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Sasko Lazarov via RollingNews.ie

No priority testing, one officer on NPHET - garda association criticises lack of involvement in pandemic policing plan

The GRA said this lack of representation has resulted in legal grey areas for officers while policing during this crisis.

THE PRESIDENT OF the Garda Representative Association has described how he was left frustrated by the lack of garda involvement in the National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET).

Jim Mulligan explained that a lack of policing expertise on the emergency panel left the island ill-equipped to deal with some of the policing issues that have arisen since the Covid-19 restrictions were imposed in March.

The GRA has also been strongly critical of the lack of priority testing available for its 13,000 rank-and-file officers.

Hundreds of thousands of interactions by gardaí with the public have been carried out since the lockdown began in Ireland. Checkpoints are now common to ensure the public is only making essential journeys. 

Despite the vast majority of people adhering to the guidelines, there have been over 50 incidents of gardaí being spat or coughed on.

In recent weeks, gardaí have invoked regulations 139, while pre-existing enforcement powers have been used in 1,172 incidents. This means there were 139 arrests relating directly to Covid-19 rule breaches while the other 1,172 arrests were carried out while initially responding to reports of a Covid-19 breach but where other laws were used to arrest – for example, drug possession or drink driving. 

The interactions between gardaí and the public have been pleasant, for the most part, Mulligan explained. 

“Most of the interactions are very positive. We had two states of play. Up until restrictions were put in place, we were only encouraging people to turn back. There’s still a lot of that. Now we have the power to detain but it’s still encourage, engage, explain and enforce in that order.”

There has been a significant increase in the number of garda checkpoints set up since the Covid-19 outbreak, meaning that there is an increased chance of gardaí apprehending serious criminals. 

For example, officers attached to Covid-19 checkpoints have seized around €1 million worth of drugs in the space of two months.

Despite the successes, officers have been spat at, coughed on and had blood spat on them while carrying out their duties during the crisis. 

The GRA said that increased interactions with the public, as well as a rise in the number of people coughing or spitting at officers, means they should be given priority testing. 

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Mulligan explained that two testing centres were due to open in Dublin and the Garda College in Templemore, Tipperary, to facilitate the testing but an unspecified “clinical governance issue” arose and the plans were frozen. 

“You put checkpoints all over the city and you don’t know what you’ll come across. The stressful part is for our lads is when you get spat at. 

“You get them biting their lip to spit blood on you – it can be very stressful in the current climate, you don’t know if this person has this disease and you’re living with kids or elderly parents and you are obviously concerned.

“Dublin Fire Brigade has a 24-hour turnaround period. We feel we should be on the same level. If you have a quick turnaround, then policing will not suffer. If you have one person with symptoms, they’re to be tested and those who were in close contact are to self-isolate until the results come back. It would make sense that within 24 hours you could have everyone back to work and not waiting a week.”

Not only is the GRA frustrated by the lack of priority testing, but it is also the lack of representation on NPHET and its sub-units which are also acting as a bone of contention for the association.

Mulligan said that only one member of An Garda Síochána is listed as being part of NPHET. There are also two staff attached to the Department of Justice who are working with the public health group, he added. 

Mulligan says this lack of representation has resulted in legal grey areas for officers while policing during this crisis. 

For example, he cites the issue of people living in the North who travelled to their holiday homes in the Republic over Easter. An oversight in the regulations meant officers were powerless to order people to return to their homes as they were from another jurisdiction. 

He added that garda input before the regulations were signed off on would have resulted in a more thorough and detailed plan being enforced rather than what was originally put in place. 

“We were annoyed that they didn’t have us there from the get-go”, Mulligan explained.

“With NPHET, there’s 250 across the board and there seems to be only one person from AGS from the whole thing. There should be someone there at the senior level. We are not taking anything away from the medical side of things, not at all, but we have three people with knowledge and expertise with the law on the team.” 

There is a total of 40 people on the main NPHET board. However, another 200 or so people make up what is known as sub-groups which report to NPHET.

Buddy system problems

Gardaí are currently operating a buddy system which garda management said is designed in a way which should help officers reduce social interactions with other members of the force. 

This means that officers are paired up with the same partner and carry out their duties together, instead of mixing with a number of different members on a daily basis. 

A previous statement from gardaí said that the restructuring of the force’s resources has facilitated “the practical application of ‘social distancing’ within An Garda Siochana”.

It added that the new roster separates operational units into ‘islands’ and within these ‘islands’ members have been buddied together.

However, many officers have said how the buddy system is almost unworkable when working in a large station where there are a lot of active cases, arrests and court hearings to attend. 

Mulligan agreed that there had been complaints from members in relation to the system but that there is only so much that can be done to ensure the safety of garda personnel. 

“It’s a difficult job. The buddy system is there to try to limit the risk as much as possible. We thought it was a good idea and where it works, it does work. We have to go out in the car with someone otherwise you have single occupancy patrol cars, and there’s no point in that if you come into a group of three or four.

“The whole idea is the same people working together. If someone is gone to court or gone out sick, someone else has to work with you. It’s close quarters and not the ideal solution but there’s no other option really.”

Checkpoints and masks

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The most common complaint Mulligan said the GRA has received since the start of Covid-19 policing is from members who want to wear facemasks, especially at checkpoints. 

He described how officers want to wear masks at checkpoints not only for their own safety but to put the minds of the drivers at ease.

“We’ve had members coming to us about masks particularly on checkpoints, from their point of view and the public – why they’re not wearing masks, there’s a direction we don’t generally wear masks unless there’s a specific reason to do so.

“If you’re standing at a checkpoint, the member of the public is nervous because that garda could have spoken with 300 other people before talking to them. If you look at complaints to Gsoc since this began, a third of the complaints have been that gardaí were not wearing facemasks.

“The health and safety of our members is our top concern.”

A spokesperson for the Department of Health said: “The Covid 19 testing process is subject to ongoing review and is managed by the HSE.

“The NPHET membership is comprised of public health expertise and does not include representative bodies. There is however continuous and ongoing engagement between Government Departments and agencies.”

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    Mute Sam Bartell
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    Feb 5th 2015, 9:08 AM

    Should be able to click in tá and nil to see easier who has voted in favour/against what and who didnt vote at all

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    Mute Mrs Shalakalananaka
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    Feb 5th 2015, 9:30 AM

    There’s an excel sheet online somewhere that tells you where everyone sits so you can work it out. I’m not on the computer at the moment, so I can’t give you the link, but I think it’s on the Dail website. Your way would be a million times handier though.

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    Mute Jason Bourne
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    Feb 5th 2015, 9:45 AM

    Exactly Sam, we are paying for this afterall. It should be accessible as standard.

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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:54 AM

    Mrs that my point though. Why should we need to get an excel sheet out to navigate through democracy? In this day and age we have the technology to make this much more user friendly. Point and click a seat see bio, voting record, attendance, salary, expenses, committee membership, contact details and SIPO returns etc.

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    Mute Mrs Shalakalananaka
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    Feb 5th 2015, 12:04 PM

    I completely agree, the amount of time I waste going through that sheet finding out who voted for what, and after all that, it’s a bit out of date too. I would love to see a page that has all that information in just one click, and to be honest, I reckon I could even make it myself if I had a bit of time, because it’s not even that complicated in terms of technology. But you’re suggesting the Dáil does something that makes complete sense and would make things easier and clearer for voters and people interested in Irish politics. It’s not going to happen. =P

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    Mute gregory
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    Feb 5th 2015, 8:25 PM

    High Treason from Fg and Labour actively blocking any possibility of a deal on bankster debts

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    Feb 5th 2015, 8:30 PM

    What the hell? Fg and labour taking steps against the madness of bailing out bankster debts and undermining any chance of ireland getting a deal. Traitors the lot of them. Afraid greece succeeds where ireland failed in case it makes fg and labour look bad. Party politics over the interest of irish people!

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    Mute Luke D
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    Feb 5th 2015, 9:22 AM

    Because they care more about keeping in with their mates in Brussels than they do about their own people or the Greeks.

    Turn coats

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    Feb 5th 2015, 9:26 AM

    What have the Greeks ever done for us Luke?

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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:07 AM

    Georgios Samaras and Ouzo

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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:18 AM

    What have the Greeks ever done for us? Gave us the notion of democracy, also a large part of what we call civilisation. among other things.

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    Mute Maurice Bourke
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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:31 AM

    Speaking statistically, couldn’t 51% of the country inflict tyranny democratically on the other 49% of the country. With not everyone registered to vote, and with people who are registered and don’t vote, couldn’t a much smaller number like 30% of the people inflict tyranny democratically on the other 70%.

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    Feb 5th 2015, 1:26 PM

    Half of Georgia Salpa?

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    Feb 5th 2015, 9:15 AM

    They really don’t care!!

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    Mute Live Long
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    Feb 5th 2015, 9:43 AM

    They do care Trevor…..about that cushy Brussels number their all foaming at the mouth for.

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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:05 AM

    Because our ‘democracy’ is a thin veneer and the Oireachtais largely serves the interests of big capital and not the vast majority of Irish citizens.

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    Mute HULK SMASH!
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    Feb 5th 2015, 9:34 AM

    Corruption

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    Mute Peter Hargan
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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:46 AM

    Corruption and TREASON

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    Mute Paul Roche
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    Feb 5th 2015, 9:25 AM

    Sure why would you be inviting people into the town who might blurt what actually happened?

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    Feb 5th 2015, 8:33 PM

    Anyone who voted no against a debt conference should be ousted from dail eireann for not acting in ireland’s interest. Basically all of the government td’s.

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    Mute Mark Wilson
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    Feb 5th 2015, 9:30 AM

    Because we are sado-masochists.
    We enjoy the pain…At least the government has told us we do. In which case,we are also gimp slaves too!!

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    Mute Live Long
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    Feb 5th 2015, 9:41 AM

    Wake the gimp Mark

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    Mute BERTIE
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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:11 AM

    Anyone who supports this government or any of its austerity measures is a GIMP, it’s the only way to explain why!

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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:11 AM

    Thhe gang of 4 tell the cabinet what to do, the cabinet tells the whips and they tell the TDs which way to vote. Its called democracy Irish style

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    Mute Ivan Murphy
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    Feb 5th 2015, 4:27 PM

    Bang on… the ‘Economic Management Council’ fascism FG styleeee.

    4 guys, whipping everybody else in line.

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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:51 AM

    Why did the Dáil vote against a European debt conference?

    I’m going with ‘Stockholm Syndrome’.

    You only had to listen to that eejit Noonan with his ‘we’re alright, we’re not dependent on feta cheese exports’ comment to see that there is no solidarity with anybody that threatens a good pension. If the shoe was on the other foot and some Greek minister dismissivly suggested that ‘the paddys could go back to bartering with potatoes’ we’d have completely lost our collective s***

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    Mute GO GREEN
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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:17 AM

    They like dishing out austerity and being the poster boy of austerity especially since they are immune from austerity.

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    Mute littleone
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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:33 AM

    Sure why would they vote for a debt conference . They wouldnt want to help the country . They get what they want big wages and pensions paid by the taxpayers no matter what.

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    Feb 5th 2015, 9:33 AM

    Greece must be on a tracker

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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:08 AM

    Did you enjoy your holidays? One of the perks at FG? Back in overdrive now though I see.

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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:38 AM

    well look what the cat dragged out of the FG sewers

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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:55 AM

    What is our national debt? €214bn quotes in the article or €154bn quoted in yesterday’s article.

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    Mute Ivan Murphy
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    Feb 5th 2015, 4:23 PM

    Why did the Dáil vote against a European debt conference?

    Because they are spineless fools that would rather bend over for the elite bankers and their political masters in Europe, than do something that might actually benefit the peoples of this country and Europe.

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    Feb 5th 2015, 2:56 PM

    We are not supporting this hypocrisy,you said it yourself it was their banks and govt who were at fault,why should the average greek person suffer.This new greek govt are supporting their people and are looking for a debt write down because the debt is totally unsustainable.If they kept on going the way they were there would have been violent rebellion.

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    Feb 5th 2015, 6:32 PM

    Because they are the same ones who flushed our sovereignty down the pan???

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    Feb 5th 2015, 4:13 PM

    As in Ireland the media and academia in Greece did not expose the fraudsters in government and banks who were safely ensconced in positions of power for years and who eventually bankrupted the country.

    Now they want the citizens of other EU countries to pay.

    No way Jose

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    Feb 5th 2015, 10:37 AM

    The Greeks are making hypocritical demands on other countries in the euro zone, some of which are poorer than Greece, to pay for the recklessness and irresponsibility of their own governments and banks over decades.

    We should not support this hypocrisy.

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    Feb 5th 2015, 6:34 PM

    They were in massive debt but the IMF made it worse for them due to the euro, they had to borrow money to look after the euros wellbeing and that added to their mess.

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    Feb 6th 2015, 8:16 AM

    Interesting note . The gap in vote was 30 seats. At least 17 opposition seats were marked white for abstentions or no vote. Stop pairing arrangements!

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    Feb 6th 2015, 4:20 AM

    well done to the government yet again

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    Feb 8th 2015, 12:58 PM

    Explain to me why we have Peter Sutherland advising the Irish Government when he was the very person whispering in the Irish governments ear during this last minute crisis bailout…. He is Chairman of Goldman Sachs those invested interests are still vested interests…They have taken no hit and suffered no backlash.. The banking inquiry serves NO purpose unless we are changing the system… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Z_WcRJzcA

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