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The new traffic light system - which Ireland plans to bring into effect on 8 November - should allow for relatives and friends to return home to Ireland for Christmas this year. Shutterstock/Dux Croatorum

NPHET yet to give advice on issue of people travelling home from abroad for Christmas

Irish aviation regulators are calling for mandatory pre-departure testing instead of quarantine restrictions.

LAST UPDATE | 27 Oct 2020

CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER Tony Holohan has said public health experts have yet to give any consideration to whether people should travel home from abroad for Christmas.

Speaking at a press briefing this evening, Holohan said if there is a need to give consideration or advice to government in the weeks ahead on the matter, the National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) will certainly do so.

He told TheJournal.ie that it is NPHET’s position that the risks associated with international travel are “very, very high”.

The Irish government is pushing to have a rapid testing regime up and running by next month to ensure that friends and families can travel to visit their loved ones this Christmas.

Last week, Cabinet agreed to align Ireland with the EU traffic light system. 

Holohan’s comments come after an Oireachtas committee was told today that a comon Covid-19 testing protocol for European member states on international travel should be ready within “weeks”.

Such a move could allow Irish passengers to travel abroad under rigorous testing before flying.

Holohan said he was aware of the decision made last week about the EU traffic light system. 

While he said the portion of cases associated with international travel is “very small”, NPHET would be concerned about anything that is going to “weaken” the defenses in place in Ireland.

He said the scale of the virus in both Europe and the US is “very concerning”, adding that it is a “rapidly deteriorating situation”. 

“Movement of populations for any reasons is seriously challenged at this moment in time,” he said.

The chief medical officer acknowledged that the government has decisions to make in terms of what Europe is considering and mandating web it comes to international travel.

Holohan said he would “absolutely” and “totally” deny any insinuations that he is being alarmist, stating that the risks around travel are very substantial.

When asked at an Oireachtas Committee last week if NPHET would have to sign off on any new travel system and testing regime, Junior Transport Minister Hildegarde Naughten said: 

“This will be a Government decision.”

She said obviously the government will consult the Department of Health and public  health officials, but the decision would be made by government

Next week, the chief medical officer will discuss air travel advice and the potential for Covid-19 testing at airports before the Oireachtas Transport Committee.

Earlier today, the committee was told the EU Aviation Safety Agency and ECDC have been tasked with developing a common testing regime to eliminate the need for quarantine and other restrictions.

Director for Aviation in the European Commission, Filip Cornelis told the Oireachtas Transport Committee today that while some airports in Europe are using rapid testing and antigen tests, it is “clear that we need a common approach” in terms of what tests are used throughout Europe. 

“We need mutual recognition” of the testing being used in each country, he said, adding that there is no point in rolling out a testing regime if other countries “will not recognise the test taken by the person travelling”.

Irish aviation ‘devastated’ 

In his written opening statement to the committee, head of corporate affairs of the Irish Aviation Authority Paul Brandon said the pandemic has devastated the aviation industry in Ireland and that air traffic levels have now reverted back to levels seen in the late 1980s.

He said it could be 2024 or 2025 before the industry recovers fully.

Pre-departure testing as part of new traffic light system should allow for the effective reopening of aviation, he said.

Under the new traffic light plan, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control will publish a weekly map of the EU using a three-stage colour system to indicate the level of risk in each area.

The new traffic light system – which Ireland plans to bring into effect on 8 November – should allow for relatives and friends to return home to Ireland for Christmas this year.

In terms of allowing anyone wishing to leave the country, the National Virus Reference Laboratory (NVRL) is currently carrying out a validation process on LAMP testing, it is understood. If approved by the Department of Health, the new test could be incorporated into Ireland’s testing regime in order to open up international travel again.

Currently, the only validated test recognised in Ireland is the PCR test. After someone is swabbed, the PCR test has to be sent to a lab for analysis. The new LAMP test does not, and can deliver results in an hour or so. 

The European Commission has advocated to harmonise the easing of restrictions since June, said Cornelis.

Pre-departure testing

As a society we need to live with Covid-19, Brandon told committee members, stating that effective harmonisation of European pre-departure testing should be “rolled out as soon as possible”.

He said passengers need to know when they make a booking that their flight will take place, and that the rules won’t change. 

If someone tests positive, they simply don’t travel, he said.

Testing will be an “important piece of the jigsaw”, said Brandon, who agreed that a EU-wide testing system is required. 

He said passengers could be tested on the same day as travelling or a day or two in advance. There may be scope to use tests that are less than the gold standard as you are testing to see if someone is negative rather than positive, he said.

Brandon said the sector needs to see a recovery happen from next summer onwards.

Safely reopening borders with a coordinated testing regime”would be a lifeline”, said Brandon, but added that the true benefit will only emerge if all countries implement a recognised testing system. 

The committee was told by Cornelis that further work is underway by the ECDC which is working with the commission on expanding health safety guidance around testing protocol – though he said it would be guided not mandatory. 

Passengers lacking confidence

He said the problem for travel restrictions is that  passengers are lacking confidence due to ever-changing rules. He said quarantining being imposed in some countries defeats the purpose of travel for many.

There is a general perception in the sector that as long as no vaccine is available there will is a need for common testing protocol for all EU countries, he added.

The Commission has observed that some states wish to impose border restrictions, despite this not actually being a recommendation from the ECDC, said Cornelis. 

The way to get passengers to travel again is through a “harmonised and stable system” of measures, “which should not be quarantine”, he said.

In terms of travel between the EU and the US, the new protocol for testing due shortly could also be useful to open up travel to America, the committee was told. 

While such measures will be rolled out in Europe first, Cornelis said he could see the scope of working with other countries that adopt similar protocols. He said the US would be an “obvious candidate” but said there it is “still a little bit too early to take those steps as far as we are concerned”. 

The IAA managed 38,172 flights in September 2020, compared to almost 110,000 in the same month last year, committee members were told today.

Brandon warned that the levels of air traffic in Ireland are consistently below the rest of the European air traffic network which he said was “deeply worrying”.

Brandon also said that Ireland should take a lead in promoting a standard approach to airport departure testing and the removal of quarantine requirements across Europe.

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    May 16th 2017, 11:11 PM

    To be fair you have to say that America has elected a person who should not be allowed to own a box of matches……

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    May 16th 2017, 11:54 PM

    @Kerry Blake: brilliant :-)

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    May 17th 2017, 12:12 AM

    @Kerry Blake: I wouldn’t trust him with a pair of scissors.

    The truly sad thing i, that even though Donald Trump has proven himself to be the most outrageously inept President of the US in history, there isn’t even a whimper from the American people? No mass protest, nothing. It would appear that the Breitbartification of the populace is complete. The new slogan of the dumbass racist Alt-Right should be, “We are all Kardashian’s now, Heil Trumpf!”.

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    May 17th 2017, 1:43 AM

    @Grainne Abdulaziz: i dont think its fair to say that Americans have not protested against Trump… the real plan, in case you missed it, is unfolding precisely as planned. Step 1: put incompetent joke in charge. Step 2: after his inevitable failure… he is impeached. Step 3: once Trump has been forced to step down, the real crazy begins. This has always been the evangelical Christians plan. Thats why they were the largest group of pro Trump voters.

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    May 17th 2017, 7:13 AM

    @Kerry Blake: And the fact he hasn’t lit those matches there is a lot of smoke billowing around him

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    May 16th 2017, 11:17 PM

    It seems as if Trump does not want to be in the White House and is actively sabotaging his own presidency. But on the other hand, I’m doubting he is capable of even that strategy.

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    May 16th 2017, 11:27 PM

    The comedy sketch just writes itself here… Trump singing the song from Frozen….

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    May 16th 2017, 11:25 PM

    I wonder if Paddy Power is taking bets on Trump being impeached before the end of his term?

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    May 17th 2017, 12:15 AM

    @Mick Tobin: Paddy Power have very short odds on Trump seeing out 2017!

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    May 17th 2017, 1:30 AM

    @Grainne Abdulaziz: also, 50/1 for him to sue them

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    May 16th 2017, 11:11 PM

    Trump holds a grudge forever and always retaliates.

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    May 17th 2017, 6:00 AM

    @Tony Daly: he doesn’t have the attention span to hold a grudge. That’s why he’s so retaliatory.

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    May 16th 2017, 11:33 PM

    This is probably taking viewers away from House of Cards, couldnt make this guys presidency up!

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    May 16th 2017, 11:35 PM

    The liberal press has turned into the theatre of the absurd.
    Most American journalists harbour a secret ambition to write a Hollywood script.. They’re certainly outdoing themselves on Donald Trump reporting.
    Impossible to take them seriously anymore.

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    May 16th 2017, 11:37 PM

    @Jack Cassady: the problem is that the coverage is true. Trump’s wilfulness and narcissism will be his eventual undoing. He has lost self control,

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    May 17th 2017, 6:48 AM

    @Jack Cassady: “Impossible to take them seriously anymore.” You talking bout yourself again..

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    May 17th 2017, 9:24 AM

    @Jack Cassady: 90% of the press is owned by 6 mainly liberal corporations, compared to 50 in 1983. The result is liberal groupthink. (They are Viacom, Comcast, Disney, CBS, Time Warner and News Corp). Only News Corp is conservative.

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    May 17th 2017, 9:25 AM

    @Tony Daly: Tony the Star Chamber was abolished in 1640. The media are not a court. If they were Trump wouldnt have been allowed stand

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    May 17th 2017, 9:42 AM

    @Rosa Parks: again, this story was printed by a Republican owned media group

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    May 17th 2017, 10:59 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: The Washington Post is Democrat owned

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    May 17th 2017, 11:41 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Wrong again, the The Washington Post is democrat :)

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    May 17th 2017, 1:11 PM

    @Mark Mcloughlin: my bad, I got mixed up between this and yesterday’s “fake news”

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    May 16th 2017, 11:21 PM

    Trump is a known liar. Asking Comey to let it go sounds very like something Trump would do.

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    May 17th 2017, 1:07 AM

    @Reg: Comey is a wimp. J Edgar Hoover wouldn’t have put up with this. He had both Jack and Bobby Kennedy running scared.

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    May 17th 2017, 1:32 AM

    @Reg: trump threatens Comey with “tapes” of their conversations. Turns out Comeys been keeping notes all along of every meeting they had. Comey has all angles covered. Trump is a moron who is so far out of his depth. He’s in the big leagues now and he is sinking faster than a.. sink..

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    May 16th 2017, 11:37 PM

    Let me guess both the leaker and author of the memo are annonomous .

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    May 16th 2017, 11:37 PM

    @Joe Caulfield: it’s a way of avoiding annihilation.

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    May 17th 2017, 1:34 AM

    @Joe Caulfield: the author of the memo is clearly named

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    May 17th 2017, 6:11 AM

    @Joe Caulfield: The author of the memo is named in the second sentence of the article. I bet you stopped reading at the picture….

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    May 16th 2017, 11:19 PM

    Trump certainly believes in political policing.

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    May 16th 2017, 11:35 PM

    Takes a wise man to act the fool.
    If you become Commander and Chief and you don’t trust or even like your minions then its your job and responsibility to remove them.
    Executive Office means exactly that.
    Whether non- Americans don’t like the colour of his skin or his politics or world views: tis no matter.
    He is the Man in the Big Job and if he cant deliver Big or Biggly decisions then he has no place there.
    Wait and see.
    Tittle tattle and armchair world leader opinions matter nout.
    He makes decisions.
    Thats what he’s supposed to do.
    As I say – wait and see.

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    May 17th 2017, 12:08 AM

    @Brendan McLaughlin: What horse shite

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    May 17th 2017, 12:45 AM

    @Brendan McLaughlin: So basically he’s got the top job so he can do anything he wants? That’s now it works kid……

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    May 17th 2017, 11:43 AM

    @Brendan McLaughlin: Yup well said

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    May 16th 2017, 11:57 PM

    More sources and anynomous people. Comey himself will clear this up. Whether it’s true or not.. saying i hope is not the same as i order you. Time will tell.

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    May 16th 2017, 11:59 PM

    Leaked memo claims Trump asked Comey to drop FBI probe. A leaked memo that the media have not seen.. so it’s not a leaked memo. It’s someone claiming a memo. Bit of difference.. like i said Time will tell if this is true or not…

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    May 17th 2017, 12:03 AM

    @LITTLEONE: the New York Times is a reputable media outlet and will not risk Presidential hostility by making up false stories.

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    May 17th 2017, 12:15 AM

    @Tony Daly: reputable media. The new York times. Dear lord . They have run so many fake stories. I have lost count.. new England patriots springs to mind..

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    May 17th 2017, 12:41 AM

    @LITTLEONE: Go back to Russia, troll.

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    May 17th 2017, 1:36 AM

    @LITTLEONE: this coming from the person that earlier pushed a story based on evidence a guy said was on a laptop he had never seen or held.

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    May 17th 2017, 7:24 AM

    His name was Seth rich

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    May 17th 2017, 8:40 AM

    @LITTLEONE: so he’s still alive? You total and utter moron. Or are you saying the family hired a detective named Seth Rich? The detective said he was in contact with wikileaks based on proof on a laptop that he had not seen or touched. Your bias is showing clown.

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    May 17th 2017, 9:22 AM

    @Tony Daly: The NY Times published a later retracted story that Russia had hacked the US electricity grid. Their editor has said because they dont like Trump they dont have to be objecftive. So understandibly the voters didnt trust the media last year. A Quinnipiac poill a few days ago showed 58% unhappy with media coverage of Trump. The bias is just too much

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    May 17th 2017, 9:43 AM

    @LITTLEONE: When it comes from your boss with the power to sack you, “I hope you can….” is exactly the same as “I order you to…”. And the fact that he then did sack him can tell it’s own story, if are not too blind to look. And that exact point won’t be lost on the others in his employ when he asks them to do something next time.

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    May 17th 2017, 10:00 AM

    @Tony Daly: Oh FFS do you own shares in the times or owrk for them . Many corrections https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/19/pageoneplus/corrections-april-20-2017.html

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    May 17th 2017, 10:50 AM

    Dave. The simple fact you wrote what you did After i said his name was Seth rich tells me a lot.. dear lord Dave . Do some reading… Calling someone a moron and clown after you the idiot thought i meant Seth rich was the detective or is still alive… Ah Dave your flustered again. Calm down…. Get with the story Dave. Stay up to date… Wow.. that’s some rant Dave.
    Here to set you off again.
    His name was Seth rich. No that’s not you now .. don’t be getting flustered again…

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    May 17th 2017, 1:15 PM

    @LITTLEONE: “@LITTLEONE: this coming from the person that earlier pushed a story based on evidence a guy said was on a laptop he had never seen or held.” your reply: “his name was Seth Rich” no, the him guy I was referring to was not named Seth Rich. Jeez your lack of comprehension skills are letting you down badly today.

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    May 17th 2017, 2:01 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: : your definitely flustered… Here Dave … Just for you… Brad Bauman a professional Democrat crisis PR consultant with the Pastorum Group. Remember him.. wonder what he meant yesterday on his personal Facebook page when he said this… Considering there is meant to have been no contact with wikileaks.. he says this. The emails are doctored.. their timing is suspicious… What emails????? Jump on over to his Facebook page.. comments alone are worth a read… Dave for some one not interested in the Seth rich story ,. You sure are doing your best to keep me intrigued… Thanks …. Always find when people are trying to push you away from something . The more you should stay looking. Amazed what you see…

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    May 17th 2017, 5:12 PM

    @LITTLEONE: all I’ve ever said is there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of your claims. Also he is a spokesman for the family, that is what they asked him to do. You’re so wilfully trampling over the wishes of the family, its disgusting. Bring evidence or you’re talking nonsense. You have only presented assumptions and conspiracy with no substance whatsoever. All I’ve asked is that you provide something solid but you can’t do that. All you do is lie, repeatedly, like you did with your false accusations against me earlier.

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    May 17th 2017, 2:57 AM

    Somebody get him out before he asks what the big red button does..!

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    May 16th 2017, 11:36 PM

    Governance MY way or the Highway . Trumps everything.

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    May 17th 2017, 12:02 AM

    The American press is wearing an Anonymous mask.

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    May 17th 2017, 9:20 AM

    These reports are based on anonymous sources which suggests people may be lying to avoid getting sued or charged under the Espionage Act 1917.

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    May 17th 2017, 5:52 AM

    The yanks would elect my dog

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    May 17th 2017, 12:02 AM

    Obviously someone is out to get him… hope they do, much harder to do now, then the Watergate thing! As in claming its all *fake news* & sure who really knows?

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    May 17th 2017, 9:21 AM

    @Colette Kearns: Watergate took 2 years.

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    May 17th 2017, 1:30 AM

    A source claims…….

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    May 17th 2017, 12:46 AM

    Schmidt of the NYT is the reporter. He has yet to confirm or deny his wiretapping and reporting back to Obamas WH gem published on January 20th.

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    May 17th 2017, 1:37 AM

    @Joe Caulfield: because that’s not what that article said and you know it.

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    May 17th 2017, 12:13 AM

    I don’t think Comey would be leaking too many memos about Putin if he’d been working for him, if he had any sense of self preservation.

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    May 17th 2017, 7:55 AM

    Let me guess the white house response. “fake news”. Easy. Maybe the reason trump likes shouting about fake news is because of the skeletons in his closet

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    May 17th 2017, 8:36 AM

    Some amount of leaks coming out of the Whitehouse. It’s crazy.

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    May 17th 2017, 6:39 AM

    Zero evidence for a probe damaging American trust and democracy. If he did ask comey he was right to do so.

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    May 17th 2017, 8:11 PM

    @Dean Burroughs: right to break the law? The mental gymnastics you’re performing are fantastic

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    May 17th 2017, 12:43 AM

    He’s going down faster than a Russian hooker. He will quit before he’s impeached because he’s a thin skinned coward like his backers.

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    May 17th 2017, 7:36 AM

    What goes up must come down

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    May 17th 2017, 6:23 AM

    What has Comey to gain by lying or making things up ?
    Trump is such chump and is so poorly educated generally but is particularly ignorant on “civics” that he doesn’t even know what, who or why all members of the FBI give an oath to!
    So to ask Comey to give undying fealty and loyalty to the office of President was as dumb ass as it gets for me . Futile, moronic, imbecilic, incredible and GUBU all come to mind . HAIL to the chief indeed !

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    May 17th 2017, 11:02 AM

    @James Kelly: Revenge?

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    May 17th 2017, 12:35 PM

    Trump is bringing American interests to an all time low. He’s got to go.

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