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MINISTER FOR FOREIGN Affairs Simon Coveney has said he does not think international flights should be banned from landing in Ireland.
Speaking at a post-Cabinet briefing, the minister said tourists should not be coming into Ireland if they cannot restrict their movements when they get here.
Currently, it is not legally mandatory for someone to be detained to ensure they are self-isolating. Anyone arriving in Ireland must fill out a passenger locator form with their name, contact details and where they will be self-isolating for 14 days.
The Tánaiste Leo Varadkar has previously stated that mandatory quarantine is not workable, something the Taoiseach Micheál Martin and Transport Minister Eamon Ryan has also agreed with.
Passenger locator form
Coveney said the government was beefing up its supports to contact those who have filled in the passenger locator form once arriving in Ireland, something that was committed to last week by Cabinet.
“Irish people who are holidaying in counties like Kerry and many others want to know that they can go and holiday with their family safely.
“So we are considering as a government the measures we can take to improve communications, to introduce improved protocols at airports and to ensure that the passenger locator form that passengers come into Ireland are required to fill out that they can move it online to make sure that we can stand over the accuracy of the information that was given.
“We are looking at putting in place a call centre which would follow up using that information that comes from the passenger locator forms,” he said.
“Don’t forget there is a legal requirement on anyone that comes into Ireland to fill out a passenger locator form.
“If a follow up takes place and shows they aren’t in the location that they have indicated that they’d be staying at I think it could well be deemed that they filled out that form in an inaccurate way which would be against the law and the penalties are quite severe for that,” said Coveney.
No ban on international travel
The minister said the government is constantly trying to get the balance right between deterring people coming to Ireland and only encouraging people who need to come to Ireland, who perhaps are returning home, to restrict their movements while here.
“I don’t think we should prevent flights from landing in Ireland or ban international travel as it isn’t the approach we’ve taken.
“We’re going to meet again as a Cabinet on Wednesday to discuss international travel and we will be finalising decisions in relation to international travel in a Cabinet meeting next Monday.
Coveney also addressed recent concerns about US flights landing in Ireland.
“We have between 200-250 people a day arriving from the US that’s in the context of about 4,500 people a day arriving into Ireland. The majority of those people are Irish people coming home.
“One of the flights from Dallas which has been the subject of some attention from the media and social media – there were only 16 people on that flight is my understanding,” he said.
On the issue of people arriving in Ireland and not filling out the passenger locator form, the minister said that it’s already a possibility that if people fill out your passenger form incorrectly you will face a punishment.
“If you pretend you’re staying somewhere and you’re not staying there and then your subsequently shown to have deliberately essentially falsified the information on your form then you can be charged and from my recollection, if my recollection is right you can be at risk of being jailed for a short period of time and face a very hefty fine for that,” said Coveney.
“This isn’t simply about the State wanting to know where you are well, that’s important too in the context of contract tracing if that’s needed but it’s also about asking you where you’re staying for 14 days.
“And if you’re lying to us, you’re breaking the law.
“That’s a very clear message that goes with the legislation that underpins the passenger locator form and the obligation that comes with that.
“And I think that perhaps there hasn’t been enough focus on that legal obligation,” added Coveney.
NPHET
Dr Ronan Glynn told reporters this evening that from a public health point of view, “mandatory quarantine would be a desirable measure”.
He said anyone who has to take a flight… and people do need to travel for a variety of reasons. But where people do have to travel for essential reasons, they know the public health guidance and they know what to do.”
“I don’t think it’s reasonable in the context of a pandemic that could go on for many months to say that we can shut down travel completely. However, from a public health perspective, we want to stop as much, if not all, non-essential travel if at all possible”, he continued.
“From a public health perspective, it’s very clear that the less movement of people you have, whether locally, regionally, nationally or internationally, then the less spread of the disease there will be. That’s just a fact with any infectious disease.”
“From a public health perspective, mandatory quarantine would clearly be a desirable measure. But, there are wider implications and there are wider considerations for government in decision-making around the issue of mandatory quarantine.
“From our perspective, anyone coming into this country should be restricting their movements.”
Legal issues restricting someone’s movement
Coveney again ruled out mandatory quarantine of passengers arriving into Ireland.
“It’s a very difficult thing then to have primary legislation to underpin a requirement to restrict your movement or to self quarantine.
“And the practical enforcement of that I think would be very, very difficult that’s why we’ve chosen to use the passenger locator form as a way of doing that in a secondary way.
On the practicalities of adding additional supports to the contact and tracing of those that do arrive in Ireland, the minister said the government will finalise the plan to have a dedicated call centre contacting passengers on Monday.
He said the State has to move faster than it normally would and there’a a different approach to procurement processes. Coveney added that he was not aware of anyone being punished under the current rules as they stand.
Health Minister Stephen Donnelly says that anyone coming into Ireland and planning to stay at multiple places is in breach of the law. He says that the “green list” – countries which the government will deem safe to travel to – will be published next Monday.
Phase 4
Coveney said he was hopeful the government could move ahead with the reopening of the country under Phase 4 next week.
He said the government would take public health advice into consideration when making such decisions “both on international travel as well as on pubs and gatherings, both indoors and outdoors”.
“That is how the previous government and now this govt has approached each of these decisions… I hope we can make some appropriate changes in relation to international travel but we have got to do it with our eyes wide open.
“On international travel, we will update the advice and hopefully a green list every two weeks based on data and bench-marking of countries primarily within the EU, but also outside the EU, on the basis of risk levels,” he added.
Brussels trip
On whether he is concerns that there will be a public push back to the Taoiseach Micheál Martin travelling to Brussels this week for a European Council meeting, Coveney said Martin will take all precautions necessary.
He said throughout the Covid pandemic, essential workers have been allowed to travel and those people have been essentially exempted from the travel restrictions that have been in place.
“Certainly I think that the Taoiseach travelling to a European Council meeting to try and finalise the budget for Europe for the next seven years, as well as trying to finalise a five billion euro Brexit reserve, if that is not essential work for Ireland, I am not sure what is.
“Of course the Taoiseach will take the appropriate precautions, but I think it would be extraordinary if he chose not to travel in terms of Ireland’s interest to that council meeting,” he concluded.
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A person who travels in space for the Chinese space program is called a Taikonaut.For America and the rest of the world its Astronaut and for Russia its Cosmonaut.
@Padraig: nobody travels in space its all fake
Lol! Alt-Right conspiracy theorists are funny.
@Breas: <——- a man with good discernment.
@OpenBorders No alt right, Just a guy with his own opinion. Which seems a tad silly.
@OpenBorders:
I don’t think you can really say much when you have set up a profile specifically to invoke a reaction.
@Pádraig Ó Raghaill:
Hey. Paddy. While you’re here…..I’m not a Zionist. You know this.
@Charlie Fogarty:
I thought we settled that – no need to rehash – I believe I even said you have discussions unlike many
@Pádraig Ó Raghaill:
I just take umbrage with being considered a Zionist when my support of Israel differs greatly to that mode of thinking. It’s important to differentiate between them.
…or a Coconaut!!!
What’s a Irish one called ???
The whole lot of them??
Surely not. Who’s going to make all our stuff?
@WJH: Why? Sure the Chinese are a great bunch of lads!
I hear they want to go to the sun at night as well
That was north Korea dude… But easy mistake they appear similar.
A Great Bunch Of Lads
That’d be awesome if it happens
They already own half of Canada and Africa!
China look set to dominate this sphere for the foreseeable future:
Soon they will be the only nation to have in-service, proven moon landing technology. By 2025 China will also likely have the only remaining Space Station in orbit with the ISS due to retire. They are already pretty far ahead in the race to capture a Near Earth Object and return in to an Earth orbit. NASA started their project this year on a shoestring budget as they prioritise a Mars 2030 run. The first nation to return an asteroid will lead the way in develop methods and technologies to mine such asteroids.
Essentially they are the only people actually trying to begin a space exploitation program. NASA are stuck on a vanity project, ESA doesn’t have a real budget and the Soviets are only interested in selling rockets anyway. They can do this because their system has advantages for long term infrastructure development over systems with elections. I really don’t see how they’d catch up at this point anyway.
@John Considine:
“the Soviets” ? C’mon comrade.
@Charlie Fogarty: I like how the only part of my reply worth of comment was my use of “Soviet” as opposed to Russian….
China’s relentless march towards becoming the next true Superpower? Let’s not worry about nonsense like that. All post in defence of Comrad Putin!!!
Sometimes you guys are just *too* transparent man.
@John Considine:
It was the funniest part. You’re framing the whole thing this as if the race hasn’t already been run. Any progress into space exploration is a positive now, regardless of who does it.
Who cares who owns the moon? I hope they are planning on building a base.
Who is ewe guys?
Sounds very interesting, It would be great to see the results and what type of minerals and compounds are found. Maybe E.T too
Good for them.
Apparently we’re all on a big ball, rotating at a speed of 1000mph and further rotating around a Sun, at 67,000mph. In addition, all of that is hurtling through an infinite universe at speeds up in the 100s of 1000s of mph – yet I feel absolutely zero vibration, lateral movement, or rotational pull from all of it.
Do you ?
Yawn…. No response on the last article you posted with the exact same comment so thought you would try again? What is wrong with you?
@Roibeard O Beachain: I like to question what I’m instructed to believe, is what’s wrong with me.
An admirable quality in a world teaming with MSM controlled automatons, if I do say so myself.
@Patrick Mac: ‘I like to question what I’m instructed to believe’
Unless it comes from a conspiracy website,then you won’t question it at all.
@Patrick Mac: Ha ha not this crap again! :-)
@OpenBorders: what website is it your referring to. I don’t need any website, book, TV set, radio to tell me that when I go outside, sit/stand still and do my best to detect, or feel motion I fail every time.
You can try it yourself if you wish. Stand away from the computer, go outside and ask yourself:
“where is the motion” ?
Go ahead, do it now, then report your findings.
Inertial frame…
@ Patrick Mac. I went outside. I observed the motion of the stars in the sky. The speed is almost imperceptible because the Earth rotates at only once per 24hrs. This is half the speed of the hour hand of a clock so I wasn’t expecting to have to hold on for dear life. But its very real all the same. Go outside and check yourself.
@Patrick Mac:
Yeah I don’t get science either.
@Paraic McDonagh: you’re ignoring the other two, additional trajectories Paraic:
*** rotating around a Sun, at 67,000mph
*** hurtling through an infinite universe at speeds up in the 100s of 1000s of mph
Why did you feel nothing from those, either ? More importantly, who, or what, carries out the task of steering planet earth through the infinite universe at such extreme speeds, huh ?
If you can answer this then you will be a rich man indeed.
Paraic, he’s a known troll so don’t waste your time.
Patrick i thought you were gonna go watch miles from tomorrow?
Scientists rarely become rich men. The reason you don’t feel anything is because space is a vacuum and so there is no resistance to the earth spinning or moving so that’s why you don’t feel anything. Simple really.
@Patrick Mac. Tell me this; when you’re on a train, do you expect your tea to splash into your face at 70mph when you tilt the cup to your mouth?
…If I was sitting next to you, it would.
@Paraic McDonagh: sorry, that’s not comparing like with like, Paraic.
He is Patrick. You could travel 60, 000 kph on a train and not feel a thing. Take away sound, windows and vibration from the track and you wont know you are moving ( if the train’s velocity is constant ) A sudden change in the trains velocity and coffee is getting spilled all over you or a lovely fat women has signed your death warrant….
Ha ha! You don’t notice anything because you are traveling at the same speed!
Your atoms are vibrating if that helps
Their mission will be as Fake as the US one in 1969. I wonder will the show the earth spinning from the moon. maybe they could place a video camera on the moon and show us the earth spinning 24/7
How can it spin if it’s flat?:
China already put a rover on the moon in 2013 called Jade Rabbit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yutu_(rover)#
You do realise that optical reflectors were placed on the moon by Apollo astronauts which anyone can bounce a laser off and are therefore verifiable? How do you purpose those got there if the moon landings were fake?
Charlie, you can spin a plate. Same principle, just bigger. The Earth sits on a big wobbly stick. Or on four elephants on the back of a giant turtle. Depends who you ask.
Padraig, odd name for a dog.
Trump will want to get there first to brand it Trump Moon.
How high is the moon -Ho Hi is a China man? Ho low is his brother.
@Bennythekid:@Bennythekid:who is his brother how low is his cousin
Wonder how they will take all of China to Mars?
*The moon
Lol
Look at the south China sea…I don’t trust these medieval s (umbags
The Earth is Flat!!!! This is not a piss take..
Apparently the Chinese have admitted that there was no sign of the NASA every been on the moon! No Apollo Missions!! All a big Masonic lie..
Yes and they want to buy Donald Trump for a Trillion Dollars and have him run it for them……
Is his wife’s name She Qisong!!!!!
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