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'People are devastated': St John of God to hand over services to HSE due to 'underfunding crisis'

SJOG currently provides intellectual disability and mental health services to over 8,000 people.

SAINT JOHN OF God (SJOG) Community Services has announced it plans to end its service arrangement with the Health Service Executive and to transfer responsibility for the operation of its services directly to the HSE over the next 12 months.

SJOG, which will cease its involvement in the provision of these services by 1 October 2021, said it made the decision “with deep regret” and “due to a protracted and unresolved systemic underfunding crisis that had undermined the organisation for over a decade”.

The formal letter of notice was sent to the HSE yesterday.

SJOG currently provides intellectual disability and mental health services to over 8,000 children, adolescents and adults, and employs 3,000 staff and volunteers in 300 locations across counties Dublin, Kildare, Kerry, Wicklow, Meath and Louth.

Over 2,500 of those impacted are in receipt of day, residential and respite services for people with a disability. The Order of St John of God has been providing these services for almost a century.

The Chief Executive of St John of God Community Services, Clare Dempsey, said the organisation has been communicating over the past two days with the children and adults supported by the services, their families and staff members, retirees and volunteers to inform them of the “very sad decision”.

“This is a day we wished would never come but in the face of an intractable funding crisis that has prevailed for over a decade, we simply cannot continue. We have endeavoured to resolve this over the years in talks with the HSE but without success.

“In February of this year, we advised the HSE that the extent of the financial crisis was so acute that if the accumulated deficit and current funding requirements were not addressed, we would be left with no option but to serve 12 months’ notice to terminate the services arrangement and transfer responsibility for the entirety of our service provision to them directly.”

Letters to government and service users

Dempsey said the organisation wrote to the government in recent weeks to alert it “to the seriousness of the crisis and the fact that the Board was likely in late September to formally take this decision, in the absence of a firm and unequivocal commitment to address an existing €27 million annual funding gap and the accumulated deficit which stands at €37.7 million at the end of August 2020″.

Dempsey said this accumulated deficit would stand at almost €54 million if the order didn’t contribute €16 million in recent years to sustain service provision.

She said the decision “goes against what we want to do and what we have tried to do for almost a century, but we simply can no longer continue in this intolerable situation which has so frequently compromised, despite the best efforts of staff, the services and supports we provide to people”.

Speaking on RTÉ’s Today With Claire Byrne, Dempsey said the funding situation is “unsustainable, it’s intolerable, and it has given rise to the decision by the board to take this very difficult decision and transfer the services to the HSE”.

Dempsey said service users, their families and staff are “devastated” by the decision.

“People are obviously devastated, sad, distressed and worried for what the future might bring.

Many people we support are with us since early childhood and are now into late adulthood, equally the families have been with us, staff have worked with us for many long years and are truly committed to the mission of the services, and to the people we support. So obviously, it’s a very worrying and distressing time.

SJOG’s decision was first reported in the Irish Times this morning.

A spokesperson for the HSE confirmed to TheJournal.ie that it has received the letter of notice.

“In the first instance, it is of critical importance to reassure service users, families and the public that these vital supports and services will continue to be provided without disruption.

“The HSE values the services provided by SJOGCS clg as a significant funded support provider. Importantly, the HSE will continue to work positively with SJOGCS clg in order to resolve the sustainability challenges that have been raised,” the spokesperson said in a statement.

In letters to service users and their families, and to staff members, volunteers and retirees, SJOG said it would “do everything in its power to manage the smooth transfer of service over the 12-month period”.

An urgent meeting has been sought with the HSE, to begin putting the “appropriate transitional arrangements and plans” in place for the next 12 months, Dempsey added.

Notice has also been served on the Health Information and Quality Authority.

Speaking at a Department of Health press conference this morning, Health Minister Stephen Donnelly said that SJOG has provided “for many years, many many decades, and continues to provide, invaluable services that families all around Ireland have used over the previous decades”.

Donnelly said that there was a “continuity plan” in place for the HSE to take responsibility for the services SJOG currently provides.

“If the current view of the board carries through, we would transfer functions to the state on the first of October next year,” Donnelly said.

“There will be very close, ongoing conversations between the state and St John of God’s,” he said.

“I want to acknowledge the profoundly beneficial impact they have had on so many people and so many families for so many decades.”

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    Mute Ann Reddin
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    Aug 12th 2014, 4:15 PM

    The screws should contain a reference or batch number so it should make it easier for them to identify him.

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    Mute Elaine Cassin
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    Aug 12th 2014, 6:06 PM

    I was just thinking that ann..
    If we can figure this out why can’t forensics ??

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    Mute SeekingUniverslTruth
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    Aug 12th 2014, 6:30 PM

    Forensics are a bunch of amateurs be it in accountancy or crime.

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    Mute Dominic Hearns
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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:26 PM

    Ha, everyone’s an expert !!!!! Do ye think the Guards are eegits needing your advice on how to investigate these type of crimes.
    Ah, Ye’re listening to too much of that Wilson/ Mc Cabe crap.
    Leave it to the experts.

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    Mute SeekingUniverslTruth
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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:28 PM

    “Leave it to the experts.” lmao

    the sophie tuscan du plantier et al experts i it?

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:33 PM

    Screws don’t have reference or batch numbers, only implants or prostheses, so it’s unlikely to be much help.

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    Mute SeekingUniverslTruth
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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:38 PM

    The operation that the guy had was a major one. the exact procedure is in a database somewhere along with his personal details. It’s not rocket science.

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    Mute Joe Harbison
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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:42 PM

    No such database exists outside HIPE, it would be in breach of the data protection act. He had craniotomy so performed which is about the most frequent op the Neurosurgeons do. They’d probably have to do a chart trawl unless the characteristics of the case ring some bells locally. They’ve probably asked in Beaumont and Cork.

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    Mute Fionn Bohane
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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:55 PM

    Not rocket science , biology :)

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    Mute Dominic Hearns
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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:59 PM

    So, do you have some expert advice on this one ??? Whose right or wrong ? Maybe we’re all gobdaws on this one too, or, you have other really really valuable evidence to suggest that the GARDAI are totally off the wall, or maybe you’re just the average Mail reader !! Get with the programme.

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    Mute SeekingUniverslTruth
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    Aug 13th 2014, 12:04 AM

    the daily mail is the the daily garda

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    Aug 13th 2014, 4:51 AM

    Screws do have reference numbers every last one of them from ones for your fingers to ones for your head and reference/batch numbers are recorded in medical charts and can be used to identify.

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    Mute jason bourne
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    Aug 13th 2014, 6:19 AM

    No, they do not.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 7:24 AM

    Looks like a job for Gil Grissom

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    Aug 13th 2014, 8:41 AM

    Elaine if they can they will.

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    Mute SeekingUniverslTruth
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    Aug 12th 2014, 4:18 PM

    They should have his identity already. A search of the neurological databases in Irish and european hospitals will do it.

    Can i bypass templemore and go straight to interpol?

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    Aug 12th 2014, 8:41 PM

    No cause you sent your vetting form to the Phoenix park , and a monkey ate it….

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    Mute SeekingUniverslTruth
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    Aug 12th 2014, 10:02 PM

    i didn’t send it, the desk sargeant did:-)

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:37 PM

    No database I’m afraid. Every patient registry in Ireland needs an individual act of the Oireachteas, that was established when the national cancer registry was created. The could do an individual chart check but it would take forever. More sensible to release details to the general public and see what turns up.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:41 PM

    sorry that doesn’t wash,

    There are less than ten neurologists in this country, of them only a couple would do an operation like this guy had and they would remember doing an op like the one this guy had.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:47 PM

    Sorry, they probably do a craniotomy on the majority of cases they see, it’s just a hole in the skull. I’m sure they’ve checked with Beaumont. There are actually closer to 25 neurologists in the country, but they don’t do craniotomies, Neurosurgeons do. There are 7 or 8 of them in Beaumont but I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t remember an individual case they did a few years ago.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 12:06 AM

    i’m pretty sure a neurologist would remember the names of all his patients who had teir skulls opened by him.

    Shouldn’t you be doing something constructive in the barracks, like paperwork.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 12:10 AM

    *sergeant

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    Aug 13th 2014, 8:47 AM

    You wouldn’t be able for it. Best your type stay safe behind the keyboard .

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    Aug 13th 2014, 8:52 AM

    No seeking you wouldn’t be able for it. Your type are better staying safe behind the keyboard. Mind yourself now x

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    Mute gerry campbell
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    Aug 13th 2014, 9:05 AM

    And the possibility that this work could have been done in another country, (very likely ) hasn’t crossed your mind.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 4:24 PM

    Nidge is after getting Tommy clipped and chopped up!

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    Aug 12th 2014, 3:50 PM

    A good lead so, won’t need to go out on a limb to solve this one.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 4:17 AM

    I’m pretty sure the Gards do actually know how to do their job! Love all the Sharky and George style comments though!

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    Aug 12th 2014, 5:55 PM

    1998 Hide & Seek champion..

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    Aug 12th 2014, 7:50 PM

    Hi Paul, thanks for your input but lets not confuse a scandal of the 50′s with what is most probably the discovery of a criminal found in a rubbish dump. Even you should realise that its a bloody stupid comparison.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:42 PM

    Heard you the first time, Tony.

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    May 16th 2016, 3:41 PM

    Mark was not a criminal

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    Aug 12th 2014, 7:10 PM

    Looks like the work of Tony Soprano

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    Aug 12th 2014, 5:56 PM

    Maybe its Enda Kenny – hes got a few screws loose

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    Aug 12th 2014, 6:27 PM

    Tony
    An appalling murder that ended the life of a young man provides you with a platform to make a sick joke about the body being that of the Taoiseach. At first I just thought you suffered from a complete absence of any social filter but now I’m convinced your intellectual development suffered an irreversible collapse some time ago!

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    Aug 12th 2014, 6:37 PM

    As did your humour development Richard.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 7:07 PM

    Richard
    Common sense would suggest that somebody who is found in a rubbish dump was no pillar of society by any stretch of the imagination. My social filter and intellectual development however remain intact although one must add that the Taoiseach and his army of baboons are presently working hard to change that.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 7:25 PM

    Richard is correct about it being an appalling murder, and the deceased deserves more respect than Tony’s comment indicates. Of course Richard ignored earlier disrespectful comments that made light of this murder, choosing only to comment on a wry observation that Kenny has a few screws loose, which leads me to think Richards moral compass only points to Enda.
    Tony, you should reflect on what you said in light of the mother and baby home scandal where innocents were interred in cess pits.
    Sick puppy.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 7:50 PM

    Hi Paul, thanks for your input but lets not confuse a scandal of the 50′s with what is most probably the discovery of a criminal found in a rubbish dump. Even you should realise that its a bloody stupid comparison.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 4:22 AM

    I’m pretty sure the Guards do actually know how to their jobs! Love all the Sharky and George style comments though!

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    Aug 13th 2014, 8:00 AM

    I’d say the cops have a fair idea who this could be….I think they do a very good job the majority of the time…there’s twits/bad apples in every large organisation!

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    Aug 12th 2014, 8:36 PM

    Frankenstein?

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:31 PM

    Screws either side of his head?? Holy shit, I know who it is!!! http://finnishfoodgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/frankenstein.jpg

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    Aug 13th 2014, 7:28 AM

    Job done

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    Aug 13th 2014, 2:47 AM

    Well I hope, at least, that the female sargeant that admitted she didn’t know how to read a map on the Tynan case in portarlington a couple of weeks ago was not allowed near this. Or any other upcoming case for that matter. There’s an excuse for cutbacks but there’s no excuse for incompetency.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 12:44 PM

    Garda are down in the dumps over this!

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    Aug 13th 2014, 8:49 AM

    It’s Frankenstein’s monster. There should be a pair of nuts and bolts lying around there too.

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