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Senator Lorraine Clifford-Lee Sam Boal via RollingNews.ie

'Hiding isn't going to make it go away': Fine Gael Ministers call on Clifford-Lee to apologise over social media comments

Lorraine Clifford-Lee has come under fire in recent days over controversial tweets she posted in the past.

LAST UPDATE | 12 Nov 2019

MINISTER FOR EMPLOYMENT Affairs and Social Protection Regina Doherty has said embattled Fianna Fáil Senator Lorraine Clifford-Lee should “come out head-on and admit she made a mistake” over controversial statements made on social media. 

Clifford-Lee has come under fire in recent days over tweets she sent in the past in which she used the words “Traveller” and “knacker” in a derogatory manner. 

A number of the tweets referred to Travellers, with one reading: “I think some pieces are cute but others look like something from a Traveller wedding.” 

Another tweet from July 2011 read: “Just doing up inventory of items in my car when it was stolen by some knacker. I think I’m going to cry.” 

A tweet from September 2011 said: “Was on #dublinbus for the 1st time in about a yr yesterday. Forgotten how much fun it is. A black Brazilian dwarf with ginger hair sat beside me.” 

Speaking today, Doherty said “hiding away is not going to make the situation go away” and that Clifford-Lee should apologise. 

Doherty’s comments were echoed by Minister for Education and Skills Joe McHugh who said this afternoon that Clifford-Lee used social media “as a weapon”. 

Said McHugh: “There’s a wide debate going on around how social media is handled. We constantly focus on young people and the younger generation but [social media] is not the preserve of younger people. 

“Social media can be used as a weapon and in this instance it was used as a weapon and it’s totally inappropriate.” 

Earlier today, Fianna Fáil’s Justice spokesperson Jim O’Callaghan said it would be “beneficial” for Clifford-Lee to meet with Pavee Point over the controversial comments she made about Travellers. 

Senator Clifford-Lee is a solicitor by profession and is the Deputy Leader of Fianna Fáil in the Seanad. She’s also the party’s Seanad spokesperson on Justice, Children and Youth Affairs. 

Clifford-Lee apologised yesterday for the tweets, stating: “The tweets referred to are from as far back as 2011 and were tweeted long before I became involved in electoral politics. 

I want to be absolutely clear, the tweets were wrong and I apologise for any hurt or offence caused by them. 

“Anyone who has worked with me since my election to the Seanad three years ago can confirm the role I played in promoting progressive politics. I also actively supported the marriage equality referendum and the campaign to repeal the Eighth Amendment,” she said.

Speaking to reporters today, O’Callaghan said it would be “beneficial” for Clifford-Lee to meet with Pavee Point, a Traveller support organisation. 

O’Callaghan said the Senator has “a task ahead of her” to “build bridges” with people, such as Pavee Point. 

He said that her tweets were “inappropriate” and “offensive, particularly to the Travelling people”. 

However, O’Callaghan said he doesn’t believe they reflect her “current thinking”. 

The Irish Times reported today that Pavee Point co-director Martin Collins said Clifford-Lee should not be “in public office”. 

When asked about Collins’ comments, O’Callaghan said: “I take on board very seriously what Martin Collins said and I agree with him that the comments she made displayed prejudice towards Travellers and were discriminatory. 

“However, she made those comments six, seven years ago. I know I believe in redemption, I believe in change … she’s apologised for them, she’s said they were wrong. 

I would just be concerned if because of something inappropriate that somebody said seven or eight years ago that their political career would end. 

In her statement yesterday, Clifford-Lee said that she hopes that the people of Dublin Fingal “will not be distracted” by what she called “personal smear campaigns such as this”.

She also said that the tweets were “taken out of context”.

“I want to be a TD for the people of Dublin Fingal as I know the very real issues that people face every day,” she said. 

“I want this campaign to concentrate on solutions in transport, housing, health, childcare, climate change and protecting our communities from crime.”

Pavee Point and Lorraine Clifford-Lee have been contacted for comment. 

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    Mute SEAN LYNCH
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    Aug 2nd 2014, 6:47 PM

    Driver looks non too happy to be on that shift.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 6:58 PM

    She is probably thinking that the mask she purchased from Woodies DIY isn’t going to be much good!

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 6:46 PM

    One reason an island is a bonus, nasty thing to get!

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:01 PM

    Unless they stopped in Shannon to refuel

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:08 PM

    Britain is an island too, with an unprecedented number of direct air connections to the outbreak zones in West Africa. Given the number of people transiting to Ireland via the UK, Ireland’s geography as an island means nothing.

    We are utterly dependent on the UK to put in place measures to prevent its spread to this part of the World.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:23 PM

    Infection with Ebola requires direct contact with the boldly fluids (blood, semen, vomit etc) of an infected person, that’s how it spreads, it’s not airborne and you don’t breathe it in as droplets like the flu.

    If we heard in the morning that there were 3 Ebola cases in St Vincents Hospital there would not be much cause for alarm, they’d just be moved to an isolation unit.
    The only danger is in it mutating into something that is more easily transmitted.
    Even in that worst case scenario, where the movie outbreak or the novel executive orders happened there would be a few simple measures we could take to shut it down:
    -Declare a state of national emergency
    -Close the ports and airports and get the UK govt to do the same to the ones in NI
    -Have the Taoiseach announce that 6 hours from the state of emergency’s beginning all places of assembly (schools, shopping centers etc) would be shut down, all intercity road and rail travel would be terminated, a curfew would be in place for all nonessentials, and all congregations of more than 2 persons will be unlawful.
    -Enforce the curfew and travel bans with the army, army reserve and Garda.
    That would give people enough time to grab some groceries and get home.

    We would do ok. My only concern in this kinda scenario is the lack of adequate CBRN gear for our first responders, civil defense and military. We could get those quick enough though.
    We would not be alone either, we’d have help from WHO and even the CDC in the US if we asked.

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    Mute Ciara Ryan
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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:58 PM

    Not when you have mass immigration or open borders. Defeats island defence.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 8:07 PM

    What exactly do you define as ”MASS” immigration, I’ve been hearing that for years but I’ve never heard anyone define it.
    The immigration in the EU goes both ways, plenty of our citizens go to France, UK, Cyprus etc

    The point remains however, it’s a simple matter to close down that flow of people in an emergency. Germany for example can officially ”’close” it’s borders but it will still be porus because even with patrols there won’t be a wall around it.
    However if we close our ports and airports on the island the only way for people to get in or out is by personal boats and thats easier said than done for the smaller craft, and the bigger ones are easily spotted and intercepted by the navy.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 8:24 PM

    @Ryan

    Tell me did we have the same amounts of immigrants before mass immigration?

    No we had a very small trickle and had secure borders, the difference in type of influx and numbers we have now and what we had then is a defining characteristic of mass immigration, one where the island retains it’s ancestral, indigenous demographic, culture and heritage.

    Western Europeans do not go to each others countries in vast quantities that change the identity of the country, also we are same/similar in ancestral and cultural make-up, this is incomparable to Africans and asians coming here.

    Your idea that closing ports keeps people out is naive in the extreme, and thus dangerous. Illegals have been coming to Ireland via the north since mass immigration began.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 9:04 PM

    You’re not explaining what mass immigration is, so I can’t say what it was like before or after it.

    You’re not saying what ”then” was.

    So unless you’re willing to define these things, I’m not responding to you. I don’t argue with vague emotional rhetoric, get specific

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 9:43 PM

    @Ryan

    I actually have given you a working definition of that word.

    But with or without such a definition one can still describe what the situation was like before and after a time when there was ongoing immigration from the time it occurred to before the time it occurred sometime around the 90′s.

    For example before this time, there were next to none Africans coming here. Yet you somehow are unable to include that in any description you might give as to how it was before such a time.

    Hello troll.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 6:47 PM

    Not very Christian of Mr trump

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:10 PM

    My thoughts exactly. But then, this is one of the few things that all his wealth wouldn’t protect him from…

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:40 PM

    It’s harsh but he’s right. Why transport the virus back to the US or anywhere else. Keep it contained where it is.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:08 PM

    I hope both of these patients can fight this terrible virus and wish them well. They were doing a selfless job helping so many. They deserve to be home near their families.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:15 PM

    One word – ‘isolation’
    Might be near their families but still can’t see them!

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:39 PM

    I know!

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 6:53 PM

    I’m sure America has kept the Ebola virus in a high security laboratory for decades. Probably since the first know outbreak. You know to study it and maybe even see if it could be made into a biological weapon.

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    Aug 3rd 2014, 1:38 AM

    Don’t be ridiculous. It’s a horrific virus. You think a little more of Americans.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 6:57 PM

    SARS was 11 years ago ? Christ.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 6:58 PM

    This is panic inducing and rightly so. It shows how these dystopian fictions aren’t so far fetched. You don’t want to catch this one.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 6:56 PM

    Why the hell would you bring this virus into your country, surely they could of brought the best care to the 2 unfortunate people instead of them being brought back. Somethings not right.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:12 PM

    Peopke are just not understanding ebola transmission. Its as hard to transmitt as hiv

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:13 PM

    West Africa as a region lacks the critical clinical equipment and personnel to provide to best care. Why would you treat somebody with serious head injuries in a rural hospital, when the best services for treating head injuries are at Beaumont?

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 8:18 PM

    It can be transmitted in sweat I don’t think you get HIV from sweat

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 8:20 PM

    Cholly – maybe you should head to West Africa and tell them all there’s nothing to worry about because its really hard to spread the disease. And then go to the US and tell the two patients over there because they obviously didn’t realise how difficult it was.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:14 PM

    I haven’t ever subscribed to all the conspiracy theorists but on this occasion all is not right as to why the US are really taking these 2 unfortunate people back to US soil.

    I expect they want them on their patch in order to be able see what they can find out about the Ebola virus now and, hopefully not be the case, when they die of it.

    Maybe it’s the case that they seriously hope they can save the two people but me thinks they want to do a few experiments in the meantime.

    Here’s hoping they survive and the US can indeed learn a little more about it but I’d rather they didn’t peddle this story about wanting to do all to save their citizens etc.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:28 PM

    There have been several ebola outbreaks before, they know all about it they don’t need to do any new primary research.
    They took them back to the US because they don’t have the facilities to treat them where they were.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 8:02 PM

    @Ryan

    Naive apologia.

    There is nothing stopping the most advanced nations on the planet in setting up state of the art facilities in these countries. Transporting this virus to jam-packed areas is asking for trouble. Nevermind disasters like airplane crashes.

    One would think that governments want Ebola to spread.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 8:05 PM

    Conspiracy theories.

    Like our govt’s have done right by us up to this, like there really were WMD’s in Iraq, when are people going to realise govt’s lie.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 8:11 PM

    There is indeed many things stopping them. Most of these countries still carry around a kind of childish nationalism and the idea of a foreign government coming in and it’s agencies taking over a section of their country to run as they please would not go over well, besides if it’s their people they will want them back on their own soil.
    The CDC facilities are in the US, it’s a logistical nightmare to move many of these halfway across the planet for 1-2 patents when you can just fly that patient home.

    I’m not even going to bother with the conspiracy nonsense, my experience with that kind of mindset is that nothing you say, no logic or facts will change their mind, 600 people see a plane crashing into the pentagon ”no no it was a missile” , you could argue it all day and they won’t change their minds because it’s not about the facts it’s about their mindset.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 8:18 PM

    @Ryan

    Nationalism is the opposite of childish, no nationalist country with it’s own currency as espoused by Libya would have succumbed to the world recession. It is interesting to note that what you would espouse as mature, results in mass devastation of peoples lives and livelihood.

    I did not say transport the facilities, it is obvious temporary bio-hazard clean-facility fabrications are capable of being erected in very short time and dotted around each country.

    To play around with global health is what is immature and irresponsible in the extreme.

    As for your conspiracy theory opinion, what people have seen a plane crash into the pentagon?

    Why at the Pennsylvania crach site there is no debris yet at the Russian MH17 crash site there is ample debris, all perfectly reasonable, in your book.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 8:37 PM

    America has a bad reputation for turning Drills into “actual events” …It has happened with almost every false flag to date including 9/11, Sandy Hook, , Boston Bombing and I also believe UK’s 7/7.

    When we hear of drills being carried out, they should be a sign of caution

    http://www.myfoxny.com/story/26170612/drill-in-new-york-city

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 9:07 PM

    Again, I don’t argue with conspiracy theories because they are not based in rational thought, you’re just arguing with someones psychosis.

    I’ve learned that lesson too many times, I’m not gonna exhaust myself debating someone who will not change their mind no matter what facts are presented to them. I’ve talked to enough truthers to know nothing anyone says will change their mind, they are fundamentally irrational.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 9:20 PM

    When the facts r not really facts . 9-11 commission report never explain y building 7 fell. There is and has only been 3 tall rise buildings that have ever collapsed due to fire and they all fell on the one day. Does anyome know the odds on that. I just cant belive people belive governments cause they tell ya too. If my misses cheats I will never belive ir trust her again. Its human nature .

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 9:48 PM

    @Ryan

    A conspiracy is when 2 or more people make a plan. Yet you seem to think people in govt are above making plans.

    You also decline to answer a very rational argument, a contrast and comparison argument.

    Plane crash in pennsylvania of one of the hijacked 9/11 aircraft left no debris, yet every other plane crash site I have seen, leaves debris including the recent Malaysian MH17, explain that.

    As an engagement in rationality one should ask that question on the simplest basis of contrasting results, yet your “rationality” prefers to ignore such pertinent questions. that sunshine smacks of irrationality.

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    Aug 3rd 2014, 1:37 AM

    So you’re saying the plane left no wreckage. That’s a new one. Are you the only person on the planet who has spotted that flaw in this master plan? Or did you read it off some whack job website?

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 6:59 PM

    Anyone else thinking the driver of the van is hot?

    Awful situation to be in, otherwise.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:20 PM

    She’s got green fingers and half a blue face ffs!!! That’s f**ked up man..seek help!

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:24 PM

    Oh no! You think she’s been infected?

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    Aug 3rd 2014, 2:57 AM

    She’s employed.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 9:45 PM

    Did I not hear on the news last night that there was to be no people leaving from that area so to contain the disease? And now I see two medical personnel have left and flown to the US. Ok it was a private jet but mistakes can be made and it could spread into the population.
    There is no cure apparently.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 7:19 PM

    Nice to see my correction Of your headline was deleted

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    Aug 3rd 2014, 10:51 AM

    I never realised there were so many experts on the ebola virus reading TheJournal.ie.

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    Aug 2nd 2014, 8:42 PM

    Agenda21 . Google it

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