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Employees 'too fearful' to tell bosses they should be adhering to working from home advice

This week the Tánaiste said the main reason more people are attending work now is the wider definition of essential work.

EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE been told they cannot work from home, even though they believe they can do their jobs remotely, have expressed frustration that public health messaging is not directed more at employers.

Officials have recently re-emphasised their call on workers to work from home, where possible, as daily case numbers have crept back up. On Thursday Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan said he thinks this message “really hasn’t gotten through”.

“I mean, you look at the traffic and you look at what’s going on and workplaces. People will tell you stories about car parks are full; canteens are full in workplace settings. So people are really not listening to this message and they’re meeting up unnecessarily,” he said.

“It’s absolutely clearly understood that not everybody is in a workplace situation where they can work from home. But clearly many, many people who are in situations where they can work from home are choosing not to do so and coming into the workplace and meeting up and having engagements that are leading to transmission opportunities.”

Deputy CMO Dr Ronan Glynn acknowledged that there are “two parts to the story” when it comes to attendance at work.

“There’s the employees, but there’s also the employers. And employers have a significant responsibility to take these messages on board as well and to encourage and facilitate employees insofar as is possible to work from home at the moment.”

A number of workers who spoke to TheJournal.ie said their roles could be fulfilled from home – and some were done remotely during the first lockdown – but they have been required to attend their workplaces during the current round of Level 5 restrictions. 

One woman who works for a law firm said infrastructure was put in place during the first lockdown to facilitate all staff working remotely.

However, staff have been required to attend the office since the summer. Legal services are deemed essential under the government’s guidelines and many workers in this sector are being told to come to work, even if their jobs could technically be done remotely.

“My employer doesn’t believe that anyone’s work can be done effectively from home and has therefore said that our physical presence is required in the office,” the woman said.

“The reality is that staff here absolutely could work from home. We can’t get trials on for hearing in the courts and meetings which would ordinarily have been in person are now conducted via video or conference call. We now all spend all day, every day sitting in front of computer screens or on the phone. Of course we could do this at home.”

She said colleagues are “too fearful” to raise the issue with their employer.

“I cannot express how incredibly frustrating it was to hear Dr Tony Holohan say that people are recklessly ‘choosing’ not to work from home because ‘the message hasn’t got through’,” she said.

I have done all I can in my own personal life to abide by all the restrictions that have been put in place. I hear the message about working from home but as an employee I am powerless to heed it without my employer’s support.

“Any public opprobrium for ‘full carparks and work canteens’ should be directed at employers who are refusing to allow their employees to work from home, not at employees who are frightened of losing their jobs.”

The Law Society said it is up to individual law firms to decide when they should open, basing their decision on the nature of work they do, how they do it, and the logistics of the workplace they operate within.

“The courts, also designated by government as an ‘essential service’, have remained open for urgent business,” it said. “Solicitors must attend the courts to provide access to justice for their clients, while complying with the same social distancing rules required of everyone everywhere.”

The society said it has issued guidelines to solicitors to help them to adjust to remote working, including advice on risk assessments, internal communication, accommodating vulnerable staff, reorganising workplaces and accommodating clients.

Employment law experts have said workers in the majority of cases do not have a contractual right to work remotely if their employer wants them on site.

In some sectors, there may be logistical barriers such as GDPR that prevent them from allowing at-home working. In other cases, employers may believe their workforce is less productive at home and require them to come into their workplace, despite the government advice. 

One public sector worker who is in an administrative role said some people in her team are allowed to work part of their week at home, but she has been told her role requires her to be onsite.

“My manager has refused my request to work from home even though I rely on an overcrowded bus line to come to work every day,” she said.

The woman said she has a work laptop with a virtual private network on which she has done work from her home on previous occasions, when required. She said she has to take it home with her in case she is identified as a close contact of a confirmed case – if this were to happen she would be allowed to work from home during her self-isolation period.

The woman said she was hoping to be allowed to work at her family’s home, which is in a different county, over the Christmas period but has been told she cannot do this either.

It is incredibly upsetting as I haven’t seen my family since March because of Covid but want to spend Christmas with them, and I’m having to beg for extra leave those days so I can travel back to see them – otherwise I’ll have spent the last seven months virtually alone.

An employee who works in a large retailer’s head office said his company is “selecting various workers individually and demanding they come into the office because they’re not being efficient enough at home”.

He said these workers are being told they are “essential to the business”.

“They’re saying that people have to come into the office to work the phones, but we don’t take orders over the phones and I’ve worked in businesses before where phones can be redirected to someone’s land line or mobile,” he said. “Everything else is just done via our work laptops that are given to us anyway.”

He said he made a complaint to the Health and Safety Authority (HSA) but was told that it is up to an employer to determine which roles are required to be done in the workplace.

“I get that the current government wants to give businesses slack but it’s even more a slap in the face than usual when they’re calling this a choice.”

Speaking to the Oireactas Committee on Enterprise, Trade and Employment this week, Tánaiste Leo Varadkar said there are “lots of different reasons” why there are more people going to work now than there were back in March and April.

“First of all there is a wider definition of essential work, we’re now including construction, manufacturing, international trade in services, supply chain, there’s a lot more – hundreds, thousands more people – deemed essential,” he said.

“Childcare as well, education, things that were always essential in our minds but weren’t deemed essential back in March and April that are.

“So that’s the main reason, I think, why there are more people going to work now and the traffic count counts are higher now than they would have been back in the spring.”

He said there are also people who do want to get back into their offices.

“I have heard from employers even in the public service of people being allowed back to the office for mental health reasons, because they were suffering at home for reasons around their own mental health or even issues around relationships, or being in overcrowded housing accommodation.

“So there may be lots of different reasons why people are back at work, and I don’t think the main reason is employers pressurising people to come to work when they could work from home.”

Varadkar said this is “not to say it does not happen” and he has heard examples of it himself.

“There are people who could work from home and perhaps feel they’re being pressurised into coming into the workplace when that’s unnecessary, I’ve come across some examples myself or people have contacted me about them.

“And what we’ve done to date is to point them in the direction of the WRC and that’s the appropriate body really that can deal with complaints from people who believe they can work from home who are being told that they have to come in when perhaps they don’t.”

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    Mute Mike Clinton
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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:03 AM

    Enough, FFS!! Enough is enough.
    No self respecting human can say this act of pure savagery was done on their behalf.
    May the innocent victims of these animals rest in peace.

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    Mute Glen
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    Jul 18th 2014, 9:58 AM

    Tragic event and an awful way to die.

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    Mute royston T justice
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    Jul 18th 2014, 11:06 AM

    ..Glen you don’t perhaps work for a living do you? Your here more than me!

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    Mute Glen
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    Jul 18th 2014, 11:17 AM

    Early retirement Royston

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    Jul 18th 2014, 11:22 AM

    Rocket Science must take a lot out of ya! ;-)

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:14 AM

    These ‘soldiers’ are brave enough to take up arms and fight for their cause, but too cowardly to come forward and admit responsibility for their actions.

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    Mute Glen
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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:15 AM

    What ” soldiers” are you talking about ?

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:18 AM

    I’m assuming that those responsible label themselves as ‘soldiers’. I could be wrong, maybe they call themselves something else.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:30 AM

    Soldiers don’t do that
    Terrorists do !

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:33 AM

    See my previous comment.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:08 AM

    Surely there should be a warning on the third picture down that there are clearly visible human remains!!! These poor people and their families deserve some respect and this picture should be taken down!

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:09 AM

    Sorry about that, Fiona. That picture wasn’t meant to be there at all.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:13 AM

    I’d say its pretty hard to publish a picture by mistake.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:13 AM

    ..yeah after the Lady spotted it! Bad form guys..

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    Mute Glen
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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:14 AM

    The news has been showing pictures of body’s since yesterday.

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    Mute Carol Wade
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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:15 AM

    Please remove it then.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:18 AM

    Hi guys,

    The picture was in there by mistake and was removed within minutes.

    It was a genuine error on my part and in no way was meant to be exploitative. Had I meant that, I could have used it as the main picture.

    Paul

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:20 AM

    Why would you put a picture of bodies as the main picture?

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:27 AM

    You visited an article with a subject indicating that it was going to show pictures of a plane crash site where almost 300 people have died and now you are complaining because the pictures show the horrific scene in full?

    Wow. Just wow. What did you expect to see when you visited this article?

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:45 AM

    Have to agree Cupán Tae – the subject matter is grim and while it’s unsettling and harrowing to view such footage, from a journalistic point of view I don’t criticise organisations/media that publish such pictures. It brings home the awful reality of what happened.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:58 AM

    @ Cupán Tae

    Some people aren’t happy unless they are offended at least once a day.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 11:09 AM

    Why would a family member scroll down through an article that’s headed “In pictures: The MH17 crash site”?

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    Jul 18th 2014, 12:06 PM

    Because the journalism saying is, if it bleeds it leads.” To get more hits on the article or the site, he could have used that photo as the main article image. Obviously he didn’t because it wasn’t intended that way. But some news outlets will do that as the intended purpose.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 11:08 AM

    Do you remember crash plane in Russia, 4 years ago with Polish president Lech Kaczynski and many Polish politicians? It was an accident-they said. Yes, probably it was. But until today Russian government (or president of Russia?) doesn’t want to give back this plane, recorded tape and they don’t want to investigate what really happen there. Please, don’t do the same mistake again-these top Russian politicians understand only the language of straight and power. If all nations cannot speak on the same way-it may happen again. They don’t care about passengers or their families. It would be sad if this tragedy won’t be a good lesson how to speak with Putin. I hope you have no any doubts he supported terrorists on Ukraine land?

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    Jul 18th 2014, 11:42 AM

    Under international laws, nether the Rebels have any right to take the FDRs since they are not a recognised country and since the aircraft was in Ukrainian airspace the Russians have no right to have it.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 12:52 PM

    International law didn’t stop Russia from taking Crimea.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 2:55 PM

    Will this be another Lusitania or pearl harbour ?? If this was indeed Russia , it would have to be proven , they can’t get away with it , then again media convinced us all there was weapons of mass destruction in Iraq !!!

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:21 AM

    They have been steeping up security recently at airports emphasising to charge up your smart devices before flying etc.

    Just how exactly do they plan on preventing another one of these? It’s a new level and it’s scary.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:27 AM

    It’s not new John, this had happened before & in the Ukraine..

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:34 AM

    Point taken Royston but it’s still going to cost the passenger as now airlines will have to consider every route near a war zone and use an alternate. What is new to me is that someone can take down a plane from the surface at 33,000 feet. Normally they try and get them coming in to land etc. That’s what I meant.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:38 AM

    Also happened in Iraq several years ago, just goes to show no matter how many hoops they make you jump through at security and how many bottles of water they take off you, if someone wants to do something badly enough they’ll always find a way.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:49 AM

    John point taken but your assuming it was a deliberate attack?

    The airline was allegedly shot down by a very sophisticated missile system designed primarily to take down large NATO bombers during the Cold War..

    Perhaps it would be wise for airlines to avoid areas of conflict where these systems are active..

    Personally I think this could have been avoided, there was a lot of Anti Aircraft defence systems active in this region over the past few days. Why this was not taken onboard by the relevant air authorities is something we will have to learn over the coming days..

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:50 AM

    John – “airlines will have to consider every route near a war zone”. I agree. If implemented the vast majority of the Middle East and a large country in Eastern Europe will be no go areas for commercial airlines.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:53 AM

    Barry the Iraq event was a smaller shoulder launched missile intent on targeting a western military or commercial aircraft.. To joe public it seems the same but it’s not. The Malaysian Airways aircraft was transitioning the airspace above Ukraine & flying at 10k above ground, well past the capabilities of the best shoulder fired rocket..

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    Jul 18th 2014, 11:10 AM

    Well aware of the facts of that incident thanks, the plane was still shot down by an a$$hole wasn’t it? My point was in reply to John’s original comment on threat levels and preventing things like this i.e. you can’t.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 12:25 PM

    “What is new to me is that someone can take down a plane from the surface at 33,000 feet.”

    The Soviet-designed Buk missile system can be used to engage targets at an altitude of up to 85,000 feet depending on the version. Missiles capable of engaging targets at extremely high altitude have existed for over 50 years.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:09 AM

    Please remove the picture of the dead bodies. Most news sites have chosen not to show them, I didn’t expect to see it here.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:51 AM

    You should see the news sheets

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    Jul 18th 2014, 11:56 AM

    So you went into an article titled MH17 crash site, and complain when it shows the crash site? What did you expect?

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:10 AM

    Third photo down shows dead bodies, out of respect it should be removed,

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    Jul 18th 2014, 11:40 AM

    They should be given 24 hours to hand over Igor Strelkov or else the world should take over the territory that he is controlling like he was boosting about taking another bird out of the sky just 20 min after the flight crashed

    Putin the s***bag had to have armed them so now it is time the world turned it back on russia
    We need world leader that are not going to shy away from holding the s***bags that did this to account

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:09 AM

    Is it normal for an airliner to fly over a war zone?

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:20 AM

    Apparently is was flying 1000ft above the warzone area. Could only think they did that to save money instead of using fuel to go around it.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:23 AM

    Mark, yes on a particularly busy and active flight path linking two continents

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    Jul 18th 2014, 10:23 AM

    Yep! I flew over Iraq (bagdad to be precise, twice between 06 & 09), although the airline removed the names of the city from the onscreen map you could still make out the Euphrates down in the city.. I guess they just didn’t deem the height we were at as a threat..

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    Jul 18th 2014, 11:04 AM

    @ Jason

    Think it was 33k feet?

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    Jul 18th 2014, 12:09 PM

    I read it and also heard it on news talk. That’s all.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 12:10 PM

    I mean 1000ft above the air/sky area that is deemed a no flyzone. Not as in flying 1000ft above the ground.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 12:51 PM

    More than that even from the information I saw. No-fly zone extended up to 4,000m while MH17 was at an altitude of 10,000m.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 1:17 PM

    I see. Thank you gentlemen.

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    Jul 19th 2014, 5:09 PM

    Why did Ukraine traffic control tell the Airline to drop its altitude.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 2:30 PM

    This horrific event also raises a question regarding civil aviation routing – why in Gods name are passenger aircraft flying over a war zone in the first place? A major rethink required to protect passenger welfare.

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