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Trump launches new attack on postal voting, saying it could be the 'scandal of our times'

The US President has made unsubstantiated assertions that foreign countries will print millions of bogus ballots to rig the election.

US PRESIDENT DONALD Trump has opened a new front in his fight against postal voting, making unsubstantiated assertions that foreign countries will print millions of bogus ballots to rig this year’s US presidential election.

Trump tweeted about this envisaged outcome, saying it would be the “scandal of our times”, even as it emerged vice-president Mike Pence and several senior advisers to Trump had voted by mail repeatedly.

His claims not only ignore safeguards that states have implemented to prevent fraud but also risk undermining Americans’ faith in the election, spreading the very kind of disinformation US authorities have warned foreign adversaries could use to foment doubt in the voting process.

With health officials saying postal voting can help prevent the spread of the coronavirus, many states are moving ahead with plans to enhance access to mail-in ballots.

Trump accelerated his attacks following a bruising weekend for his reelection campaign, when a low turnout at an election rally in Oklahoma left him seething, and as he seeks a second term during the worst unemployment since the Great Depression.

The rhetoric, coming as states scramble to adjust voting processes because of the Covid-19 pandemic, represents a two-track approach: trying to both block postal balloting in advance, and setting the stage for challenging the results once the poll is over.

“It’s a way of trying to turn the foreign interference claims that have been made on their head,” Richard Hasen, an election law expert at the University of California, Irvine, said.

“Typically we’ve heard that the Russian government and others were working to help elect Trump, and here is Trump using fears of foreign interference as a way of bolstering his own side.

“This potentially lays the groundwork for him contesting election results.”

Pence and others used postal votes

Election records obtained by the Associated Press show that Pence and at least five senior advisers to the president have voted by post.

More than three years after leaving the Indiana governor’s residence, Pence still lists that as his official residence and votes absentee accordingly. Education Secretary Betsy DeVos has permanent absentee voting status in her home state of Michigan.

Brad Parscale, Trump’s campaign manager, voted absentee in Texas in 2018. He did not vote in the 2016 general election, when Trump’s name was on the ballot.

Two other senior Trump campaign officials — chief operating officer Michael Glassner and deputy campaign manager Bill Stepien — have repeatedly voted by mail in New Jersey. And Nick Ayers, a senior campaign adviser who was previously chief of staff to Pence, has voted by mail in Georgia since 2014.

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Still, others in the administration have recently promoted the notion that states could be inundated with fraudulent ballots from overseas.

Attorney General William Barr raised that prospect in interviews in recent weeks with the New York Times Magazine and Fox News.

“Right now, a foreign country could print up tens of thousands of counterfeit ballots, and (it would) be very hard for us to detect which was the right and which was the wrong ballot,” Barr told Fox in an interview that aired on Sunday.

The president tweeted a news report on Mr Barr’s remarks yesterday, as well as sending an all-caps tweet: “RIGGED 2020 ELECTION: MILLIONS OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS WILL BE PRINTED BY FOREIGN COUNTRIES, AND OTHERS. IT WILL BE THE SCANDAL OF OUR TIMES!”

‘Attempt to rewrite reality’

Democratic candidate Joe Biden’s campaign later issued a statement calling Trump’s tweets “a desperate attempt to rewrite reality to revive this President’s faltering re-election campaign”.

“We will not stand by while Donald Trump recklessly undermines faith in our democratic process,” campaign manager Jen O’Malley Dillon said.

Experts say Trump’s doomsday scenario is far-fetched.

“Comments like that demonstrate an ignorance of by-mail voting and the technology associated with how it actually works,” Eddie Perez, global director of technology development at the OSET Institute, a non-profit election technology research corporation, said.

“There are more protocols than people are probably aware of, which would make such an attack rather difficult.”

Though fraud in absentee balloting is rare, it is possible other problems could arise as people vote by the mail, including ballots being intercepted in a mailbox and tampered with.

The National Conference of State Legislatures lists on its website multiple disadvantages to the process, including slower reporting of results and the possibility that voters could be coerced by family members.

But the list does not broach the idea of foreign countries manufacturing their own ballots — a type of fraud that would encounter significant practical obstacles, not least because states say they are adept at differentiating legitimate ballots from inauthentic ones.

The ballots used by Colorado’s 64 individual counties are printed exclusively in the United States, distinguished by specific colours and target areas and processed through sensitive scanners designed to weed out anything inauthentic, Secretary of State Jena Griswold said.

A bipartisan team of election judges conducts signature verification and refers for further investigation suspected instances of double-voting.

And in Washington state, each county is responsible for printing its own ballots, which are placed inside a security envelope or sleeve. Voters’ signatures on return ballots are cross-checked against the signature on voter registration applications. The state says if a signature is missing or does not match the voter registration record, voters are contacted.

Five states — Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah and Washington — conduct elections entirely by mail, according to the NCSL. But nearly all states, led by Democratic and Republican governors alike, offer some form of the option.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 8:41 AM

    He’s not going to go quietly

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 11:16 AM

    @John McSweeney: You know what though, it’s times like these that great leaders show their people just why they are in this position and rose to challenges and protect their population. These are times where great leaders are underscored in history and immortalised.

    Just US currently has a terrible self obsessed leader!

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 2:18 PM

    @John McSweeney: “I’m hiding in plain sight, Vlad, just like you said. Now, here’s what I think you should do…”

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 8:20 AM

    “RIGGED 2020 ELECTION: MILLIONS OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS WILL BE PRINTED BY FOREIGN COUNTRIES”.
    Did he really tweet that? Millions ?
    Even taking it at face value, do they not know how many people are eligible to vote? That “millions” of additional votes would not be detected.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:20 AM

    @Hector Son: he still maintains 3 million illegally voted for Hillary, funny that’s the number more votes she received than him.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:25 AM

    @Hector Son: He and all his family vote by mail.
    As has his Press Secretary.

    As does a woman I work with.

    He is panicking, he’s an absolute hypocritical disgrace.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:45 AM

    @Tricia G: so do Pence and his wife

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:01 AM

    @Hector Son: *only if he loses

    (Please let him lose)

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 8:44 AM

    I read articles about Trump re-election campaign 2 years ago. It pointed out if he lost he would likely claim it was a scam and try and stay in office. This seems likely now as he does the prep work now.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 8:53 AM

    @Craic_a_tower: That is exactly what is going to happen.
    He will try to cling to power by any means possible.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:14 AM

    @Fred the Muss…: Do ex-presidents have immunity from prosecution? Without that he may try to hang on even when he loses.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:28 AM

    @James Walsh: no and Trump is going to have a lot of enemies and not much support. He doesn’t have a political legacy that would defend him. Lot of Republicans hate him too. The only possible defence they may offer him is if Trump supporters turn on the republicans but that is unlikely. Many would never vote democrat so will still vote republican regardless. The many Trump vocal people are just having a day in the sun and wouldn’t be inclined to be so loud for other causes.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 4:00 PM

    @James Walsh: Unless he resigns prior to election and gets a presidential pardon from Pence.

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    Jun 24th 2020, 12:56 AM

    @mcdb06: The problem with that is the pardon removes 5th amendment protection so he’d be obliged to testify on any issue he gets subpoenaed on. This is why he hasn’t pardoned any of the eight who have so far gone to prison because of him.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 8:19 AM

    Stain on humanity.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:57 AM

    @Mel Fitzpatrick: Have a look at Seattle and tell me who is the stain on humanity

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:15 AM

    @Crispy Brown: He just did tell you who is a stain on humanity. You just don’t like who he said.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:26 AM

    @Crispy Brown: Fake news from a Fake Leader

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:39 AM

    @Crispy Brown: True, the people who started all of it are a stain on humanity. The leader of a country that allows people to be choked to death is a stain on humanity

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:46 AM

    @Crispy Brown: I just had a look, its Trump.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:13 AM

    Surely the “scandal of our times” is him getting to be President in the first place? That is a shame the US will have to live with no matter who wins in November.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:22 AM

    Donald Trump refused to say in 2016 he’d accept the election result.
    With Bill Barr in the Justice Dept and at least 10 Obstruction of Justice charges waiting for him WHY would he accept the results of any future election.

    He’s made his stance VERY clear.

    That being said, whether he accepts the results or not, if he loses the election (and right now he’s going all out on Voter suppression) you would have to hope he’d receive no support to stay in the White House.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:39 AM

    @Tricia G: Unfortunately the Republican party is now the Trump party. Bill Barr, Mitch Mc Connell, Pompeo et al have consistently put Trump before their party or country. Trump has appointed over a hundred judges at district level and two at supreme level, he’s banking on their unyielding support. And the justice department is looking like Trump’s personal protection mob. I’d imagine this will be one of the most toxic and divisive election ever held in the States. He won’t go easily, and those around him won’t hold him accountable. November will be ugly.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:04 AM

    @Paula: even if he loses he will claim it’s a fix. That’s what he is doing now: setting the scene to claim voter fraud. And the Hilbilly armed militias will back him all the way.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:16 AM

    @Connoroconner: oh absolutely I 100% agree with that. The republican party and those in his administration will back him no matter what, it seems. The only republicans who have stood up to him were Mc Cain and Romney. If the military are the same as the Republican party, then there’s a possibility of a very dangerous break in their society.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:19 AM

    The Dem’s have shown they will do and say anything to get Trump out. Sadly the main stream media are compliant in the lies too. I hope the silent majority get out and vote Trump back in for 4 more years. He’s been great for workers, military, law enforcement and common sense.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:21 AM

    @Crispy Brown: Trump and ‘common sense’ mentioned in the same breath…I think I just wet myself laughing!

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:22 AM

    @Crispy Brown: the dems will say and do anything ??? Have you not been watching the clown and chief for the last 3 years.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:49 AM

    @Crispy Brown: the dems……the left…..the MSM…..all buzz words you’ve only learned in the last 4 years….get off your soapbox and ACTUALLY open your mind

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    @Crispy Brown: if ‘ability to conquer ramp’ and ‘drink glass of water’ were prerequisites for being elected he’d be in with a decent chance.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:05 AM

    @Crispy Brown: there is nothing “silent” about trump supporters, the great shower of foghorns the world has ever known

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    @Crispy Brown: So its not your hero who has screwed up repeatedly and broken the law and lied and cheated.
    It is everybody else at fault

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:45 AM

    @Crispy Brown: bahahaha common sense and trump in the same sentence is bloody funny……its like saying trump was never a draft dodger

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:58 AM

    @Crispy Brown: here fishy fishy fishy fishy fishy fishy!

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 1:20 PM

    @Crispy Brown: You must be just trolling for some perverse laugh as no ones that stupid

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 2:55 PM

    @Crispy Brown: Whomever takes a stand against the riots, looting and stand-up tent cities will win. The sleeping majority are starting to wake up to the fact that local government, media and big tech are either doing nothing or fanning the flames. Commies have landed.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 7:57 PM

    @Crispy Brown: Shill account.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:17 AM

    Mike pence and his wife voted by mail as recently as this year. One rule for them I guess.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 8:25 AM

    And yet Trump is unconcerned about proven interference and manipulation of voting. He’s such a transparent, artless liar and fool.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:23 AM

    The irony of all this is that postal voting tends to favour the Repubs as it gives a higher representation of older voters than in person voting.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 8:49 AM

    as if 2020 on its own isn’t a scandal of our times.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:16 AM

    Donny being in office is the “scandal of our times” Nobody has mentioned the “Stormy scandal of his times”
    Selective amnesia seems to be the order of the day in the Brown Clowns tainted little world.. .

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 12:19 PM

    Of all the great minds in America, is Trump the best they can offer? And Joe Biden is no spring chicken… something has to change in America, and it should begin at the top.
    Trump has brought the office of President down to warped devisive public comments on Twitter, what a sad way for a amazing country to be in.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:47 AM

    Didn’t he win most states with universal mail in options last time?

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 9:56 AM

    @Dave O’Keeffe: He has even used postal voting in 2016… He is just himself again…

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 12:01 PM

    Apparently there is a massive amount of steps to falsifying a postal vote and numerous checks the form goes through before the vote is actually granted. If you were to try to use that of a recently deceased person for example, which is the example I’ve heard a lot of people using, there is almost no chance that that would slip through the net. It is punishable by a year in prison I think. It seems a massive amount of risk to take for one vote against someone who going by the polls will be gone in November anyway. It is a convenient drum for him to beat if he does lose though, which I think is his main motivation.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:46 AM

    crazier than a box of frogs springs to mind with trump these days

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 8:27 AM

    Coming out with this bull in preparation for his lose in Nov.
    Oh please god lose. Cannot listen to this idiot for another 4 years.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 8:45 AM

    @Pád:
    Biden winning in opinion polls and crucially in betting odds too. If it was held today Biden would be president. With 2020 the way it is you dont know what might happen between now and November.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:23 AM

    @Maurice: With 2020 the way it is, Shergar could appear and become the Democratic nominee and become President..

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:24 AM

    @Maurice: yeah because those fake news media opinion polls and bookies were real accurate in 2016. Trump 2020!

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 1:31 PM

    @Pádraig O Kane: Well they kinda were, in that they said Clinton would win the popular vote, which she did. They were just wrong about who would be president.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 5:42 PM

    @Gareth Murphy: Incorrect. The bookies were not making bets on popular vote. They were making bets on who became President. That’s why they paid me money for backing President Trump.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 1:17 PM

    The real scandal is Republican Mayors or Governors reducing the amount of ballot boxes available in areas where there is a stronghold of democrat voters. I read of one area where there is one ballot box for over 100,000 voters and of course this was a mainly black and mixed race area which usually don’t vote for Trump….. Disgusting abuse of power to deny all people their right to vote in a fair and unobstructed manner.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 1:49 PM

    @Dara Mac Fhionnain: It’s shocking how hard it is for thousands of US voters to get to a polling station. The efforts they have to make just to reach the few places and queue alone is so bad.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 4:49 PM

    @Dara Mac Fhionnain: that’s the game right there. He has more than enough republican governors to pull it off too

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 12:15 PM

    If a foreign power can postal vote then you’d think he’d be all for this after the last time.

    My guess is its due to them closing postal booths in poor areas and making it difficult for those most effected, to vote.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:31 AM

    He knows he’s losing and is conditioning his minions. They have guns and already hate the Fedrul Guvmint. He’s already done a dry run in the bunker. This is gonna get ugly

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 11:35 AM


    Pity it’s so serious because he is great entertainment

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 1:50 PM

    @Michael Murray: A massive voter suppression is his best hope at this stage, he’s polling at 4% among African-Americans!

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:39 AM

    If thousands of dems can riot and protest than surely they can pop down to the polling station whats the problem with that ? Sure look at west virginia last month a postman was charged with altering votes

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:48 AM

    @sean bergin: Who was the votes been changed to. Postal voting is a safer way to vote in the US than a lot of countries.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 10:48 AM

    @sean bergin: and the trump nuts with guns who tried storming their local government buildings cos they thought covid19 was some sort of fake news conspiracy aren’t able to lick a stamp like they lick the windows each day isnt any worse

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 12:30 PM

    If Biden wins the US presidential election which he should I can see Trump sewing raw prawns into all the curtains in the white house. That would be some stink among many others for the new guy to sort out.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 1:52 PM

    @Raymond Dennehy: Not to mention all the toxic orange sludge which is going to be there anyway! Serious deep clean needed ASAP.

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 1:46 PM

    If he could just go…

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    Jun 23rd 2020, 3:51 PM

    This arsehole is going to start a civil war or at the very least an ugly heavily armed confrontation.
    It’s pure politics of hate
    Divided and conquer at its most vile

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