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Irish citizens living in the UK fear they may lose healthcare access across EU after Brexit

What’ll happen for Irish people living in the UK with EHICs is far from clear post-Brexit.

IRISH CITIZENS LIVING in England, Scotland and Wales may lose access to healthcare in EU countries after Brexit, with the future of European Health Insurance Cards uncertain post-Brexit.

And the possibility of having that access to healthcare taken away was a major concern for Irish citizens who sought advice from the Irish embassy in London over the past year.

In numerous items of correspondence received by the Irish Embassy in London over the past 12 months, concerned Irish citizens living in the UK have queried whether they will still be able to access healthcare in EU member states through the EHIC after Brexit.

Other fears expressed by Irish citizens in the UK included what their status would be after Brexit and if they’d be able to remain there. In some cases, people described how they’d lived in the UK for more than five decades and were now worried about their future.

This correspondence was released to TheJournal.ie under the Freedom of Information Act.

In one instance, someone wrote: “I am an Irish citizen and Irish passport holder, born in the six counties. In the event of a no-deal Brexit, is it possible for me to obtain an EHIC?”

 What is an EHIC?

An EHIC – formerly the E111 card – is a card that lets you get healthcare in another EU or European Economic Area state for free, or at a reduced cost.

It generally covers you if you’re there on holiday or on a short term stay.

Irish and EU citizens living in Ireland can apply for the card. You must be living in Ireland, have an address here and be able to show proof of it.

If you live elsewhere in the EU, you are still entitled to an Irish-issued EHIC under a set number of conditions.

If you’re not eligible for an Irish-issued EHIC, the HSE advises you to see if you’re eligible for one in the country you’re living in. 

And, if you live in the UK, Irish citizens are entitled to a UK-issued EHIC. But, with the UK set to leave the EU, that is now in doubt.

It’s clear from the volume of correspondence received by the Irish embassy that losing this access to healthcare was a primary concern with Brexit looming.

‘Can you issue me one?’

The Irish Embassy has fielded hundreds of queries on a variety of topics related to Brexit. But the EHIC is one topic that appeared in correspondence again and again over the past year.

Another Irish citizen living in the UK asked: “When the UK leaves the EU, will the Irish government issue me with a new E111 card (the former name for the EHIC) – an Irish one given that I am a citizen?”

“As an Irish passport holder living in the UK, I have their EHIC card. If the UK leaves the EU this card will no longer be valid,” another wrote. “Can you issue me one, or what alternative do I have apart from my personal health insurance?”

In another case, someone who’d recently obtained an Irish passport inquired if they’d be eligible.

“I recently acquired an Irish passport through my grandfather. How do I obtain an EHIC after 29/03/19 (the original Brexit date). I only have a UK National Insurance number,” the person said.

“I have been previously advised to get one via the UK government (and did) but I now fear this will not be accepted anywhere post-Brexit.”

There were dozens of similar emails all querying healthcare in the EU post-Brexit. One wrote in: “I am an Ulsterman who resides in England. I only have an Irish passport. Obviously the UK government clearly hasn’t a clue.”

Residency

A Department of Health spokesperson confirmed to TheJournal.ie that the EHIC is issued not on the basis of someone’s nationality but instead issued based on a person’s residency in an EU country. 

“Although an individual may be an Irish passport holder, as they are resident in the UK, the issuance and continued validity of UK issued EHIC cards is a matter for the relevant British authorities,” the spokesperson said.

The department pointed to advice issued by the UK’s NHS on what would happen to the EHIC after Brexit.

It says: “The European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) may not be valid if there’s a no-deal Brexit. This will depend on arrangements with individual countries and might mean you need to pay for treatment in full.

If you’re using an EHIC issued by the UK, this will still be valid until the UK leaves the EU. If your trip or treatment started before Brexit and you’re being asked to pay for healthcare coverage after Brexit, the UK can help.

The British government has secured a deal with Spain to keep the EHIC active even if there’s a no-deal Brexit up to the end of 2020. Similarly, passport holders will still be able to access healthcare in Portugal and Ireland in the wake of a no-deal. But it does not have a deal with other countries.

Even if there is a deal, the future of EHIC scheme for British residents is uncertain. Under Boris Johnson’s deal, the EHIC would apply for the transition period to 31 December 2020.

After this, however, any path forward would need to be negotiated between the UK and EU. 

With Boris Johnson’s crushing victory in the general election, this turns into another aspect that the UK and EU will need to work out with talks on trade deals and customs arrangements now set to get under way in earnest in 2020.

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    Mute bmul
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    Dec 25th 2019, 6:41 PM

    Non EU residents no getting health care in the EU , wonder how many if them voted for brexit .

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    Mute Stephen Devlin
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    Dec 26th 2019, 10:04 AM

    @bmul: Probably a lot, watched a program where a street sellers business was going down the pan due to an increase in delivery times on supply lines. He voted for Brexit, this was the consequence.

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    Dec 25th 2019, 6:47 PM

    Even with an EHIC card I have travel insurance in place all year round just in case of the unforseen and it is not expensive.

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    Dec 25th 2019, 7:01 PM

    @Sam Cairns: Exactly, travel insurance is very cheap these days. This is a non-issue. Plus the UK could always negotiate back into the EHIC scheme much like their bilateral agreement with Australia on public healthcare access.

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    Mute Karl Charlie
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    Dec 25th 2019, 7:12 PM

    @Patrick Jackman: there is a difference there,both the uk and australia are part of the commonwealth so it wouldnt suprise me if they had an agreement on healthcare access, the uk wont be part of the eu after brexit.

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    Mute Valthebear
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    Dec 25th 2019, 7:12 PM

    Another Brexit scare story… Yawn

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    Mute Conor King
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    Dec 25th 2019, 7:28 PM

    Yawn yourself. I guess you’re a BoJo supporter who has had enough of the experts too?

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    Mute Dom Layzell
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    Dec 25th 2019, 8:21 PM

    @Conor King: Yawn to you’re scaremongering too Conor King. The Brits voted out of the European Super State. It’s called democracy, wish them well.

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    Mute Colm
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    Dec 25th 2019, 8:43 PM

    @Dom Layzell: go on give us an explanation

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    Dec 25th 2019, 8:49 PM

    @Colm: Colm, what did I say that needs an explanation? I’m happy to if I knew what you want explained?

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    Dec 25th 2019, 8:58 PM

    @Dom Layzell:

    Democracy eh!

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    Mute Conor King
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    Dec 25th 2019, 9:50 PM

    @Dom Layzell
    Can you translate that to English please?

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    Dec 25th 2019, 11:12 PM

    @Conor King: Vote share
    51.9%
    VOTES17,410,742 VOTES
    Remain
    Vote share
    48.1%
    VOTES16,141,241 VOTES

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    Dec 25th 2019, 11:57 PM

    @Dom Layzell

    You seem to be getting more confused and misinterpreting what I said (more than once). Good night and lay off those whiskies. You’ve already had too many.

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    Mute Tanks a Minion
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    Dec 26th 2019, 11:40 AM

    @Dom Layzell: Which version of Brexit did a majority agree on?

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    Mute Colm
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    Dec 25th 2019, 8:42 PM

    The clue is in the title EHIC which is a EU scheme…..EU!!! you have to be part of the EU to avail. #turkeysvote

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    Mute Mark
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    Dec 25th 2019, 8:01 PM

    So if they don’t like it move back to Ireland no? WTF is wrong with people these days expecting everything on a sliver platter…

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    Mute Mike Murphy
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    Dec 25th 2019, 8:20 PM

    Cant have your cake and eat it…..

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    May 27th 2020, 3:41 PM

    @Mike Murphy: but you can’t eat it unless you have it

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    Dec 25th 2019, 7:25 PM

    Glory for all our pro Brexit expats who danced with joy at Brexit – they were greeted with derision when they arrived in England yet succeeded in creating a good life for themselves and then voted to deny any young Irish person they same chance at creating a decent life for themselves.
    Only the Irish would piss on their own

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    Mute Dom Layzell
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    Dec 25th 2019, 8:24 PM

    @TM B: What on Earth are you on about?

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    Dec 25th 2019, 10:33 PM

    @Dom Layzell: Irish people (relatives of mine as an example) left Ireland with nothing Made their way in GB and one ardent Brexiteer – could not see she sought to prevent any other Irish man/woman or any other nationality the chance to do the same(now a rather well of lady) The consequences of Brexit yet unseen or experienced are going to be far more devastating than British under classes expect or believe will experience

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    Dec 25th 2019, 7:15 PM

    Should uk live here no access Irish health on end of January

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    Dec 25th 2019, 7:26 PM

    @Brian Flavin: why there still residents of Ireland and the EU, this about people who will get cover in the UK but not the EU as they will no longer be residents of the EU .

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    Dec 25th 2019, 8:24 PM

    @bmul: you correct 100%

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    Mute TM B
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    Dec 25th 2019, 7:27 PM

    Yawn away but anyone who have placed their trust in robotic Boris devoid of humanity will in time regret their folly then I agree they had no choice when presented with Corbyn and the loony left

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    Dec 25th 2019, 7:37 PM

    @TM B: Stay off the shorts i can make out what your trying to say ?????

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    Dec 25th 2019, 10:34 PM

    @Robert Preston: ok that bloody red wine

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    Dec 25th 2019, 11:26 PM

    @TM B: Well blame the drink but what were you trying to say i dont understand your post

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    Dec 26th 2019, 6:54 AM

    Visitors can get travel insurance but the big hit will be those Brits who’ve retired to the Costas etc, have sold up in the UK and moved lock stock and barrel and are living on a pension. Big numbers who may have to take private health insurance in order to stay.
    Sometimes I get the feeling that there’s petty jealousy at play with some of arch Brexiteers who are enjoying the pain it’s causing to their fellow Brits who’ve been a bit more adventurous than themselves.

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    Dec 26th 2019, 7:14 AM
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    Dec 26th 2019, 11:32 AM

    Under the Common Travel Area (CTA) Irish nationals living in the UK are regarded as having “settled status” (and vice versa) and due to bilateral agreements between the countries, Irish in the UK will have no problems using the NHS as they do now. For more information go to ‘Health and Brexit’ on the gov.ie website, and ‘Common Travel Area Guidance’ on the gov.uk website.

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    Mute Alan Byrne
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    Dec 25th 2019, 8:20 PM

    No we are not, who comes out with this nonsense. We pay national insurance for a reason.

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