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Niall Carson

Garda appeal after woman dies in Louth crash

The crash happened on the N2 at Glebe between Ardee and Carrickmacross.

A WOMAN IN her 30′s has died in a single-car collision last night.

Gardaí are currently at the scene of the crash which occurred at approximately 8:50pm yesterday evening, on the N2 road between Ardee and Carrickmacross.

The woman, who was the sole occupier of the vehicle, was pronounced dead at the scene.

She has since been removed and taken to Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital, Drogheda, where a post mortem will be carried out.

The N2 at Glebe outside Ardee remains closed both ways, as Gardaí conduct a technical examination of the scene. Diversions are currently in place.

Gardaí are currently appealing for witnesses to come forward, and for drivers who may have dashcam footage to make it available to the Gardaí.

Gardaí are also looking for any occupants of a white car that was travelling in the direction of Carrickmacross to Ardee at 8:50pm last night to contact the Gardaí.

Anyone with information is urged to contact the Ardee Garda Station on 041 6853222 or the Garda Confidential Line on 1800 666 111.

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    Mute quacquac 51
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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:16 AM

    This sounds quite a good idea in the times we live in, trying to move teenagers away from the drinking cans and smoking weed years. Not to mention having sex aged 15. I read the whole article and was particularly impressed about the youngsters saying abortion is selfish. No truer words spoken and spoken by youngsters is good to hear. What parent could possibly be against this?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:30 AM

    @quacquac 51: so we should trust the judgements a 12 year-old pre-teen boy makes about about adult women they’ve never met?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:36 AM

    @quacquac 51: it’s more than that alone by the looks of it. They don’t turn the other cheek, they take moral guidance from the Bible…. rather that than immoral social media and cultural bigotry.

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    Mute Paul Somers
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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:38 AM

    @JoeJoe Kilbride:

    In a society that is awash with immorality and sin, the Call to Chivalry summer camp aims to instil self-discipline, to educate youth on the beautiful truths of the Catholic Church, and to urge them to be positive elements in bringing the Reign of Christ and His Blessed Mother to society. To achieve these goals, we strive to maintain the highest standard of conduct and virtue at our camps

    From their website

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:46 AM

    @Paul Somers: The Beautiful Truth about decades of child abuse by catholic priests all over the world ..

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:53 AM

    Probably centuries of abuse

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:57 AM

    @Paul Somers: are Muslims allowed to attend to share the beautiful truths of their peaceful religion?? Are Jews allowed to attend to share the beautiful truth of their religion??

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    Mute Cormac O Keeffe
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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:01 AM

    @JoeJoe Kilbride: Yes indeed. While teaching them about compassion it might be a good idea to take them on a school tour to Tuam to see how compassionate some people can be to babies.

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    Mute Pat Perill
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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:08 AM

    @Paul Somers:
    Correction : a moral guidance from their interpretation of the bible.
    You’re welcome.

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    Mute Dermot Lane
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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:35 AM

    @Paul Somers: ask the women of the Magdelaine Laundries, the women who had their babies sold from under them, the boys beaten to to within an inch of their lives by Christian Brothers in industrial schools about the beautiful truths of the Catholic Church. It’s a cult and you’ve been brainwashed. I feel sorry for you.

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    Mute Paddy Keane
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    Jul 8th 2023, 10:21 AM

    @Jo H: @David Kelly: Do you often add the prefix “anti-” to shut down discussions using the motte-and-bailey tactic?

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    Mute Paul Somers
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    Jul 8th 2023, 10:56 AM

    Let’s get something straight here. I was abused by a pedophile, that doesn’t mean its Gods fault for the actions of a bad man

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:06 AM

    @quacquac 51: Lol, everything you mentioned is a lot less innocuous than the fiddling that goes on at this kind of crap. In 5 or 6 years I’m sure we’ll be reading all about in some public abuse case

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:06 AM

    @David Kelly: I would be fairly confident if a Muslim group, Jewish group, or any group wishes to have a gathering to worship God and to promote the 10 commandments which are in principle the same in all religions, they could. Taoism and Buddhist beliefs are slightly different, yet all follow the same principle about not worshipping false idols….that includes… egos… opinions… if you read what is on their website, the overall principle is good. I don’t agree with picking on a group because a journalist wrote about abortion and lambasted the group on that alone. Read, be informed, believe, be humble, and not an idolistic troll.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:32 AM

    @Paul Somers: of course it was. If you believe that your god knows everything and has a plan for everyone then, and he made everyone then your god made that man knowing he would be a pedophile and would go on to abuse you. What’s more he could have prevented it at any time but didn’t. Sorry for the awful thing that happened to you but you religious people don’t half tie yourselves in knots trying to justify your beliefs.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:43 AM

    @Gearóid MacEachaidh: also, why didn’t put in a commandment ‘Parents, respect your children’? It could still be 10 commandments, he could have left out one of the ones demanding we worship him.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:50 AM

    @quacquac 51: send them to scout camps, get them into a sport.

    Wonder who is sending their kids to the fundamentalist weekend?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 12:08 PM

    @Paul Somers: the church is rotten with paedophilia and was covered up by the heads of the organisation. The CHURCH is polluted with it.. to excuse or defend it is to be complicit at this point.

    I note that you conveniently said ‘paedophile’ and not priest.. not sure you’re being very straight in your point.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 12:41 PM

    @quacquac 51: The only person placed to make a decision on abortion is a pregnant woman – everyone else is a spectator with no skin in the game.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:02 PM

    @Paddy Keane: I don’t, and I’m very open to discussion. I do however personally feel that many in the pro life movement (particularly in the context of religion), are anything but, they do not care for the life of the mother, nor the child once born, so I do use the phrase anti-abortion in this instance

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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:22 PM

    @quacquac 51: if it’s not small minded morality and other peoples bodies you’re ranting about it’s Mayo football . How did that work out for you ? :)

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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:37 PM

    @Paul Somers: So a book that was first handed down orally and written in aribic then translated numerous times is a way to guide yourseft.
    The premise of the bible is great, be kind to each other and look after each other. All good. It is the old testament stuff that makes it a mistake to foollow as half the time it contradicts itself.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:36 PM

    @JoeJoe Kilbride: Just as much as we should allow them to choose their own gender identity.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:51 PM

    @quacquac 51:A parent who believes in tolerance, respect and trust of women. A parent who believes in discussion of issues not in indoctrination and the inculcation of hatred and prejudice.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 3:24 PM

    @JoeJoe Kilbride: He would not be making a judgement about women, he would be condemning abortion, which even a preteen boy has a right to do. He even has a right to express it too.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 4:17 PM

    @Paul Somers: creepy

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    Jul 9th 2023, 9:04 AM

    @JoeJoe Kilbride: you’d trust 12yr old boys if they decided they wanted to change gender and pump themselves full of oestrogen though.

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    Jul 9th 2023, 9:05 AM

    @quacquac 51: strange how this comment with the most upvotes, isn’t the top post. What’s going on Journal?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:11 AM

    Sounds a bit cultish to me, creepy even.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:18 AM

    @brendan hackett: Sounds like a scout Jamboree for Nut Jobs

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:30 AM

    @Derek Poutch: to be fair, it sounds more like Sinn Fein’s IRA junior ‘scouts’ wing, if anything.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:54 AM

    @brendan hackett: I agree, but you can’t ban something on the basis that it sounds creepy. If they are peddling hate, they should be banned, if they are acting inappropriately they should lose their charitable status. But all that is presented in the article is that they promote manliness and oppose abortion, neither of which is illegal. The rest as presented is just implication drawn by public representatives. They need more evidence to shut them down.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:56 AM

    @brendan hackett: Catholicism itself is a cult, as are all religions.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:18 AM

    @John Mulligan: ah here you go again with your SF obsession.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:10 AM

    @brendan hackett: You know what? Teaching children how to ‘fist’ sounds a bit ‘creepy’ to me.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:22 PM

    @brendan hackett: why?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:18 PM

    @Quite Frank: You mean, as a Nazi salute and I bet the RCC were sad when they lost the war.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:26 PM

    @Dermot Lane: Perhaps you are just not bright enough to understand spirituality, far more intelligent people than you have no issue with the concept, you bang on about myths as if you have some intellectual capacity and disparage Theists yet your own beliefs/ chosen fairy-tale consists of humanity being nothing more than meatballs hurtling through space and time in a universe that created itself, the irony is laughable really.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 3:09 PM

    @Pat Ahern: earth is hurdling through space at nearly 1700 km/hr. Far more intelligent people than you understand this. Your fear based fairytales of there just has to be a magic man doing it all indoctrination is laughable really.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 3:35 PM

    @John ward: I do not have fear based fairy-tales, its only you have fear of said belief, you are comfortable in your ignorance that’s where you belong, in your laughable faith based religion of Atheism, you know its the smallest faith based church right? and its unprovable, so jog on kid, you probably have a low IQ to match, and it is “hurtling” by the way.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 4:09 PM

    @Pat Ahern: Reading your comment hurt my eyes and quite frankly I’m embarrassed for you. I suggest you brush up on your English comprehension before commenting again.
    You should look up the meaning of atheism. Or to break it down for you. A-theism.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 4:43 PM

    @Pat Ahern: we don’t know how the universe started, therefore magic? Did god create himself? Grow up. Maybe there is a god, I don’t know for sure. But the Judeo/Christain/abrahamic god, as depicted in the Bible, is pure nonsense. The Bible is not the word of God, its a book of ancient texts, written by people who didn’t know where the sun went at night time. The god of the Bible doesnt appear to know what stars are, you’d imagine if he created them, he’d know. If your beliefs are ridiculous, expect ridicule.

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    Jul 9th 2023, 12:14 PM

    @Pat Ahern:
    A Theism is simply having no belief in gods, all thousands of them. No leaders, no priests, bishops, popes, no dogma, no rituals, no praying, no fancy costumes, no funny hats, no religion. And no faith based beliefs, no faith whatsoever in my case. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding of what Atheism is.

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    Jul 9th 2023, 12:17 PM

    @Patrick Corr: Probably hurt your eyes because you are one, you believe in a theory that is unprovable therefore takes faith to defend it, the only thing embarrassing is your type with your hubris attitude which is pretty standard amongst your flock, grow up.

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    Jul 9th 2023, 12:20 PM

    @Tom Mahon: That is what you like to think, you believe in a theory that is unprovable therefore takes faith to defend, the misunderstanding is on you with your narrow mind.

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    Jul 11th 2023, 1:29 PM

    @brendan hackett: Totally agree.Catholic militancy,brings to mind how the institutions protected the abusers,and paedophiles within them historically in Ireland.I am a Christian,tolerant of others’s religious beliefs’.Hopefully not a guise for conversion practices.

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    Jul 11th 2023, 1:31 PM

    @Nicholas McMurry: We’ll Said.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:44 AM

    Why the double standards. Any article for extreme left LGBT+ is locked with only comments supporting their views in place, then comments turned off. very 1984 George Orwell. The article attempts to tie in local diocise when not on their grounds or aware of it. If you shut down any conservatives views without debate why be surprised at rise in extreme right views?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:01 AM

    @Irish love this shy…: it’s indoctrination. Why did it have to be Christians, why did it have to be boys…its purposeful

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    Jul 8th 2023, 10:43 AM

    @Irish love this shy…: “they even pray” good one!

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    Jul 8th 2023, 10:58 AM

    @Irish love this shy…: yeah ok

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:07 AM

    @Irish love this shy…: You have to believe in sky fairies to be extreme right. this is the way

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:40 AM

    @Barney: first of all what does being left or right politically have to do with your sexuality? Are you seriously saying Conservatives can’t be gay? Secondly the Catholic Church is an institution, not a person. There is nothing with attacking an institution and it’s very different from attacking people. And finally, if you want to bring it down to it’s very basic level…. Gay people exist, but there has been zero proof in all of human time on this planet that any single one of the thousands of God’s that have been worshiped actually exist.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 12:19 PM

    @Barney: Being LGBT isn’t on the extreme left, unless you’re a right wing loon. It’s just one of the many ways humans live. I thought Christians were all about love & compassion, funny how it ought extends to the edge of their own cult/skin colour/sexuality

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    Jul 8th 2023, 12:39 PM

    @Art Vandelay: if you think Christians are about love and compassion, you haven’t being paying attention. Some are, yes indeed. But the history of this island paints a different picture.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:59 PM

    @Stephen Murray: how does that make it indoctrination?

    I thought it was only the far right homophobes who misused that phrase?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:14 PM

    @Gearóid MacEachaidh: Gay people do exist with scientific and behavior studies to back it up. Outside LGB often referred as the alphabet people, No in dept studies exist to backup claims. To say they are not politically driven is Naive as laws are put in place discretely to follow extreme left politics. The objection comes when children are targeted or Gender in sports becomes an issue. In the meantime no one is allowed voice any opinion on the contrary as it will offend someone and be removed.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:35 PM

    @Barney: no indept studies to back up what exactly? Gender dysphoria? I suggest you read some books, start with DSMIV for the results of scientific indept studies. I don’t see all comments being deleted, just hateful ones. Yours goes against what you are complaining about but I guarantee it won’t be deleted because it’s not hateful. With regards to trans athletes in sport, that’s a whole different subject to the issue of whether or not trans people exist and believe it or not many gay people, myself included, would not be completely OK with trans women competing against cis women. It’s not a binary issue. But you need to do more research on the whole issue. It’s existed as long as humans have.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:19 AM

    Is Cllr Pender trying to suppress certain points of view? If there is any concern that laws of the land are been broken here, call the guards.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:29 AM

    A Catholic-run camp full of teenage boys, what could possibly go wrong?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:47 AM

    This is the same website that wants kids at pride events

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    Jul 8th 2023, 12:43 PM

    @Umbongo RIGBU: what’s wrong with kids going to pride events?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:31 PM

    @Dermot Lane: as much wrong with kids going to pride fests as going to summer camps like this one.

    Only the Journal seems to think its acceptable to demonise the latter with headlines about non existent local concerns.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:11 PM

    @kenneth Long: I don’t see the correlation. One teaches you to except everyone because everyone is different and that’s OK. The other teaches that there is only one way to be “manly” and that anyone who loves different is condemned to burn in hell for all eternity. I know which one I’d rather my kids attend and it’s not the one who teaches you must each the flesh of a zombie to be “saved”.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 4:00 PM

    @Gearóid MacEachaidh: accept*

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    Jul 9th 2023, 10:54 AM

    @kenneth Long: Pride, is about acceptance and respecting diversity. Religious events, are mostly about intolerance and judging others!

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:59 AM

    So extreme TQ+ is ok and is pushed and pushed but a gathering of another type is to he met with hate and intolerance?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:03 AM

    @Niall Murphy: well Christianity had its chance and resulted in numerous cases of abuse globally. I think it’s OK for people to be reluctant. Fool me once and all that…

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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:30 AM

    Incredible how little self-reflection goes on among progressives, who claim these Catholics “are peddling a message to young boys who don’t necessarily know any better at that age” as if they themselves weren’t embarked on a full bore campaign to peddle LGBTist, anti-male, social-constructivist etc ideology to children through schools, libraries and the media. They honestly believe their degenerate values are self-evidently right and true, rather than what they are: a recent social construct driven largely by publish or perish academic culture and its overproduction of shoddy activist ‘research’.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:52 AM

    Why are these “councillors”concerned about ther peoples children? These boys are being sent by their parents, who obviously have no issue. Mind your own business ans stop interfering with other people’s children.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:25 AM

    @Dermot Lane: Indeed.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:06 PM

    @Irish love this shy…: the sad people are the ones who believe the war god of a bronze age tribe of goat herders is somehow worthy of worship or respect in the 21st century.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:30 PM

    @Dermot Lane: What Irony? I have zero interest in other peoples children.I have enogh of my own to care about any one elses.

    No yiu will just have to accept that parents will raise their children the way that they seem fit, pass on ideologies you find abhorrent and there is nothing you can do about it.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 5:36 PM

    @mnm Skywalker: it’s ironic because the history of Catholicism is one of interfering with other people’s children, that’s why.

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    Jul 9th 2023, 4:57 PM

    @Dermot Lane: Again, what has that got to do with the parents, who are sending their sons to this camp, volountarily? The only people doing the interfeing here are you and the councillors named in the article.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:29 AM

    Sounds odd these days, but tell me what is so great about modern parenting.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:04 AM

    Do we not live in a world were every form of education towards young people is now valued? Or are we at the stage that ‘my value is better than your value’? Live and let live. I am sure there are parents here who wouldn’t bat an eyelid to their children going on a jolly if it was run by the LGBTQ+ community. Live and let live.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:05 AM

    Wouldn’t be for me but they are entitled to their opinions.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:15 AM

    Between 1 in 3 and 1 in 2 pregnancies naturally end in the first trimester – why does God do that?

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    Mute Joan McNulty
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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:36 PM

    Sad to see that The Journal has no other news to report on and sends it’s staff off on a vendetta against this group trying to instill Christian values into teenage boys. Shouldn’t every parent want their sons to be manly and couragous, with the utmost respect for their own bodies and the bodies of everyone they meet and with respect for human life at all stages of development?? Why should this be portrayed as a negative thing? Go and do some real reporting.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 6:06 PM

    @Joan McNulty: well said! The Journal like nothing better than slag off Catholics, but close all comments when it comes to Trans Ideolgy….surely there couldn’t be an agenda at play…

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:30 PM

    @EMcD: Catholics believe a talking snake told a rib woman to eat the wrong apple, for which god cursed all of humanity with original sin, the only cure for which is to drink the blood and eat the flesh of gods own son, who gave himself as a human sacrifice, then rose from the dead 18 hours later… Mmmm…nothing much to slag off there, you’re right!

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    Jul 9th 2023, 11:40 PM

    @Dermot Lane: grand, and yet what does trans ideology try and force on us,…cis, terms, chest feeders and the latest bonus hole…..but go on slag off Catholics….history will be your judge.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:37 AM

    They are clearly teaching incorrect thought
    This needs to be banned under our new progressive hate speech law
    There can be no tolerance of intolerance

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    Jul 8th 2023, 10:31 AM

    @Gerry Kelly: Substitute ‘sharia’ for ‘progressive’ and ‘infidels’ for ‘intolerance’ in what you wrote above and nobody would be able to tell the difference between you and the Ayatollah Khomeini.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:03 AM

    @Irish love this shy…: well that’s just untrue what you said. The media and the state were controlled by RCC. And thousands of their priests abused children worldwide. And when they were reported, the RCC tried to hide them and moved them to other parishes where they started raping children again. The cover up is as bad as the crime.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:10 PM

    @Irish love this shy…: Your church is a paedophile ring, as you just confirmed.

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    Mute Dermot Lane
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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:18 PM

    @Irish love this shy…: One big difference is the Catholic Church under so called ‘saint’ John Paul appointed a senior cleric to protect the reputation of the institution over and above all else, while such abuse continued to be perpetrated upon children. The safety of children was secondary to the good name of the Church. This senior cleric was Ratzinger, later Pope Benedict. This coverup happened in plain sight, in realtime. Every member who remained in this church and said nothing are complicit in the coverup. The fact that of the two men in charge of the coverup and silencing of victims, one went on to be declared a Saint and the other made pope tells its own story about this evil organisation.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:21 PM

    @Irish love this shy…: that sure was a lot of words really saying nothing. Of course the stats for clerical abuse is lower than in secular society. The simple reason for that is numbers of priests compared to the number of people who are not priests. Why don’t you show some honest stats. Why don’t you show the number of abusive priests compared to any other profession in the world. Clerical abuse dwarfs all others. AND if that wasn’t bad enough the church continues to this day to fight compensation claims in the hope that victims will die before getting any money.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:15 AM

    If only the world would go away everything would be grand.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 7:02 PM

    They should have hired drag queens and then the Journal would be praising them to the skies

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    Mute John -- USA
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    Jul 8th 2023, 7:32 PM

    These Call to Chivalry camps seems to be growing, especially in the United States.

    Maybe your average family is getting upset with Pride Month events that corrupt children. Don’t parents have the freedom to give their sons a chance to learn about the virtues of Chivalry: honor, courage, honesty, bravery, manners, boldness, meekness, piety, and purity, among others?

    Or is everyone forced to wave the rainbow flag now in Catholic Ireland?
    What would Saint Patrick do?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 7:43 PM

    @John — USA: It’s widely know that St Patrick would have definitely worn rainbow colours instead of green. Due to a limited availability of bright colours/dyes at the time he had no choice. It’s documented in several historical manuscripts including the book of Kells.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 10:20 PM

    @John — USA: St Patrick boasted about killing 300 or so people because they would not convert to his new religion of peace, despite the fact that the old pre Christian laws actually did promote and encourage honour, courage, bravery and all the other attributes you mention. Women also had greater equality in pre Christian Ireland.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 8:34 AM

    As long as the government is precieved as working for the benefit of the children the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of freedom and almost any depravity.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:27 PM

    Great group. I know some people involved. Very much recommend. This hit piece article is absurd. The fact that a Social Democrat criticises them is a badge of honour really

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:05 AM

    Creepshow. Ireland 1950. Dark Ages.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:35 AM

    The ‘manly virtues’ like handing over your kids to paedophiles and throwing a tenner in the collection basket? Like our good catholic men did for generations?? Ah. No thanks. And any good catholic saying ‘just a minority’, a disgusting excuse. This abuse was tolerated and protected by the very head of the organisation through many years. To pass it off as a minority at thus point us to be complicit.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 5:53 PM

    If the comments are open on this article why aren’t they open on the intersex March for healthcare article???

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:08 PM

    Hilarious hearing a member of the LGBT mafia in Ireland being concerned about indoctrination and shoving their agenda down people’s throats. You couldn’t make it up, talk about cognitive dissonance and lack of self awareness.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:04 AM

    In my head, all I could picture was that episode of Fr Ted with the ‘all priests sports day”. The scene at the end during the credits where two priests are rolling around , having a scuffle on the ground and Dougal runs in and laces one of them with a kick in the arse and then runs away cowardly but with a face of extreme satisfaction.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:41 PM

    @Joe Ivers: One of the organisers is Ruairi O’Hanlon, brother of Fr. Ted star, Ardal. :)

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    Jul 8th 2023, 10:21 AM

    Is there anything to be said for another mass?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 10:35 AM

    @Mick Hanna: no. Never. Waste of an hour.

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    Sep 1st 2023, 2:55 PM

    @Mick Hanna: careful now!

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    Mute Chris O'Brien
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    Jul 8th 2023, 10:49 AM

    Encouraging Catholics to reject the filth of the world by… Hanging out with Catholics.

    Hmmm…

    This seems to have not been thought through for very long.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:22 AM

    The church: Your indoteinating children with your “woke” ideologies.

    The church: Let’s push our ideologies onto children.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:43 AM

    @Lippy: What is one supposed to do to combat an ideology like contemporary progressivism apart from assert one’s own values in response. In a genuinely pluralistic society the presence of this Catholic movement wouldn’t be a problem, but as with other inspirational concepts in the past, liberalism has now turned into its opposite and is an aggressive, intolerant, faith based movement pushing genderist baloney at kids. Teaching them about chivalry and manliness during the summer holidays sounds to me like a great way of counteracting the nonsense they’re taught at school.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:11 PM

    @Irish love this shy…: I don’t emit any vitriol. But I do refrain from presenting the truth to my mother so directly on this subject, I understand that the realisation would be quite traumatic. My children will be fine, I will protect them from the threats that I was exposed to in RCC by ensuring they never get near it.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 3:52 PM

    @Lippy: It is not “the church” on their own pushing anything. IThe boys parents are sending them there. So what is your problem? What has it got to do with you?

    You say you have children. Do your job and look after them, instead of worrying about where other parents sons spend their summers.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:23 PM

    Local concerns extend beyond councillors who expressed concerns when asked for comment?

    Piece of shit journalism this.

    Why do I care about some religious summer camp in Kildare? Why would anyone?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 4:37 PM

    I’d rather my son to a family man,and have some faith, then stuck up a drainpipe, 90percent of fathers would agree.

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    Mute Robert
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    Jul 9th 2023, 8:50 AM

    If this was an LGBT camp, you’d be singing it’s praises. Just more anti-christian rhetoric.

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    Mute goldiefish72
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    Jul 8th 2023, 5:38 PM

    Sounds a bit groomer-ey to me.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:44 AM

    Interesting

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    Mute SerotoninWars
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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:39 PM

    Indoctrination. Simple as that. Plying young minds with propaganda is grooming. I wouldn’t be against a very general education about what people around the world believe but forcing children into one sect over another is something no one should have the right to do.

    You have neither the knowledge nor sense of boundaries as a child to make a seismic life-altering decision like this. If they decide to choose this route as an adult fair enough. Before then it’s simply a dubious campaign to narrow their minds and ruin the psyche of another generation. Nasty stuff.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:25 PM

    @SerotoninWars: Well then don’t send your children to it. But it is none of your business what other parents do.

    The fact is parents have sent their sons to this, and there is nothing you can do about it. Just accept it.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:31 PM

    I too am concerned about a fascist summer school occurring in Kildare

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    Jul 9th 2023, 8:55 PM

    Abortion is not ‘Treatment’ unless it is done specifically to save the Woman’s life. Stop being disingenuous by dishonestly referring to it as ‘Treatment’. Enough of the euphemisms such as treatment, terminations, reproductive freedom. These are all used to detract from what the word means, and to foster an outlook that regards abortion as normal. With a shocking 31,000 abortions in Ireland since the Referendum, talk of extending the time limit up to 6 months, and scrapping the 3 day waiting period, there is nothing wrong with instilling some respect for life and morals into the next generation. It is very much needed.

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    Mute Emmet Murphy
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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:20 PM

    Brainwashing and indoctrination, like Nazi youth in their days and teaching kids how to judge others!

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    Mute Brian McCarthy
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    Jul 8th 2023, 5:22 PM

    It’s actually ISFCC not ISCC. Just checked out their website. . . ultra conservative Catholic indoctrination. Strange that it’s strictly just for boys from 12 to 18 years. Father’s are invited to attend the camps too which is very creepy.
    They’re obsessed with the Rosary.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 12:38 PM

    Did you know you’re Birth/ Baptism certificate is worth a lot of money to the Church? If you research this, it will come as quite a shock. Also if you wish to disenfranchise yourself from the Church, you have to pay for it and let them know. Otherwise they actually do still count you as Roman Catholic.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 12:40 PM

    @Mick Hanna: they won’t let you leave any more.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:03 PM

    @Dermot Lane: Well Dermot, we are Roman Catholic against our will. So much for God giving us Free will eh? But of course it doesn’t mean nothing to the leaders of a Cult!

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    Jul 8th 2023, 2:36 PM

    @Irish love this shy…: but I WAS forced to believe, I was brainwashed as a kid, so were you, I’d say. I managed to break free of that brainwashing and now see the Catholic Church for the bigoted, evil institution that it is and always has been.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 11:55 PM

    Excellent! Anothet way for teens. The culture is the cause of the crisis in mental illness, anxiety, body and gender dysphoria, suicide etc. CAHMs cannot cope. Foley introducing school counsellors. Enough!

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    Jul 8th 2023, 6:13 PM

    Sounds like a version of Hitler Youth. They make the Irish Catholic Youth Council sound left wing.

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    Jul 8th 2023, 9:27 PM

    @rosemary flowers: Why? What is far right about them?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 12:30 PM

    Oh,I can smell the hate and bigotry for the gays as if it was only yesterday! 1981, I remember the smell of it then and I smell it now! But not to worry lady boys, you didn’t frighten me then nor would you now! That aside!! To think that in this enlightened age people still tell religious ghost stories with such veracity as if to imply they were real,bless!! Such a strange concept! But you are all entitled and welcome to your faith and beliefs,just one thing,maybe just as you would do with your money, keep your god to yourself! I don’t want either! This comment section went off topic right out of the gates! If people choose to send their kids or indeed if the kids choose to go to these events,that is their choice! It’s just such a waste of a beautiful life to fill it with such bitterness and hate so early on! This is a personal opinion, no answers,comments,snide remarks,keyboard warrior enthusiastic response required! Just get on with your life and leave others to get on with theirs!

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    Mute Art Vandelay
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    Jul 8th 2023, 12:20 PM

    Bunch of extremist creeps

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    Jul 8th 2023, 5:46 PM

    Nobody Kills more babies than God. Thousands wiped out in that flood, so there was!

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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:33 PM

    Names in the article are misspelled. The councillors quoted are Chris Pender and Nuala Killeen

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    Jul 8th 2023, 1:28 PM

    Should be banned

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    Mute bradán feasa
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    Jul 10th 2023, 10:59 AM

    Great to see such tolerance and unanimous support for people’s right to religious freedom and freedom of speech on display here in the comments section, boola boss folks

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    Mute Live not by lies
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    Jul 15th 2023, 5:31 PM

    I find it somewhat ironic that those opposing the camp insinuate that the boys are being abused in same-sex pedophilic relationships, while at the same time they complain that the boys are being indoctrinated against same-sex relationships and all the LGBTs.
    I am an 18 year old girl. Many of my very closest male friends and acquaintances have repeatedly attended camps put on by this organisation, including this one in Clane. None of them have been abused or groomed or otherwise hurt in any way. They all come home full of stories of foam sword battles, hikes in the beautiful mountains, songs from international folk culture, treasure hunts, virtuose bagpipe playing, and most of all a wonderfully strong, wholesome cameraderie.
    Seeing that many of these boys are my closest friends and that they, as well as the camp counselors I have met, plus the students I know from their academy, are very respectful of me and women in general, I think I am fairly adequately qualified to respectfully assure Nuala Kileen that it is not the “P” in “Tradition, Family, Property” which refers to women, but the “F.”
    It makes me sad for Ireland that a Christian summer camp which provides boys with wholesome, enriching activities (rather than a summer of gaming or rotting on the couch) should be so frowned upon and scorned.

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    Jul 11th 2023, 1:08 AM

    Will there be medical help for the ripped backsides?

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    Jul 8th 2023, 7:17 PM

    They are the problem

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