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Column Centra’s gaffe isn’t the real problem here – our welfare system is

It’s not news that some benefits are spent on alcohol, writes Aaron McKenna. Time for a simple change to the system.

THERE ARE TRUTHS that we know to be self evident, yet persist in being outwardly shocked and surprised about.

Politicians tend to be corrupt. Bankers tend to be idiots. (And vice versa). And a fair enough proportion of social welfare gets spent on booze that retailers make sure to have their shelves stocked in time for red letter days, like the one that children’s allowance is disbursed.

This week brought a moral backlash against Centra for the promotional offers that coincided with that particular red letter day. We have seen an ongoing war on the vast majority of people who spend their welfare payments in a manner above reproach, and on the majority of us who enjoy alcohol sensibly. What we haven’t seen is very much of a focus on the delinquent individuals who spend money meant for children on alcohol, cigarettes and other afflictions.

The truth that such people exist is self evident, but as per usual it is everyone and everything else to blame without grasping the nettle.

If there isn’t already such a thing as an award for marketeers who inadvertently explode their simple little business onto the national stage for all the wrong reasons, it ought to be invented and given to the Centra franchise that decided combining alcohol, children and welfare on the one promotional leaflet would be a good idea.

We can all agree that advertising alcohol on a leaflet aimed at a social welfare day was in bad taste. But in so doing the Centra franchise at the heart of the matter was simply being a rational economic actor: If sales of a particular product spike around a specific event, stock up and put your best foot forward.

‘If there’s a heatwave, stock ice’

If there’s a hurricane coming, get batteries and flashlights. If there’s a heatwave, stock ice. And once a month, every month, stock up on nappies and booze. It’s such an open secret among retailers that its not a secret at all; that excluding holidays and special events the single most regular spike in alcohol sales comes on children’s allowance day.

That’s not Centra’s fault. Nor is it the fault of the great many recipients of the allowance who put it to the use it is intended. Neither is it the fault of the people too rich to actually need it, but who receive it anyway because our government is too inept to means test.

It is the fault of the individuals who make a conscious decision to go in and spend that cash on alcohol. The retailer can, in aggregate, see what sells particularly well on a particular day and make a judgement as to why it happened. They cannot, however, judge the provenience of the cash handed in by one consumer from another. Nor is it their role.

The government is ever fond of acting as an interfering nanny to us all, except it seems in controlling how welfare payments are spent. Welfare is, after all, designed with a specific purpose of ensuring nobody on this island should ever starve or go cold. This is an end that has very little to do with alcohol, cigarettes or trips abroad.

‘We shouldn’t be making it easy’

A great many people receiving welfare payments put it to good use. But the government could easily stamp out, or make more difficult, the misuse of hard earned money if it started issuing welfare payments on debit cards with certain restrictions.

I don’t think it would be unreasonable, for example, to expect that not a single red cent of children’s allowance be spent on beer or cigarettes. For sure there are those who could get around such a system by timing their shopping, but such individuals are likely to abuse any system to ensure they can sate whatever addictions they have. What we shouldn’t be doing is be making it easy for them.

We really do need to have a proper discussion in Ireland on what welfare is really meant for. There are those who believe that people should simply be handed cash, as today, and do with it as they please. On the other side, there are many fools who believe that life on welfare is lavish and misspent by most – a truth most evidently not true.

But in the middle I suspect are a great many people frustrated to see some – even a euro is too much – of what limited treasure we have to go round being squandered and added to the profits of Diageo, Philip Morris or the Westies.

Welfare is not free money to do whatever one likes with. It has a purpose, and achieving that end should be the goal of the disbursement method used to hand it out.

Aaron McKenna is a businessman and a columnist for TheJournal.ie. You can find out more about him at aaronmckenna.com or follow him on Twitter @aaronmckenna.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:34 AM

    I blame chemtrails, the rothchilds’s, fractional reserve banking, George Soros, the EU open border policy, the mainstream media, Denis O’Brien and FFG/Irish Water

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:10 PM

    @Dara O’Brien: ’baaaaaaaaa’

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    @Dara O’Brien: Wrong on all of the above usual suspects, it was obviously Kim Jong-Un and Cliff Richard in cahoots.

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    @Dara O’Brien: Keyser Soze?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:33 PM

    @Dara O’Brien: some of those things are responsible for bad things happening. Chemtrails are nonsense but Irish Water does exist. It’s a bit disingenuous to mix them all together like they’re all equally ridiculous conspiracy theories.

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    @Toomasu Sumitsu: baaaaaaaa

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:49 PM

    @Dara O’Brien: Not true, the no drone story was a miscommunication.

    “The suggestion there may not have been any drones at Gatwick Airport was a “miscommunication by police”, a government source has told the BBC.”

    ” During a conference call between ministers, chaired by Transport Secretary Chris Grayling, it was agreed the 67 drone sightings were legitimate.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46670714

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:36 PM

    @Toomasu Sumitsu: Irish water! Those bstds are out fixing water mains all over Dublin. Do they not care about the cost of all that? Don’t they know that water falls from the sky and is $£€€%÷== free?
    Don’t get me started on Irish water! Bstds!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 3:30 PM

    @Toomasu Sumitsu: rubbish.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:38 AM

    It was a bit odd that no photos emerged!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:26 PM

    @Maximus Decimus Meridius: no photos is understandable with the speed some drones are capabale of but no videos is a bit suspicious

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:55 PM

    @Maximus Decimus Meridius: No, there is footage of a quad copter drone over the airport…

    https://news.sky.com/video/gatwick-drone-caught-on-camera-in-unverified-footage-11587927

    Also, the no drones story was a miscommunication, a reporter was fishing for a story and pressed a police to say there could have been no drones…

    “The suggestion there may not have been any drones at Gatwick Airport was a “miscommunication by police”, a government source has told the BBC.”

    ” During a conference call between ministers, chaired by Transport Secretary Chris Grayling, it was agreed the 67 drone sightings were legitimate.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46670714

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:36 PM

    @Maximus Decimus Meridius: I’d say there are a few media outlets that wish there were no photos of the couple questioned in relation to the incident!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:32 AM

    Way to go!! Now they have just announced that the airport was closed down solely relying on “eye witness” calls and accounts, not verifiable confirmation of said drones.
    crackpots have just been told that a few phonecalls is going to cause mayhem.
    As if terrorists hadn`t got enough tools in their arsenal already

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:36 AM

    @Pixie McMullen: If eye-witnesses are not enough what would you require?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:37 AM

    @Squiddley Diddley: Video evidence of the drone actually over or around the airport would be a good start – anyone can ring up and say they saw one otherwise

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:46 AM

    @Pixie McMullen: Fair point.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:59 AM

    @Pixie McMullen: it’s no different than a bomb threat I suppose. They have to be investigated. Better safe than sorry. But saying that I had assumed the drone was seen and/or was being tracked by airport or the police

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:59 AM

    @Pixie McMullen: I thought there were videos on the news of drones in the air?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:39 PM

    @Pixie McMullen: they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t, had they not closed the airport and a plane was damaged or worse downed they would of been crucified, it was a no win situation for the police and the airport.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:40 PM

    @Pixie McMullen: they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t, had they not closed the airport and a plane was damaged or worse downed they would of been crucified, it was a no win situation for the police and the airport.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:42 PM

    @Jordan Dowd: LOL – 2 accounts……..Busted! :-)

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:47 PM

    @Pixie McMullen: not really I’m on my sons phone as mine has broken, it wouldn’t let me post on my fb account so I thought but it would On his twitter you can follow my fb account and see this is fact, I post in my own name and stand by anything that I post unlike these key board warriors that use fake names pixie

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    @Pixie McMullen: ouch!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:00 PM

    @Pixie McMullen: No, there is footage of a quad copter-drone over the airport…

    https://news.sky.com/video/gatwick-drone-caught-on-camera-in-unverified-footage-11587927

    Also, the no drones story was a from a reporter was fishing for a story and pressed a police officer to say there could have been no drones. He the reporter got his sound bit and ran with it…

    They are now saying the police office was wrong…

    “The suggestion there may not have been any drones at Gatwick Airport was a “miscommunication by police”, a government source has told the BBC.”

    ”During a conference call between ministers, chaired by Transport Secretary Chris Grayling, it was agreed the 67 drone sightings were legitimate.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46670714

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:11 PM

    @David Jordan: That makes more sense David, i was only going by what the journal report said.

    Jaysus Kathy, calm down before you have a coronary, i couldn`t care lees if you had 10 accounts, i just thought it was funny

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:20 PM

    @Pixie McMullen: lol I’m always calm you’d know that if you were my friend if you’d like to FB friends request me I’ll even introduce you to my sons wayne and Cameron you’ve already met jordan, have a lovely Christmas, chat soon ;)

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    @Kathy Paul Dowd: Happy Christmas Kathy :-) I hope you have a good one

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    Dec 24th 2018, 3:58 PM

    @Pixie McMullen:
    And what if there was a drone with an explosive charge waiting near the runway to attack a plane on take off or landing when they are especially vulnerable?

    Not something you’d want to take a chance on .

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:28 AM

    Dear God no! The conspiracy theorists will be in overdrive.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:51 AM

    @Paraic: its ok they can use the left over tin foil from the turkey to make some nice new hats.

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    @Paraic: they were the ones calling it in

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:42 AM

    OOoop! Imagine the Garda being that honest.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:56 AM

    The culprit is the person that broke into the Irish presidents house,evading all security personnel and found in the president’s office and escaped as no name was ever given or charges brought. Strange times.

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    I smell compo!!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:41 AM

    And these guys voted for and are organising Brexit…

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:41 AM

    I blame, I blame…..someone!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:05 PM

    @Malcolm Smith: it wasn’t .meal olm. Honest

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:07 PM

    @Patricia Mcnamara: should read. It wasn’t me, Mal colm. Honest. Damed.predictive text and my old fingers

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    @Patricia Mcnamara: ah duck it, it’ll be alright!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:34 PM

    @Patricia Mcnamara: yea right, we believe you!

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:13 PM

    Surely they have cameras that they can look at and them confirm if there were drones?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:13 PM

    @Emer Daly: There is footage of a possible quad copter drone over the airport…

    https://news.sky.com/video/gatwick-drone-caught-on-camera-in-unverified-footage-11587927

    Notice the square outline.

    The police just clarified that there was a miscommunication, there were in fact 67 verified sightings of one or more drones over the airport. Seems a reporter was fishing for a story and pressed a police officer to say there might have been no drones. He got his little sound bite and that sells papers.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:42 AM

    Rudolph & Santa?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:08 PM

    @DeFonz: nope. Rudis red nose would have been a giveaway.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:15 PM

    @Patricia Mcnamara: Christmas cheer starting a bit early there Patricia ?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:39 PM

    @Pounamustone: to my horror I have become a Sherry swigger in old age. I sigh for my whisky drinking youthful days. But my hips forbid me to be tipsy. Happy Winter fest.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:04 PM

    Why didn’t they ask for advice from Shane Ross?

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    Dec 24th 2018, 11:40 AM

    Omg UFOS over gatwick airport

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:05 PM

    Why, because they were unable to deal with the situation let’s pretend it never happened.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:58 PM

    Can’t believe everyone is still droning on about this story………

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:55 PM

    Misleading headline is misleading.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:04 PM

    The no drones story was a miscommunication, a reporter was fishing for a story and pressed a police officer to say there could have been no drones, he got his sound bite and ran with the story.

    The are now saying there was a drone(s) over the airport…

    “The suggestion there may not have been any drones at Gatwick Airport was a “miscommunication by police”, a government source has told the BBC.”

    ”During a conference call between ministers, chaired by Transport Secretary Chris Grayling, it was agreed the 67 drone sightings were legitimate.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46670714

    Also, there is footage of a possible quad copter drone over the airport…

    https://news.sky.com/video/gatwick-drone-caught-on-camera-in-unverified-footage-11587927

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:25 PM

    Stupid media and especially Piers Morgan publishing and promoting images of the couple brought in for questioning should be sued out of existence.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 2:33 PM

    @Dave O’Keeffe:
    He is apologizing like

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    Dec 24th 2018, 2:33 PM

    @Aine O Connor:
    Already

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    Dec 24th 2018, 7:00 PM

    @Aine O Connor: by retweeying the picture. He didn’t delete it immediately he retweeted it instead

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:58 PM

    Breejits

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:41 PM

    This effort just keeps getting funnier. The gift that keeps on giving. UFO sightings over Gatwick a more believable story.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 2:08 PM

    Crawley’s are Gona have some case against the papers for being Grade A Pr!cks and rightly so.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:29 PM

    It’s all a bit like Brexit really The UK is in a mess “total cock up of a police investigation “

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:30 PM

    GREAT Britain …

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    Dec 24th 2018, 3:53 PM

    @Batster: G B. Grotty brexit

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:15 PM

    It was a UFO

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    Dec 24th 2018, 5:29 PM

    Russians did it, or can they play that again

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    Dec 24th 2018, 12:54 PM

    No way seeing no footage..

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:08 PM

    @Sportmad: Here is footage of a possible quad copter-drone over the airport…

    https://news.sky.com/video/gatwick-drone-caught-on-camera-in-unverified-footage-11587927

    The latest news is that a reporter pressed a police officer to say there might have been no drones over the airport, the reporter got his soundbite and that sells papers. T he police have just clarified that there were 67 verified sighting of one or more drones over the airport.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:21 PM

    @David Jordan: are you aware sky is a murdoch thing.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 1:50 PM

    Arseholes.

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    Dec 24th 2018, 4:45 PM

    A bit of a mess all round

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    Dec 24th 2018, 3:12 PM

    An Post have a drone hiding in the G.P.O. Made me wonder…

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    Dec 25th 2018, 2:23 AM

    UFOs lol

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