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Roma woman wrongfully accused of failing to pay fare and thrown off Dublin Bus

The woman and a friend who was with her at the time received a substantial settlement.

TWO WOMEN WHO are members of the Roma Community received a substantial settlement last year from Dublin Bus after being thrown off a bus when one was wrongfully accused of failing to pay her fare. 

The women were represented by Free Legal Advice Centres (Flac) in discrimination proceedings at the Workplace Relations Commission and in Circuit Court proceedings. Their case is one of several included in Flac’s 2019 annual report, which will be launched later today by Minister for Justice Helen McEntee.

The incident occurred in January 2018, when the two women, who wear traditional Roma attire, boarded a Dublin Bus. 

CCTV, obtained by Flac as part of their case, showed the first woman tagging on with her Leap Card before she was called back by the driver. 

While she stood at the door to the driver’s cabin, she was accused of neglecting to pay her fare and she refuted this.

“The driver then forcefully opened the door to his cabin, which struck the woman, and proceeded to eject the woman and her friend from the bus,” Flac said.

“Other passengers then entered the bus and it departed, leaving the women distraught on the roadside.”

Leap Card records showed the woman had paid her fare upon entering the bus.

Flac initiated Workplace Relations Commission discrimination proceedings against Dublin Bus on behalf of the women, as well as Circuit Court proceedings in respect of defamation against the women and personal injuries they sustained during the incident.

Flac said the parties reached a substantial settlement agreement.

Legal advice

Last year almost 27,000 people received legal information or advice from Flac.

There were 12,469 calls to its information and referral line with almost one quarter calling with a family law issue. 

Queries about employment law rose by over 10% compared with the previous year and were the second most frequently discussed queries in legal clinics. 

In 2019, Flac had 112 open case files – 61 of these case files were opened on behalf of callers to Flac’s Roma Legal Clinic.

Sinead Lucey, managing solicitor at Flac said:

“Through our dedicated Roma Clinic, we see the difficulties faced by the Roma community in terms of poverty, access to housing, access to employment and direct incidents of discrimination on a regular basis. Our casework highlights the gendered nature of the discrimination faced by the Roma community.

“In particular, Roma women seem to attract particular hostility, most likely because they are easily identifiable when they wear traditional dress such as long skirts and head scarves. They often have difficulty accessing shops or barriers to employment issues simply because of who they are.”

Communion celebration

Over 200 callers to the Flac clinics last year stated they had experienced discrimination with one third of those on the grounds of their race, ethnicity or nationality.

The report gave an example of a Traveller family whose booking for a Communion celebration at a hotel was cancelled last minute. 

In January 2018, the complainant phoned the hotel to reserve a function room on a date in May 2018 for a party to celebrate the Communion of two of her children.

The hotel was provided with details of the number of attendees. The woman later when to the hotel to make further arrangements for the celebration and to pay the booking deposit.

Ahead of the event, Flac said the mother booked a clown and DJ. She also bought a cake and decorations and invited her family members to attend, including family travelling from the UK.

Three days before the event, the hotel manager called the woman and told her that her booking was cancelled due to a double booking of the hotel’s function room. The complainant received a refund of her deposit and found an alternative venue for the celebration.

However, it was unable to host the number of guests that she had invited and could not facilitate the entertainment planned.

“The complainant was upset and felt that her booking had been cancelled because she was a member of the Traveller community,” Flac said.

“At the discrimination hearing, evidence was provided that the complainants’ name was a common name among Traveller families in the area and that there was, at that time, negative publicity in the locality about members of the Traveller community, unrelated to the complainant, passing through the area.

The complainant also gave evidence about her dealings with the hotel and its failure to provide any credible explanation as to how it became aware of a double-booking only a few days before the event.
The adjudicator noted that the respondent’s evidence lacked credibility, and found that the hotel had discriminated against the complainant and her children on the basis of their being members of the Traveller community and ordered the payment of €5,000 in compensation.

Flac in its report has also raised concerns that legislation is being invoked “on a routine basis by local authorities, to threaten Traveller families with evictions without consultation with the families concerned and without any safeguards against arbitrary eviction”.

It said this was being done despite the fact that Ireland was found to be in breach of the European Social Charter in respect of this legislation in 2016.

Flac chief executive, Eilis Barry said today that Covid-19 has “thrown into sharp relief Flac’s objectives”. She said it has highlighted the importance of access to information, advice and advocacy about rights to social welfare, housing, debt and employment. 

“Rights are never more important than during a pandemic when people’s livelihood can be taken from them, they fear losing their homes and when difficult personal circumstances can be exacerbated,” she said.

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    Mute Seán Ryan
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    Oct 1st 2020, 6:44 AM

    And the rest of us pick up the tab?

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    Mute Ajax Penumbra
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    Oct 1st 2020, 7:05 AM

    @Seán Ryan: Agreed. If the driver did his job correctly, there wouldn’t be a “tab” to pick up. Low-key inherent racism is an awful national trait.

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    Mute Collitov
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    Oct 1st 2020, 7:07 AM

    @Seán Ryan: How much are you personally out of pocket Seán? The price of protecting the rights of the vunerable and marginalised is one we should not be aftaid to pay. Think of the price we would all be paying and our society used to pay before free legal aid and be proud of your contribution.

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    Mute Caroline Otoole
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    Oct 1st 2020, 7:44 AM

    @Collitov: The tapping on/off system seems very open to this. How is the driver supposed to know who paid and who didn’t. Really they can’t challenge anyone. This is probably common knowledge.

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    Oct 1st 2020, 7:48 AM

    @Caroline Otoole: So you are saying with a better system the driver would be able to justify this kind of abuse.

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    Mute Dave Phelan
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    Oct 1st 2020, 8:02 AM

    @Collitov: not sure if you are just trying to cause controversy with your comment. My reading of Caroline’s comment was that there is an issue with the tapping system and that the driver cannot know for sure who has paid or not. So in this case it does look like the driver was very heavy handed for whatever his reasons were!

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    Oct 1st 2020, 8:31 AM

    @Dave Phelan: When in doubt give the benifit of the doubt. The driver’s actions were totally out of order. If it had been a man or an Irish woman would he have acted as he did? I am sure in any case there were other actions he could have taken ro verify her payment or lack there of.

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    Oct 1st 2020, 8:36 AM

    @Dave Phelan: I’m pretty sure they can check the card with the reader.

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    Oct 1st 2020, 8:40 AM

    @Caroline Otoole: well he was acting as though he had the right to physically assault these women — the driver had no right- and they did pay. I wonder would you say the same if it were your female relations.

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    Oct 1st 2020, 10:08 AM

    @Caroline Otoole: The driver could have put her leap card onto his ticket machine and he could see her last few transactions. He could even give her a print out. Drivers have given me print outs for my leap card lots of times. Anyway, there is a sign on each bus that says that it is the responsibility of the passenger to pay the right bus fare. The driver should have known that. He thinks have not reacted like an a*hole.

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    Mute Bernard Sweeney
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    Oct 1st 2020, 10:32 AM

    @Collitov: what abuse?

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    Mute Colin Keogh
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    Oct 1st 2020, 11:50 AM

    @Collitov: no he’s say he should be able to see who tags on or off which at the moment he cant

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    Mute Ben Darley
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    Oct 1st 2020, 12:02 PM

    @Seán Ryan: Yes, this is what happens when bus drivers racially profile, accuse people of not paying and hit them with their cabin door on the way to kicking them off the bus.

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    Oct 1st 2020, 6:51 AM

    Treasure Ireland

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    Mute Dave Phelan
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    Oct 1st 2020, 8:06 AM

    Very sad that this article about a passenger tapping into the bus and then being accused of not having paid has degenerated into a race issue. This potentially could happen to anyone irrespective of race. Perhaps the transport authority will now look at how this can be resolved.

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    Oct 1st 2020, 8:43 AM

    @Dave Phelan: The bus incedent is only part of the article and I agree Dublin Bus drivers csn be rude and obnoxious to more than racial minorities.

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    Oct 1st 2020, 9:18 AM

    @Dave Phelan:
    Correct. The article actually specifies the women’s nationality and type of clothing. Is this not technically racist?
    Should the article simply inform of a “person” wrongly accused of fare evasion?
    There are double standards no matter what way you deal with a race issue IMO.

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    Oct 1st 2020, 12:10 PM

    @Lotus: It was brought up as racial discrimination how can you report the matter without mentioning the issue

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    Oct 1st 2020, 8:36 AM

    I wont even go there with all that’s wrong in this country and other peoples money, confetti courts

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    Oct 1st 2020, 9:22 AM

    @Tom Ripley
    Unfortunately the entire Romanian nation gets tagged as Roma. 2 different entities entirely.
    I have worked with Romanians and they are decent diligent workers.
    Similar to Irish being tarnished by another ethnic minority

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    Oct 1st 2020, 8:45 AM

    @Tom Ripley: maybe Dublin bus need to address a way for drivers to check a fare has tapped on and remind them not to physically abuse people? It’s quite simple – they do it in the luas every day. Victim blaming here

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    Oct 1st 2020, 9:25 AM

    If any person was wrongly treated in this way, falsely accused, defamed and assaulted by a bus driver, they are entitled to be compensated for the harm caused.

    It is an open and shut case of discrimination and anyone that can’t see that isn’t looking at the facts, or is unfortunately blinded by their own prejudice.

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    Mute Barry
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    Oct 1st 2020, 7:02 AM

    “pick up the tab” Which tab? The hotel were ordered to pay 5k, FLAC is for everybody, not all the cases are discrimination.

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    Oct 1st 2020, 10:12 AM

    Was the bus driver reprimanded in any way?
    If you want to discourage this kind of blatant discrimination you have to punish the actual perpetrators and not just the tax payer.

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    Oct 1st 2020, 10:51 AM

    @Will: have you never mistake? What would you do, sack the driver & take away his living so his family suffer too?

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    Oct 1st 2020, 11:14 AM

    @Looney Tunes: I never said sack him, that was all you.
    However, from the article it sounds like this driver physically assaulted the woman by first hitting her with the driver’s cabin door and then forcibly removing her from the bus. Surely you see that is not acceptable behaviour when dealing with a customer.
    If you did this working for a private operator you would be reprimanded in some way I’ve no doubt.

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    Oct 1st 2020, 11:24 AM

    @Looney Tunes: “have you never (made a) mistake?”

    It’s also a bit dishonest to call this a simple mistake.
    Not realising that the woman had paid for her journey was a mistake, the man’s reaction to his own error was a lot more then that.

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    Oct 1st 2020, 1:15 PM

    @Will: your right hardworking people shouldn’t be treated like that,

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    Oct 1st 2020, 10:43 AM

    Unfortunately I can’t say what I want to or all comments will be deleted or closed, enjoy the day folks

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    Oct 1st 2020, 1:53 PM

    I’d say she hid her ticket told him she lost it but paid was taken off bus then went straight to the layers happy days scam done

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    Mute Bridget Walsh
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    Oct 1st 2020, 4:02 PM

    @John Elliott: she tapped her leap card

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    Oct 1st 2020, 5:45 PM

    @John Elliott: So you didn’t read the whole article and jump to her being a scammer because of her ethnicity?

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    Oct 1st 2020, 12:41 PM

    Plenty of cranky saps working at Dublin bus so hopefully incidents like this will put them back in their box. They go very shy when the lads they dont wanna mess with get on board but I’ve seen them be extremely rude to tourists who cant even understand the language so havent a clue what orders are being barked at them.

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    Mute Peter
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    Oct 1st 2020, 2:53 PM

    Is it only racist because she wasn’t a white Irish woman?

    I mean the driver is just going by what he saw even though it was wrong in this case.

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    Oct 1st 2020, 12:40 PM

    Dublin bus wrong

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    Oct 1st 2020, 12:59 PM

    Glad these women got justice. I gave though seen incidents on Dublin Bus where I felt sorry and afraid for the drivers

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    Oct 1st 2020, 1:00 PM

    Glad these women got justice. I have though seen incidents on Dublin Bus where I felt sorry and afraid for the drivers

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    Oct 1st 2020, 7:08 PM

    Driver should be sacked!

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    Oct 1st 2020, 7:20 PM

    The location of the right hand scanner on entry requires the passenger to stand back to the driver position to scan, so the driver depends on hearing the beep to know whether or not the fare is logged. They should have a vdu assist.

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    Oct 2nd 2020, 10:05 AM

    And what does it matter what they were wearing?

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    Oct 2nd 2020, 3:02 PM

    Could the author please make contact with me on this issue please

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    Mute Eamonn Walshe
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    Oct 2nd 2020, 4:23 PM

    How much if the facts did the author of this story check out before publishing it!

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    Mute Brian mc weeney
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    Oct 2nd 2020, 9:25 AM

    Sometimes these machines don’t tap properly, if you’re too quick. drivers call you back to try again and most often let you on for free if they don’t work. Maybe he was been verbally attacked aggressively based on a false accusation. Open the door (which inflicts his security), as the door opens not so much with force the pair stumble back. And the driver let’s on the rest of the patiently waiting commuters to go home. Two sides to this story?

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    Oct 1st 2020, 10:17 PM

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