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Leo keen to stay on if FG loses election - and insists he's not interested in a big EU job

‘As a last resort’ Varadkar said he’ll go into government with Fianna Fail to avoid another election.

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TAOISEACH LEO VARADKAR has no plans to take a top job in Europe after this election and wants to lead Fine Gael from the opposition benches. 

Speaking to TheJournal.ie’s general election podcast The Candidate, the Fine Gael leader said he thinks he performed best on last night’s RTÉ election debate with Micheál Martin and Mary Lou McDonald. 

Varadkar said he doesn’t believe his party is heading for a 2002 election result, adding that he thinks Fine Gael will get the most seats. 

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“First of all that is not going to happen. The opinion polls are within the margin of error, we’re all within 5% of each other. And I believe we will emerge as the largest party after this election. But to answer your hypothetical question, if that’s not the case and if we’re in opposition, I will seek to continue to lead my party and assuming I’m elected as a TD in Dublin West, I will continue to represent the good people of Dublin 15 and Dublin 7 who have trusted me with their vote.

“I have not ever been offered any of these wonderful jobs in Europe that people speculate about, I don’t think any of them are available until 2024 anyway,” he said. 

There has been speculation in political circles that Varadkar will have no interest in sitting in the opposition benches, with suggestions that he would be interested in playing a role in Europe, perhaps around Brexit. 

Last year, Varadkar said he was “flattered” to be linked to the role of the new president of the European Commission but said at the time that he plans to stay put in Ireland as Taoiseach.

general-election-ireland-2020 Leo Varadkar was in TheJournal.ie's HQ this morning to take part in our general election podcast The Candidate. PA Wire / PA Images PA Wire / PA Images / PA Images

Varadkar again ruled out any coalition with Sinn Féin, stating that he could not see a scenario after the election where he would go back to his party and ask the membership if they would consider or approve the two parties in government together. 

“No, and I can’t. The party is unequivocal about this, as I am, that we won’t entertain a coalition with Sinn Féin for reasons we have explained,” he said. 

When put to him that some ministers, such as Regina Doherty, have stated in the past that she would be open to working with the party, he said she did not mean entering government with Sinn Féin.

“That is not the same thing. I am willing to work with them too, and I have in Northern Ireland and on Brexit and we will work with them on issues. The only people talking about going into government with them, into coalition are Fianna Fáil TDs, all over the country,” he claimed. 

Varadkar said that Martin will go into government with Mary Lou McDonald, because it is his last chance to become Taoiseach. 

I think he has to. If push comes to shove, because this is his third time, leading Fianna Fáil into a general election, it is his last chance to be Taoiseach. There might be a merry dance for a few weeks and months before it happens.
But I believe he would do it. And he’s already getting signals from all over the country from his TDs that they are up for this. I’m getting the opposite, which is no way, don’t even entertain this. So Fianna Fáil is divided on this, my party is united that we would rather go into opposition then help Sinn Féin go into government.

Martin has repeatedly ruled out any coalition with Sinn Féin and denied his party members are open to the idea. 

A last resort 

Who would he go in with? 

“My preference is of course, is, is a coalition with people we’ve worked with in the past like Labour and Independents and people I think we could work with in the future like [the] Greens and maybe the Social Democrats. But I have said that in a last resort scenario, in order to avoid an unnecessary second election, that we’d be willing to work with Fianna Fáil in those circumstances and I think that’d be the responsible thing to do.”

He said it would not be “desirable” but something he is willing to do.

Does Varadkar see himself standing side-by-side with Micheál Martin in government after Saturday’s vote?  

“I certainly hope not,” he said, adding that he intends to lead a new government with some of the smaller parties. “I hope that is what the people decide to do on Saturday,” said Varadkar, adding: 

I really loving this job and I  feel I am only getting started.

 
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    Mute John O'Hara
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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:20 PM

    Fine gael – The party of plans and promises – But no solutions. e.g. Health, homelessness, pensions etc. etc….. The only thing that they succeed in is failure.

    Fianna Fáil – The party that bankrupted the country and indebted future generations in order to bail out private institutions, that now are allowed to pay no tax by Fine Gael.

    Sinn Féin – Excellent costed policies to reverse the pension debacle, abolish the unfair home tax (LPT), rent freeze, money back for renters, huge public building program, tackle homeless in a meaningful way and many other policies that will aid the irish public and not the Multinationals etc. etc…

    Let the people with the money pay the taxes. They get their wealth off the back of society.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:37 PM

    @John O’Hara: Sinn Fein – IRA hurler-on-the-ditch political party with an active parmamiliary wing.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:39 PM

    @John O’Hara: sadly the people of Ireland will re-elect ffg. Maybe if the media wasn’t so bias SF would get a decent chance (Yates, Coleman, O Callaghan, Cooper etc)

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    Mute C
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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:51 PM

    @Dan2078: Serious question. If you vote SF, who runs the country? SF or the army council? Their stance on the central criminal court suggests someone in the background is pulling strings.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:52 PM

    @Dan2078:
    It’s like trying to win a game of football, when the ref is blatantly biased against you. But the Irish people seem to be wising up….

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:55 PM

    @C:
    You mean the way billionaires, O’Brien etc, pull FG & FF’s strings. What have the public gotten out of that..?

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:56 PM

    @C: as you know, they are only running 42 candidates and you need over 80 to have a majority government. Its unlikely a left government will be formed so if they are in government they will be junior coalition partners. So I would imagine the banks and vested interested will continue to have a large say. Does that answer your ridiculous question?

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:01 PM

    @Ordinary lad: you sound desperate, guess you FG trolls will be out of a job soon

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:02 PM

    @C: if you have evidence please contact the proper authorities , if not you are talking rubbish.

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    Mute Dan2078
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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:23 PM

    @C: well our overpaid civil servants will still be running the country, but at least SF will have an input and maybe even pull a few of them into line!

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:24 PM

    @John O’Hara: I hope so John but prob need to wait a few more years. Still a lot of oldies out there who think ffg are fine upstanding pillars of the community

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:25 PM

    @C: is that u Leo?

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    Feb 5th 2020, 3:04 PM

    @Ordinary lad: Congratulations, Lad. You are the one millionth user of the most over-flogged phrase of this election. In order to process your prize gift, we will need your bank account number and sort code.
    Your forever friendly Prince of Nigeria.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 3:39 PM

    @Ordinary lad: blue shirts !!!!!! DUP buddies!!!!

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    Feb 5th 2020, 4:08 PM

    @John O’Hara: Excellent costed policies? Pull the other one there John. SF reckon increasing the vacant site levy to 15% will bring in €107 million, it took in €800,000 at 8% last year. Where are they getting the extra €106 million? I’ll tell you where, out of the land of make believe.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 4:32 PM

    @Dan2078: get the excuses in early why don’t you. Blame everyone else. There are intelligent people who can see through this bluff. Not everyone has been hoodwinked.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 4:39 PM

    @Giller: and the intelligent people will vote for …. ffg? If that’s what the ‘intelligent’ people do god help us. Or maybe u enjoy being taken advantage of

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    Feb 5th 2020, 4:47 PM

    @Dan2078: il willing to take my chance with a party that is democratic. They may not be the best but at least they are not run by an army council who have no regard for the rule of law.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 4:52 PM

    @C: so who is pulling the strings at Amnesty international, United Nations and Civil liberties Ireland. All have called for SCC to be abolished.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 6:09 PM

    @Paddy Kennedy:
    You’d know, you seem to be good at making stuff up……

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    Feb 5th 2020, 7:28 PM

    @John O’Hara: whatever you on it has affected your judgment

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    Feb 5th 2020, 9:57 PM

    @Giller: democratic thats a funny one

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:22 PM

    I would roughly translate that as a call to the EU for help.
    He will be gone in a heartbeat.

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    Feb 6th 2020, 7:49 AM

    @Justice Mickey: pllllllleeeeaaaasss just go Leo. The institution for failed politicians in Brussels will surely stick you on another one of their Gravy Trains, if you want!

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:24 PM

    Seems he’s finally listening to the electorate and accepts he’s going to lose…

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:38 PM

    @nothing witty: yep..but that still doesn’t get in the way of what he perceives, as many in FF do as well, as their entitlement..

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:24 PM

    Michael Noonan has started campaign to get rid of him already before we vote I wonder what rest think of him!

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:28 PM

    @Andrew O Grady: yes I read that earlier that he wants Pascal to lead FG. Everyone was too busy with the IRA deflection. Jobs for the boys. The cartel that wont be broken

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:33 PM

    @Brian Madden: if we only look at pensions been paid out to former ministers and TDS , we will realise why we pay so much taxes and why the established parties don’t want change it’s scandalous little ireland

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:36 PM

    @Andrew O Grady: of course. They cosy up toi the bank, bail rte and media outlets out, have big business in their pockets and as soon as anybody tries to challenge them all hell breaks loose. The people in the street are starting to see through it. Saturday’s election will be very interesting

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:40 PM

    @Brian Madden: the beauty is the young people are so educated today and can see through these false promises crocodile tears from the establishment give me another go please !

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:57 PM

    @Andrew O Grady: that’s the way it’s going. As the years go by the IRA will be mentioned less at elections and the younger generation are not voting for FFG in high numbers.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:05 PM

    @Brian Madden: the war is long over and guns are silent, just move on what went on was wrong hopefully never to be repeated again !

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:19 PM

    @Andrew O Grady: And those who used the guns should NEVER be allowed to have authority in this state.They murdered Gardai and soldiers serving the people of this country. How anyone who has a shred of respect for democracy contemplate voting for them is beyond me and many other voters. When SF leaders and followers can condemn these acts without equivocation and the party expels the perpetrators from their membership then and only then will they be fit to govern.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:23 PM

    @Brian Nolan: there elected to both sides in north ,

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:36 PM

    @Brian Nolan: Hang on, FF were smuggling guns in 1970.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:43 PM

    @Andrew O Grady: True – as part of a compromise peace treaty between two warring factions, (there’s nothing normal about the arrangement in the North it’s just the best that can be done with the communities in question), but that does not mean they’re fit for office here, either side. Also, the civil war ended in this state in 1923; why was the IRA murdering Gardai during robberies in the 1990′s? Why will SF not condemn this? It speaks to their respect for democracy that they can’t say that those who carried out these acts or facilitated them were criminals and should not be members of their party.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:44 PM

    @Cormac Laffan: And should have went to jail for it then too.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 3:00 PM

    @Brian Nolan: Ah yeah, forgot about the old “collapsed trial” trick.
    Not sure anyone paid for it in the end.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 3:14 PM

    @Andrew O Grady: You must be having a laugh. Young people can see no further than the clock on the wall. They will vote for whoever mammy and daddy tells them and get back to their 25 hour days

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    Feb 5th 2020, 3:18 PM

    @Michael Lynch: I’d be very surprised the days of voting for the party one parents voted for is gone so much choice and with social media they are connnected to what’s been promised before and what wasn’t delivered

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    Feb 5th 2020, 4:28 PM

    @Brian Nolan: what about the Germans.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:26 PM

    While I have nothing to substantiate this, I just know we will see Leo get a top job in the EU in the next 10 years – and was probably promised it during the Brexit saga.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 8:19 PM

    @milton friedman: the EU may be in a too precarious position in 10 years

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:23 PM

    For all EU leaders it’s always been standard practice to deny EU job ambitions.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:21 PM

    Leo the liar

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:44 PM

    @P Quinn: FG party are packed with liar’s as is FF

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    Feb 5th 2020, 6:07 PM

    @Margaret Kane: and SF with their former leader telling everyone he was not a member of the IRA

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:27 PM

    Don’t let FG & FF scare you away from doing the right thing.. Using poor misfortunate families to prop up their collapsing vote.

    They don’t give a damm about mrs Quinn or anyone, unless there’s an election going on. All they want is the gravy train, then we can all die on hospital waiting lists, for all they care or do about it.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:42 PM

    @John O’Hara: You’re right, I certainly won’t be considering this or the SCC when I vote on Saturday.
    As Bill Clinton said; “it’s the economy stupid!”

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    Feb 5th 2020, 3:15 PM

    @Cormac Laffan: my apologies for correcting you but it was actually Clinton’s chief strategist, James Carville, who said it.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 6:14 PM

    @Charles Alexander: Thanks Charles, didn’t know that, it’s a great line.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 6:51 PM

    @Cormac Laffan: it got Clinton elected in ’92.
    Don’t think it’s enough for Leo – we seem to have an electorate that vote with a conscious as opposed to their pocket and perhaps that’s the way it should be.
    Certainly, the polls imply that but the actual vote may say something completely different.
    When it comes to Saurday it may be just about the economy!

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:27 PM

    He’ll have no job shortly

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:37 PM

    @Bitcoin Buddy: he could have a job. Mary Lou has said she’d go into coalition with them, thereby keeping Leo, Pascal and all the lads in top jobs. Nothing will change. Or she might go with FF so Michael, shotgun Willie and others who bankrupted the country will be back.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 7:30 PM

    @Bitcoin Buddy: !!!!!

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:35 PM

    Leo Varadkar has nits…. Pass it on…

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:58 PM

    No chance of a FF/FG coalition this time Leo. You won’t have the numbers, even between the two of you. This is going to be FG’s worst ever election. Half your ministers aren’t even going to get reelected.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:22 PM

    Data Murphy watch out, it might be your job he wants…..

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:02 PM

    So if the Republic used the same method as the North to count homeless people where do you think our figure would be? 100,00? 200,000???

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    Feb 5th 2020, 3:46 PM

    that’s compulsory speak before getting a big eu job

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    Feb 5th 2020, 3:52 PM

    I think him and Michael are on the way out. Yesterday’s men. Brendan as well. Long knives out already for Leo!

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    Feb 5th 2020, 1:46 PM

    If you looked at his last night i would be very suspicious.

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:33 PM

    @Dave Barrett: is that because the ffg presenters were not impartial?

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    Feb 5th 2020, 2:09 PM

    As the poppy wielder. Long live British wars

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    Feb 5th 2020, 6:12 PM

    Would you believe anything LV says?

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    Feb 5th 2020, 7:33 PM

    He might get a job in the Private Suits in the New Children’s Hospital

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    Mute Connachtabu
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    Feb 5th 2020, 4:30 PM

    Any chance we could have a couple of parallel polls in the next day or so?:
    1. “Who will you vote for on Saturday, if you have the vote”?
    2. Who would you vote for on Saturday, if you had the vote (under 18, EU national, non-EU national, don’t live in the RoI)?

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    Feb 5th 2020, 4:34 PM

    @Connachtabu:
    I would expect the result for (1) would be as follows:
    Sinn Fein: 35%
    Fianna Fail: 20%
    Fine Gael: 15%
    Greens: 15%
    Labour: 5%
    Soc Dems: 5%
    Others: 5%

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    Feb 5th 2020, 3:40 PM

    They are ALL liars ! It just depends on which liar you are going to vote for !

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    Feb 5th 2020, 4:27 PM

    Liar Liar pants on fire. Not i nterested! Lol

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    Feb 6th 2020, 7:43 AM

    He is a EU lapdog of course he’s going to get a big EU job.
    Every lapdog gets their treat.

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