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HALLOWEEN IS UPON us.
The night lies caught betwixt our mortal existence and the spirit-filled Otherworld.
On this evening those who live in this other realm are more likely than ever to cross over into our own, and their intentions are more likely for worse than for better.
You best take precautions to protect yourself against their dark charms, while also taking advantage of the occult powers this night may grant you.
But… instead, here you are, sitting on your backside, reading TheJournal.ie. Do you not have anything better to be at?
Probably not. Let’s do a quiz, so, to keep you busy.
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Greed pure and simple.
@Brenda McCormack: A previous version of FFG were in charge when that centre was first mooted and tonnes of brown envelopes were given to councillors as hush money.
https://magill.ie/archive/massive-payments-politicians-and-huge-rezoning
@Brenda McCormack: They all do it. Dundrum has 15 minute free parking. But it’s not advertised and, even if you are under 15 minutes, and you insert your ticket in the payment machine, you get charged. You have to skip the payment machine and insert it in the barrier to the 15 minute grace period. Other shopping centers don’t change when you insert the ticket in the machine and you spend less than the grave period in the store. Now that’s greed!!!
@C: I know it was a typo in your last sentence, but a grave period is how I’d describe any time spent in any of these shopping centres :)
Boycott Liffey Valley….
@Shane McGrath: we’ll I most certainly am not going to pay for parking in a car park that notorious for cases being broken into
@Ní Dhuill Patricia: I am also going to boycott LV. The only reason I go there is to spend my money. Why should I pay to spend. No concession for disabled either. Public transport is of no use to them. Absolutely disgraceful decision to charge staff and customers. Blanchardstown is where I’m going to spend my Christmas Euro.
@Ní Dhuill Patricia: had my 94 Nissan Micra robbed twice from that car park a few years ago, was the last of its kind that can be hot wired.
@Shane McGrath: Well said
@2thFairy: I live nearly, go very often for a coffee n cake and a read of the Times. Im a disabled person so I need my car to go. So it will be coffee in the Garden centres or the village in lucan from now on. And I also do a lot of shopping while I’m in LV having a coffee!…. Past tense… did a lot of shopping.
Ridiculous that staff have to pay for parking.
@Charlie: Employers need to discourage their staff using cars to get to work..
@Roger Bond: all the large multinationals with acres of car parking and better paid employees should do the same so. Charge those who drive out to shop there – not the employees
@Roger Bond: explain how this is something employers want? There is literally no incentive for employers to encourage employees to use public transport.
@Paolo Fandango: there needs to be a general push to disincentives private transport to meet sustainability goals, which employers may eventually have to contribute to. However, there also needs to be a commensurate delivery of public transport to compensate. Whilst the statement from liffey Valley highlights improved public transport provision, is it sufficient and timely to facilitate staff and customers?
@D. Memery: all fair and reasonable points. But not quite relevant or answering my question to Roger.
@Charlie: Hospital staff all have to pay for parking.
@John Fagan: no thats not true for all Hospital, staff, free parking in a lot of hospitals throughout the country for staff, for now.
@John Fagan: hospital staff are more likely to have better payment. Most employees in Liffey are in or near minimum wages.
Anyhow I hardly think hospital staff will sleep any better knowing Liffey valley staff will pay for parking also.
@Martin Matthews: €15 a day for the hospital
I work in and I know of others the same
A shopping centre charging staff to park and saying it’s part of their green agenda. That’s absolute hoop
Shopping centres absolutely want cars arriving because you’ll definitely be more likely to spend if you’ve a boot to take all the stuff home.
Problem here is staff ain’t filling their cars up so they’re trying to get a few bob off them in a different way.
@Paolo Fandango: I worked in an office with no staff parking, you have 3 choices. Drive and park nearby and pay, public transport or cycling. Dundrum Shopping Centre had paid parking from the start.
Disgraceful
I wonder if 6 weeks of customers doing out best to hit blanch or the square in tallaght instead of Liffey Valley would make any impact on it
@Michael Rossney:
Maybe they’re next
@Michael Rossney: the toll bridge is more expensive than the parking
@Michael Rossney: The Square introduced parking charges last month.
Well! I guess I won’t be going to Liffey Valley shopping center anymore. Imagine parking a mile away from the shops ( after sitting in a long queue to get there in the first place) and then having to pay for the privilege of getting a tight parking spot… Nah!!!!
Good to see a party stand up for workers for once, a job that used to be done by Labour. Interesting to see a recent poll where the 4th largest party in the State was PBP.
@Dean: was the poll carried out by the pbp who are the smallest party in the state
@Richard Ryan:
Sunday Independent poll, carried out last month, has PBP as the fourth largest party in the State.
“An enhanced parking experience” Liffy Valley calls it! What utter rubbish. Next thing is we’ll be told by the fuel suppliers that all the increases are because they are now providing us with enhanced petrol & electricity. I’ve never heard such downright stup1d1ty. Call it what it is – greed.
Such a wrong time to introduce this charge, with fuel and other costs going sky high. If liffey Valley persist with this it should be boycotted in support of the workers.
The real scandal is that these workers employers aren’t doing anything for them. The shops they work for are the centres clients in terms of tenants and free parking has been included for 24 years, the retail outlets need to put pressure on the centre management. It shouldn’t be down to the workers to protest.
Another Ramon Ryan promotion no doubt
@Paul Crowley: Evidence?
Still cheaper than taking the bus, everybody has to pay to go to work.
@Nirvana Barbarossa:
If they’re driving to work it isn’t free anyway
Sorry, but parking charges will not encourage me to go there, in fact more likely will result in me not going. Was never a fan of the parking there.
Today I was out in Swords and while I did want to look in one shop in Pavillion, I parked on main street instead and just ran in and back out.
If there wasn’t fee for parking, I would have been more likely to visit and spends coupe hours.
@Conrad Shields: The first two hours of parking in The Pavilions is free.
All staff agree to walk out , Liffey Valley bosses wouldn’t last to long if there are no shops open!!! Hard enough getting staff in any sector nevermind the retail sector
@Brian Slacke: unfortunately a lot of retail staff earn barely enough to keep their heads above water, most of them aren’t even unionised, my point is many just wouldn’t have the luxury of a walk out. I seen it myself in the Dunnes Strikes in the 90s, some of the workers still went in as couldn’t afford to go on strike (and they were unionised!)
Charging staff to park at their work place and charging clients to park while they visit to spend their hard earned cash is criminal
More Green nonsense. The Greens are doing their best to make life worse for everyone
Was the likes of Liffey Valley shopping center and Blanchardstown not bought by investment companies lately?
I think the prices are fair but if there is a dedicated area for staff parking then it should just be free for them.
I wont pay to visit a shopping centre, especially in Spliffy Valley
US investment funds what do we expect when FG/FF sell to the highest bidder while riding the country ! Get them out
No more Liffey Valley for me. Playing into Amazons hands.
The best is boycott for a few weeks and i mean not to go to the centre attall
Won’t be going there so again. It’s not fair to the staff,businesses or punters. Loose loose loose.
Not fair on Tesco & LV Retail Park. Savvy customers will likely clog up their carparks to avoid charges.
As they are so concerned about the environment I guess the profit from parking will be donated to environmental projects. They must remember that wealth is the caused of climate change, poor people have lower carbon footprints.
E interesting to see the customer levels in this place in the next couple of weeks.
Tenants aren’t going to be too happy if prospective customers drop. Gonna be hard enough to get people to spend money in the next couple of months as it is.
Go to blanchardstown
Boycott liffe valley for now no costomer should paid for shopping they have no right charging the employ
If they get it free then do they have to pay bik???
@Jerriko17: no, if parking is available free to all the staff then no BIK. If only free to some then it would be a BIK to those.
@Jerriko17: A quick google search will show you what BIKs are taxed! Faster for you to look it up than typing that comment.
“That’s mad, Ted!”
If every employee in LVSC stuck together and went on strike on Christmas week to fight this ridiculous charge, I think they would come out with at least a compromise.
@Larry Byrne: Why would they wait till Christmas? This is implemented today.
I live nearby, but am a disabled driver. I sometimes go to LV for a coffee and read of the papers. I don’t think there is any exemption planned for disabled drivers, who cannot access shops without a car. So I will avoid LV going forward and have coffee elsewhere. Pure greed under the guise of Green policy, a policy I generally support.
Parking costs destroyed DunLaoghaire , it’s like a ghost town now since Dundrum Shopping Centre and if it can do this to a beautiful town like Dunlaoghaire I can only imagine what it will do to Liffey Valley .
Always loved to pop out here regularly for an hour or so, not much more. Get a few bits, have a coffee and a mosey but would rather pop into town instead now much easier. Always got parking before so never saw the need to “upgrade” it. To get there by public transport not really an option for me (bus into town & back out), no Luas and cycling well over an hour each way so town it is from now on.
Blanchardstown will be charging soon they are putting all the barriers in place
@David: Where’s these barriers then ?
@David: we’ll, that’s just a lie
So would that mean disability pass holders can park for free?
@Ciaran McCann: why would it mean that?
@Luke Ronan: public transport is not an option for many disabled drivers. Charging shoppers to spend their hard earned taxed, cash This decision is an utter disgrace.
“Liffey Valley says the changes are “in keeping with our sustainability agenda” and a “shift to more sustainable modes of transport”.”
So, free parking for electric cars then?
So parking will cost €2.50 even if you are just going in to collect something from one shop……..I will be rethinking where I shop from now on. Not right to be charging staff for parking either.
Everyone on the workers side and I get it but it’s 3.20 an hour to park in Dublin CC where I work, that’s 25.60 a day! It’s also why I get a bus. The 2.50 a day they are being asked to pay is very little for all day parking. If they don’t pay for it they’ll be taxed for it. “free parking” at work is a taxable benefit that revenue introduced over a decade ago.
@Phil Swan: Revenue don’t introduce anything. They are used as the collection agent for the Government.
@Phil Swan: Per revenue.ie free parking is not a Benefit in Kind so is not taxed at all. https://www.revenue.ie/en/employing-people/benefit-in-kind-for-employers/other-benefits/use-of-facilities-sports-recreational-childcare-and-carparks/car-parking.aspx
It’s one thing if people have always had to pay for parking but very different with it being suddenly introduced 20 years after the centre opens & staff are now being hit with a charge.
If they get their way will they have to pay benefit in kind tax like many others.
@Jerriko17: not true.
That is unfair.
They’re dead right. Staff paying for parking is simply wrong and I won’t pay for parking at Liffey valley as a customer. It will just be removed as a shopping destination for me
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