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British chancellor George Osborne leaves the BBC's Millbank Studios this morning after revealing that the UK had offered Ireland a £7bn loan. Tim Ireland/PA Wire

UK and Sweden offer over €9bn in bailout loans

George Osborne says the UK is ready to offer ‘around’ £7bn, while Sweden is ready to pledge $1.5bn, in bilateral aid.

THE FINANCE MINISTERS of some of Europe’s leading non-Eurozone economies have said they are ready to offer Ireland bilateral loans of over €9bn between them, in order to further assist Ireland’s management of its banking sector.

Britain’s Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, this morning told BBC Radio 4′s Today programme that the UK had “made a commitment to consider a bilateral loan that reflects the fact we are not part of the euro and don’t want to be part of the euro.

“Ireland is our very closest economic neighbour. I judged it to be in our national interest to be part of the international efforts to help the Irish,” he  told presenter Evan Davis.

Asked to confirm media speculation from last night that the UK’s potential loan could be to the tune of £7 billion (€8.18bn), Osborne amount would be “around that”, adding:

It’s in the billions, not the tens of billions. But the details of the entire package – not just the UK contribution, but the Eurozone contribution, the IMF contribution, is being worked out as we speak. We should, at the end of the month, have the details on that. [...]

Ireland is a friend in need, and we’re here to help.

Listen to Osborne discuss the Irish situation >

Osborne refused to indicate what kind of interest rate might be charged as part of the loan, but said it would be quite close to the rate being charged of Ireland to draw down funds from the EU and IMF contingency package.

Britain’s move was also geared to manage the exposure of British banks to Irish liabilities, Osborne added; the fact that Bank of Ireland issued sterling notes in Northern Ireland was proof of how intertwined the two economies were.

More Eurosceptic members of the Conservative Party, however, have told the Daily Telegraph they fear the government is becoming embroiled in a situation that could become more and more expensive.

Sweden, meanwhile, has also said it was willing to offer up to €1.1bn in a bilateral loan of its own, with a prospective interest rate of 3%.

The country’s finance minister Anders Borg told radio in his own country that a loan between 5 and 10 billion Swedish crowns was being considered, though such a loan would need to win the support of parliament.

The amount, he said, would similar to loans given to Iceland and Latvia on previous instances. Sweden joined with Denmark, Norway and Finland in providing a €1.8bn loan to Iceland when it suffered its own banking crisis.

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    Mute John Johnson
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:13 PM

    Id rather throw my money in the liffy than to donate it to Rehab.

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    Mute Montys Moonshine
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:44 PM

    Or any charity at this stage. They seem to have all been on the take all in the name of “charity”

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    Mute John Johnson
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:51 PM

    In fairness Monty you cant tar them all with the same brush.

    There are some transparent charities out there and as all as they publish everything and I mean everything I would consider donating to tjem.

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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:38 PM

    One is murkier than the other..

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    Jan 24th 2014, 7:14 PM

    Correct me if I’m wrong but I think Fergus Finlay is doing a good job for Barnardos ?

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    Mute michael conlon
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    Jan 24th 2014, 8:32 PM

    Name 1 that Is straight there Is nothing straight In this rouges Paradise ,

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    Mute Miss Filed
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    Jan 25th 2014, 2:19 PM

    Those who say all charities are overspending on salaries need to think again. Remember that many charities are filling gaps in vital services that the government should be providing – and they are doing it with a combination of volunteers and paid staff. They all have financial records and we can make it our business to look at them. I agree charities should reveal the salaries of any staff paid over x amount. However, I work for a charity (not one that takes public donations) and staff are all low paid and have taken very substantial successive pay cuts in the last three years – no Croke Park agreement for us!!! Believe it or not we are all committed to the work and understand that with funding cuts staff pay has to be cut. I believe that many small and medium charities are the same…

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    Mute johngahan
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:49 PM

    simple rule: don’t contribute to a charity whose CEO gives you the proverbial finger when you ask their salary.

    It’s not just the CEO, but also her enormous army of senior management on 100k+ each that we need to see the numbers for.

    Who does she think she is?

    John Tierney?

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    Mute Kate Ellen Egan
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    Jan 24th 2014, 10:29 PM

    Million euro baby ….

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    Mute Michael Farrelly
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:23 PM

    What does Angela Kerins and the rehab board think they are achieving by not disclosing her salary ?
    The public put massive funds into this organisation both voluntarily and through tax.

    Do they not think the the public have a right to know how THEIR money is being spent ?

    Until all public funded charities managers declare their incomes I for one will not donate to them and do not want my tax money going there either

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    Mute Lar Cooney
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    Jan 24th 2014, 5:19 PM

    The shredder is broken and they are scared to put a new one on expenses. The eye is firmly on there asses.

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    Mute Gerry Ryan deG
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    Jan 24th 2014, 5:36 PM

    Brass Neck employee meets Pretend Director = Mayhem. Entitlement meets Taxpayers money = Riches.

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    Mute Leslie Alan Rock
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:40 PM

    What amazes me is that, through all this she doesn’t care. Her job is to better rehab, but all she’s doing it, is harm. But she doesn’t care. The brass neck

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    Mute Danny Southgate
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:22 PM

    Watch this space, that friendly €5 bet we had last week lets go again, I believe at the moment they are working out Angela’s departure package which will be announced the week that they are due before the PAC,

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    Mute Leslie Alan Rock
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    Jan 24th 2014, 7:47 PM

    I reckon you’re spot on Danny

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    Mute Kate Ellen Egan
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    Jan 24th 2014, 10:37 PM

    Love to unearth the hard drives and see the rest of the skulduggery in these minted charities ….the stuff PAC haven’t even thought of. The thing common to the elites in this ‘Republic’ is that they are all untouchable because of their relationships with the big political parties ….

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    Mute Danny Southgate
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    Jan 24th 2014, 10:49 PM

    Why do you think they are buying time before they appear before the PAC , everything will be gone and Angie will be gone with a lump sump tax free package

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    Mute I love my County
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:16 PM

    Not necessarily…. I won’t be sponsoring any charities ever again, irregardless of when they decide to disclose this information – i’ll be supporting local causes such as community groups and sports organisations from here on, where EVERYBODY IS A VOLUNTEER!!!!

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    Mute Sam Rhodes
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:27 PM

    Nobody can run large scale charities on an entirely voluntary basis. Many charities need some level of salaried administration or nothing would ever get done. Some charities need to be way more transparent about where the money goes and that should be demanded of them but it’s nonsensical to brand the entire charity sector as rotten because of a couple of bad apples. If you want to know where your money is going ask, demand transparancy, if you don’t get it, go elsewhere. And I say all this as someone who helps run a community group on no salary.

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    Mute Seán Gallagher
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:32 PM

    While I understand your reasoning and respect that you and many others are rightfully outraged.

    Having been involved with charities (and one in particular) for a number of years in various guises, I don’t think tarring them all with the same brush is the answer. Volunteerism is awesome and that’s something that sadly I don’t think we have enough of here. But even sports organisations (say the GAA etc.) have paid employees.

    For instance, Foroige which is a youth development organisation which could be commonly seen as a local, community youth group has an office with paid staff despite being a charity… This is one example of course, but having people to tick boxes, man phones, change the toner, etc. are definitely needed. Charities with paid staff supporting volunteers – much better than without the staff.

    That being said, what’s going on with Rehab is an example of when things really go wrong.

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    Mute Dave Doyle
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:40 PM

    Though what you say may be correct to some extent, public anger has gone far beyond understanding. There are to many examples of the gravy train syndrome coming to light now. It seems to be a free for all at the top of the dungheap, while those of us at the bottom have to pay the piper without having any right to call the tune. Any public body, charity, or institution that’s in receipt of public funds or donations HAVE to be totally transparent. No ifs or buts.

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    Mute Seán Gallagher
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:48 PM

    Agree 100%

    But I don’t think that a sweeping statement like “never sponsor a charity again” while saying you would donate to “local causes such as community groups and sports organisations” helps, especially when a lot of those bodies are supported by professional staff, be it privately or in local government.

    Charities work, as do paid employees, but only when as you said it’s transparent and fair.

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    Mute I love my County
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:50 PM

    @Sean & @Sam, agree with you both regarding the purpose and need of paid employees in large charities. My point is this, I’d rather give locally to fully Volunteer run organisations from here on for my own peace of mind. I feel bad for the good people in this world who give their all for such great causes only to now be tarnished by these greedy Exec’s attitudes…

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    Mute Eamonn Burns
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:50 PM

    let the government pay for it

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    Mute Harry Webb
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:52 PM

    Sam,
    Surely it is the charities role to disclose how it spends it’s money. Why should the donors have to do the detective work?

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    Mute Lyndall O'brien
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:54 PM

    i have tried with st vincent de paul – an organisation i used to think were marvellous. no answer.

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    Mute Sam Rhodes
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:20 PM

    Yes it is and any charity worth their while should have their annual report available for all to see. If they don’t you can ask why not, especially when they are receiving public money. Charities are being lumped in together at the moment when they are not all alike. I got a phonecall last week from the Red Cross explaining where my donation to the Philippines campaign went, that’s fantastic but smaller scale charities simply don’t have the resources to do that. The charity sector has been arguing for regulation for ages, it’s only coming down the line now. Until recently there were no guidelines, even voluntarily, on how they should be run. Regulation can’t come quick enough, at least it should restore some confidence in those who are doing good work and doing it right.

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    Mute Seán Gallagher
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:30 PM

    Agree again ILMC,

    But charity doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s a big shady multinational with people wearing bibs asking you to give them your bank details.

    Have a look at the Irish Charities Register… All I was getting at is that local charities are (in many cases) supported by national offices.

    Lot of em are still worthy of your attention and support, have a look at them here:
    http://www.revenue.ie/en/about/publications/charities_alpha.pdf

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    Mute Kate Ellen Egan
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    Jan 24th 2014, 10:58 PM

    Fth Peter McVerry and Father Kevin get €450,000 a year from the state and no CEO salaries,cars foreign travel or pensions , the rest get €3.8 billion between them ,with CEO ‘s on €120,000 minimum a yr,perks and pensions,foreign travel, luxury hotels ,top of the range cars and free parking ,rubbing shoulders with the elites……€3.8 billion is a lot of gravy and is the amount taken out of the economy from the rest of us each year in the last 5 to fund these gifted CEO’s , no cuts for these big boys and girls !!

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    Mute Michael G O'Reilly
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:03 PM

    Wait for it …Kearns will now want to resign…..on a huge pension …..protected by a contract !

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    Mute Niamh Murphy
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    Jan 25th 2014, 11:38 AM

    a month is a nice long time for all that to be sorted out too, very thoughtful friend you are to her enda!

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    Mute Pete Foley
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:17 PM

    €400.000 + is my guess

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    Mute statusireland
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:37 PM

    I see your €400k and raise you an annual bonus of €100k and a pension contribution of €100k per annum.

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    Mute Francis Gorman
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:44 PM

    I throw in health insurance travel allowance and a ridiculous amount of paid annual leave.

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    Mute Johnner!
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:46 PM

    They don’t get travel allowance…. They get nice cars!

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    Mute Danny Southgate
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:20 PM

    Plus the A8

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    Mute Nelly Pender
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:37 PM

    Methinks there is something rotten in the state of Rehab. For their chairman to say that her wage scale is nobody’s business but Rehabs just shows the arrogance of many of these executives of State funded charities.

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    Mute Cillian_Durkin
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:31 PM

    She has operated in and built relationships with members of FF at the highest level for 20 years.

    What does she have to fear or plan that they will not already take care of.

    When you are in this thing of theirs, it is about looking after everyone in trouble, cause one day it might be you that needs it.

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    Mute Bernard Gallagher
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:23 PM

    Good old Ireland, conned by the government, religion and now charity’s, a nation of saints more like a nation of thieves and con artists.

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    Mute Cillian_Durkin
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    Jan 24th 2014, 6:09 PM

    A nation of very trusting people who were brought up to believe that the boss and the priest and “respectable people” know best.

    Also the Govt. for so long here was the enemy and whip hand, robbing the people for others far away.

    So there was a patriotic duty to shaft them, that mentality of hundreds of years is hard to turn off overnight, impossible in fact.

    Sadly it is something that every post colonial country goes through and takes 2 generations to flush out.

    Some very interesting research and pieces done on this.

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    Mute IrishGravyTrain
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:18 PM

    The gravy is very thick with this one. Feel the force. Taste the gravy.

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    Mute Sluggermctugger
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:16 PM

    She was on €234, 000 in 2011 not incuding benefits ( health insurance, car, bonus,etc.). So 3 years later her package is likely to be considerably more. Another pig with her nose in the taxpayers trough

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    Mute Stephen Griffith
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:51 PM

    If they don’t have to declare .. then we don’t have to fund them.

    Problem goes away very quickly.

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    Mute Crocodylus Pontifex
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:57 PM

    Anyone any idea on an easy way to stop a Direct Debit into Rehab?

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    Mute Stephen Griffith
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:02 PM

    You could call your bank and ask them to stop it immediately.

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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:04 PM

    Can’t find an online way; accursed human interaction. I only signed up so I wouldn’t have to speak to person who called to my door.

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    Mute Michael G O'Reilly
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:07 PM

    Write to your bank and instruct them to stop the direct debit …..simples !

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    Mute Kate Ellen Egan
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    Jan 24th 2014, 10:39 PM

    Tell your bank Crocodylys, hey presto no more direct debits !! Easy

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    Mute Seamus O'Conner
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:28 PM

    Look at the fat bitc* laughing at us all because she earns 400k a year. Enda should order her to tell us her salary, but he won’t because he is a coward.

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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:12 PM

    the salary must be embarrasingly vulgar. Wouldn’t they just publish it if it wasn’t. Everyday they continue the secrecy is a day wasted if they ever hope to wipe the slate and regain any semblance of trust. Sure then again the suits at the top don’t give a f**k

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    Mute Dave cullen
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:42 PM

    Angela kerins has caused so much misery for those poor people who depended on that money. Shes a by product of our disasterous government’s mismanagement of our country. Stand up for once kenny and try get some degree of respect from the people of this country.rotten to the core everywhere and needs change now.

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    Mute Alcho Holic
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:15 PM

    What a kick in the teeth,to those people that work on the coal face,unwaged and actually save lives.This Country is worse than the DTs

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    Mute John Flood
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:31 PM

    What is the government waiting for? The Charities Act 2009 sits without being implemented. This act requires full and public financial disclosure annually for ALL charities. Where is it????

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    Mute Dwayne Dentan
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:46 PM

    The Charities act was set up to appease public opinion and fear of corruption in order to facilitate corruption.

    Isn’t that clear to the people by now.

    This gravy train has been on track for years. It’s gonna take more than a few directors leaving their positions with disgusting pensions to bring it to a stop.

    The entire system is corrupt.

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    Mute Sam Aritan
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:25 PM

    It’s up to individual charities to prove themselves all over gain. It’s unfortunate. However it may give more opportunity to small, more local charities. I stopped my direct debit to concern a few years back and switched to a small home based animal refuge centre.

    I was glad I did as I didn’t feel ripped off after the latest scandals.

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    Mute David Barr
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:02 PM

    This (woman) needs to wise up, imagine what her kids are going through now, and what they will go through when she fessis up.

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    Mute Betty Bestie
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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:26 PM

    Bloated.

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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:05 PM

    Charities no thanks charity begins at
    Home yes my home end off

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    Mute Helen Kenny
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:40 PM

    What people forget its not just donations paying for her big fat salary but the men and women in so called workshops for a pittance

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    Jan 24th 2014, 6:37 PM

    I’m dying to see her credit card bill too!

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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:42 PM

    All charities should be scrutinised to the
    hilt . Especially ones that receive vast amounts of money from the HSE . Sisters of charity have been the recipients of vast amounts . 95m euro for one branch of that catholic organisation in one year alone . I wonder if any gets siphoned off to the Vatican. I also wonder why a state body is making donations to a religious body that has a history of child abuse .

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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:48 PM

    I think the fudamental proplem is the use of the word “charity” beside these organisations…they shouldnt be aloud to use the term instead,it should “corporation”organisation”..or such…thats what they really are..

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    Mute Cameron Mckeever
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    Jan 24th 2014, 6:09 PM

    Only reason she won’t reveal her salary is she’s clearly ashamed or embarrassed at it. If she works hard and earns a good salary she should be proud to say yes I earn every cent of this….

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    Mute john kinsella
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    Jan 24th 2014, 6:33 PM

    A lot of hard work for rehab accountant to tally up three years accounts in one month. It’ll still show she is a greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy women. I could have kept going.

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    Mute Dwayne Dentan
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    Jan 24th 2014, 4:41 PM

    Another day and another media story about how disgusted to feel with the entire system.

    Who’s leading the charge to bring sort this mess out ?
    Who’s name was mentioned today as our hero ?

    I can see media outlets running with this story so I recognise that these stories are being put in the public domain for a reason. Not for our own good because remember that the media lies to you every day to control the capitalist and political grip on this country.

    Will Denis O’Brien be championed for setting his media monster on the corrupt groups running this country ?
    Who will come out on top after the M23 election and then the General Election ?

    The future is being moulded by these corrupt and hateful politicians and capitalists.

    Be careful of who you’re told to vote for. The one who will come out as the ‘good guy’ in all of this.

    TheJournal.ie.

    Why did you remove my comment from the article where Denis O’Brien said that politicians were the biggest problem in the economy ? It was in no way illegal.
    Also comments are now closed on it.
    Kind regards.
    D.

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    Mute Daniel O Farrell
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    Jan 24th 2014, 10:27 PM

    Country full of shi.ebags who only care about making themselves richer

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    Mute Anna Farrelly
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    Jan 24th 2014, 6:08 PM

    Sick and disheartened by Kerins,delaying disclosure of her salary is so selfish,it’s only compounding the problem and spreading mistrust . This all show’s there needs to a new role model of doing things all above board,not all C.E.O.’s climbing on board the train. Wonder are there any Corporate/Philanthrirpers out there willing to boost the morale of the staff and people who use these services by organising something..? Doesn’t the Revenue give tax allowance for this to Corporates? Restore faith and community spirit,and possibly real jobs for unemployed people

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    Mute Pete Byrne
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    Jan 24th 2014, 7:14 PM

    I thought Michelle, that about a year ago the journal posted a article about charities and their CEO incomes & benefits.
    As for Rehab the salerly was €234,000
    Plus on two other boards, one paying €9,000. It was posted not long after rehab in Galway had lay offs.
    Maybe I’m just dreaming!
    Can you clarify?

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    Mute Michael Garett
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    Jan 24th 2014, 11:57 PM

    Dont forget the contract Rehab was awarded recently in the Middle East worth 3.4 million. Charities taking up contracts are not charities. All board members should be cleared out after 3 years. Familiarity breeds contempt. Fergus Finlay on tv3 today earning 111k. And people think hes a safe pair of hands. I don’t think so.

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    Jan 24th 2014, 7:34 PM

    There are alternatives…”In the grand tradition of “jantelag”, where no-one is better than anyone else, Sweden, Norway and Finland publish everyone’s income and tax details, every year.” “But for Scandinavia’s political leaders, though, it seems the wealth and wellbeing of everyone is more important than the risk of a bit of gossip.” http://www.channel4.com/news/taxes-are-an-open-secret-in-scandinavia

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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:38 PM

    Angela Your a slate of the roof?think about it. Lost in the ethos maybe !or like time? 400.000 a year?, you deliver Chinese at night maybe?or sheep rustling, is it economically viable. you love the wool between your legs! Its white matter you use up top. Called white tracks?not the grey. Did you Finnish school?or straight to the PS? Straight up. Sucked into an endless state of vegetation. You bore me muse. Another stat! Number!thoughtless, nearly forgot!enjoy!. And Wheres My butter.x

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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:46 PM

    You obviously haven’t got that help then??

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    Jan 24th 2014, 3:53 PM

    Monty! Muse! you know the old chestnut? God love,s a tryer. its defo survival of the fittest, and not muscle … Your mental survival , easy to sink into an abyss .. a dark place where you dont want to go… scary place.. thats why try ! not to fear , fear. if you can crack that! your on your way… you will win. And i hope you do ? we all got our own demons… i know mine – do u know yours? reflection before deflection muse!

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    Jan 24th 2014, 8:52 PM

    Seriously? What are you like? It ISN’T art. Need to get a new muse… Terpsichore, perhaps?

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    Jan 25th 2014, 2:13 PM

    Every day they don’t reveal her salary causes dreadful damage to charities??? What a moronic statement? I guess most of us who can afford anything at all will support one or two charities. Why would you stop that because of scandals about the salaries of some in a handful of charities? Unless you are looking for an excuse to stop supporting your charity – in which case, you could make this into your excuse!!!

    I personally feel capable of waiting a week or whatever it is to hear this woman’s salary. I am aware of brilliant amazing RehabCare staff in my own area who do amazing work and I am quite sure they are not overpaid.

    The pressure for all charities to be transparent about how they spend their money is long overdue and high salaries at the top, where they do exist, absolutely must end. However, these issues, like everything among an enraged and powerless populace, seem to end up as an opportunity for people simply to vent their spleen and anger. Whatever charities you support ask them how they spend their money if you are concerned – but don’t expect any reasonable size organisation to operate only with volunteers and not paid staff, because that just doesn’t work.

    So if you are giving to a charity or two, consider the consequences for the people who benefit from the charity’s work of donors en masse suddenly cutting off their giving. Find out from the charity you support how they spend their money, and be reasonable. Otherwise the result will be real suffering for people who need many of these services – services that exist to fill huge gaps in what should be government-funded services…

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    Jan 24th 2014, 8:30 PM

    Very ambiguous title to this story. I will move on to the next…

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    Feb 16th 2014, 2:36 PM

    I bet she has no penalty points on her licence either. If there were any they are not there now.

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