why not?

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:57 PM

    I want peace in the region, give them a separate country, in return they won’t suffer come winter and allow Ukraine to be western back so be

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    Aug 27th 2014, 9:04 PM

    Who are “them”?

    Hundreds of Russian FSB & Spetnaz agents leading old communist locals is not the thing of nations.

    You, I’m sure know that there has never been a political mandate in eastern Ukraine to join Russia.

    You will also know that there has never been so much as an opinion poll showing majority support for joining Russia.

    I’m sure you know no eastern oblast is close to being majority ethnic Russian.

    Unless you have teenager level naievity, you will know that surrendering a landmass bigger than Ireland to Russian special forces solves nothing.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 9:05 PM

    Communism or fascism, oh btw Russia was socialist not communist.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 9:14 PM

    Nearly there kiddo.

    You’ll get something right eventually.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union

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    Aug 27th 2014, 9:16 PM

    And America was the land of the free I suppose ?

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    Aug 27th 2014, 9:21 PM

    What has that got to do with the Russian Communist party?

    Your stretching to score a point here Steve…… Its not going well.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 9:24 PM

    I honestly just don’t support a country with a system like the NDAA. But you’re just some guy or girl pretending the be a cat. You don’t understand anything other than food or sleep.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 9:26 PM

    I am a cat.
    A grey English shorthair with a penchant for sharp suits.

    A cat who never tires of teaching kids who think they know the world the facts of life….. and I’m only six years old!

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    Aug 27th 2014, 9:28 PM

    No you’re pretending to be a cat

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:14 PM

    Stephen, how old are you ?

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:17 PM

    How old are you ?

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    Aug 27th 2014, 11:19 PM

    Don’t bother with the grumpy aul shite Young Ennis, he’s got issues.

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    Aug 28th 2014, 2:50 PM

    @ Sean O Brian.. Russia began in Kiev, Ukraine should be returned to Russia, many Ukrainians want a free bite of the American dream, let them go there. Peace on Russia’s border is good for the world and loosing a bunch of free loaders is no loss to anyone.

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    Aug 27th 2014, 8:33 PM

    You all realise the Ukraine army are even considering turn back and heading for Kiev the situation ain’t simple

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:09 PM

    Russia is now sending its SECOND large food convoy to Eastern Ukraine..

    Its kind of ironic.. The US sends arms and finance to terrorists and countries like Israel to carry out genocide but Russia is the country ending up getting all the sanctions.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/27/376778/russia-to-send-2nd-aid-convoy-to-ukraine/

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    Aug 27th 2014, 11:43 PM

    I wonder if this one will be 80% empty as well…

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    Aug 27th 2014, 11:46 PM

    Btw, funny how the bodies of dead Russian troops started to show up in Russia (after suffering “heart attacks” apparently) shortly after the last convoy left Ukraine…

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    Aug 28th 2014, 2:46 PM

    @ Avina Laaf, some evidence of this please, or are you just apeing the usual NATO propaganda again.

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    Aug 28th 2014, 3:29 PM

    This is just one link of dozens from a simple google search Chris – I’m sure you could have done it yourself:
    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/mothers-pressure-russia/1334610.html

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    Aug 28th 2014, 3:31 PM

    Keep trying though.

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    Aug 29th 2014, 7:03 PM

    @ Lavina Laaf … Yes I could have, and chosen a better link, what do you want me to do, send you a link about Ukraine mothers protesting the war ? I’ll pass.
    Anyway, Porky has been told autonomy is not on the table anymore, only independence for the east now. Americas and Israel’s new colony is dead in the water, WW 3 averted thanks to Putin, no wonder the west hates himI do think of all the American, Polish and Lithuanian mothers that don’t even know where there sons ar, but that’s war !

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    Aug 27th 2014, 10:35 PM

    More US lies

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    Aug 28th 2014, 5:51 PM

    ok we can all agree that a conflict between nato forces and russian forces could spill out of this, there are many other elements of this armchair warriors across the land can fight over.
    remember back at the fine gael ard fheis our fearless leader enda kenny wanted us to join nato. http://www.thejournal.ie/fine-gael-ard-fheis-motions-1336230-Feb2014/
    this would end our neutrality and make us a target for a nuclear armed country. like the puppet on a string he is kenny will try again.
    this is an area that can be addressed and discussed here with some changes either way. make noise annoy your local td with your views.

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