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Before Normal People: A brief history of Irish TV sex controversies

Introducing The Tube: We’ll be taking a look at the good, the bad and the ugly of Ireland’s TV past every Wednesday evening.

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THE RECENT CONTROVERSY OVER the frank depictions of sex between the two lead characters in Normal People has provided something of a welcome distraction from you-know-what in recent weeks. 

It all played out as you’d expect, as Irish moral controversies go – condemnation from a cleric, and scores of people contacting RTÉ to voice their displeasure, including via Joe Duffy’s overworked switchboard. 

One Liveline caller went as far as to describe the lengthy scenes between Marianne (Daisy Edgar-Jones) and Connell (Paul Mescal) as being akin to “something from a porno”. Asked by Duffy what one might expect to see in a porno, the caller admitted that she didn’t know as she’d never seen one. 

The whole affair harked back to a different time in Irish society. It’s difficult to recall the last time depictions of sex in an Irish-set drama provoked such a reaction. 

Love/Hate, if you’ll recall, prompted all manner of complaints – but perhaps the biggest controversy in its five year run was over Barry Keoghan’s character machine-gunning a cat to death in the opening scenes of season four back in 2013.

With that in mind, we thought we’d kick off this new once-weekly TV lookback article by taking a look at depictions of (and reactions to) sex on Irish television over the last six decades.  

If you have a strong opinion on Miley, Fidelma and the hay barn by all means feel free to jump straight to the comments section.

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It started on… 

For those of you still with us, the story of sex on Irish television is generally accepted to have begun in 1966 – not with a drama, but on the Late Late Show. 

You’ll probably have heard about what happened: Eileen Fox and her husband Richard unwittingly rocked the nation with one of their answers in a quiz item for married couples in what eventually became known as the Bishop and the Nightie Affair.

Gay Byrne, already four years into his stint as host of the long-running RTÉ show, asked the couple what colour nightwear Eileen had worn on her honeymoon. Richard said it had been transparent. Eileen replied that she hadn’t worn any. 

There was laughter from the crowd, and the show moved on. But the Bishop of Clonfert, Dr Thomas Ryan, was less than amused and phoned The Sunday Press to announce that he planned to denounce the item in a sermon the next day at Loughrea Cathedral.

The paper ran with the frontpage “Bishop slates TV act” and the country exploded into a frenzy of controversy.

The furore kept tongues wagging and newspaper columns filled for months. Reflecting on the incident years later Byrne observed that the reaction was “very very strong for a while – it wasn’t a joke”.

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The Late Late, of course, examined every aspect of Irish life with Byrne at the helm over the following decades, and – as you can see from the above – coverage of evolving attitudes to sex regularly featured.

The subject didn’t crop up with quite as much regularity in domestic dramas in the early decades of Irish TV, but then again – partly due to the expense of the production costs – there weren’t all that many domestic dramas to speak of.

Even the mention of contraception in RTÉ’s long-running series The Riordans led to criticism in the Oireachtas at one stage.

The local priest had had the temerity to counsel Maggie Riordan to use contraception after she was advised not to have another child. 

Some TDs reckoned the episode had crossed a line of decency, and voiced their outrage in the Dáil chamber. 

In 1978, the secondary-school set drama The Spike was condemned after a glimpse of naked flesh was seen.

While the nudity was in the context of a model posing for a portrait and not a sex scene, it didn’t lessen the furore. 

Speaking to TheJournal.ie recently Irish Times film critic Donald Clarke recalled the fallout: 

“It was fascinating – I was very young at the time but old enough to remember it all happening. Spike was a TV series set in a Dublin school – a rough kitchen sink drama – and it trundled along fine and got respectable reviews and viewership. Until there was an episode with David Kelly playing an art teacher.

“The crucial difficulty was he had a life class and brought in a nude woman,” said Clarke.

“They didn’t show her fully frontally nude – she pressed her body to a frosted glass sheet through which she was viewed.”

The series was ended prematurely as a result of the scandal:

The show was taken off air and questions were asked in the Dáil. People were phoning up the radio stations furiously.

spike The controversial scene from The Spike. RTÉ RTÉ

‘Homewrecker’

Fast-forward to the 80s and 90s – a time when Sunday night drama staple Glenroe regularly topped the TV ratings. 

People occasionally had sex in the County Wicklow set soap but for years only one male character, Dick Moran (husband to the long-suffering Mary, businessman, rogue), appeared to be particularly interested in pursuing it outside the confines of his marriage. 

That all changed at Christmas in 1997 when the hero of the show, Miley (husband to Biddy, farmer, harmless), had a literal roll in the hay with his wife’s cousin, Fidelma. 

Such was the outrage, according to Eunice MacMenamin, who played Fidelma, that viewers took to venting their ire at the actress in the street. 

“I got the odd thing in the street in Dublin, but it was much more common in the country. People would say to me that their parents were disgusted and wouldn’t watch the programme any more because I was a homewrecker.

I was very proud of what we did, it pushed a boundary in its own way. It showed that people have sex in the country too.

Airing its first episode in 1989, six years after Glenroe, Fair City took a grittier approach to sex in Ireland – tackling issues like rape and domestic violence. 

Viewers of the show from the 1990s might also recall a controversy over what was billed as the first depiction of a gay kiss in an Irish drama. 

As the media landscape widened and attitudes moved on, post-2000, most viewers barely raised an eyebrow at more explicit depictions of sex in critically acclaimed dramas like Pure Mule (threesomes!) and Love/Hate (everything!). 

Then again, there are a few more episodes of Normal People yet to air on RTÉ. Joe Duffy may yet have a decent reason for wanting to call in sick. 

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    Mute Proinsias Ó Foghlú
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    Sep 2nd 2015, 2:17 PM

    TV is basically tabloid TV, Vinny is OK the rest tends to be crap.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:16 PM

    A show about Irish people emigrating to London. How edgy and unique. I’d nearly watch it to see what the producers definition of “interesting” is…. but I won’t.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:13 PM

    Watch TV3? Are you having a laugh?

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 2:51 PM

    Vinny is the only reason I switch the box on, looking forward to the documentary. He holds no punches and sides with no political party. Best entertainment on Irish television! Kenny is scared shitless of him!

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:35 PM

    Vincent knows more about Gerry than Gerry knows about himself. Should be interesting.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:41 PM

    At least it will be a genuine documentary. If rte made it there’d be horror music played in the background and it would be shot in black and white

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 2:13 PM

    It will be a rehash of the one TV3 made a few years ago about SF, except this time maybe having an interview with Gerry Adams rather than MMcG.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 2:22 PM

    Shinnerbots will deny the parts they don’t like and rave about the parts they do like.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 3:22 PM

    Dermo,I can get you a good deal on a satellite dish so you will be able to view all the South’s tv channels including tv3.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 4:46 PM

    One fiddy Dermo,good price,special price just for you.

    (Sterling)

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 5:53 PM

    Thanks Franco, but I’m an Irish citizen, resident in this State so I unfortunately get TV3 when I pay my TV licence. Are you in a similar boat?

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:10 PM

    I’m ecstatic.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:44 PM

    Vincent is the only show in town. I’d watch him no matter what station he worked for. Yes,even UTV Ireland, and that’s saying something.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:45 PM

    TV3,= copy and paste,

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:45 PM

    Vincent is no fan of SF … Expect a hatchet job .

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:49 PM

    He’s no fan of fainna fail, fine Gael, labour either. Expect an in depth balanced well written documentary

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 2:17 PM

    Supernova …. Last time TV3 did something on SF they edited out part if a conversation with former SF Cllr Killian Forde to make it sound like he was calling SF a cult .

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 2:19 PM

    I can not find fault with Vinny doing a hatchet job on SF. Their comrades in the IRA were experts in their usages.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 2:23 PM

    Good man Cillian, get your retaliation in first.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 2:25 PM

    Unionists/blueshirts assemble! #flutemusic

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 2:41 PM

    Thought Shinnerbots likes Vin B? Not so when he turns his eyes on their Dear Leader.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:52 PM

    What a complete load of sh!te

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 2:01 PM

    you’re a happy chappy

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:22 PM

    Isn’t TV3 owned by Denis O Brien?

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:36 PM

    At least we don’t have to pay licence fee for it Not owned by DOB

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:42 PM

    No.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 8:58 PM

    UPC owns TV3.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 3:37 PM

    I think Gerry will be destroyed in a debate by Vincent…

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 5:10 PM

    In defence of TV3, they don’t receive and tv licencing money….so at least we don’t have to pay for any of their crap

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 8:53 PM

    7% of the Licence Fee goes into the Broadcast Fund which is administered by the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland. The Broadcast Fund is paid out to applicants to fund specific programmes. For example, TV3′s gem “Danger! Amanda at Work” received a grant from the Broadcast Fund.

    Similarly, TV3′s drama “Red Rock” received a grant of €800,000 from the Broadcast Fund.

    (Source: IrishTimes.com 9 July 2015; http://www.bai.ie.)

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 10:40 PM

    I don’t think there’s any issue with the likes of Red Rock getting money but that other rehashed muck is deplorable.

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 1:59 PM

    Riveting – completely engrossing: compelling; the documentary is a riveting account of the freedom fighters journey through the troubled decades.

    Hahaha, sneak preview of the wording for the promo for Mr Adams aka ‘I was not in the PIRA’

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    Sep 2nd 2015, 5:30 PM

    I can only imagine how cringeworthy their version of Gogglebox will be, watch an Irish TV station yet again make a balls of what is an excellent programme.

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