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A fishing boat at work in the English Channel, after the UK left the European Union in January. PA

So long and thanks for all the fish: Irish fishermen say UK Brexit position could spell 'unmitigated disaster'

Today had been the date set for both sides to reach an agreement on fisheries. But of course, more time is needed.

THE DISPUTE ABOUT fisheries is a major issue in Brexit talks.

Although a debate between the UK and EU around immigration has garnered more headlines in recent years, fishing rights are perhaps the most tangible example of why the UK wanted to leave in the first place. 

Around half of Ireland’s fishing catch take place in UK waters. According to the Department of Agriculture and the Marine, Ireland’s Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) made up 10% of the EU’s EEZ, and the UK’s EEZ made up 17%.

After Brexit, Ireland’s waters will make up 12% of EU waters.

Now that the UK is leaving (and, theoretically, taking its waters with it) Ireland’s fishermen and fishing industry are under threat of being locked out of waters that had been frequented by Irish trawlers long before either country joined the EU. 

As it currently stands, the UK is still in the transition period, meaning it’s still abiding by the EU fishing rules of the Common Fisheries Policy. This dictates that EU fishing fleets have access to the 6-12 nautical mile limit around each country’s coast, and neighbouring countries have access to the 0-6 mile zone.

A preliminary target date for the fisheries agreement to be struck was today, 1 July – but as of yesterday afternoon, the two sides were still debating the shape of the new fisheries arrangement to be in place between the EU and UK from next year. 

These negotiations are now expected to go on for most of July and August, and possibly into the autumn. Negotiators from Brussels are hoping the UK will give EU members access to its fishing waters so that the UK can gain access to the Single Market in return. 

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Patrick Murphy, CEO of the Irish South & West Fish Producers Organisation Ltd said that when Ireland first joined the EU in 1973 – the EEC as it then was – it had enough fish in its own waters and close by around the UK waters, that crews from here didn’t need to develop fishing sources elsewhere.

French and Spanish coasts go too deep to trawl in, he said, so those fishermen come to the continental shelf around Ireland, the UK and Iceland where the fish come to spawn.

“We’ve the jewel in the future of European waters: our fish, they come to spawn here, they go to the juvenile stage and they swim off to all the other countries.”

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But now that the UK is leaving, it’s losing half of its fishing grounds because it only ever fished in its immediate area. 

Irish crews fear that if there’s no deal on fisheries and the UK leaves the EU, the waters around Ireland will see even more traffic from Spanish, French and other European trawlers. 

“If you look at all the other countries, the nomads we’ll call them, they came to Ireland and England. So, even though they lose [British] grounds, they can still come into Ireland’s grounds,” said Murphy.

“We’re going to see hundreds of boats coming in on top of us if we don’t get an agreement.

So we not only lose our other farm, we have to share the little one we have with everybody else, and we have the smallest share of fish in that farm. The French would have 10 times our monkfish quota in the Celtic Sea than we would.

This latter point about quotas is made by other fishermen too – that when Ireland entered the EU, there was more of an emphasis on agriculture than on fish, and because of that fisheries “didn’t get as good a deal as we would have hoped”.

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The UK had pushed for trade talks to be split into various sectors – with fisheries split out from other trade issues. But the EU has fought against that, and they are currently being negotiated as part of the one trade deal.

Murphy insisted a fisheries agreement must remain part of the trade talks agenda. Sean O’Donoghue, CEO of the Killybegs Fisherman’s Organisation in Co Donegal, agrees.

“If fisheries was split out from trade talks, we’re in really deep trouble,” O’Donoghue said, adding that if there isn’t a fisheries deal, there won’t be a trade deal.

Access to UK waters

John Ward is CEO of the Irish Fish Producers Organisation, which represents owners of trawlers and other commercial fishing vessels. He said that if Ireland loses access to UK waters, it would have “a tremendous negative effect on the Irish fishing fleet”.

“Particularly for the two main species that we fish – being mackerel and prawns.”

64% of Ireland’s largest fishery, mackerel, and 43% of our second biggest fishery, prawns, is caught in UK waters.

Mackerel migrate from the west coast of Norway, down the west coast of the UK, and the west coast of Ireland down to Biscay. They are available at different times and different areas, and we would fish a lot of our mackerel quota in UK waters.

“If we didn’t have access to UK waters, we would only be able to fish mackerel, let’s say, in February, March, maybe April.”

O’Donoghue said that it would be “an unmitigated disaster for us”.

“If you look at it over 10 years, we’re over 60% dependent on catches of mackerel in the UK. We’re about 40% overall for all species. We share about over 50 species with the UK – the fish don’t recognise borders in the sea, as such.

The UK vessels do fish quite a bit in our waters, but we fish more in their waters than they do in ours.

He said that if we lost access to UK waters, it would halve the value of the seafood sector in two years.

It would halve the size of the seafood sector, which is about €1.22 billion in value of the seafood industry. We would see that drop to €600 or 700 million of there was no deal for a long period of time. We would lose around 4,000 to 5,000 jobs of around 16,000 in the fishing industry [which includes ancillary services like production].

He said the numbers may seem small, but they are vital to coastal communities in Ireland. The fishing sector makes up 25% of employment along Donegal’s coasts.

So what do fishermen want?

According to Murphy: “If you’re asking what do fishermen want, boil it down – we want to be protected.

“And the way we want to be protected … first of all we want the sustainability of the stock protected. We want to know how many boats are going to be allowed to come into Irish waters if the English kick them out. That’s first and foremost, it’s called displacement.”

Murphy is worried about an influx of boats coming in around Irish shores to fish there, and the danger that poses for the quality and sustainability of fish stock. It would be like hosting a football tournament, he says – but having all the teams play at once instead of one-on-one. 

“So at the moment there’s a balance – boats fish all around the place, they have different ways of fishing. But if you condense them into one area, and they all keep running on the same grass at the same time, the grass won’t stand up. That’s nature. I think it’s the same for fishing.

“They want to keep the same [Common Fisheries Policy], even though the UK is taking away one third of the waters and one third of the fish out of the pot.”

“England and Ireland would be the kingpins over the fishing industry in Europe if we had nobody else there. We would be the guys with the goldmines.”

This week marks the first face-to-face Brexit talks since the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic. They are being held in Brussels, with the level playing field request by the EU still proving to be the biggest stumbling block to agreeing a deal. 

Negotiators have until the end of the year to reach an EU-UK trade deal; the UK had he option of requesting an extension, but have refused that option repeatedly. The deadline to avail of that offer was yesterday, 30 June.

A claim was made in this article that over two-thirds of the EU’s fishing waters, and two-thirds of the EU’s fishing catch, belong to Ireland and the UK. This article by FullFact found that the waters around the UK make up 13% of EU waters. The UK government has accepted this proportion in a statement to FullFact.

But in a statement provided to TheJournal.ie, the Department of Agriculture and Marine said that Ireland’s Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) made up 10% of the EU’s EEZ and the UK’s EEZ made up 17%. After Brexit, Irish waters will make up 12% of EU waters.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:34 AM

    We need to see good quality leadership for a change. Gender not important

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    Nov 25th 2014, 10:21 AM

    So what she means is that we need to see more women like Lorraine Higgins….who has lost all four elections that she ran for and is now a Senator because Kenny put her there. So demonstrating that the will fo teh people matters not.

    So we need more women who don’t understand the meaning of utopia.

    Need more women to lie about what there being told on the door steps.

    What we need are more women who listen to the people and have a brain and have an interest in Thiosd country and that will put us first.

    Its not a gender issue its a capability issue!!!!!

    10-12-2014

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    Nov 25th 2014, 10:23 AM
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    Nov 25th 2014, 12:59 PM

    Sorry emmet that was sooo sexist * uses my victim card*

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    Nov 25th 2014, 5:57 PM

    #dec10

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:26 PM

    What has Frances F ever done for anyone that wasn’t begging a cheap vote in return? She’s only in there by luck and chance after FF imploded….

    - She is a role model to no soul.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:47 PM

    Tell joan the phone that, if she had any balls at all she would have folded this Government.

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    Nov 26th 2014, 11:53 AM

    Murph you right what a load of crap. If Enda Kenny is their chosen one they don,t know any thing about leadership. This plonker has lost the people.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:27 AM

    I would love to see more women in Politics .. Women that work for the people ….. Women that are not involved with Political Parties that hurt those that are finding it hard to survive ..women that listen to the people… Would you not agree Ms Fitzgerald. . ???

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:47 AM

    “Who would have thought women would be in the sex trade in 2016″

    Frances planning to eliminate the oldest profession in the world ??? (holds hands in head)
    Notable albeit naive aspiration

    Herself and O Riordan are spending too much time alone and believing their own bull$hit.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:24 AM

    We need to rear a nation of Joan Burton..a successful female role model. Put a bit of manners on Samsung and Apple too with those sinister smartphones.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 12:11 PM

    Or wonderful examples such as Gemma Hussey, Alice Glenn, Mary Robinson, Mary Harney, Lucinda Creighton, the last Rehab CEO….the list of self-serving Luddite feminist-type ‘leaders’ is awe-inspiring and endless to be sure!!

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:42 PM

    Yes, the current and previous lot would not be examples to learn from. burton is a disgrace to humanity.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:16 AM

    It would be great to see more women in politics. As long as they’re not in fg ff and labour. Then it’s fine

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:12 AM

    Correct Minister and lets hope the leaders they see are more like Maureen O’Sullivan TD & Cllr Brid Smith than like you.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:31 AM

    The gender equality issue has to do with the enormous power that the catholic church had and to a large extent still has in this country and its legacy. It still has an iron grip on our educational system and our health system.
    The sheer hypocrisy of the Government, in fact all governments have shown when dealing with this issue is baffling. Plenty of sound bytes but no real action, it would upset a bunch of old male virgins wearing pointed hats.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:29 AM

    Bullsh Joseph. Pretty much every society across the world discrminates against women and it did not take the Catholic church to achieve that. Nor religion more generally. It is part of the human power game in which male physical strength is translated into social power.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 9:59 AM

    Religion (no matter what flavor) discriminates against women. The Main and most powerful religion is in Ireland was/is Catholicism.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:43 AM

    Does she know of any good male or female leaders , what happened the file of over 200 complaints against guarda, b4 she even opened it she said most would be malicious claims bla bla bla and yet she still has done nothing

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    Nov 25th 2014, 2:00 PM

    Frances YOU have to prove yourself a LOT more….but guess its too late for that now

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:23 AM

    Frances Firzgerald. Taoiseach 2016-2021

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    Nov 25th 2014, 9:26 PM

    Perish the thought

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:23 PM

    Quality is more important then gender p Healy eames lucinda creighton must set back women’s equality by years.women who believe they belong in the 1920s

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:05 PM

    Women have more to prove? What a gender-neurotic comment.

    She obviously has never felt the weight of expectation that has encumbered men since time immemorial: an onus of expectation that tells us we need to be successful, respected and employed in a ‘manly’ job at all costs, lest we be seen as less of a ‘man’ – both by society and by ourselves – and thereby worthless to the world.

    More and more men and becoming suicide statistics simply because we can no longer deal with this weight of expectation. Yet here we have this ‘gender-neuroticism’ that operates on the assumption that women always have it worse!

    In any case I don’t believe it possible to quantify the level of struggle for the purpose of comparison between the two genders. Men and women suffer in different ways. Sadly, men tend to suffer in silence, and it is that silence that leads to the presumption that we do not suffer at all, or at least that our suffering is of a much weaker magnitude than that of women.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:49 PM

    And guess what she just appointed a woman garda commissioner who worked wit Callinan.

    What a sexist waste of space this Frances Fitzgerald is !

    She has done nothing of any value …. ever !

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:48 AM

    It is interesting how people respond to role models and why gender identity is an important factor in one. This is something I’ve always been curious about.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:40 AM

    How am I supposed to succeed in life with so few left-handed role models? :’(

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    Nov 25th 2014, 9:31 AM

    So few left handed role models? Are you serious, bleeding everyone’s a lefty these days.

    What about Kermit the Frog? He’s deadly.

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