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Reports that Defence Forces troops to be cut are 'speculation'

It was reported today that 500 troops are to be cut from the Defence Forces – but this has been denied.

REPORTS THAT MINISTER Alan Shatter will announce a reduction of 500 troops from the Defence Forces today have been described as untrue.

A spokesperson for the Department of Defence told TheJournal.ie that reports today that Minister Shatter will be announcing the cuts is “just speculation”.

The spokesperson said that Minister Shatter has asked the Secretary General and Chief of Staff at the Defence Forces to work on proposals for reorganising the forces’ brigades and reducing them from three to two.

“There will be an announcement made on it due course,” she said, adding that reorganising the brigades does not mean reducing staff numbers.

Earlier this year, almost 10,500 people applied for 600 jobs in the Defence Forces.

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    Mute Garry Coll
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    Dec 11th 2020, 12:28 AM

    The analysis brings out several more questions;
    Is there an explanation from NPHET why the county with the current highest incidence, Donegal, borders with the county with the lowest, Leitrim.
    Science says that the virus does not discriminate, we are told, so why is it so preferable to Leitrim people?
    How many people are there in the country now with Covid, the last official number released was in June. Did NPHET stop counting that figure back then?
    How many cases have been identified from 1st August onwards that were infected in a hospital or care home setting, whether as a patient, employee or visitor?
    What changes has NPHET made to it’s modelling process to increase it’s accuracy since March?
    These may not have dawned on the Journal journalists, but the answers would still be helpful.

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    Mute Spring2020
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    Dec 11th 2020, 12:47 AM

    @Garry Coll: It’s because North Donegal borders with Derry/Tyrone. Southern Donegal doesn’t have high rates which is the part close to Leitrim

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    Mute Garry Coll
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    Dec 11th 2020, 12:55 AM

    @Spring2020:
    South Donegal is about 90, Leitrim is around 15. Try again.

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    Mute Gavin Linden
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    Dec 11th 2020, 1:17 AM

    @Garry Coll: Not sure what is taken as south Donegal in the figures Gary. It could be cut off at Donegal town or a line from south-west to north-east as I think some of the sports organisations do. Anyway there is very little connection with Donegal and North Leitrim. About 15 miles of border with them and the way it forms geographically means there is more interaction with Fermanagh and just pass through traffic of about 2 miles with Leitrim heading south. Although the automatic assumption is the interaction in North Donegal with Strabane/ Derry is giving rise to the large amount of cases what is not being reported is the large number of cases assoiated with Letterkenny Hospital. Although I have no insight I am led to believe upwards of 250 cases directly to there. You could have greater interaction with people from South of the County and Letterkenny than Leitrim.

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    Mute Larry Whack
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    Dec 11th 2020, 8:39 AM

    @Gavin Linden: Correct. I’m from there. The way the counties meet, Donegal may as well be Cork, there’s very little interaction between the 2.

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    Mute ed w
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    Dec 11th 2020, 11:38 AM

    @Garry Coll: top of inishowen is at 522 per 100000 sw donegal at 67.2 according latest gov map

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    Mute ed w
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    Dec 11th 2020, 11:39 AM

    @Gavin Linden: it the do legal south electoral are map is here https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

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    Mute Charles Shelly
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    Dec 11th 2020, 2:12 PM

    @Garry Coll: no one is listening & that’s the reason why …

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    Mute Ribeard Ó Fiachna
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    Dec 11th 2020, 6:59 AM

    I had to collect something from town last night around 7pm and based on how people were behaving both in and outside bars and restaurants we’re headed straight for a massive spike in cases. I’m right there with everyone who wants to be able to go out and get a bit of normality, but we know that cases in the thousands just gets us more lockdown and forces all the businesses we want to support to close again. Don’t be selfish, do the bare minimum to keep levels low so we can keep things open this time.

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    Mute JedBartlett
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    Dec 11th 2020, 7:17 AM

    @Ribeard Ó Fiachna: How did you see inside the bars and restaurants? Did you actually go and look in through the windows?
    It’ll take the country a long time to recover from this and I don’t mean the virus.
    I mean the way we have turned into a curtain twitching, ‘look what they’re doing over there’ society. The East Germans from the 70’s would have loved a population like ours. Quick to turn on each other, quick to report.

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    Mute Ribeard Ó Fiachna
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    Dec 11th 2020, 7:37 AM

    @JedBartlett: Because I was walking by, stepping onto the road to avoid big groups congregating outside pubs, hugging, all the things we’re not supposed to do?

    I need to be very clear here, I’m not blaming pubs and restaurants at all, I’ve heard of a few that aren’t doing the right things but all of them I’ve seen or been in have been brilliant. If you read my post again you’ll see that I’m specifically calling out the people who are meeting as many people as they want. You can call it curtain twitching but so many of us have lost people this year, missed out on important events and had livelihoods affected, I’m simply appealing to people to try and behave themselves so we don’t get knocked back again.

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    Mute Seymour Cup
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    Dec 11th 2020, 10:08 AM

    @Ribeard Ó Fiachna: They should just schedule a final lockdown for the month of February now. It’s clear that opening up over Christmas is going to cause a case spike, regardless of patron behavior. At least if we know in advance, people and businesses can plan in advance of it.

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    Mute Adam J
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    Dec 11th 2020, 11:25 AM

    @JedBartlett: If people would actually follow guidelines and not be completely selfish tools, then there would be no need for “curtain-twichers”, just follow the guidelines, its not difficult

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    Mute JedBartlett
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    Dec 11th 2020, 12:14 PM

    @Adam J: Nobody is immune to catching this, both rule followers and rule floaters are both at risk, rule followers have a reduced risk obviously but they’re not risk free unless you hide in a wardrobe until it’s completely eradicated.

    The smugness towards people who don’t follow the guidelines really says a lot about people. I doubt very much there are many in this country who haven’t stepped within 2 metres if somebody else since this started or who have flouted some other guideline at some point.

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    Mute Adam J
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    Dec 11th 2020, 12:23 PM

    @JedBartlett: Theres no smugness, its simple common sense, no doubt i’ve passed by people closer than 2m when there is no space to distance, but in those instances I am wearing a mask, to minimise the risk (Not eliminate….minimise)

    There are others out there that lack the simple common sense to distance or wear masks, we are approaching a year of Covid 19 and they still dont get it, thats the hilarious part. Its the ignorance of those people that are worsening the outbreaks

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    Mute Ribeard Ó Fiachna
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    Dec 11th 2020, 12:59 PM

    @JedBartlett: You’re moving the goalposts now.

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    Mute JedBartlett
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    Dec 11th 2020, 1:33 PM

    @Adam J: And there’s no smugness? Read your last sentence again.

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    Mute Darren Mc Cann
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    Dec 11th 2020, 5:26 PM

    @Ribeard Ó Fiachna: well said! It’s pure selfish behaviour from this lot who will have us back in lockdown in no time. Furthermore they might contract and recover but those they pass onto might not

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    Mute Iris Weber
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    Dec 11th 2020, 8:19 PM

    @JedBartlett: Nazi “germany”, dearie. Did you “miss” that part of history” ?

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    Mute JedBartlett
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    Dec 11th 2020, 8:39 PM

    @Iris Weber: Good man, Iris

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    Mute Adam J
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    Dec 11th 2020, 8:42 PM

    @JedBartlett: I think you are a little paranoid, there is no smugness, just disappointment at tools who don’t get understand the damage they are doing

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    Mute JedBartlett
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    Dec 11th 2020, 9:05 PM

    @Adam J: And I think there’s a bang of smugness here too. I hope you at no point catch this virus for that would make you one of the tools surely?

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    Mute Kevin Davy
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    Dec 11th 2020, 12:18 AM

    Softening everyone up for the next lockdown – we all know already – get on with it !

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    Mute Canyon
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    Dec 11th 2020, 12:50 AM

    @Kevin Davy: lockdown 3 mid January.

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    Mute David Jordan
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    Dec 11th 2020, 1:08 AM

    @Kevin Davy: Stockholm’s ICU’s have reached 99% capacity due to worsening COVID-19 outbreak. Interview with doctors, Radio Sweden:

    https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/7430274

    The second part of the report talks about the economic damage due to the pandemic.

    There are too many who still think we should have followed Sweden’s soft approach. However, Sweden has had a worse outbreak than us and is now toughening up its measures. They earlier limited gatherings to no more than 8 people and they want to enact laws that can force businesses (shops and gyms) to close (see: “Swedish government to ask parliament for tougher powers to fight pandemic” ).

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    Intensive care in the Stockholm Region is under severe pressure. On Tuesday, the intensive care units were 99 percent full. This is the first time this has happened during the pandemic.

    These are activities that are about life and death, so the situation is very serious, says Björn Persson, operations manager for perioperative medicine and intensive care at Karolinska.

    The director of health and medical care, Björn Eriksson, says that he turned to the National Board of Health and Welfare for staff reinforcement.

    https://www.dn.se/sthlm/99-procent-av-iva-platserna-i-stockholms-lan-fyllda-laget-ar-mycket-allvarligt/

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    Mute Conor Kilgallon
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    Dec 11th 2020, 10:10 AM

    A bit of fibbing going on with regard to schools

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    Mute Jeni Moriarty
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    Dec 11th 2020, 9:25 AM

    I know of 4 people who have been confirmed to have Corona, all four tested positive on their 2nd test and negative on their first. All carried on with life with their normal lives until a week later, something is wrong with the timings of the tests

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    Mute Eddie
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    Dec 11th 2020, 9:11 AM

    Anyone know what the vaccine related death count is?

    That’d be more interesting than the PCR False Positive count…

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    Mute Ribeard Ó Fiachna
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    Dec 11th 2020, 1:01 PM

    @Eddie: Yes Eddie, it’s 0. Hope you found that helpful.

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    Mute Iris Weber
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    Dec 11th 2020, 8:26 PM

    @Eddie: GO away to russia.

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    Mute O'Brien
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    Dec 11th 2020, 10:00 AM

    Let’s change the Antigen test to the gold standard and stop doing a hearing test to indicate the performance of someone’s vision.

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    Mute Adam J
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    Dec 11th 2020, 11:34 AM

    @O’Brien: Antigen tests have been reported as being as high as 50% for false positives, the cost is a factor too, Boots UK offering Lumiradx antigen test, is £120

    No doubt Boots are profiteering here, but cost is a massive factor in testing unfortunately

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    Mute Anamaria Strango
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    Dec 11th 2020, 1:06 AM

    Dublin is on level 1 because no wet pubs….rest of the country maybe level 3 can’t say because last 8 months I did not left dublin…..

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    Mute David Geraghty
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    Dec 11th 2020, 1:58 AM

    @Anamaria Strango: dublin is on level 1 because no wet pubs…huh?

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