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THE CONCEPT OF streamed, on-demand TV has been around for over a decade, but season one of the battle for eyeballs is only just getting started.
Since launching in 2007, Netflix has managed to position itself as the front-runner in the world of binge-worthy entertainment.
Now, a swathe of new services from media giants such as Disney and HBO – as well as tech colossus Apple – are ready to bring a healthy dose of disruption to the industry.
With that in mind, here’s a quick rundown of the streaming wars and what it means for Ireland.
The key players
There are a handful of major competitors in the streaming wars, alongside dozens of smaller players like ad-supported services Pluto TV and Tubi and the curiously named Crunchyroll.
The latest to open curtains is Disney+, which, for now, is only available in the US, Canada and the Netherlands – it’s earmarked to launch in Ireland on 31 March 2020.
At €7 per month, the service has so far attracted over 10 million subscribers with its library of family-friendly content from the house of Mickey Mouse – along with titles like Marvel, Star Wars and The Simpsons, picked up through Disney’s acquisitions.
Apple TV+ went live at the start of November with a limited selection of programming. It costs €4.99 a month and it’s free for a year for anyone who buys a new Apple device. Spoiler alert: that gives you an idea of the main motivation behind the iPhone maker’s move into programming.
Just like Amazon is betting that Prime Video will entice people to spend more on online shopping, Apple hopes its streaming service will help shift more hardware products and bring extra business to its other services.
HBO Max – a far more extensive version of the AT&T-owned network’s existing HBO Now and Go options – has yet to launch, but it appears to be trying the hardest to dethrone Netflix.
The service will be more expensive at $14.99 a month in the States, but it will be investing heavily in content and boast an impressive catalogue featuring HBO hits such as Game of Thrones and The Sopranos alongside the sitcom Friends, the series of Harry Potter films, CNN documentaries and Adult Swim cartoons.
Then there are the incumbents, Hulu, NowTV and Amazon Prime Video. Netflix, which starts with a basic package of €7.99 per month and charges €11.99 for its standard package in Ireland, is the dominant player in terms of subscriptions with some 158 million paying users at the end of September.
The main hurdles
One of the main issues facing streaming providers is the fact that there’s a finite number of subscriptions consumers are willing to pay for – according to Bloomberg, the average punter will sign up for three to five services on top of their broadband bill and that’s it.
It’s not just monetary spending – there’s also a limited number of hours of leisure time that people have to gorge on TV series and films. All of this means the battle to win eyeballs will be fierce.
And delivering binge-worthy programmes doesn’t come cheap. Netflix alone spent $12 billion on programming in 2018, a figure that’s expected to increase this year.
The Economist news magazine reports this week that the entertainment industry spent at least $650 billion on acquisitions and programming over the last five years, roughly the same level of investment as the American oil industry.
It’s likely that as the market evolves, programming costs will decrease – in the meantime, streaming service providers may have to introduce incremental price increases, just as Netflix during the summer “to reflect the significant investments we’ve made in new TV shows and films”.
What it means for Ireland
The rollout of additional services at prices comparatively lower than traditional TV packages is good news for consumers.
For Irish producers, many streaming sites have a dual role as both service providers and content-hungry commissioners – as previously reported by Fora, some industry pundits believe it is cheaper for streaming services to commission a production than acquire one that been a success for another network.
This opens up more potential avenues for film and TV makers to flog their ideas. Some Irish firms have already reaped the benefits.
For example, Oscar-nominated Cartoon Saloon was commissioned to create a new animated series called My Father’s Dragon for Netflix. Meanwhile, Limerick’s Troy Studios was reportedly chosen as the filming location for Apple TV+ sci-fi series Foundation.
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Most likely those that would not fold the buggy are the ones who most likely don’t have the money to pay fine.
@JesusMoreBullshit: serious question…who will hold the baby while the buggy is being folded?
@JesusMoreBullshit: or to be more accurate…..don’t give a dam about fines as they don’t pay for anything anyway.
@JesusMoreBullshit: I think new buses being built should hold a more space for wheeled passengers. I would always fold my buggie if required but it can be very difficult especially when the bus is full
@BigNuts: don’t have children myself but I had thought of that. I definitely think wheelchair users should have priority but I feel sorry for the person left standing holding a baby and trying to fold a buggy on a packed bus while other seated passengers look on.
@JesusMoreBullshit: the wheelchair user should fold away their chair maybe
@Siobhan Breen Malone: generally a buggy is folded with one hand. I’ve seen people help of course when it’s wedged. But no one is refusing to fold a buggy because it’s awkward. It’s a bit of a distraction.
@BigNuts: I have personally got out of the cab and held a baby or folded their buggy for them. Tho there are so many people who buy these snazzy buggies that you just can’t fold on a whim. So you end up getting loads say they don’t know how to fold it. The 161 buses onwards all have one buggy space and one wheelchair accessible space . We allow a second buggy use the wheelchair space, tho I would say if a wheelchair user needs to board they have to fold.They say no problem. Tho when a wheelchair user does come along that’s when some can refuse. Even tho they said they would. Now you could say no. There is already a buggy on and that’s a wheelchair space only, but then you get scolded as its not in use and your leaving a mother and baby out in the cold as she can’t fold her buggy. Catch22.
@BigNuts: I just thought the same thing. Grand if it’s a toddler that can stand for a second while the buggy is folded but what about a newborn? They hardly expect a stranger to hold the baby while the parent folds the buggy?
Any parent who knows that they will be using public transport will keep that in mind when buying a buggy. There’s plenty of lightweight, easy to fold down buggies on the market . Those who don’t buy them and refuse to fold down on the bus, are usually the ones who don’t give a damn .
@lochinvar56: then you’d lose your bet because there’s plenty of one hand, fold down buggies on the market .
@BigNuts: as I bus driver I have both folded the prams for parent’s and held baby’s while they folded. There is always good passengers who help out when needed. Just fold the pram without being asked.
@lochinvar56: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7GxDz30bHo. What charity
@BigNuts: if not travelling alone with the child, the person you are with would hold the child?
@John Longmore: I’m sure that Mr Bullshit would first have to ascertain if the wheelchair user had paid for the wheelchair themselves or not. Srsly tho, people are generally quite pleasant and I know I’d offer my help but the wheelchair user has first choice for the wheelchair spot, always.
@Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: When my son was small (he’s 28 now) I had a lightweight McClaren buggy, ‘specially for when I knew we’d have to use public transport. It was great. It’s the people with double buggies I feel really sorry for.
@BigNuts: fold it at the bus stop.
@John Longmore: try folding an electric wheelchair. Or having no legs and try to do it
Fines won’t work,the type of person who won’t fold a buggy has an entitled to everything free attitude and will refuse to pay or at best go to the relieving officer to get the money costing taxpayers more..just put them off the bus or have the bus driver radio for an inspector who can take their free travel pass number and have it temporarily suspended
@Damian Kelly: my faith in humanity and my fellow country folk, whether it be blind or not, would tell me that this would be a very rare occurrence.. can’t see fines working.
@Damian Kelly: I am a bit shocked by the attitude here towards people who don’t have a lot of money. Yes they’re more likely to be on the bus with babies; rich people have cars. Yes, they usually have crap old hand me down prams; nice ones cost a lot. I had a crap pram at first because I got it free and didn’t know what a difference a nice one would make. It was an honest mistake and an attempt to save money when I didn’t have a lot. Babies are very expensive and people who are still fertile and young don’t earn a lot. I wasn’t earning enough to do it comfortably until well into my 30s, which is too old to be a good mother. I wouldn’t have the energy now!
@Damian Kelly: sarcasm at its best
@SC: yeah there are a lot of hateful people in these comment sections. I try to imagine they are a loud minority, or at least they would act differently in person if they were confronted with a poor person. Although somehow I doubt that.
An easy way to try out first is to give bus drivers the authority to say that the bus will remain at the stop until the person with the buggy complies with the direction to fold it or get off the bus. If the person will not comply the other passengers annoyance at being unnecessarily delayed would probably persuade the offender.
Don’t fine them they won’t pay. If they are ignorant enough not to fold their buggy they deff won’t pay. Just put them off the bus. That’s all they deserve.
@Janet Fitzpatrick: Won’t somebody please think of the children?
Not all buggies can be folded down neatly, in that the seat has to be removed from the frame to fold down, resulting in two awkward items to try and store, one of which is not free standing
@Vocal Outrage: sounds like a minor inconvience to me, not all wheel chair users can take a seat and fold down their wheelchair
@robbie: honestly, try and put yourself in the position of having fully loaded buggy with infant, and one or 2 llother littles ones and being asked to foldup up ona busy possibly moving bus . U gotta unload all the the shopping and baby stuff, hold the baby while standing and fold the buggy one handed. Try that.
@ConPhoto: lucky for most people, they actually can put themselves in a parents position of having to fold up buggys, try doing the same with a wheelchair user
@ConPhoto: but they can dp it, they can stand, it is possible, a wheelchair user can’t do anything, they cant stand
@robbie: the uppababy brand of buggies can’t be folded. The seat has to be removed with 2 hands and doesn’t fold, the frame does. Not possible to fold down singlehanded and even with assistance the dis-assembled buggy storage takes up the same space
@Vocal Outrage: then if as a parent you know you’re going to use public transport on a regular basis then you shouldn’t be buying one .
@Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: not so easy for 1st time parents, you don’t realise just how problematic some of them can be. Pressurised by friends and stores into buying the ‘Infant Travel Systems’ that combine crib, buggy and pram and then once you realise the problems can’t afford the simple fold down variety.
@Vocal Outrage: the wheelchair space on a bus, is it for buggies or wheelchairs?
@Paddy: both I think. A better design would be to have a designated spot for each, optimised for that type of passenger, but that costs seats, which would cause uproar as overall bus capacity would drop.
Ironically, the suggestion from Dublin Bus has pitched parents against disability advocates when the real fight should be why Dublin Bus are not buying vehicles suitable for all categories of passengers in tandem rather than prioritising one category of customer over another
@Vocal Outrage: that’s their fault for being easily influenced. And swayed by their friends and family . Yes you get blown away with all the systems that are out there but you’ve got to practical.
@Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: you miss my point, no doubt deliberately, beforehand you don’t realise that those systems aren’t practical for public transport, and the amount of conflicting advice can be bewildering so you spend a fortune on stuff with the best of intentions for your child and only after how much is not practical, or even used, and then can’t afford the practical stuff
@Vocal Outrage: people are not that stupid, if you rely on getting buses then you would know when buying it that there’s no way it would be easy and practical for getting on buses.
@Vocal Outrage: usually only parents with cars buy this type of buggy as it doubles as a car seat. They are not intended for public transport when they
@Vocal Outrage: because it is meant for a car. The top doubles as.a car seat rest goes in boot. Think before you buy your pushchair.
@Rita Farrell: ah, so many experts on the Journal today
@Vocal Outrage: they should buy one if there using the public service . What about the disabled who are trying have there life and move around free like everyone else
@ConPhoto: try put yourself in a disabled person who need the public transport and freedom to move around like everyone else. Who also what to shop work etc
@Lisa Byrne: Bring back the conductors
What about fines been brought in for Dublin bus drivers who take too long to change bus drivers.the 123 bus is well known for this behaviour especially when one has only two more stops to make to their destination
@Liam Ward: I’m not sure but it might have something to do with their tachograph card. Drivers are only allowed drive buses or trucks within certain limits. A driver might be seated on a bus but can’t move off until their rest period is over. If they move off too early they are breaking the law. I’ve been caught out on a few occasions where I got caught in traffic and ran out of time on my tacho. On one occasion I was 3 miles from my depot but had to stop of half and hour otherwise I would have gone over my hours. It could be the same case here.
@Liam Ward: the change over of drivers is timed with the start and finish of their shift, some days traffic and passenger loading can be light and we get there early before the sechudle change over time,
Jesus Christ its not rocket science,bus manufacture’s should be required to put child proof seating adjacent to the wheelchair / buggy slot. This way the parent could secure the child using straps while they fold up the buggy.
Everything now in this country is becoming divisive. Can no one try to reach solutions without imposing fines? Next thing on which fines will be imposed, is the passing of wind!!
@Jane Waters: great idea
@Jane Waters: couldn’t agree more the bus designs are all wrong take 2 seats out and open up that hole area at the bottom of the stairs plenty of room for everyone
@Jane Waters: Dublin Bus are deflecting, they are pitching different categories of customer against each other, successfully, rather than explaining why they are buying unsuitable vehicles and prioritising one category of customer over another.
I got the bus last week, had to ask people to move out of buggy spot. Anyway wheelchair spot was free but driver told the dad he could only get on if he folded the buggy first. I thought it was a bit unfair. It was a big double buggy. However after reading this I guess it’s because some people won’t fold their buggy if needs be. A few people messing a system up for everyone strikes again.
@Sos: that used to always be the case years ago, had to have buggy folding before boarding the bus.
There is no excuse, they should have plenty of time to fold their buggy’s when the driver abandons the bus for 20 minutes in Parnell Square……..
@Fat Face 99: Drivers are entitled to break periods are they not? Again, look at my comment to Liam Ward. Driving a bus is not the same as driving a car.
Younger children in buggies may also have a disability. Is it safe to be holding a newborn on public transport with no seat belt.
@Ciaran O ‘Reilly: is said newborn that much safer in the pram (probably not in a buggy at this stage) if the bus were to stop suddenly or take a corner too sharply?
@Ciaran O ‘Reilly: if the bus was in an accident or if a fight or a fire broke out on the bus , a child in a buggy wouldn’t stand a chance. It’s a big safety issue.
Too soft on crime in this country, they should be given 20 years hard labour or shot.
@Ben Dawkins: and the children sold to rich American families.
@Ben Dawkins: We’d want to make sure not to shot them before the labour is finished.
If the buggy space is full and a buggy user wants to use the disability space then they should be allowed to only if they fold the buggy from the start so if a person with a disability gets on that person can still use the disability space. If they refuse to fold from the start then they’ll have to wait for a bus with a free buggy spot. Sorted.
Was on the 31 yesterday evening and saw a driver ask a woman to do this. I was outraged because there was space for parking the buggy (which I admit was quite bulky) and she struggled with a small baby and numerous bags. Two of us got up to help (a woman got there before me) and the buggy had to be put onto the platform area for bags.
It all makes sense now and the driver was right even though we all felt terrible for the mother. Parents and caregivers will defo have to prepare for more of this.
@Annie Citric: Why would you feel terrible for the mother? It was her choice to buy a bulky pram! She’s not disabled, she’s a parent. I save my sympathies for people who will continue to fight this fight long after her ‘disability’ is grown up and dealing with their own ‘disability’.
@Annie Citric: be more prepared ? It was always the way on buses .wheelchair spaces were never for buggies .
@Julia O’Bryne: Chill out sweetie. I was making the point that I agree with prioritising the area for people with disabilities. The Mum understood too. I suspect she had been able to park the buggy many times before so was just caught off guard like many people will be in the future. In fairness, there are signs in relation to positioning buggies in those areas so therefore it seems reasonable that people think they can bring/park buggies on board.
@Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: I disagree. There are signs indicating how to park a buggy. (I’m all for creating space for wheelchairs btw).
If a wheelchair user needs the spot clear out of it you inconsiderate selfish yoke.
Don’t allow them to board the bus unless it is folded
It’s been years since i’ve been on a dublin bus but I remember if you didnt have a seat or you were on a sideways facing one having to hold on for dear life as the bus driver took turns and stopped at bus stops on steep hills etc. I wouln’t fancy holding a child while trying to do that especially with other people stumbling about knocking into you or your baby. Never mind your arm would be hanging off you by the time you got to your stop
Fines will never work.who issues the fine on the scene,the driver?as a bus driver I know it’ll never work.try calling an inspector and it’ll take 30-60 mins for one to arrive if even.why should everyone else have to suffer by waiting or even worse putting them onto another bus which could be packed which will take the offending persons bus out of service and have a knock on effect throughout the day.thats just one fine issuing incident.imagine if there’s numerous incidents during the day throughout Dublin.
Transport police is the only solution and that’s never going to happen.
No id, no fine. That was easy. Now, let’s get back to conductors on each bus who dealt with this from riders and other nonsense that goes on on them. Another job created, too.
Surely to God there is a huge health and safety issue with prams and buggys on buses. What are the regulations about seat belts on buses. You can’t just put a baby/toddler at risk.
@Esther Kavanagh: All DB buses are limited to only 60km/ph so they don’t need seatbelts which are only required on schoolbuses. Also DB buses have standing space so they don’t need seatbelts.
Us drivers are afraid of the people who behave like this — they would be attacked on the spot or the driver would be afraid of a gang of thugs at a later date. They use their mobiles to photograph the driver. CCTV should be used and it should be published in papers and social media well in advance so it is controlled from HQ. The Gardai should be called and the people arrested and their free pass taken off them.
How is this enforceable?
I hope they follow up on this.Something has to be done.I was getting on a bus after an hour of waiting with my sis who has two disabled children,however only her youngest one was with us that day.The wheelchair space was taken up with two buggies with no children in them, only shopping.The driver asked the women,who had their kids on their laps, to fold their buggies and they refused.We had to fold down the wheelchair before the driver would let us on,and carry her child on.If she had been on her own or if both her son’s had been with her she would have had to wait another hour for the next one and hope that it would be free.Yes it’s hard on mother’s but think of if it was your child left out in the rain in the dark.
Animals like that should be fined and banned from the bus. Make an example of them!!
Not many moons you had to fold your buggy to get on the bus, now it’s seen as right to ram people outta the way to get priority space on a bus
Self entitled mentality in full force
OK. Forget the rights and wrongs about folding pram or not, as the case often is. Ask yourself, who’s going to issue these fines? It won’t be the driver. He’s not allowed to leave his cab to engage with a customer.It won’t be an inspector, because you would need one on standby every couple of kilometres. So that’s not workable. That just leaves the Gardaí. They won’t respond either because they are understaffed and it is not high enough priority for them. So really this is just a paperwork affair for the minister to show how much he cares. Good bless him. The only solution is a space for one buggy on the bus and one space for a wheelchair which cannot be occupied by a buggy under any circumstances.
I use the bus all the time with my baby. Strollers are great for buses, big prams less so. Don’t be a dick n. Fold your pram or get off n get the next bus ( both of which I have done). A few weeks ago got on the 18 bus & thought crap theres a lady with a pram on already, lovely driver on board told me not to worry to get on. Turns out it was a lady with an intellectual disability with a real looking doll. We had a great chat about our babies and the driver was very kind to her. Anothet lady held my baby while I folded her ( real) stroller. I have
How did we manage years ago? We had buggy folded waiting on the bus and a baby in the other hand and another child minding the shopping
If they refuse to fold the buggy ,then they should pay an extra fare for the use of the space,after all the next pasenger has rights as well
What happened to being decent human beings and helping each other with shopping or babies…mums – just use a light quick fold buggy, and baby wont die if fellow passenger holds for a moment.! I travelled with my baby on planes trains buses single handed, and with luggage too,its tricky but not impossible….what a sad society we are turning into babies v disabled…if we all had a little more consideration and compassion this wouldnt even be an issue. Without doubt buggies should be folded for wheelchairs so if mums know they are going on public transport –prepare for it !
@Jennifer Doran: I’ve stood on a Dublin Bus while heavily pregnant and in danger of flying down the aisle every time the driver braked, and nobody offered me a seat. Dublin has a long way to go. Why not ask several standing passengers to leave instead of blaming mothers?
what if 4yr old kid dont want get of it
@Aidan Augustus Daly: 4yr old kid learns lesson on society compliance fast.
It really doesn’t help that so many people including Stephen Hannan who spoke to the committee don’t appear to know the difference between a Pram and a Buggy/Stroller.
@Tom: Interesting that you pick out Stephan Hannan’s comment as he is a bus driver and please explain “What is the difference between a Pram and a Buggy/ Stroller because I don’t see any difference as to what their purpose is, as in the carrying of a child in a wheeled carrier”which the Parent/ Guardian or respective minder has the option to take the child out of said carrier and travel on the bus as opposed to a “Wheelchair user”who doesn’t have the option to remove themselves from the wheelchair to travel because someone has little or no consideration for other people
@Ciaran King: I was so badly injured on my first child that I would have had a great deal of difficulty holding him while standing. It simply would not have been safe. I used wheel him around the house the buggy. I had to.
This is no answer. It simply shifts blame to the next most vulnerable group. As a young mother with a badly damaged pelvis, I wouldn’t have been able to hold a baby and a buggy. It’s not like people are inclined to give seats to pregnant women or new mothers either. And remember, Dublin Bus are the guys who went on strike the day of the last March for Choice. No friends to women.
This is no answer. It simply shifts brae to the next most vulnerable group. A s kayoing mother with a badly damaged pelvis, I wouldn’t have been able to hold a baby and a buggy. It’s not like people are inclined to give seats to pregnant women or new mothers either. And remember, Dublin Bus are the guys who went on strike the day of the last March for Choice. No friends to women.
Ban all buggies , all have to be folded only solution,, wheelchair only problem solved
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