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'It's the evolving nature of capitalism, it can't just be about profit': Meet the man helping scale social entrepreneurship with ChangeX

Alongside Niamh McKenna, Paul O’Hara is pioneering a new tech-driven way to spread social innovations.

A COUPLE OF years back, on the south side of Chicago, a woman named Pearl found herself looking at an old, unloved, derelict lot and thought that there must be a better use for it.

Now it is an urban garden that helps to bring the community together, one that was set up with the help of GIY, a social enterprise which hails from Waterford, with tech giant Microsoft proving the funding.

What brought these three disparate parties together wasn’t fate or serendipity, it was ChangeX – a social entrepreneurship platform founded in Ireland. 

The Chicago project is a prime example of the type of idea that Paul O’Hara, ChangeX’s chief executive, is working to scale around the world: Take a portfolio of proven social enterprises, match the right ones with the right communities and add in a backer to fund the endeavour. Everything is done online, with ChangeX using tech to bring partnerships together.

It is five years ago in April that ChangeX was first launched by O’Hara and co-founder Niamh McKenna and the mission hasn’t wavered since then.

“The problem that we set out to solve at the start was that there are all these great ideas and direction from communities – instead of everyone having to reinvent the wheel, could we make the best ones accessible to others and make it easy for them to be adopted,” O’Hara says.

Sitting in a breakout area of Dogpatch labs, the startup incubator housed in Dublin’s CHQ that ChangeX calls home, O’Hara is proving the concept. Having raised “in the region of €2 million” to date, ChangeX is looking to raise a further €2.7 million to develop its platform and bring more ideas to communities around the world.

“Technology had to be the enabler. It took us a while but now we are at this point where we have what you could call a functioning change machine, end to end. It’s about capitalising on that and taking it to scale,” O’Hara says.

ChangeX is already generating revenue, earning money by taking a small portion of the community funds it manages, and is almost at the point of self-sustainability.

The company is held to similar standards as the tech startups with which it shares a home, having already attracted heavyweight backers including blue-chip local investors such as Brian Caulfield who has previously invested alongside the likes of Andreessen Horowitz partner John O’Farrell.

“I think they hold us to the standard that they would any startup. They saw the problem of loads of great ideas being very subscale in the nonprofit sector, the unifying wonder was that if this scales, it’s going to have a great impact,” he says.

ChangeX & Microsoft Teams ChangeX and Microsoft Teams Katie Smith (ChangeX) Katie Smith (ChangeX)

While the mission has not changed, that doesn’t mean that the organisation didn’t have to evolve. 

“I had no idea how hard that was going to be. I was naive getting into it and it is particularly challenging as a nonprofit because it’s hard to capitalise. There is an awful lot you have to get right to get a three-sided marketplace working. It has been a challenging few years, but we’ve been able to make enough breakthroughs along the way,” O’Hara says. 

Part of that evolution involved developing a business model that brought together local communities and social innovations who could work together but may not have had much cash with those that do. 

“Companies and foundations approached us, interested in how they could have to scale different ideas. So we kind of stumbled upon a business model that we call impact-as-a-service. The idea was that businesses, or foundations or high net worth individuals, could buy units of impact around ideas or issues that they are passionate about,” O’Hara says. 

The focus has since lasered in on companies as ChangeX is now working with the likes of Microsoft, Target and Blue Cross Blue Shield. 

“The role that companies have in the communities that they operate in is being taken more seriously. It’s part of the evolving nature of capitalism, it can’t just be about profit,” O’Hara says. 

Finding the right path

O’Hara attributes some of his social conscience to his father, an accountant who was originally from Arranmore off the coast of Donegal, and some to his mother, a teacher from Castlebar. The eldest of five, O’Hara grew up in Castlebar and initially studied commerce before taking a post-grad in marketing, 

O’Hara started working as a brand manager with Unilever and progressed through the ranks, later working for Cadbury. Despite taking to the world of fast-moving consumer goods (FMCG), O’Hara wasn’t quite satisfied marketing chocolate bars. 

“I was around my mid-20s, I just started to become much more aware of social problems here and internationally. It was a bit of a quarter-life crisis, I would say,” O’Hara says. 

The “tipping point” was a trip to Zimbabwe, where O’Hara was exposed to extreme poverty for the first time. 

“The privilege we’ve been born into is crazy when you think about it, compared to the vast majority of the world. It was then and there, I was like – right, I don’t know what I’m going to do but I’m going to commit the rest of my life to working on social problems,” O’Hara says. 

Sticking with what he knew, that ambition first manifested in an attempt to set up a charitable water brand that would allocate profits to water projects in Africa. While the idea was later replicated by other brands, it didn’t work out for him. 

It did, however, lead to O’Hara being introduced to Ashoka, a global network of social entrepreneurs. While they weren’t interest in the project, they were interested in O’Hara, who joined the organisation as they were setting up an investment fund for Europe. 

“The way I was kind of thinking about it was that it would be like a two year MBA in how to changed the world, and then I’ll head on and do my own thing,” O’Hara says. He stuck with it a little longer than that, spending more than eight years with the organisation. 

“It was during that time that I realised that there were all these great ideas that we were investing in, but that were so subscale. The solutions were relevant to other geographies and it was such a waste. People were either reinventing the wheel or had no solution at all,” he adds.  

He started trying to experiment with importing and exporting ideas, which worked but didn’t prove easy to scale. It was then that he realised that tech would be the big enabler 

Next steps 

And so ChangeX was born, as O’Hara partnered with McKenna, a former accountant with PwC who he had worked with on an event called Change Nation. The duo are now plotting the next stage of ChangeX’s development. 

“The product works well, but there’s loads of stuff that we want to do,” he says.

O’Hara is hoping to secure additional investment to build out the platform’s portfolio of ideas on everything from climate action to health and economic development and community cohesion. ChangeX also plans to open offices in London and New York to “be where the big companies are” and secure more partners. 

The Castlebar man admits he always harboured some ambition to start his own business but headed down a path that could be a little less lucrative than some of his startup peers.

The Mayo-native takes the approach that once you hit an income level that can satisfy most of your needs, the correlation between income and happiness falls away. 

“If I can satisfy my basic needs, and have a great impact on the world, that’s an ideal scenario. Your time is short, you want to do something meaningful with it. I have three young kids now, so I have to be more mindful of the financial side.  I’m confident that ChangeX can be a sustainable business that can pay people reasonably well and have a great impact,” he says.  

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:40 PM

    Walking

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:44 PM

    Someone make this man head of planning for dcc !

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:52 PM

    There’s be so much room for activities.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:54 PM

    Make that man head of appropriate use of step brothers lines… Surely already a junior minister role!

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:57 PM

    A junkies paradise.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:03 PM

    Hardly. If one has an addiction they want a safe place to use it. They anxiety for those with addictions is off the charts so unlikely they’ll appreciate being around hundreds of people

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:26 PM

    Complaining about the pedestrianisation

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:28 PM

    It does look much nicer in the image above. Most European cities have large open squares and we are playing catch up

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:40 PM

    Pedestrians?

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:50 PM

    Why do they congregate on O’Connell Street, the boardwalks and Temple Bar? They don’t strike me as shy and retiring type of people.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:51 PM

    Can you imagine how bad the traffic is in the city at present. Now with this all bus routes and other traffic will be pushed onto the Quays.. Let the bedlam commence…

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    Oct 28th 2016, 6:00 PM

    Chugging

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    Oct 28th 2016, 6:00 PM

    @Bill O’Connor:
    Begging from tourists.
    Open space for dealers, can see in all directions.
    Good off licences close by, beg a couple of Euro, buy a tinnie and stretch out on the new plaza.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 6:22 PM

    @Bill – ah that’s the life, can’t wait!

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:51 PM

    Well maybe the DCC could use it to set up a decent, central Christmas market for once, and possibly a few markets throughout the year.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:36 PM

    Late night street fights, homing the homeless, more pigeons, annoying trinners student demos and drug taking… Better off leave the buses, keep the place clean!

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:44 PM

    End the drug war. Allow nightclubs open 24/7 like the rest of Europe. Invest in social housing & more council multi use bins. Maybe the odd safe injection centre too. I’ve just solved all your problems except for the trinners, I’m afraid there is no remedy for that

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:44 PM

    @Brown Boots: basically like the boardwalk, except people have to pass through it sometimes.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:50 PM

    Zac-tly! Ha! It’s fine when the bus gates up, maybe leave it at that.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:53 PM

    @NO 2 (them) Is there a way we can build all of that in just such a small space? What of the squirrels and stag parties?

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:06 PM

    Build all of what? I’ve named multiple policy solutions that would be implemented nationwide

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:13 PM

    Build a place that would house homeless, a rehab for drug users, a safe needle clinic place, a 24/7 night club(which I find odd given many homeless people struggle with alcohol abuse), and at the same time as all that build it so fortified that will be able to withstand attacks in the drug war, we all know those drug dealers and their uzi machine guns etc. So yeah if you can build all that, go for it… The pigeons will find their own home.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 7:52 PM

    Or walking back to my car because of this fiasco

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    Oct 29th 2016, 7:21 AM

    The fact you think something individual needs to be build to allow 24 Hours night clubs goes to show you don’t even know what I’m talking about.

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    Oct 29th 2016, 8:42 AM

    Does everything have to do with the homeless? Can that not be handled as a separate issue? This is about having a plaza in a city that needs one.

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    Oct 29th 2016, 1:04 PM

    The fact you dont know I was ripping the pesh shows you haven’t a clue… Better just kock yourself inside

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:45 PM

    There is no tradition of civic spaces in Ireland, it’s typical when we even have to ask; “what do we DO with this space” as opposed to thinking it would be great to chill, people watch, have a coffee and just live, which is what towns and cities are supposed to be for. I partly blame the bad weather, but it doesn’t fully explain it if you compare it to say Scandinavian countries’ attitude

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:58 PM

    Have you ever actually been to a Scandinavian country? I can assure you they’re not “having a coffee” outside in freezing temperatures. A sauna would be a more common hangout area. As for Ireland not having a tradition of “civic spaces” what about Stephens Green and Phoenix Park among other city centre spaces? The Phoenix Park is one of the largest city parks in the world.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:06 PM

    Liam I’m on about civic plazas that are actually used, Stephens green is a park that is closed at night and the Phoenix park is well a park. You go to a European city and you have plazas with benches for older people and cafes surrounding them, here you just have thoroughfares to funnel consumers from one shop to the other

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:07 PM

    Liam you’ve evidently never been to one yourself. Plazas are commonplace are used daily

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:15 PM

    @An_Beal_Bocht:

    The idea of a “plaza” is actually a very socialist, trade union inspired idea. No wonder the Sinn Fein dominated Dublin City council are in favour.

    Dublin doesn’t have open plazas because it was not historically a socialist city.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:29 PM

    Thousands of piazzas all over Italy and they’ve never had a socialist tradition

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:31 PM

    Socialist idea my boll*x, central plazas go back to Roman times where they were the trading heart of the city, the forum. Since most trading and economic activity in cities has moved indoors, the obvious progression was for them to become simple public squares and the idea spread from there.

    They exist across a range of countries and date from a various points in history just look at St Marks Square in Venice, Dam Square in Amsterdam or the main Square of Krakow, they existed long before the word socialism was even coined.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:32 PM

    Jays your some dose, so the the first Italian piazzas in the middle ages were commi socialist constructs

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:48 PM

    Never mind Fred….. still seeing “reds under the bed” from the US McCarthy era…..

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    Oct 28th 2016, 7:57 PM

    @An_Beal_Bocht:
    Coffee kiosks? They tried that on parliament bridge and the boardwalk. Only 1 left. The drug low life’s forced citizens to move on and they had to close. What makes you think it will be any different?
    The drug problem needs to be addressed not civic plazas, they come later.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 9:30 PM

    And warm weather to go with with your cup of coffee.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:05 PM

    I was in a town square in the UK it had huge tv at the time they where showing a current sports event, they had ping pong tables permanently bring your balls/rackets , and a few market stalls selling home made style foods and drinks. Was very nice.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:06 PM

    Boom. Lovely idea

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:15 PM

    Hence why it’ll never happen

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:40 PM

    Ping pong in college Green… Would ya go on out of that with your fancy Dan ideas! A few bags of turf and a stall selling pints of plain and that’ll do you and quit complaining, this bad enough we can’t graze it and have to bow down to be more European, what next a golden dragon too. Cop onto yerself!!!

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    Oct 28th 2016, 6:13 PM

    Sounds like a fanzine of sorts. Imagine being there for the next ‘Robbie Brady scoring against Italy’ moment

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    Oct 28th 2016, 6:27 PM

    @emeralds they could do that already if they wanted, as per new years and American presidents we like. There needs to be a willingness by the corpo to do things like that, and as pie in the sky as this plan described here my seem, changing the corpo is just outrageously ridiculous they would contemplate such a thing… Be realistic man!

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:59 PM

    You need something that works for Irish weather.

    - Large canopy umbrellas in the centre (that look nice) which serve coffee prepared by coffee shops on the perimeter of the square. The seating here needs outdoor heaters.

    - A weekly farmers market – probably on a Sunday

    - A quarterly live event – music, comedy etc, playing monthly during the summer

    - Conversion of coffee shop space and associated seating to restaurants at night – restaurants around the world do this frequently to get the best use from the space. Again, outdoor heating and cover needed.

    - strict policing in the area, removing knackers and with fines on cyclists not dismounting (I’m a cyclist but flying by on a plaza is not on)

    - removal of all heroin / methodone clinics within a 4km radius. Seriously – how is this not done already?!

    - Christmas markets

    It needs to be used regularly to prevent the knackers taking it over. Plus it needs adequate greenery, benches and cover. People always complain about what a great country it would be if we could only roof it…..well bloody put some kinda roof or cover on it!

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    Oct 28th 2016, 6:24 PM

    @Mike F we’ve been on about that roof for ages! OK OK your comment was too long so I didn’t read it all, and that’s coming from me, nothing but long comments but I have a limit!

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    Oct 28th 2016, 9:34 PM

    …rhwy do have something that works for Irish weather : St Stephens Green Centre, Jervis Street Shopping Centre, ILAC Centre, Dundrum Shopping Centre, Liffey Valley. ….The list is endless. This project is for the bird’s.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:40 PM

    A good start would be to keep all McDs, BKs and all other fast food outlets a million miles from the place.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:08 PM

    Temporary stages for culture festivals (who remembers B.B. King’s concert at that spot?), art exhibitions, innovative spaces for sitting down and doing a bit of people watching, underground bike parking.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:49 PM

    The relevant question is how will the local zombie population make use of the college green plaza…

    It will be nothing but a nuisance and is a bad idea. The likes of AAA / socialist parties will be there every day of the week shouting into a mike…something about worker solidarity or human rights abuse in the Sudan.

    Close off all open public spaces in the city.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:54 PM

    @Fred Johnson: or what will happen is it will cost huge monies and then double in price and we the punter will get something nobody asked for, including a super bill, nothing to do with aaa or pbp.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:05 PM

    These comments are an example of why ireland can’t have nice things… moaners don’t appear to want nice things

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:51 PM

    DCC might want to a study of the traffic lights around the city. There is at least 20 sets of lights at major junctions that are out of sequence. Gardiner St lower, Five Lamps, Fitzwilliam place,,Baggot st and Mespil Rd. Ballsbridge turning on to Shelbourne Rd. Etc etc.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:55 PM

    @gerard carey: bushey park bus lane lights, complete annoying, no bus, no traffic, no green light

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:39 PM

    Mass…

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:45 PM

    On the plane to knock with you

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:07 PM

    Bare knuckle Gypsy fights

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:58 PM

    be careful head of dcc owen keegan has history when it comes to public money and white elephants

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:19 PM

    Make cyclists and those horror rickshaws walk with their bikes … pedestrian only!
    Cyclists think they own the road, footpath, grass, and that trafic signals, stop and yield signs don’t apply to them!
    Other cities have banned them and actively issue fines!

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    Oct 28th 2016, 7:45 PM

    Serious amount of negativity and cynicism in most of the comments on this article. Bit sad really. I think it’s actually good the council are asking for citizen input..democracy at work. Hopefully they’ll get some decent suggestions from people with a positive vision for the space.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:07 PM

    Water protest after water protest after water protest……

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:45 PM

    i’d use it for cycling

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:48 PM

    Cycle tracks will feature on all sides of the space. It’s what to do with the middle plaza, leaving it open with a few trees and benches be grand

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    Oct 28th 2016, 4:51 PM

    @NO 2 FF/FG/LAB: more cycle tracks, like a maze

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:03 PM

    @NO 2 FF/FG/LAB:

    No trees….”they” can hide under trees and congregate there. Leave it very open and exposed with cctv cameras everywhere.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:04 PM

    Who the hell is they? You mean irish citizens?

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:13 PM

    @NO 2 FF/FG/LAB:

    You know exactly who tends to congregate in open spaces in the centre of Dublin.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:40 PM

    And maybe a guard or two otherwise it will be a free for all just like o’connell street.

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    Mute Jennifer Flynn
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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:54 PM

    Sounds great. Craft stalls, outdoor cafes in the summer, lots of trees. Sign me up!

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    Oct 28th 2016, 9:44 PM

    No! No more trees! They obscure the lovely architecture. They should cut down the trees that are there already. Trees can go in other places

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    Oct 28th 2016, 8:38 PM

    Most large cities and capitals have a plaza, Dublin needs one.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 8:44 PM

    It’s a great idea to pedestrianise the area but unfortunately the powers that be will surely screw this up. The junkies and aggressive beggars that are a law unto themselves will take over it drinking and roaring and pi$$ing as we can see from other areas in the city centre. Why can’t the methodone clinics be moved away from the centre the junkies have free travel passes anyway. Such a blight in the city centre. Until the junkballs are shifted there’s not much point with this as we see from the boardwalk which was promised all Dubliners and visitors alike will enjoy.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:37 PM

    Great idea….on paper. Where is all the traffic going to go? I saw a proposal recently where there would be a huge increase of traffic on Parliament St which is it wont be able to handle,its too small. Also what about businesses in the area and hotels how will they be serviced if a traffic ban is imposed? Its a silly idea and bad for the city

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    Oct 29th 2016, 7:23 AM

    How about you get your smelly cars out if the city centre. Dublin air quality is historically bad enough as is

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:11 PM

    Shooting up and pickpocketing

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:17 PM

    i have no idea!. sounds like another daft Corpo. idea.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:34 PM

    I would hope it would be a little more on the ‘Green’ side that what’s displayed in that mockup.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:30 PM

    Driving. There’d be no other cars so it should be fast !!!!

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    Oct 28th 2016, 6:58 PM

    Ireland is not an outdoors country…we’re more barstool culture looking outside. It’s mainly down to our depressing weather. Imagine October is our driest month of the year

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    Mute NO 2 FF/FG/LAB
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    Oct 29th 2016, 7:22 AM

    What a sad existence you have. Get off your arse

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:45 PM

    Eh,for driving my car on it?

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    Oct 28th 2016, 11:41 PM

    i an not apposed to the idea but i think they should have pedestrianised O’Connell street instead of running that stupid bloody Luas up it, the Luas could have been sent along Marlboro street and the busses put to one side of O’Connell street, i am worried about the traffic problems closing College Green will cause, non of these plans should have been put in place until a proper integrated traffic management plan had been put in place, they put the cart before the horse and when the traffic chaos ensues the whole college green plaza idea will unravel, and sadly i suspect this is just property speculation taken priority over what the city really needs

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    Oct 29th 2016, 1:43 AM

    More space for the Junkie’s to hang out ? the broadwalk and temple bar is already littered with rhem

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    Oct 28th 2016, 5:28 PM

    Shootin up.only joking decriminalise drugs

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    Oct 28th 2016, 6:46 PM

    Cars

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    Oct 29th 2016, 8:49 AM

    Looks like the trees on college green will get the chop, not a good thing.

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    Oct 29th 2016, 12:52 AM

    Avoiding junkies.

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    Oct 28th 2016, 7:10 PM

    So the poor junkies have somewhere to hang around

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    Oct 29th 2016, 1:45 PM

    Well me and Decko and his burd will be hanging out down dere all day after pickin up de welfare and shooting up. It’ll be a deadly place to hang out and cause trouble for de laffs!

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    Oct 28th 2016, 6:02 PM

    Free heroin hq with clean needle exchange . Goof out area

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    Oct 29th 2016, 11:16 PM

    Nothing against junkies or homeless people but that’s who is going to be using this space primarily.

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