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Farmers sleep in the cabs of their tractors outside the Shelbourne hotel. Sam Boal/Rollingnews

Poll: Do you support the farmers' protest this week?

It’s expected that the protests will continue throughout this morning and into the afternoon.

FARMERS ARE CONTINUING to protest in Dublin city centre this morning, leading to disruption for bus routes and long delays for rush hour traffic.

Dozens of tractors were parked in the streets around the Dáil yesterday, blocking the Merrion Street entrance of Leinster House, preventing some politicians and Oireachtas staff from exiting last night. 

Confronting Minister for Agriculture Michael Creed this morning, the independent group of farmers urged him to take action to help end the injunctions against farmers from meat processors and to do more for rural Ireland.

When asked about the disruption to people in Dublin this morning, one farmer said: “We’re sorry for them but we are disrupted going to work every day. They’re getting paid, we’re not.”

We want to know: Do you support the farmers’ protest? 


Poll Results:

Yes (9418)
No (4777)
No interest / no opinion (610)

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    Mute dublinsnap
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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:38 AM

    I’m from Dublin I work in the areas affected and I support the farmers 100%. This government is not fit for office shame on every single one of them. They have brought this country to its knees with NCHI, homelessness, hospital over crowding the list goes on. The farmers have had enough and the only way to be heard is to bring the city to a standstill

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:58 AM

    @dublinsnap: the government doesn’t set farm prices. Nothing to do with them.
    So the only thing the government can do is divert more taxes to farmers to allow the supermarkets to squeeze them even more.

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    Mute @at
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:18 AM

    @John Mulligan: you really don’t have a clue. The government signed into law some legislation a few yrs back that gave one man Larry Goodman full control of the beef prices in this country. Simon Coventry basically gave Larry Goodman control over the disposal of the factory waste material. Control this and you control the processing. Control the processing and you control the beef prices. Guess who is married to Larry Goodman’s niece. Yes you have guessed it, it is Simon Coveney. Guess what party Larry Goodman donates too, yep you are correct, it is FG

    The farmers are out protesting against corruption in this country and all the FFG cheerleaders like yourself can do is find ways to run them down

    You deserve all the corruption and economic hardship that visits your doorstep

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    Mute ed w
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:22 AM

    @@at: farmers also sold all their coops as well dont forget that

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    Mute Edmund Murphy
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:28 AM

    @@at: Wow I learned a lot from that

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:43 AM

    @dublinsnap: The farmers don’t give a crap how the country is run all they care about is Grant’s and handouts….if you were left starving on the street they would not blink an eyelid, who do you think votrs FFG and keeps the country the car crash it is ….Irish people really are as dumb as it gets lol

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    Mute dublinsnap
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:44 AM

    @John Mulligan: OK then, I’d do more research if I was you

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:49 AM

    @@at: Thanks for that, excellent post

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    Mute James Brady
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:50 AM

    @@at: I’m still at a bit of a loss. As I understand it, farmers want their product to sell at a higher price? Sadly, so does every single producer, business and sole trader since the dawn of time.
    Even if you chose to ignore:
    1) animal cruelty practices and the dubious necessity to kill sentient beings for our pleasure.
    2) the catastrophic environmental impact of methane and other greenhouse gases associated with animal farming
    3) the wasteful use of land that could produce far more calories per acre with arable practice
    4) the many other negative impacts that cattle farming brings to our country
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production

    Even if I ignore all that, I still don’t buy into the narrative that we should subsidise this terminal industry

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:01 PM

    @dublinsnap: well said! Agree 100%.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:08 PM

    @James Brady: So in one hand you are complaining about the killing sentient beings, and also suggesting we increase arable farming? Are you aware of how many sentient beings (rats, mice, birds) are killed as a result of arable farming? Not all land is best suited to arable farming, you grow what grows best in your soil, and in the case of beef farmers, the crop that grows best is grass. Unless we start eating grass, the best use of that land is beef production.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:09 PM

    @@at: Superb post, and 100% correct.

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    Mute james foley
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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:29 PM

    @dublinsnap: what do you suggest a bigger subsidy on top of the CAP. Who pays ?

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:31 PM

    @Peter Hughes: Yes you are 100% right and you are the dumbest of them all

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:32 PM

    @James Brady: You are certainly at a loss of a few brain cells

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:35 PM

    @@at: Super post .. ist the FG was , like was wit the IW disaster with DOB being allowed to buy Siteserve with their dept written off before being awarded contract to install meters …

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    Nov 27th 2019, 1:36 PM

    @James Brady: you seemed to have some semblance of knowledge until you referenced wikipedia as your source

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    Nov 27th 2019, 1:51 PM

    @John Mulligan: government set the cost of living through taxes if the taxes weren’t so high the cost of everything would not be so high ,then they might make a sustainable living

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    Nov 27th 2019, 2:53 PM

    @Gerard Heery: then we couldn’t pay for services – the most crucial aspects of cost of living are cost of housing, healthcare/insurance, and if you have children – care/education.

    Look at your expenses monthly – that’s the highest cost for the vast majority of people.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 3:25 PM

    @Peter Hughes: how does that explain all the FF and FG TDS in the greater Dublin area?

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    Nov 27th 2019, 3:59 PM

    @James Brady: wow ! Let me say it’s so refreshing to see an expert on land suitability! It’s clear to me that you know everything about it. Would you like a really well paid job in the department of agriculture? That way we’d all get to see your brilliance! You could combine it, “no farmer pun intended” with an equally brilliant consultancy career with the department of the environment! And perhaps you could help us all out and solve the ever increasing damage caused by fossil fuels as well. Larry Goodman could do with a few tips on how to screw the farmer even more so you could help out there too.

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    Mute Michael Keegan
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    Nov 27th 2019, 5:57 PM

    @dublinsnap: The farmers have always been crying about something, thankfully their lobby is no longer effective. So many of my friends emigrated in the 80s due to the stagnant economy, no help from the State. The beef farmers account for a third of greenhouse gasses, due to the lack of diversity a bovine outbreak could result in catastrophe. The State has to buy carbon credits to meet our climate commitments et etc

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:42 AM

    I absolutely support the farmers. Their industry is under attack from EU/globalism who are trying to destroy national food independence & subject the people to their control of imports.

    If you value basic freedom & self determination this is now the time to stand up for it.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:09 AM

    @Mick Byrne: independence is the key word here, if by some chance all of Europe lets its farms grow wild and import all our food then we will effectively be held over a barrel. Plus the rigorous regulations in place within Ireland for food production will be for show if all our imported food were to be laced with all sorts of chemicals and hormones

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:26 AM

    @Mick Byrne: Well said Mick.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:28 AM

    @Vote4Pedro: I find it so funny when people throw words like “chemicals” around so loosely as a scare tactic. H2O is a chemical, you know that right?

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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:39 AM

    @Mick Byrne: And all the EU grants they get, they obviously hate those too yes?

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:23 PM

    @Terrence Edwards: Are you referring to the heady days of EEC butter mountains or the way the EU controls how the money we send them is spent here?

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:32 PM

    @Gavin Conran: but he’s not talking about H20, he is talking about harmful chemicals in feed & beef laced with growth hormones, you know that right.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:43 AM

    Rural Ireland is changing dramatically, under most city commuters and politicians noses.. Small hold farming may well become a thing of the past as life drains away from small towns and villages..it’s a simple question, do we accept this in Ireland or not..Personally I hold dearly the culture and way of life that is the heartbeat of rural Ireland, and think it would be a catastrophic loss to all Ireland if our rural areas were allowed to transform into simple commuter towns, holiday home regions, golf courses and weekend retreats or playgrounds for the wealthy.. we need to save rural Ireland and it’s way of life as a matter of urgency

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:47 AM

    Well I completely support them, trust me as a farmers daughter not one of them want to be standing in Dublin City for days.They are the only people in society I know who do the most work and long hours in wet cold and miser, to produce there products,then have to sell it at a loss but everyone else involved in the operation make a huge profit from there work.
    What they are doing is truly desperation and at there wits end, if they don’t get some one to listen farming in Ireland will be no more.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:30 AM

    Love to see a Dublin not Dublin breakdown on this as I’d imagine lots of people supporting it aren’t affected by it and it’s easy to support disruptive behaviour when it’s someone else’s problem

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:34 AM

    @Ronan Fahy: I’m a dub and I’m supporting this. As someone said on the news article, plenty of people complaining about the government but when some get up off their ass to do something about it everyone goes mad. Fair play to them. Even if it’s a pain to people in the city

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:34 AM

    @Ronan Fahy:For what it’s worth, I’m in dublin. My bus has been badly affected by the protests and I’m dead late! I still support the farmers.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:36 AM

    @Ronan Fahy: It’s never someone else’s problem.Quite simply as was recently said across the water this country isn’t working for its people.Any group highlighting the inefficiencies and putting it up to Leo’s arrogant smug bow to the rich regime will get my support.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:36 AM

    @Ronan Fahy: nothing to do with being affected by it. I’m not affected by it and I don’t support it.

    I rarely come across the mass protest that I do support. They’re usually people just marching for their own interests.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:37 AM

    @my name: Theyre not doing anything about “the government” they’re demanding that tax payers money be diverted to give them more. Nothing to do with government performance.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:50 AM

    @Shazam37: I live in Balbriggan and there is lots of farming around here. Dublin has rural constituencies too!

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:51 AM

    @Shazam37: but if you don’t march for your interest your business will be no more.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:12 AM

    @Ronan Fahy: hahaha it’s your problem for a day!!! Jesus is all of Dublin heading past it this morning? God love us there are actually people going deprived of their skinny late

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:16 AM

    @Shazam37: of course they are marching to protect their interests. That’s the point you clown. But if the public could only realise this extends to more than the farming community. This is a revolt against a corrupt toxic system. Wake up and smell the bacon ireland is turning into a farce and the tax payer is bearing the weight of all the bad decisions governments have been making for decades. Fair play to them it’s time people stopped taking crap

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:22 AM

    @Shazam37: that’s just not true, they are demanding that injunctions be dropped as agreed 2 months ago

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:48 AM

    @Shazam37: ponder that thought as you tuck into your dinner that a farmer had to grow and rear and then get screwed on the price

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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:11 AM

    @Tommy C: Yes! Do you ACTUALLY KNOW what happens when Oisín and Sadb from Corporate Accounts don’t get their Moccachinos in time before their morning ride in Conference Room F? They’re late for it and then poor Doireann from Events sees more of Oisín than his wife ever saw in 5 years the poor woman. Now HR are involved and over what? A few farmers having a canary over money. Again.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:16 AM

    @Ole dan tucker: Why should they be? So they can cause even more disruption?

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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:16 AM

    @Derek Lyster: I will

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    Nov 27th 2019, 1:10 PM

    @Derek Lyster: mmm… Brazilian beef! Seriously, though, to compete the self interested, zero cost activity of protesting in Dublin for an issue that is determined exclusively by rural TDs is just a selfish act and to tie it into other issues like health and housing is horrible. While I emphasise with reduced profit (remember, it is a profit – all the salaries you see are after the farming business had been paid, which includes all personal overheads), this is just to provide temporary hardship to urban workers, but mainly to show that the govt will let small rural lobbies have their way. And… Most rural workers are not in farms, and they only produce a tiny portion of food on our tables.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 1:47 PM

    @Brin: Your talking through your hoop Farmers are only looking for a fair price for their product and its not about profit its about a living wage to support their families and its not after personal overheads its after business overheads which are huge. And like a lot of people against the protest here think they are not looking for tax handouts they are looking for a fair price from the factories which are monopolised by the few with govt help driving the prices down by having huge herds of their own, buying only when necessary. And if the rural T.Ds are standing up to be heard well thank god somebody in the Dail is looking after rural ireland because the likes of Leo, Ross, Murphy, Harris and their ilk dont give one fig about it.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 1:55 PM

    @Shazam37: That would make you a sheep then.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 2:51 PM

    @Ronan Fahy: This effects my route to work very badly and I support them. Monopolies should not exist

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:37 AM

    I’d be much more supportive if they were looking for help in organising some means of becoming more efficient and bring the cost of production down. Just demanding more money when they don’t have to sell at that price seems a bit short sighted and we’ll only be back here again in a few years.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:46 AM

    @Darren Byrne: if you want quality, sustainability and humanely produced Irish food you can’t have it produced cheaply. It’s The food fallacy

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:55 AM

    @Mary Webb: Meat is certainly not sustainable, farmers need to wake up and move on, there’s a boom going on in Hemp products worldwide for building materials, biofuels and plastics, Ireland has a perfect climate for growing this and then removes 4 x times the CO2 from the atmosphere, that trees do, which means greater carbon credits for Ireland ..simply diversity like any smart business person would.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:16 AM

    @Ibhar Mac Suibhne: Can you eat Hemp, lol

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:16 AM

    @Darren Byrne: What like ask the cattle to go on a diet to save money do ya not think farmers would try and lower costs of production themselves its not like the can keep their cattle or produce indefinitely.They have bills to pay every week so they have to sell and the factorys knows this.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:25 AM

    @Seamus Donnelly: if you run a business and it’s not making money …then move on and try something else.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:28 AM

    @Ibhar Mac Suibhne: You know nothing about climate and CO2 in atmosphere. Read that ya modern ignorant :

    https://medium.com/@caroline.stocks/debunking-the-methane-myth-why-cows-arent-responsible-for-climate-change-23926c63f2c0

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:34 AM

    @Mary Webb: Coming back from Waterford during the summer I was stuck behind a tractor pulling a load of manure collected from a field he rented to graze cattle. It took 15 minutes to drive 5km at which point he turned off presumably to go back to farm yard who knows how much further away. That’s a lot of time (read money) and fuel (also read money) wasted because farmers are operating inefficient businesses. Just ensuring farms were contiguous would be a huge step forward.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:37 AM

    @Donal Russell: How many jobs do ya think there would be around rural Ireland for middle aged men and women who has farmed all there lives and then decide to go out in the workforce its just not has simple as that and clowns like you who think it is have not a clue. Its a way of life many and farming has been the backbone of this country for years and its being destroyed by greed.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:25 PM

    @Donal Russell: not that easy I would think. Many of these farmers have spend their lifetime building up herds as instructed by Teagasc & EU. They can’t just turn around all at the same time & say I’m doing something else. Firstly, it would cost them money to get rid of their herd at which they would be immediately in debt because they would not get a price to cover the cost of raising the herd, then no bank would give them credit to start something else because they’d already be in debt & then you’d have a mountain of meat at once without the consumption demand so a lot of it would go to waste. If they just walk away from their loss making business,what happens to the animals; they slowly starve? The fields,hedges grow wild? How about just a law to stop below cost buying? We need farming

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:40 PM

    @Mary Webb: “humanely produced Irish meat”? What’s humanely means?

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:42 PM

    @Darren Byrne: In your great wisdom tell us all how to ensure farms were contiguous ?
    Would you stop the Gov placing compulsory purchase of their land ?
    Would you forced farmers to sell land to other farmers and vice versa ?

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    Nov 27th 2019, 1:34 PM

    @Mary Webb: humanely. Funniest word of the day when talking about the meat industry. Don’t they all die in the end?

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    Nov 27th 2019, 1:48 PM

    @Gowon Geter: well for one you could get rid of the no inheritance tax on farm land as long it stays in use. It incentivises people who do not want to farm to hold on to it and rent it out. Change it so that the no tax only applies if they themselves are actively farming it or if they sell it to an active farm adjoining the land. This could also help cut down on the excessive amount of small country roads that have to be maintained.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 5:02 PM

    @Darren Byrne: Rubbish , you need to recheck the laws

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    Nov 27th 2019, 5:12 PM

    @Darren Byrne: it’s only days since I read an article about farmers driving tractors too fast! Christ you townies can’t be kept happy! And if you’ve got a better idea of what they can do with the manure we’re all ears.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 5:50 PM
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    Nov 27th 2019, 8:15 PM

    @Darren Byrne: most farmers are doing what you say but when factories can decide everything from shape, size, age, weight, grade and price what chance has the farmer? There is actually plenty of money in beef only not for the producer.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:42 AM

    They were all off doing pub crawls last night around the area when RTE turned it’s camera off, laughing & joking with not a worry in the world while the expensive machinery blocked the streets.. Also stayed in the best accommodation over night. So no I don’t support the farmers “protest”

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:42 AM

    @David: So David…. Farmers who struggle to get a living wage are painting the lavish Dublin town red in a reckless, debauched display of wild extravagant.. ??? ..Forgive me, but I need to push my ribs back in from the laughter….But rest assured, Ireland’s idiot ‘politique’ is held much tighter by it’s resident lunatics and clowns , a concept that you are already well aware, given obvious talents in that field..

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:13 PM

    @David: so are we to assume the man in the photo just climbed back into his tractor to pretend he slept there over night?

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    Mute Gowon Geter
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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:45 PM

    @David: People like would not last one week working on a farm ?

    Where the fck do u stay when you away from home, do you stay in a tent ?

    So show the evidence that all farmers who stayed in the best accommodation ?

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    Mute John McLarney
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:21 AM

    Are we all forgetting here that the government just spent 1.5millon on a printer that will end up costing more and more each week.
    I support the farmers as there only looking for a fair price for there hard work. (Correct me if I’m wrong but they went on strike over pay)
    Do people think that the luas drivers work harder then a farmer. Fair play to them we have turned into a nation of talkers and they are the only ones who are standing up to the government and the fat cats. So we as a nation should take a leaf out of there books and start standing up and being counted for…..

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    Mute jimmyd123
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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:48 AM

    We the people, have been supporting thr farmers for the last 50 plus years. Throught susidieses from Irish tax payers and EU grants. The farmers have the most expensive well paid union, the IFA. If you have a probem with the beef manufactories? just dont supply for a couple of weeks and they will soon be back to you. In any free market you get what the market pays you for your product, When beef prices are high we never hear of the farmers giving back money.

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    Mute Seamus Murphy
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    Nov 27th 2019, 5:18 PM

    @jimmyd123: and you get it all back in cheap food prices.

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    Mute Del Bear
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:02 AM

    They’re taking out their anger on hundreds of thousands of innocent people and as a result will completely alienate themselves from public support which will be critical in helping them achieve their aims.
    I’m a blow-in from the countryside myself, living in Dublin a long time now and my father is a farmer so I am understanding to their plight but I do not support this type of action, particularly when the IFA is such a shambolic organisation, handing out massive payments at the expense of the everyday farmer. If I was a farmer, it’s that crowd I’d be directing my anger at, they’re on massive money and consistently letting the regular farmer Joe down!

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    Mute Seamus Murphy
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    Nov 27th 2019, 5:21 PM

    @Del Bear: you’re dead right about the IFA. The reason farmers are in Dublin protesting is because of poor and non existent representation of their interests by these farming bodies.

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    Mute Tommy C
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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:37 AM

    If this was happening in any other city in the country nobody but local media would be talking about it. But because National Media are really Dublin media with an added sometimes annoying extra responsibility we all know how hard it is this morning to live in Dublin and have to deal with people exercising their democratic right in the most effectual place. Everyone’s talking, everyone has an opinion, good job there farmers, and good job there too by the media. Farmers and media helping make news for centuries

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    Mute Shazam37
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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:39 AM

    @Tommy C: Absolute bilge. Whether you like it or not dublin is the economic centre of the country. The vast majority of FdR which we depend on to survive is based here. Of course blocking the city up is going to be national news in a way Athlone wouldn’t be.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:41 AM

    @Shazam37: if you build it and keep building it only gets bigger. Building our way to an unfair future. There, the new moto

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    Mute Chris Judge
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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:50 AM

    @Tommy C: Apart from the chip on your shoulder, what’s your point?

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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:55 AM

    @Chris Judge: my point was made. You’re own chip may be getting in the way of you seeing it

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    Mute Tom Burke
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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:46 AM

    The producer is in dispute with the processor so the producer disrupts the life of the PAYE workers/end users whose taxes help pay the grants the producers get while the processor ignores the producer. Makes sense!!!!

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    Mute DERRY1973
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:25 AM

    @Tom Burke: and what’s your solution Tom? , incase you don’t remember this is a on going problem which has not been sorted, looks to me they farmer’s are left with no choice.

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    Mute William Mcgee
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:05 AM

    Farmers seeking support from the public by making people stand in the rain waiting for a lift home from work . Not many hungry farmers around today , unlike the people that are hungry and sleeping in doorways . Farmers do not believe in paying for anything , only waiting for the grants and the cheque from europe .

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    Mute Do the Bort man
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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:16 PM

    @William Mcgee: the irony is that you are the main beneficiary of these EU Subsidies through cheaper food in supermarkets. Maybe educate your self as to how CAP Subsidies work.

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    Mute Rochelle
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:05 AM

    It seems like every other week farmers are protesting over something and they’ve been claiming their profession to be unsustainable for the past 10 years. I don’t think anyone will believe them unless we start seeing a shortage of Irish meat and vegetables in supermarkets.
    Of course the same farmers who will almost exclusively vote for FG or FF anyway since they’re terrified of green policies.

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    Mute Perlum Sprite
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:21 AM

    I support their right to protest, and although I’m unaffected by it in my neck of the woods, I don’t support blocking up a city and denying others the right to make a living right before Xmas – or any other time.

    I’d have no problems, in lieu of recent threats to bring the city to a standstill becoming a reality, if the tractors were seized and impounded – just like any other citizen blocking up the roads with their vehicle.

    Nothing to stop by them protesting on foot.

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    Mute Gowon Geter
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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:52 PM

    @Perlum Sprite: Oh right, and have you the same issue with Cyclists blocking streets ?

    They are protesting for their right to make a living .. and every person working in the private sector should support them, as its age old battle between the individual and big business.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:08 PM

    @Gowon Geter: workers earning minimum wage or just above in the private sector don’t expect the government to get involved in setting prices for the products they produce.

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    Mute Noel O Sullivan
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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:25 AM

    If you arent making money do something else.
    Beef prices are down everywhere and people are moving away from beef and other meat products.

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    Mute Larry Whelan
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:18 AM

    The people that produce our food are being screwed by the big boys.We produce world class products and our Producers must get a fair price.

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    Mute Louise Hannon Fotos
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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:36 AM

    If this was a housing or water charge protest the protesters would be dragged off the streets and charged. Particularly for obstructing traffic. Why are farmers not being charged? I think we all know why but this is one law for one section of society and another law for others. The law should apply equally to all

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:20 PM

    @Louise Hannon Fotos: because they have the keys to the tractors!

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:57 PM

    @Louise Hannon Fotos: Where the Cyclists or Climate people dragged of the streets ? no they were not and infact they still allowed to camp in Merrion Sq

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    Mute Charlie
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:25 AM

    No I don’t support them there’s no such thing as a poor farmer.

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    Mute Helen Farrell
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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:09 AM

    I agree with them in one sense – workers deserve a fair price for their produce, and they absolutely should fight for this. However I’m mystified as to why farmers feel entitled to their livelihood, over all other ways to earn a living? It is a job, like any other. City folks didn’t protest and demand that they be subsidised and allowed continue their trades. People from rural Ireland were assisted and subsidised by the state (and ALL taxpayers) to purchase their land. So now their descendants own the land. People in cities were not supported in this way to purchase their homes. It’s an historical fact in how our State prioritised the way of life of farmers, but I don’t understand why they have such a hostile attitude to urban folks as evidenced last night on the snippet on RTE.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:55 PM

    @Helen Farrell: But they block streets when they want free cycle lanes dont they ?

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    Mute Eamonn O Connell
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    Nov 28th 2019, 12:38 AM

    @Helen Farrell: how many corporation houses were built during the 70s and 80s in Dublin and sold at knockdown prices to their tenants so yes people were subsidized in Dublin to buy houses

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    Mute Clancy
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:22 AM

    Loss making business. Farmers are destroying the environment to produce beef at below cost and are subsidised to do it. Madness.
    Better to leave the land fallow and pay them dole.

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:08 AM

    A heavily government funded industry has an internal argument on prices. So one side goes and blocks people from going to work and getting on with their lives. People not involved in the dispute
    Seems a very unreasonable way to conduct business.
    What do we want,more money, who pays it, we dont care. Seems to be the attitude.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:29 AM

    @Gary Kearney: heavily funded so you can buy cheap food, farmers would prefer no subsidy and get a fair price. But the beef barons get richer and the beef farmer gets poorer. Its as simple as that.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:54 PM

    @Gary Kearney: But you have no issue with Cyclists blocking roads ?

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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:06 PM

    @DERRY1973: not all of us eat beef nor care to subsidise it either.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:38 AM

    At this stage I’m going down the “anything that damages the government” route. When I say government I mean Fine Gael and their partners Fianna Fáil. They take our taxes, waste them and snuggle up to each other for four years in a confidence and supply arrangement. Let me clarify what confidence and supply means I’m simple terms. If Fianna Fáil agree with the government they vote with them. If they don’t they abstain. What that leads to is an unchallenged government. They can do as they wish and nobody can stop them. That is not how a democracy works.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:41 AM

    Why don’t the farmers cancel there fancy sky tv packages, reduce the data allowance on their mobiles phones, stop drinking fancy coffee, shop in the sales, use public transport and then they could save that money to cover the cost they are losing!!! Regards FFG

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    Mute Nuala
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    Nov 27th 2019, 1:34 PM

    @Full Circle: you’re confusing personal salary with business income. Also, when I see Bus Eireann town service or a train coming down a lane, then the option of public transport might be feasible

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    Mute Reuben Gray
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    Nov 28th 2019, 9:15 AM

    @Full Circle: Hmm let’s see about this one….
    fancy sky tv packages – Sky is fancy now?
    reduce the data allowance on their mobiles phones – Most don’t even have a signal
    stop drinking fancy coffee – Where are they buying fancy coffee? Local shop across the field?
    shop in the sales – What shops?
    use public transport – Is that a rhetorical question?

    My wife’s family are dry cattle farmers in West Cork. They earn barely above social welfare. The only reason her dad hasn’t retired is he just wouldn’t know what else to do with himself. He’d probably have as much of an income on the state pension.

    The price he gets for cattle barely covers the cost of raising it and certainly doesn’t cover his time if you were put a value on that.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:04 PM

    We should join them….

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    Mute papercutgirl
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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:07 PM

    I support that the farmers deserve fair prices, but they also need to realise that they cant expect to keep running things the same way forever. Small holding farms are inefficient, meat consumption at it’s current rate is unsustainable (though it’s terrible farmers are the only ones not making moeny). I dont mind disruption to traffic, I’m all for protests that inconvenience people.

    I started out supporting the farmers until I saw the protest itself. The posters were full of demonstrably false claims and several had left their tractors parked and engines on, spewing diesel fumes into the air for no reason. That to me just shows that they really dont understand the conversation that’s happening around them or they are not willing to do so.

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    Mute Gowon Geter
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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:59 PM

    @papercutgirl: Oh so only efficient things should be supported ? ok then, then this Gov should not be supported, the Health Services should not be supported, the Civil Service should be sacked ……

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    Mute Colm O'Leary
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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:40 PM

    I’m so sick of farmers bleating about beef prices. Wake up! Nobody wants your beef. That’s why your not getting a good price for it! Go home and reduce the size of your beef herds and you may have a chance. You’ve produced a glut of beef. You need to produce less of it and then come back. Roaring like rabble at the minister for agriculture isn’t going to win you any friends. I want to say this to everyone! You don’t speak for rural Ireland! I live in rural Ireland and I can assure you that there’s more to rural Ireland than a pair of wellington soaked in cow manure. All my family were farmers but that generation is now basically dead. Not one of their children are now farmers. YOU need to change! Screaming at someone else and blaming them for your own deficiencies doesn’t work!

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    Mute muirhill121
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    Nov 27th 2019, 3:12 PM

    @Colm O’Leary: Colm, it’s nothing to do with a glut of beef. The issue is that too little of the retail price is paid to the primary producer.

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    Nov 27th 2019, 7:08 PM

    @muirhill121: glut or not the fact is that nobody wants what they’re producing! You can’t just force people to pay more for something that you make. They are like kids holding their breath until they get their own way!

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    Mute drewbedo
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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:39 PM

    Breathalyse them before they leave. Guarantee government get few quid off them. Not like that can’t afford it anyway

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    Mute Gowon Geter
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    Nov 27th 2019, 1:00 PM

    @drewbedo: clown, maybe they should Breathalyse the Dail ?

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    Mute Football in the Groin
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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:33 PM

    The only people against it are the precious little boys and girls being delayed on their way to their cosey offices so they can trawl Facebook and Twitter all day while sipping their cosmos. Wouldn’t know a hard days work if it bit them on the ar$e.

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    Mute RoisinSheridan#focus
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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:33 PM

    Absolutely with the farmers. Shame on you anyone who gave control to Goodman etc

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    Mute Karllye kripton
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:23 AM

    Like Really ,, Were the Fcuk do people think food comes form , you need food you don’t need a new fcukin tv

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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:08 PM

    @Karllye kripton: but we don’t need our environment destroyed in the process

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    Mute Peter Cuthbert
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    Nov 27th 2019, 9:49 AM

    You wonder how the protest will impact on the local elections on Friday ,will some vote on party lines or possibly abstain

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    Mute Donal Desmond
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    Nov 27th 2019, 1:19 PM

    Certainly support the protest by farmers. Vast majority of farmers would be supporters of FFG,but for them to make this type of protest just goes to show how this government has put bug business before the concerns of it’s citizens. Another point while supporting the farmers… had this type of protest been held by people protesting against homelessness, Crumbling health service would the powers that be allow the blocking of streets overnight and the disruption this protest has caused. Think Not. Well done to the farmers protesting ye certainly have rattled Leo and his cohorts.

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    Mute Peter
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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:57 AM

    Pain in the udders but they’ve gotta do it.

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    Mute Gowon Geter
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    Nov 27th 2019, 1:01 PM

    100% with this Farmers Protest. Anyone who stands up to this corrupt FG Gov gets my vote

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    Mute Charles McCarthy
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    Nov 27th 2019, 1:49 PM

    I agree with their method, shysters in Dublin just won’t listen irrespective of what the grievance is. Most of us have issues we would like to see addressed but the bucks in the dail have become too powerful. They are put there to serve the people not Shaft the people. Other groups need to take note.

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    Mute Paul Howard
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    Nov 27th 2019, 3:52 PM

    Larry Goodman is to blame for the state the beef industry is in and should have got jail time after the BEEF tribunal.

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    Mute martobaby
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    Nov 27th 2019, 1:30 PM

    Shower of bully boys !

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    Mute moneymaid
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    Nov 27th 2019, 10:42 AM

    I hit no in error.
    I do support the farmers but not their disrupting Dublin City Centre.

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    Mute WoodlandBard
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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:56 AM

    I support the farmers, but the outcry of them blocking the street? Here in Rural Ireland, tractors are blocking the roads every day. Often just to stop and chat with each other, and hold the traffic up.

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    Mute Thomas Carty
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    Nov 27th 2019, 3:41 PM

    Irish farming has to be made viable and not grant dependant. From this angle we need to negotiate out of global agreements that prevent that without hurting our trading partners.

    The EU can’t and won’t prop up agriculture forever.

    Aontú are helping start the talks to make this happen. Their work with Joe Campbell and the other Independent Farmers led to the Beef Bill currently before the Dáil.

    We need more of this for all other farming sectors, working towards viability without need for subsidies.

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    Mute Katherine McCormack Hyland
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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:45 PM

    I mean if you ate today…thank a farmer!

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    Mute Katherine McCormack Hyland
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    Nov 27th 2019, 11:44 PM

    Farmers work so hard, but don’t get a fair price for their products.
    If you are today, thank a farmer. Food shortages on the way if this situation continues…

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    Mute Seriously stunned
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    Nov 27th 2019, 12:28 PM

    Yes because it’s in Dublin

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    Mute Misty Eyed Mutton
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    Nov 27th 2019, 8:23 PM

    Yes they should protest. No they shouldn’t burn so much oil to make their point. Maybe chain themselves to a railing the next time.

    I think the government and representative bodies should provide more assistance and incentives to get out of livestock. Cheap meat is on the way out over the long term. I would love to see more enterprise in farming and less dependence on industry support. Easier said than done I’m but there must be ways that are profitable and climate friendly.

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    Mute Paul O Faolain
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    Nov 27th 2019, 5:03 PM

    Lock them up,shower of toasters

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    Mute Finbar Reburn
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    Nov 28th 2019, 11:43 PM

    Our langstand gripe with the Irish beef processors have legitimised themselves from a background history of cattle rustling and cattle smuggling in the border region.It was never in their physic to pay full market price for livestock at anything let alone now.
    Thugs In Suits Masquerading As Nobleman.
    Lock Them Up.

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    Mute Leo Bissett
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    Nov 28th 2019, 9:30 PM

    I’m a Dub and fully supported the farmers. They are the heartbeat of Rural Ireland

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