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THE STRATEGY FOR rolling out the Covid-19 vaccine is to be presented to government by 11 December, according to Taoiseach Micheál Martin.
Speaking to reporters at Dublin Port today, he said he spoke to the chairman of the Government’s vaccine taskforce, Professor Brian McCraith this morning about the delivery of the report on how to manage a national vaccine roll-out.
The taskforce is meeting today to discuss the logistics of the plan, such as, in addition to GPs and pharmacies, who else might be able to administer the vaccine.
“They’re working very energetically on this. He [McCraith] hopes to have a strategy for government by the 11th of December, in terms of how we will distribute vaccines.
“It will require a national effort to get the vaccines out properly and safely. And we are working with all stakeholders and people generally to cooperate with us.
“And again, a bit like the inter-agency cooperation on Brexit, we will need inter-agency cooperation. All hands on deck for a national effort around the vaccine as well,” said the Taosieach.
The taskforce will today also discuss what groups should get the vaccine first, and the plan for vaccinating healthcare workers.
The issue of indemnity will also be a matter up for discussion, which will factor in the role the State Claims Agency will play.
How consent forms are administered as well as how data is collected from those that are vaccinated are also some of the matters the need to be worked out.
Due to some of the vaccines requiring below 70 degrees storage facilities, the logistics around storing the vaccine in some cases needs to be clarified.
It is understood that Pfizer has agreed to transport its vaccine to each member state in the EU, and to also provide storage trucks.
It is believed that mandatory vaccination of the population is not something under consideration.
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Fantastic news on the vaccine front with the Oxford vaccine showing good results.
Dear Santa, Please provide a Covid vaccine for all of us who wish to take it. Don’t worry you anti maskers, the rest of us will take it to protect your families.
@Fionn Darland: What have anti-maskers got to do with a vaccine? Are you suggesting that because they’re anti-mask they must also be anti-vaccine. Not always the case I’d imagine.
@Fionn Darland: Anti maskers will be back on the streets with craziness like vax controls people’s actions or whatever madness they can dream up and when it works back out to claim they were right all along and the whole c19 thing was a hoax designed to control people. Impossible to argue with them so ignore and they’ll get older, maybe even get some sense (doubtful) and go away.
@JedBartlett: “are you suggesting that because they’re anti mask they’re must also be anti-vaccine”
I’d say it’s a safe bet to assume eejits will continue to be eejits
@JedBartlett: I’m suggesting they are anti-science.
@JedBartlett:
I’d say it’s as close to a 1:1 correlation as you’ll get. Multitasking conspiracy theories is their specialty. :-)
@Kevin: true. Anti masker, anti vaxxer, gemmanoid, trumper, brexiteer, etc. They are a special breed.
@Paul Furey: It’s assumptions like this and pigeon-holing people that has the world the way it is now. Everything is about conflict. People so strongly believe in their own opinions that there is no room for debate. Everyone else is simply wrong or crazy.
If somebody is pro-brexit or pro-trump or anti-vaccine or whatever, that’s their business. I don’t agree with them but I don’t see the point in labeling them as some kind of fruitcake club. It serves no purpose.
@Fionn Darland: good on ya, well said.
@JedBartlett: if it’s wrong to laugh at science deniers then I don’t wanna be right
@Mark: Bumper sticker stuff
@JedBartlett: I’d buy that bumper sticker
@Mark: Oh? Is it not only trump supporters that buy bumper stickers..?
@Fionn Darland: If you want to get the vaccine good for you, knock yourself out. Lots of people don’t want to take vaccines for varying reasons, it’s their choice. So don’t just assume they are anti mask and anti vaxxers. Be careful you don’t fall from that high horse your on.
@Fionn Darland: you’re a true hero Fionn
@Joe Moore:
It’s the re-education camp for you and your despicable libertarian “opinions” Missy!!
@JedBartlett: You are imagining that.
@JedBartlett: That’s just your imagination..
@Fionn Darland: Not enough evidence yet that it prevents transmission as trils haven’t been conducted to study this, so it will be protecting those who are vaccinated. Needless to say, I won’t be going anywhere near my Granny till she has had it.
@JedBartlett: Just a goverment troll doing it’s job!
Strategy to be presented on December 11th? What have they been doing since March? Why isn’t there a ready-made plan?
@David Law: this is Ireland, you must be new here
@Winston Smith: i agree a vaccine taskfore should be up and running long go. With 3 companies now with a vaccine the whole country should be vacinated by March.
@donny12345: you look at countries like USA UK Canada etc, ready with plans to dispense, and we’re just here reactory dragging our thumbs
@David Law: We didn’t have a viable vaccine until 7th November, now we have 3 .Are you suggesting that they sit around strategically planner for something that didn’t exist.
@donny12345: March 2022 maybe
@Winston Smith:
@Winston Smith: :-)
@Winston Smith: The EU is responsible for procurement of vaccines for us.
We only got the news they in the last 3 weeks .
And I know for a fact nobody had a detailed plan, as they had nothing to plan for.
@donny12345: No, it shouldn’t.
There are nearly 8 billion people on the planet. No way that many will be made in the first year or two of availability.
Prioritise healthcare workers, then other frontline staff, then the elderly and the vulnerable who can get it, then the rest of us.
Someone like me, with few comorbidities should NOT be a candidate until at least late 2022 or 2023, because there are others in the world who need it more.
@Mirabelle Stonegate: We have ours secured and if we were to vaccinate everyone it would take only 10m doses.
You are correct in the roll out but we will a lot faster than end of 22 going into 23
@Mirabelle Stonegate: No chance it’ll be late 22/23 – zero people in the industry are suggesting it’ll take anywhere near that long. Late 2021 for population-wide rollout seems much closer to the mark.
@PaulOMahoney Irish: that’s exactly what I’m suggesting. We knew a vaccine would be developed eventually but even if we didn’t, we should have put the logistics in place to distribute it as quickly as possible once it was available.
@David Law: Did we know because my wife is involved and they didn’t know until a few hrs before.
EU bought on our behalf, they didn’t know either…….so you expect money to be spent on an unknown ………wow
@David Law:
Perhaps even an oven ready plan!
@PaulOMahoney Irish: German vaccination centres and mobile units are ready to vaccinate on the 15th of December. They have had trial runs (obviously without a vaccine) and all they are waiting for is the vaccine. Compare that with how well prepared Ireland is right now.
Obviously waiting to hear how the rest of Europe is planning to role out their program before our “task force” presents their plan to the government.
Terrible healthcare system.
@paulie G: Europe will be sending us our portion of the vaccine, how can we plan for something we didn’t know existed before 7 of November?
Do people like you think at all?
A vaccine for a casedemic!!!!
@Tadhg O’Mahony: blah blah blah
@Tadhg O’Mahony: you are very very smart, I expect your credible findings on my desk in the morning, or not
@Mark: chances of dying from this virus are minimal so why take a rushed vaccine? My very own thoughts! I don’t have to listen to any drummer, good or bad!
@Tadhg O’Mahony: chances of dying from a vaccine are even more minimal soooo
@Mark: You hope!
@Mark: Hope you’re getting overtime for this!
@Tadhg O’Mahony: who have you decided who’s paying me now? Is it Bill Gates? George Soros? The boogy man?
@Mark: You need help
I heard on the news that not everyone will be eligible for a vaccination until at least 2022, So does that mean Quantas and any other companies that follow suit are off limits to the young & Healthy who aren’t offered initial doses?
@David Lee: very possibly. If lots of countries request “vaccine passports” for entry they may if possible come up with a scheme whereby people not yet eligible for the vaccine can pay for it privately. Who knows.
Let’s hope all of these vaccines live up to their promise and are capable of helping create some form of relatively long lasting herd immunity. I’d hate to think it was a case of ‘herd today and gone tomorrow…’
@The Alchemist’s Head: A 90% effective vaccine requires 80% of the population to take it in order to achieve herd immunity, according to an Irish Times Article this morning. Big push required to get 80% on board
@JedBartlett: link please, that makes no sense.
@PaulOMahoney Irish: Makes complete sense. 95% effective vaccine taken by 80% of the population means 76% herd immunity. They estimate that 75% is the level at which herd might be achieved.
I read it in this mornings paper. Search for the link on their website yourself, I’m not here to work for you.
@JedBartlett: Totally different to your original post but what the hey.
@The Alchemist’s Head: yeah that’s the big thing now. How long will they protect for. But even if we have to get vaccinated every year initially it will give them more time to work on something more long-term. That’s my hope.
@PaulOMahoney Irish: Comprehension isn’t a strong point is it?
@The Alchemist’s Head: what the vaccine needs to do is stop the deaths in the most vunerable.
I’m not that confident the vaccine will directly.
It’s to stop the illness not the Virus.
The virus can still infect you I believe and others.
It’s not as far as I’m aware going to stop people getting the virus so I’d be under the impression that people will still dead from getting covid.
Maybe less and maybe it’s better than flu vaccine.
The rollout of the mass vaccinations will show how efficient it is.
@The Alchemist’s Head: I cant understand why they’re getting a vaccine that’s only 70% proof when others available are 95%. Getting anything from Oxford/England is going to be a nightmare anyway re Brexit and we all know of the old saying ‘Burn everything in England bar it’s coal’.
@JedBartlett: it probably won’t cause herd immunity. It wasn’t designed to. https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037
You’ve been conned
@Tadhg O’Mahony: Hilarious
@Tadhg O’Mahony: you’ve been conned by Gemma and the rubbish drummer from the Corrs
What are peoples views on uptake vaccine, I for one will not be taking it until it is trialled and tested like any other vaccine, especially after what happened with side effects of the swine flu vaccine
@Louise Lennon: Why what happened with the swine flu vaccine? Oink oink
@Derek Poutch: 100000 people developed narcolepsy from it. Side effect they didn’t know about until after it was given to mass amounts of the population
@Louise Lennon: it was around 1300 people and our government did know about it for 2 years and continued to pressure people to take it even after the drug company put out a warning. https://www.bmj.com/content/362/bmj.k3948
@Diana Muller: maybe them figures ste just in iteland
@Louise Lennon: around 100 in Ireland
@Louise Lennon: This is just another example of disinformation. Pandermix was/is a H1N1, non-FDA approved vaccine that had a minimum impact on those who received it – about three in every 100,000.
Although it’s unacceptable that any vaccine should be detrimental to those receiving it, it can happen.
Pfizer’s and Moderna’s vaccines are mRNA vaccines (which simply instruct the cells to produce the spike protein of the Covid-19) and in spite of what your first comment would lead some readers to believe, they have been ‘trialled and tested’ except in parallel processes, not sequential ones, which makes the whole thing move a lot faster. This was due primarily to the massive mounts of money pumped into finding a vaccine and the number of pharmas using their expertise in a unified push towards a common goal. Steps were not ‘skipped’.
Lipid nanoparticle systems are already used in other FDA approved drugs with no side effects.
You seem to comment just for commenting’s sake, without realised the damage you do. You also seem to belong to the category of people who believe the Earth is flat and that Hugo Chávez came back from the dead with a horde of communists to oust Trump from the White House.
Please research before posting.
@Brendan: well said
Be sure to wash all those hands before putting them on deck.
What’s in this vaccine to say it has to be stored at – 80.
Must have a hell of a good anti freeze in it.
70% not good enough imho… too much of a rush to get some cash back in..
@Geoff Bateman: the Oxford version of the vaccine is not for profit, its being done for free. Also there are some combinations of the two shots that offers much 90%. But even 70% is better than nothing
@Ger: ah ok
@Geoff Bateman: I read recently that most vaccines have a less than 20% effectiveness. If true, 70% is really good.
Also, personally, I believe 70% effectiveness far more than I believe 95% effectiveness. the 2 that are apparently 95% effective scream at me that they’re too good to be true.. and usually when something feels too good to be true, you’re as well to turn and run.
@Mirabelle Stonegate: sure it’s only a small study group.
40,000 people isn’t a million elderly and vunerable.
The real effectiveness is in stopping the deaths here and most vaccines fail directly in inducing a immune response in the most vunerable.
That’s where well how effective it is.
I think the hopes should be very tapering and more realistic to believe this will be another flu like vaccine and we’ll still need a strategy to live with the virus.
Pinning all hopes on a silver bullet is always doomed to fail.
So the US and UK will start administering vaccines between December 1st and December 12th.
We hope to have a strategy by December 11th.
That’s nice.
Which one are we getting?
Lol
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