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Eoghan Murphy saved and Christmas election off the table as no confidence motion defeated

The motion was defeated by three votes.

THE MOTION OF no confidence in Housing Minister Eoghan Murphy was defeated tonight by 56 to 53 votes. There were 35 abstentions. 

Fianna Fáil abstained from the vote, while TDs Michael Lowry, Noel Grealish and former minister Denis Naughten voted with the government. 

Following the results of the vote being announced, Sinn Féin called for a walk-through vote, where the vote is carried out again by TDs walking through the ‘yes’ and ‘no’ doors of the Dáil, instead of voting manually (as is done in the UK’s House of Commons).

The result of this vote was the same: 56 votes to 53.

During a debate on the motion, before the vote tabled by the Social Democrats, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said the “motion tonight will not pass. It was never going to pass. It was a stunt”.

He accused the Social Democrats of using it to “get precious airtime on TV” around the time of a by-election.

Varadkar said the government has embarked on the largest social housing building programme in its history. However, the Taoiseach admitted that the latest homeless stats are “terrible and shameful”.

The motion of no confidence came on the same day the latest homeless figures were released. For the first time, homeless figures have increased to over 10,500.

The Department of Housing released homeless figures for October, indicating that there were 10,514 individuals homeless. That’s an increase of 117 on September’s figures, which Minister for Housing Eoghan Murphy said “was expected following the introduction of new emergency beds in the Dublin region recently”.

There was a decrease of 23 families and 47 children in emergency accommodation.

The Simon Communities said that there’s been an overall increase of 8.1% since October 2018, when the figure was 9,724.

During tonight’s debate, the Minister Eoghan Murphy defended his record and rounded on Róisín Shortall from the Social Democrats stating that she has spoken out against housing developments in her own locality. 

“Rebuilding Ireland is working,” he said. However, many opposition TDs disagreed with this statement. 

Sinn Fein’s Mary Lou McDonald said Fianna Fáil are in government with Fine Gael, and shown that tonight by sitting on their hands and abstaining. 

She said the government is out of touch, stating that children wait for Santa in hotels and family hubs, while others pay €2,000 in rent each month.

Alternative solutions are needed, “not spin and bull” she told the Taoiseach. 

Labour Jan O’Sullivan, a previous housing minister, said she was under the Troika. But when the government money was available they put down social housing projects that have not been built under Fine Gael in government because of its policy of allowing private developers build on public land. 

Fianna Fáil’s Darragh O’Brien called the motion a “cynical manoeuvre” by the Social Democrats. He told the Dáil that voting no confidence in the minister would defacto bring down the government before Christmas. 

“We have put the country first before narrow party political gain,” said O’Brien.

Going down a more obscure road this evening, Meath TD Shane Cassells brought up the movie Love Actually in the Dáil. 

Reading out lines from the movie and highlighting the exchange between Billy Bob Thornton and Hugh Grant where Grant says the relationship has turned bad. 

Cassells said nights like to tonight “make us look at our relationship”. He says Fine Gael has failed in its housing policy. However, McDonald later questioned why Fianna Fáil was sitting on its hands if it disagreed with the government’s housing policies. 

Solidarity-People Before Profit and Rise TD Paul Murphy criticised Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil as “landlord” parties, and compared Murphy to Boris Johnson.

“At what figure of homelessness do you think it would be ok to stop?” Independent TD Catherine Connolly asked. “What figure would make you see reality?”

Earlier this evening, a government spokesperson said that had tonight’s motion of no confidence passed in Eoghan Murphy, the government could not continue. 

He said tonight’s vote, was a “proxy vote” in the Taoiseach and the government, hinting that an election could be marked in for 28 December.

Tonight’s motion is not the first motion of no confidence Murphy has faced. 

In September 2018, a motion of no confidence tabled by Sinn Féin was defeated by 59 to 49 votes. There were 29 abstentions on the night. 

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    Mute Gerry Corbett
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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:29 PM

    35 abstentions, says it all, these people have no place in political life
    The looking after no 1 club

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:37 PM

    @Gerry Corbett: Fianna Fáil no place in Political life!

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:51 PM

    @Gerry Corbett: It would have been higher had they not brought back Enda Kenny, Michael Noonan and John Deasy. Very easy to forget they’re still members since they haven’t been seen in years.
    Naturally they still receive the full salary since turning up for work isn’t a requirement as a TD.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:20 PM

    @Rochelle: rotten to the core

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:53 PM

    @Gerry Corbett:
    Where is the gain for FF ?

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    Dec 4th 2019, 3:44 AM

    @Gino Brancato: They get to pick the time of the next election themselves. After all, it is party first, then individuals. Based on this vote tonight, their Galway tent developers will be sigh with relief and gratitude.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 9:51 AM

    @ObsidianShine: but the gombeens still vote for them. We live in a corrupt rotten so called Republic. Time to start again i think.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 5:58 PM

    @Keith Mac Suibhne: I’m not sure you know what a “gombeen” is.

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    Dec 6th 2019, 1:34 AM

    @Gerry Corbett: As you see from the comments above, and probably below. The housing crisis is just not that much of concern for people that are lucky enough to have a home this Xmas! and have stopped caring about there fellow Humans, Friends, Neighbours and Family, who are not so lucky to have their own Home this Xmas. Whether they’re in Direct provision, Family Hub, Hotel, B&B, Hostel, Couch surfing, Living with parent well into adulthood!(me) Or very sadly for various reasons those now called rough sleepers with, Mental Health Issues, Addiction Issues, abandonment Issues or just falling through the cracks of our clearly broken society! They won’t have a home this Xmas.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:24 PM

    Expected no less. Shameful carry on by FF

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:30 PM

    @Hoomanbean: Michael splinter arse martin

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:38 PM

    @Hoomanbean: Disgusting shameful cowardice from Fianna Fáil.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:09 PM

    @Hoomanbean: I grew up in the 80s and 90s…..and the kids on my road who are now adults had the same opportunities as I did…….my family busted their balls off ……as did we……they are now homeless “”"”" to lazy to work…….I am almost homeless trying to pay a mortgage…….but I’ve cut my cloth.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:31 PM

    @Conor Kleaver: The elf on the shelf has nothing on Michael.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:35 PM

    @John Joe Bridie: what self righteous clap trap

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:55 PM

    @Hoomanbean:
    What would a FF vote do for the homeless?

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:02 AM

    @Hoomanbean: 1937-1948 FF
    1948-1951 FG
    1951-1954 FF
    1954- 1957 FG
    1957-1973 FF
    1973-1977 FG
    1977-1981 FF
    1981- 1982-FG
    1982-1982(November). FF
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    1987-1992 FF
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    Because elections mean nothing in this country unfortunately

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:27 AM

    @John Joe Bridie: !!!

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    Dec 4th 2019, 1:30 AM

    @my name: In this country? have a look around it’s the same nearly everywhere, Republicans/Democrats. Tories/Labour. Liberal/Labour. Every developed country has 2 main parties

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:05 AM

    @John Joe Bridie: what a paragon of virtue you are!

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:40 AM

    @John Joe Bridie: *too lazy to work. Seems like you didn’t work hard enough when you were in school.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:35 PM

    FF FG two cheeks of the same back side. And people still vote them in time and time again

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:16 PM

    @Emmett Currie: There should be a limit on the number of abstentions allowed in one Dáil.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:21 PM

    @Emmett Currie: crazy shit altogether

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    Dec 6th 2019, 1:35 AM

    @Emmett Currie: As you see from the comments above, and probably below. The housing crisis is just not that much of concern for people that are lucky enough to have a home this Xmas! and have stopped caring about there fellow Humans, Friends, Neighbours and Family, who are not so lucky to have their own Home this Xmas. Whether they’re in Direct provision, Family Hub, Hotel, B&B, Hostel, Couch surfing, Living with parent well into adulthood!(me) Or very sadly for various reasons those now called rough sleepers with, Mental Health Issues, Addiction Issues, abandonment Issues or just falling through the cracks of our clearly broken society! They won’t have a home this Xmas.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:37 PM

    158 TDs elected yet only 144 TDs voted. Absence of 9% for a very important vote. Not good enough

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:59 PM

    @Kev M: they will probably claim expenses for turning up

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    Dec 4th 2019, 9:11 AM

    @Kev M: I think these were “paired” votes where TDs abstain for someone who cannot make it. These TDs are in the dail, but do not vote, so the expense question is not relevant.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:44 PM

    Uncomfortable actions from FF tonight, there was no excuse with the confidence agreement or even Brexit to hide behind here and showed what can only be seen as open faced support for FG’s housing policy.
    This Dáil doesn’t represent the public and the disconnect was clear tonight. We all must do better at the general election.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:27 PM

    This is a joke, he has had no progress since office. Introducing a flawed help to buy scheme and partnering with the local councils if riddles with bureaucracy and incompetent people and processes. Absolute sham

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:13 PM

    @Craig Osborne: that is the truest statment I read all week

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    Dec 6th 2019, 1:36 AM

    @Craig Osborne: As you see from the comments above, and probably below. The housing crisis is just not that much of concern for people that are lucky enough to have a home this Xmas! and have stopped caring about there fellow Humans, Friends, Neighbours and Family, who are not so lucky to have their own Home this Xmas. Whether they’re in Direct provision, Family Hub, Hotel, B&B, Hostel, Couch surfing, Living with parent well into adulthood!(me) Or very sadly for various reasons those now called rough sleepers with, Mental Health Issues, Addiction Issues, abandonment Issues or just falling through the cracks of our clearly broken society! They won’t have a home this Xmas.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:31 PM

    There are no words.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:56 PM

    @UCC Social Democrats: I can think of a few but they’re not all safe to print.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:43 PM

    @UCC Social Democrats: Captive market – you are welcome

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    Dec 4th 2019, 1:00 AM

    @UCC Social Democrats: I have few. Soc dems will not win more than 2 seats at the next GE. Nothing party

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    Dec 4th 2019, 2:15 AM

    @Joe: And FF will lose more seats in the next election as they pander to FG, also a nothing party, but one that destroyed the country and should never be voted for again!

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:32 PM

    Shame on FF for abstaining

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:56 PM

    @Pauline Cahill: Both of these Centre Right Parties may as well officially amalgamate at this stage. They are one in all, but name.

    At least then they wouldn’t have to out shout each other when sticking up a fat middle finger to poor people.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:28 PM

    @UCC Social Democrats: you can add sf to that list. Another party that accepts the market and operates as little more than a liberal pressure group trying to soften the blows. Oh for a genuine and effective Left in Ireland

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:45 PM

    If everyone could register their rage at the Ballot Box at the next available opportunity, we would have an Ireland for all.

    Check the register here https://www.checktheregister.ie/PublicPages/Default.aspx?uiLang=

    All persons not registered to vote can email their local council for a Freepost form to register. Cork County Council do a fantastic one!! More help here

    https://www.vote.ie/register/

    Turn this FFG Housing Policy on its head, and give +4,000 Children a bed.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:03 AM

    @UCC Social Democrats: The poor people. The same people who would not get off the bar stool ?

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:25 PM

    And Jesus Wept

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:31 PM

    It’s time for FF to get off their hands and see this government out. They are whitling away any support they have.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:04 AM

    @Daniel Kelly: Will you vote for FF when get off their hands?

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:26 PM

    Not Just yet, Sinfein have requested a second vote by non electronic means

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:33 PM

    @Mark: fucuk healy rae was in portloaise

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:00 AM

    @Mark: That is a surprise. Sinn Fein abhor votes, particularly when it comes to leadership elections.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:09 AM

    @Gino Brancato: nothing to do with FF lack of spine……

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:38 PM

    If we had any sense this would be the end of both FF and FG next year but our electorate is insane by definition.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:40 PM

    @Keith O’Reilly: yeah SF all the way!

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:30 PM

    @Kev Kev: have SF rejected the free market? News to me if they have. No different from the others. Tinkering with edges, nothing more

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:06 AM

    @Kev Kev: To where? A United Shangri La?

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:48 PM

    Oh I can’t wait for ff to come to my door

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:52 PM

    @Marty Lawless: Just abstain from opening the door, they’ll understand.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:09 AM

    @Marty Lawless:
    Is that why you wanted them to precipitate a general election before Christmas?

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:47 PM

    There is no difference between Fianna Fail and Fine Gael.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:45 PM

    @Wade Wilson:

    Https://www.vote.ie/register/

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:26 PM

    What a spineless pusillanimous Dail we have

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:50 PM

    I’m sorry now but this has to be the last straw…they are literally laughing all the way to the bank..are the people who keep voting for and supporting these slime balls actually think they are doing a good job to the best of there abilities..for Christmas they’ll be fine dined on the deaths and tears of the people of this country suffering because of these actions..i honestly can’t get my head around how they haven’t been dragged out on to the streets and flogged!!

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:17 PM

    @Craig Clancy: because as a people we are lazy, we don’t go to streets and tell these c,-”ts we’ve had enough and kick them out with no pensions

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:10 AM

    @Craig Clancy: any other country and there would be a revolution by now

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:34 PM

    Spineless everyone of them

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:59 PM

    Just goes to show the level of corruption is still rife in Leinster house!! They’re all laughing out at us from behind those closed doors!!

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:33 PM

    This government is a farce,shame on the lot of them.the brass neck and arrogance on Fine Gael in this latest crises.fine fail should be made vote,they knew well by abstaining that this sham of a government will continue onto the next crises,they have used brexit as a excuse for no elections for over a year now,the bloody British are having an election right now,why can’t we.its so frustrating

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:36 PM

    @dick dastardly: we will only end up with either of or fg again anyway so probably doesn’t even matter….

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:37 PM

    @Kev Kev: FF or FG….

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:39 PM

    @Kev Kev: I agree with you.anyone that votes ff/fg labour in the next election needs to have a good chat with themselves

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:45 PM

    @dick dastardly: yup! Sf is the only option next time round it seems… . We have hit rock bottom so they can’t get much worse

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    Dec 4th 2019, 8:39 AM

    @dick dastardly: FF are only interested in party first if they thought they had the numbers to form the next Government Murphy’s goose would have been cooked shame on them

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:59 PM

    Ff might as well have voted with FG.they are equally responsible and need to be removed at the next voting opportunity.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:12 AM

    @paul gurney: Would you vote for FF in the Gen Election if they had voted against Murphy tonight?

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:26 PM

    They’re re-doing it now. Non-electronically this time

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:38 PM

    Surprise ,surprise cowardly bunch of self serving basdarts

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:00 PM

    Loving the journals censoring bot, say anything against our political class and its perceived as toxic- incredible work by the young blueshirts who run the comments section here, luckily though the blueshirts and fianna fraud are slowly being found out by the electorate. GET THEM OUT!

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:24 PM

    Shame on Fianna Fáil

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:36 PM

    Eoghan murphy has proven to be a force to be reckoned with, a great minister who successfully is combating the housing crisis. This was a political stunt and this was a waste if time.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:05 PM

    @Socky Varadkar: The political stunt was the abstention of the F.F. party that facilitated the gangsterism of the banks and developers and brought this country to it’s knees. The same party that now keep in power the Blueshirts who only added to the mess .The pox and the plague is an apt name for these two parties.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:39 PM

    @Socky Varadkar: if he’s so bloody good why did he only win the vote by 3 votes?

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:46 PM

    Everyone who abstained is a disgrace and shame on the cowards. I personally feel that minister Murphy has failed and should resign as his handling of this homeless crisis is and has been awful.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:32 PM

    @Ciaran Burke: his handling of housing has been exemplary. Probably FG most successful Minister.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:32 PM

    @Ciaran Burke: if a sense of shame still existed for these people, he would. But it doesn’t. They have moved beyond it

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:22 AM

    @Shazam37: pwaha

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:38 AM

    @Shazam37: excuse me. They have missed the build targets last year and the year before. What is needed is social housing not more private. Nothing has been done to reduce rent from the ridiculous rates they are at. If you think he is doing a good job my friend you will find yourself in the minority because he is not doing enough. I. Any job if you fail to reach your targets you are dismissed. He has consistently failed to reach them and should resign. His policies are not working and quite frankly he is incompetent. He should resign or be moved to a portfolio better suited to him.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 1:02 AM

    @Ciaran Burke: He was able to swat Matt Cooper off handily enough tonight on the tonight show. Fair play to him for not saying the unsayable. That 40% of the homeless in Dublin are foreign nationals.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:35 PM

    @Ciaran Burke: so those are your criteria for him to do his job well. But you don’t set the criteria for the job do you? Who does? And what are they? Are they written down somewhere?

    FG are a neoliberal, free market capitalist party – predominantly supported by landlords, landowners and the wealthy.

    House prices through the roof. Banks profitable. Investment funds getting rich. Solicitors doing well from commercial property. Johnny Ronan back all guns blazing. Rents sky high.

    Those are FG priorities – and look! All met with room to spare. Murphy is doing an outstanding job.

    See the problem is you think they are actually trying to fix the “housing crisis”. They aren’t. Quite the opposite. They’re one of the root causes of it. But their voters are happy.

    You’ve spent too long listening to politicians and not nearly enough time watching what they actually DO.

    First thing – learn what the parties actually stand for by watching what they do. Then every time they speak – assume they’re lying and compare their actions to their words.

    You’ll get closer to the truth that way. If you think he’s failing then you don’t understand the political parties.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 4:03 PM

    @Shazam37: He has failed to reach his targets consistently, how is he doing a excellent job? Go outside and talk to the homeless ask them if he is doing a good job as the anyone outside do you think he is doing a good job. I am aware of where FG are on the spectrum and their policies I have not just listened I have watched I am knowledgeable about politics both, national and abroad. He may be an excellent minister by FG standards however he is sub par by actual standards and considering the poll today on the journal with 70% disapproving of him as minister.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:23 PM

    And so the housing crisis continues

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:04 PM

    Disgusted

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:30 PM

    I think there was something in cassells water tonight,couldn’t sit still for a minute forever fidgeting and then that awful waffle about Billy Bob Thornton.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:38 PM

    @Ananya Sharma: Cassells is a joke.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:45 PM

    So the Blueshirts depended upon a racist and an embezzler! Some moral compass

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:56 PM

    As a proud Irish man this makes very sad…

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:41 PM

    Hit F.F. at the polls guys they are really no better then Leo the LIAR SHAME on Fianna Fail and Micky Mehole

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:15 AM

    @Aishling Carslake: And if FF had voted against you would encourage to give them your undying love ? Feck off.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:45 PM

    No surprise there

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:55 PM

    Shame on FF for ever

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:28 PM

    Standing order 73, did not know that was there to be called on.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:27 PM

    A motion of o confidence in a specific minister should not result in a general election, it should result in the Taoiseach having to nominate someone else for the role. The “all or nothing” nature of confidence motions is a major obstacle preventing the Oireachtas from holding the cabinet to account – individual ministers should serve subject to the agreement of the Oireachtas without it being a matter of either supporting every individual minister or bringing the entire government down. The Oireachtas should be able to demand the sacking of an individual minister by majority vote in either house without necessitating a general election.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:39 PM

    @Patrick FitzGerald: spot on

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:27 AM

    @Patrick FitzGerald:
    If Varadkar was any good he would have removed Murphy of the Housing Portfolio long ago.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:32 PM

    This government is a f ing joke, they seem to be contented the way things are going in the country and don’t worry the sheep will vote them back in again but sure it’s all okay as long as it’s not on their doorstep, love to see them try love be on the file, sleep ruff, qué to get seen to in a hospital, have someone get a suspended sentence for a crime committed against them, things would be sure different if they were living in the real world instead of the government bubble.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:52 PM

    Varadkar describers the latest homeless figures as “shameless”. But who should be shamed? The Central Statistics Office? He is shamed. Varadkar is shamed. Forget Murphy. Varadkar has presided over Fine Gael’s ideological approach to housing which is solely based on market driven forces. The buck stops with Varadkar.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:55 AM

    I’m a lifelong FF voter who will for the first time be abstaining from voting for them in the next general election.

    I know I’m not the only FF voter who will be doing same thing.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:06 AM

    @miju irl: that’s pure bull

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:55 PM

    Until the new year. He will be out. If it was February then we would be in election mode.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:45 PM

    Well done Eoghan now get back to rebuilding Ireland

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:08 PM

    @John gaughan: into one giant whitewater rafting attraction.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:34 PM

    @Brendan Gordon: rafts? You mean exciting new opportunity for on- river accommodation

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:15 AM

    @John gaughan: I can see a brilliant career ahead of you as a comedian! Are you insane or just a FF troll?

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:04 PM

    Telling Sinn Fein they should take an oath of allegiance to the queen and go vote against Brexit (daft as hell idea) but abstain their vote in the Dail to remove a minister that has allowed ireland to become the worst place for housing in the world. Fianna Fáil you are snakes of the worst kind.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:58 PM

    I have to look at Sinn Fein Hypocrisy in all this .Their pontificating is disgusting when in the north they agreed in government to give all health workers a pay increase. lower than health workers in Scotland , England and Wales .Now all health workers strike on 18th December .British government won’t sort it as they say it’s up to a devolved government .Mary Lou McDonald and Michelle O’Neil by refusing to go back to Stormont have left all services at crisis point .The DUP are equally to blame.But the reality is Sinn Fein don’t want an assembly and are prepared to see services in the north tear apart at the seams.Mary Lou’s holier than though attitude in the Dail is stomach churning .

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:06 PM

    @Gerry Malone: what has the situation in the north to do with this at all?

    Ridiculous

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:13 PM

    @Gerry Malone: we get it your a FFG voter..

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:13 PM

    @Gerry Malone: I’m not sure if you noticed but the North is a different jurisdiction and subject to different forces and pressures to the south.Do you compare labour to labour uk and expect both to act the same?If that’s really what you took out of tonight’s vote then what a sad state of affairs with now 10,500 homeless,children suffering,non developing and families being torn apart under the pressures of living in emergency accommodation ..sad sad sad

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:14 PM

    @Shazam37: well said..

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:24 AM

    @Shazam37: Sinn Fein ? IAre there two Sinn Feins? What do you blooming think ? North or South policy is policy.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:27 AM

    @paul gurney:
    That is not what Sinn Fein espouses. Sinn Fein does not recogignise North South borders. We are all Irish and have to be treated equally. Parity of esteem etc etc etc………

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    Dec 4th 2019, 2:19 AM

    @Gino Brancato: Of course North and South will have differing policies, they are in separate countries, overall SF policy in a united ireland but that doesnt mean 1 policy alone…. jeez some people

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:12 AM

    @Gerry Malone: stop trying to deflect FFs spineless behaviour last night!

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:35 PM

    Spineless pr!ck

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:52 PM

    What the actual duck

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:05 AM

    This Man is never out of the Limelight for All the wrong reasons, just like Harris, Creed, Doherty, D’Arcy, Ross , where are we going here ?? They are all Clowns. We need Leaders in every Dpartment, we have Gobsihtes , no better description .

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    Dec 4th 2019, 8:00 AM

    @Eugene Comaskey: Its a disservice to Gobsihtes really..

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:04 PM

    TURKEY’S NEVER VOTE FOR CHRISTMAS

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:04 PM

    Told yous too cold to face “shep ” and ask them for their vote my God protect the people of Ireland from these lechers

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:18 AM

    @Top Horse Shop: who I’d Shep?

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:19 AM

    @Gus Sheridan: haha. Is,,,, who IS Shep?

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:23 PM

    Did darragh o brien have a straight face when he said we have put the country first meholes entire strategy has been based on leaving varadkar in situ so he can shoot himself in the foot so far so good

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:01 PM

    Sinn Fail party of no solutions no objectives no vision . Performance in northern Ireland is shameful and inept. To even have the audacity to voice an opinion on water thin policies beggars belief. Those getting double handouts this week will continue to support them. But alas to get anywhere they need us all on the dole .

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:17 PM

    @Colm Curran: Ah the “quick look over there” tactic…sad!!

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:21 PM

    @Simon Connolly: look over where ?? Shinner land the land of unicorns n glitter lol

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:29 PM

    @Colm Curran: what absolute drivel. Name one policy of SF and why it is “wafer thin”. Go ahead.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:32 PM

    @Shazam37: u serious lol ha ha collect ur double payment and proclaim ur love to the party of puff

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:38 PM

    @Shazam37: name ANY policy by sf that isn’t deckchairs on the titanic. Complete chancers. What’s needed is radical change. Sf trotting our policies anybody could come up with in five minutes is not my idea of radical change.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:42 PM

    @alan: if sinn fein were on the titanic they would b objecting to the use of lifeboats

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:44 AM

    @Colm Curran: Sinn Fein are a joke when it comes to votes of confidence. They have no confience in the House of Commons. Tey have no confidence in the Stormont Assembly. I suppose we will have to wait until the IRA Army tells us all what they DO have confidence in.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 7:33 AM

    @Colm Curran: mudslinging doesnt solve homelessness you belong in the dail with the rest of them.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 8:04 AM

    @Colm Curran: So you think FG are doing a good job Colm??What section of the Party do you work for??The FG BS dept works increasingly well.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 8:04 AM

    @Colm Curran: And if FG were up North there would be no peace.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 9:04 AM

    @Colm Curran: Colm you know what side your bread is buttered on as a public “slave” as you like to call it, but how long until you’re out with the begging bowl demanding pay “restoration” from your masters. You’re a public servant to people on the dole also, not sure you should be publicly making a tool of yourself.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:17 AM

    @Colm Curran: stop trying to deflect criticism from your FF friends !

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    Dec 4th 2019, 3:52 PM

    @alan: yes – as I thought. You don’t know any of their policies. Not a one. You’ve never read their manifesto. You’re just spouting garbage you’ve picked up from god knows where.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:15 AM

    Shame on FF

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 10:47 PM

    Met his quota for the year hes doing a great job… what’s the problem

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:39 PM

    Its typical from opposition sinners ect to go for no confidence vote when no chance it can succeed. Kinda sums up their whole philosophy to politics I dare not succeed. Oh to shout from the wings with no responsibility must be fabulous. Shame they has responsibility up north but …… ah well

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:21 AM

    @Colm Curran: deflect…deflect…panic!

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    Dec 4th 2019, 5:47 AM

    10500 homeless announced last night and this guy gets to keep his job its a pure disgrace

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:59 PM

    Is this not a lesson for Veradka , this Clown is out of his debt, how many more times will time be wasted in the Dail debating about Fools whom the Dogs in the Street know are not fit for Office. Most of hem should Never have been Elected as TDs.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 6:12 AM

    For people ashamed of Sinn Fein should be equally ashamed of Labour it was them who ruined their chances of ever being a working mans party when they screw every working mans chances of a better life and for what ..POWER.. if they had of thought of the working man maybe just maybe the would have or could have been part of the answer to the next general election outcome

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    Dec 4th 2019, 6:32 AM

    The F.F. party 7sed to represent the working man….But now they are Blue Shirts in F.G.. disgracefull allowing this guy remain …

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    Dec 4th 2019, 8:14 AM

    Mary Lou was very interesting in last nights debate. She listed off a series of Sinn Fein’s solutions to the problem, and I just thought, they (Sinn Fein), are capable of bankrupting the country with their housing policy alone. Personally, I thought the Minister defended himself quite well. There was never going to be an easy solution to this issue, as rents are skyrocketing, forcing more and more people out of the market. This unfortunately, is down to supply and demand and will continue to do so. I am definitely not in favor of allowing local authorities to build sprawling housing estates like Finglas ever again. In conclusion, I firmly believe that in time the Minister will be proven right, but once again unfortunately, a lot of people can’t afford to give him the time.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:23 AM

    @John Hanrahan: another FF PR department stalwart…..

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    Dec 4th 2019, 3:09 AM

    Turkey Murphy is saved for Xmas

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:47 AM
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    Dec 4th 2019, 8:03 AM

    Disgraceful , and they wonder why turnouts are so low at the polls !!

    People have little or no trust in Irish politics anymore .

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:07 AM

    How do you feel this morning when you look in the mirror Eoghan Harris and the rest of FG? Will you reflect on all the homeless people this Christmas especially the CHILDREN. The gutless abstain party FF again side with the reckless housing policy of FG.

    Gene Kerrigan nails it again. Worth a read.
    https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/gene-kerrigan-thank-you-to-the-kind-people-of-bulgaria-38742212.html

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:41 AM

    It’s just a game for you lot.All you care about is power.You couldn’t give a shit about this country or its people Fine Gael Fianna Fáil you should all hang your heads in shame.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 8:08 AM

    So we now know were these people that abstentions. They can not say the feel may sorry for the poor or stand up in the dail and point fingers. They had a chance and did nothing but line their own pockets. To me its the same as kicking the homeless families and people and walking on Its a shame. We vote them in to make decisions not to turn their heads. Dont matter what party. I would have no issue walking in the rain/snow to vote these out i would give my vote to anyone but FG/FF or their pals

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    Dec 4th 2019, 7:33 AM

    Politics is a dirty game. Disgusted in our politicians. This housing crises is nationwide and these guys haven’t a clue about the reality of the situation

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    Dec 4th 2019, 8:39 AM

    Disgraceful carry on again by FF, I would love to see change the next election but people will fall for there lies again and the majority won’ turn up to vote, they will run on a platform about resolving the housing crisis people will forget all the times they sat back and made change just like last night. I would rather burn in hell than vote FF and FG

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    Dec 4th 2019, 12:41 PM

    They are getting more and more like Boris and his crew… Just telling lies…

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    Dec 4th 2019, 7:57 AM

    FF are a disgrace.Remember their abstentions at the ballot box next time around.They could end the farce and chose not to.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 8:48 AM

    @paul gurney: just like SF now. Abstention….

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:25 AM

    @Lorna Long: ….deflect again …….

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    Dec 4th 2019, 7:39 AM

    Low voter turnout in the by elections says it all.
    There are no political alternatives in this country so why bother voting.
    Its undemocratic and depressing quiet frankly.

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:36 PM

    Cheekarsio Imperpetuem

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    Mute Alan Carthy
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    Dec 4th 2019, 6:11 AM

    Do ppl think that whoever it is that there be any difference even if it a new government

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:04 AM

    Disgraceful carry on by Fianna Fail, they have been complicit in every f##k up that this government have made. I sincerely hope people remember this when the campaigning starts for the General Election Next year.

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    Dec 4th 2019, 8:43 AM

    Eoghan Murphy saved Christmas , is what I first read. haha

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    Dec 4th 2019, 10:06 AM

    Abstention by Meholes crew ..
    Those they shout loudest about SFs abstention.
    At least SF tell their support.
    Despicable FFG..

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    Dec 4th 2019, 8:11 AM

    Your fact check ruled an election from this action was not true…. But you still headline it…

    #Stoptherotinjournalism

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    Dec 3rd 2019, 11:22 PM

    An

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    Dec 8th 2019, 9:51 PM

    Lying b_____d

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    Dec 4th 2019, 7:50 PM

    Protest for homelessness Thursday 5th December- let’s stand together, enough is enough

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