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Wintry week ahead as frost, hail and temperatures as low as -3 degrees on the way

Winter is coming.

IT’S GOING TO be a cold week ahead with frost, hail and wintry conditions forecast.

Met Éireann has said rain and drizzle over the northern half of the country this morning will gradually move southwards, reaching southern areas in the early afternoon. 

Highest temperatures today will range between 9 and 11 degrees. 

Tonight, Munster and Connacht will be mostly cloudy with patchy drizzle, mist and fog and lowest temperatures of 5 to 9 degrees. Much of Leinster and Ulster will be dry with clear spells and some frost, with temperatures dropping as low as 0 degrees. 

It’s expected to be a cloudy day tomorrow, but weather will remain dry. 

Tomorrow night will see rain and drizzle moving eastwards across the country, with temperatures dropping as low as 4 degrees. 

The rain and drizzle is forecast to clear on Wednesday morning, with sunny spells and showers following. 

On Wednesday night, showers are forecast to continue and will extend further east, some heavy or of hail. Met Éireann has said frost may develop in sheltered areas. 

Looking ahead to Thursday, conditions will be cold, with sunshine and heavy showers, some of hail and possibly thundery. These will become increasingly wintry in the afternoon and evening. 

Thursday night is due to see wintry showers affect western coastal counties. Many areas will be dry with clear spells, but there will be a sharp frost with icy patches. 

Temperatures are forecast to drop as low as -3 degrees on Thursday night.

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    Mute Fluich It
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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:39 PM

    Have they just figured out that moving to a war zone and marrying into a culture where women are second class is a bad idea? Geniuses.

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    Mute Boo!-Fight the Board
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    Oct 13th 2014, 10:21 PM

    Tough sh*t girls.

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    Mute Donal Flynn
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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:34 PM

    Gobsh*tes

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    Mute Darryl Weathers
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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:41 PM

    It’s just another two young lives destroyed by Islam.

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    Mute TrueBluDub
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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:44 PM

    Only in America

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    Mute Dermot Lane
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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:46 PM

    They’re from Austria

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:48 PM

    @trublu. I hope you’re just mocking Darryl…

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:49 PM

    G’day mate!

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:40 PM

    Allasbabas

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:51 PM

    Let’s throw another shrimp on the barbie!

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    Mute Mary Kavanagh
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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:15 PM

    They’re AUSTRIAN!!!

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    Mute SilentFugitive
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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:42 PM

    Yes Mary, we get it. Strewth!!

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    Mute inproperganda
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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:06 PM

    your brain is controlled by the media lies if you are talking about destruction and all that

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    Mute Bevin Reilly
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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:15 PM

    True, we all make mistakes, but I wouldn’t exactly say it’s normal for two teenagers to run off and join a group of murderous lunatics. Also, how do we know they weren’t involved in some dubious activities themselves during time they’ve spent with this terror group?

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:38 PM

    Fish are friends not food. And probably a bit brighter as well.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:39 PM

    Croikey, it’s the wrong Pippa! Strewth mate…

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:51 PM

    Crikey

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:55 PM

    Bladdy fownitticks…

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    Mute Patrick
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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:00 PM

    Short change for the 500,000 people killed in Iraq alone by the west.

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    Mute Mary Kavanagh
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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:01 PM

    At least two people are either dyslexic or geographical challenged. Did I deafen you, Silent?

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    Mute Mary Kavanagh
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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:03 PM

    *geographically* Auto correct! Pft!

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    Mute Tom the Bomb
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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:04 PM

    Mary, you’ve obviously never seen Dumb and Dumber. Also, there’s a well known phrase, “Obvious troll is obvious”, but you’ve probably not encountered that either.

    As McBain would say: “That’s the joke!”

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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:26 PM

    Flamin Gullahs

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    Oct 13th 2014, 8:07 PM

    it’s there own fault pair of clowns.

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    Mute Jonathan Sheridan
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    Oct 13th 2014, 8:12 PM

    Austrian, not Australian

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    Mute Allan Farrell
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    Oct 13th 2014, 8:21 PM

    So if they moved next door you would be fine with it?

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    Oct 13th 2014, 8:24 PM

    Good riddance to bad rubbish

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    Mute Giselle Sievers
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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:00 PM

    The only person with brains here, phew!

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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:38 PM

    Darryl Weathers”destroyed by Islam” factually incorrect and a tad racist ?

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    Oct 14th 2014, 1:00 AM

    the age of reason is 12.

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    Oct 14th 2014, 2:41 AM

    Headless chickens

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    Oct 14th 2014, 7:20 AM

    Jonathan doesn’t get jokes

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    Oct 14th 2014, 9:48 AM

    Very young Gobsh*tes at that, they had no idea what they were letting themselves in for: 17 and 15 is very very young and they “ran away” so their families couldn’t even prevent them. I’m amazed that they managed to get so far: from Austria to Syria – MAD, the people luring these young girls into this kind of life and also making it possible for them to leave their homes should be found and the parents of these children should decide what to do with them, I know what I would do to them. These girls may not even be able to return to their families as they are now seen as ISIS sympathisers, they hadn’t a clue what they were letting themselves into. If I could rescue them I most certainly would.

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    Mute Suzanne Fitzgerald
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    Oct 14th 2014, 9:55 AM

    Bevin you might be on to something there: “how do we know they weren’t involved in some dubious activities themselves…” – why plant seeds and exaggerate the story, isn’t the story bad enough?

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    Mute Dan Smasheen
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    Oct 14th 2014, 1:15 PM

    Jihotties

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    Oct 16th 2014, 7:20 AM

    And the answer to the meaning of life is 42

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    Mute Daz Kelly
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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:46 PM

    If this is out in media now. What will happen to them over there. I’m sure their masters won’t be pleased? ??

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    Mute Fozz
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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:14 PM

    Possible punishment beatings up to stoning if they try leave…who knows.
    Women choosing to be Muslim is akin to turkeys wishing it was christmas every day.

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    Mute Mark Lillis
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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:22 PM

    Apostasy in Islam is punishable by death.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:39 PM

    Great analogy

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:56 PM

    living with the consequences

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    Mute inproperganda
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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:04 PM

    plenty of women in america join the savages of the USA army, they are experts at blowing peoples heads off

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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:15 PM

    Blithering loon

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    Oct 13th 2014, 10:32 PM

    Seriously you want to compare that? you must be kidding.. there is no parallel between the two realities.

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    Mute Inntalitarian
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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:35 PM

    Messed up on so many levels.

    I worked in schools in Austria and the Turkish and Bosnian kids are not well integrated at all.

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    Mute Scipio Africanus
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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:41 PM

    The biggest barrier to integration is Islam itself. It encourages segregation from the ‘Kuffir’.

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    Mute Bevin Reilly
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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:43 PM

    What stupid, stupid girls. I would imagine now having their story on multiple news sites, globally will not go down well with their new Husbands.

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    Mute Daddy De La Noche
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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:42 PM

    Maybe you should try and take an interest in parts of their culture and not try to make them feel like they have to leave every single thing behind, if you include some of their culture it will make them feel more welcomed, it’s simple, not hard to do, ask the kids to teach the class a few turkish words or phrases and Bosnian words and phrases, get the whole class interactive, take the initiative and they will feel more included which will help greatly.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:05 PM

    Your comment is ridiculous. It’s the type of wooly minded thinking that has caused the multicultural mess that pervades throughout much of Europe. There are second and third generation Turks living in Germany and Austria who have never visited Turkey and yet they struggle with the German language. Something that would be unthinkable with second and third generation children of Italian immigrants to the USA.
    It’s the insular nature of these communities that hold them back.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:10 PM

    You Worked !!!!! sensational…….

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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:54 PM

    Scipio, I completely agree.

    It’s not a mystery why the students of Serbian, Croatian and Slovenian descent managed to assimilate with the Austrian students.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:48 PM

    WTF? I don’t kill people, shower regularly, and perhaps most importantly don’t live in some arid sh!thole in a middle eastern war zone where one of my primary goals in life is to subjugate the entire female half of our species, and I can’t get a bird like that! Maybe it’s the black get up those ISIS boys are fond of that’s doing the trick – have Pennys any plans to launch a winter Jihadi chic collection I wonder.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:55 PM

    It validates the “treat ‘em mean and keep ‘em keen” maxim.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:58 PM

    You could dress up as one for Hallowe’en like I am.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:11 PM

    Are you talking about the 15 year old or the 17 year old …

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:14 PM

    Hard to believe you can’t get a woman Silent .you silver tongued devil you .

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:34 PM

    Silent , you do know they are the age of 18 ?? Unless that is you are only 17 yourself ..

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:35 PM

    Silent , you do know they are under the age of 18 ?? Unless that is you are only 17 yourself ..

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:37 PM

    Joan you do realise I’m only messing. I wouldn’t go so far as to call myself picky, but as rule I tend to avoid women with a desire to chop off my head (either of my heads, just to clarify).

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:53 PM

    Silent , fire away so , my apologies !

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    Oct 13th 2014, 8:55 PM

    Headless chickens!

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:40 PM

    The hypocrisy is hilarious, – Two jihadi ‘prostitutes’ wear burkas to protect their chastity…

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:45 PM

    Misyar and Mut’ah (Nikah): The Temporary Marriages allowed in Islam for pleasure and profit.
    In the West we call it by a different name…

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:59 PM

    so were not that different is what your saying

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:18 PM

    Don’t be stupid.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:06 PM

    There’s a saying Id stick to here. I’m sure they shouted death to the west ect ect when they were there. They made their bed let them lay in it. Ppl who go to Iss should automatically lose their citizenship.

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    Mute Jason Culligan
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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:37 PM

    Fallen, many people who go to ISIS do. Most countries treat travelling to fight with Jihadist´s who´s main goals include the destruction of all things other than radical sects of Islam as treason which can result in rejection of their citizenship up to life in prison depending on the country.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:48 PM

    Too many young people both male and female believing the lies of Isis. They won’t be able to go home once the reality of their situation sinks in. If they are old enough to travel and support isis then they are old enough to live with the consquences.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:57 PM

    I agree. They are not children. We might have been immature at 17 but children we were not.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:14 PM

    What about the 15 year old. If another 15 year old was groomed by a paedophile, tricked into leaving home, raped and then wanted to come home would say, well you were old enough to make your travel arrangements to the paedophiles residence so you can stay there…

    The 17 year old was also likely targeted and groomed before she reached 17 years. They are both victims of a particularly insidious paedophilic cult. Where is your sympathy… where is your outrage?

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:22 PM

    I am quite sympathetic to all young people who are tricked into going over there. The young males who have to kill and the young girls who have to “provide comfort “. The truth is though it’s all over the media what the world thinks of isis. Most know it’s a crime to go fight but they do anyway . If they come home it’s probably to a trial and imprisonment . To consquences. These young girls made bad choices . Many teenagers do its true but it’s not like there wasn’t enough information out there for them on Isis. I am unsure if they commited a crime or not by supporting even if they weren’t fighting themselves. Even if they could get home they are not likely to be accepted at all back into society . Perhaps bringing them home and having them work to prevent others leaving by given a dose of reality to other girls may be a good propaganda coup for the west . Either way we can’t have a situation where young male teenagers are imprisoned but young female teenagers are welcomed with open arms when they return.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:33 PM

    Young male teenagers shouldn’t be imprisoned either. They have similarly been groomed and abused. I would view them In a similar light to child soldiers in Africa. Victims. If they are disillusioned and genuinely remorseful they can be saved.

    I agreed wholeheartedly with your point about a “propaganda coup”. It would be very useful to have westerners who have survived the horrors this death cult inflicts upon its victims come home and prevent others from falling victim as well. Obviously security would be a concern and they would have to be assessed and receive psychiatric help.

    I just hate the unthinking attitude that so many have. Children and young people in our society are being targeted. We should stand up for them not abandon them.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:04 PM

    I would also say that I am far more worried about the muslim girls who are much younger than 15 or 17 being forced into these ” temporary marriages” or even permanent ones against their will and who are pregnant and have no where to turn to. The ones who never had a choice to begin with .

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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:18 PM

    Absolutely. The rape and abuse of childbrides is a massive problem and does not get near enough attention in our media.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:42 PM

    “It would be very useful to have westerners who have survived the horrors this death cult inflicts upon its victims come home and prevent others from falling victim as well. ”

    Patrick, that would achieve very little I feel. There’s already a wealth of information about ISIS and the horrible crimes they commit on a daily basis available on the internet.

    Your comparison of these and paedophilia victims is not a valid comparison ad paedophilia victims have not committed any crimes. Those who travel to fight for or actively support ISIS in other means are committing crimes.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 10:38 PM

    I feel it would be hugely helpful to have people who have actually gone out there return and tell story of what they witnessed, a first hand account of what actually goes on. A lot of the people who could potentially be recruited by IS might not take seriously reports that come from western news sources.

    Your last point about the comparison fails to grasp what I am driving at. These children and young people are being deluded into supporting IS. If they become disillusioned and want to return home to escape IS then locking them up when they return to punish them is illogical. You are punishing victims. Child soldiers are not punished if they are captured, they are rehabilitated because they are victims too.

    Forgetting IS for a moment, and indulge in a hypothetical situation, say a child was groomed by a paedophile and lured into his home. If the paedophile then set about deluding the child into committing horrible crimes. Would we want to punish the child if he/she finally became disillusioned and escaped to return home. I would hope we would not. Instead they are helped through counselling and are closely monitored to see if they can return to normal society.

    This is not to say that all those who went out there are to be welcomed back. If they return and are bent on doing us and our society harm then it is if course logical to imprison them.

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    Oct 14th 2014, 3:02 PM

    And it’s not just a Muslim problem. It’s a huge problem in India as well.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:05 PM

    Huge security risk letting them back in. I wouldn’t like to be them right now.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:40 PM

    Live by the sword die by the sword , ain’t a great idea now is it girls ! Running from air strikes with your camel loving fool of a husband or boyfriend ain’t as romantic as you thought? Tough shit ! You’re as bad as them ..

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:47 PM

    but are also basically children…..

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:14 PM

    The seventeen year olds is old enough to make decisions for herself but the 15 year old is not and parents were not responsible enough to stop her

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:35 PM

    Idiotic

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:43 PM

    How naive can someone be! Pair of absolute twits

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:48 PM

    About as naïve as children?

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:57 PM

    True, but they took it to a whole other level!!

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:55 PM

    Most children aren’t so naive as to join up with a horde of bloodthirsty, head chopping, genocidal maniacs. There’s being naive and then there’s being a monumental f*cking idiot.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:17 PM

    I did some dumb things as a teenager, despite what I tell my own kids.

    But for some reason, murder and war weren’t that appealing to me and my friends. Maybe we weren’t as cool as we thought.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 8:30 PM

    Scipio, you are sounding more and more like Cato. :)

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:36 PM

    Pair of wallys, hard to say they deserve it though

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:50 PM

    They deserve everything they get they are just as bad as the men fighting for ISIS on the frontline , as stated in the article they are willing to die for Allah ,just as bad as the next fighter .. They are a cog in the mechanism that is the Islamic state and no sympathy should be given to these women ! ..

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:58 PM

    Just as bad as the men fighting and doing the beheading? No Lee, no they’re not, not even close

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:03 PM

    How do we know the limitations of there involvement in the ISIS regime ? How do we know these women haven’t groomed more young naive women into joining this radical group ! These women may not be handling bombs and guns but there involvement in this war is just as horrific as the ones that do !

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:07 PM

    How do we know the limitations of their involvement?
    How do YOU know the extent of their involvement? Or do you follow the “behead now, ask questions later” approach?

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:09 PM

    What I do know is EVERY aspect of ISIS need to be wiped from the face of this earth!

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:24 PM

    Jaysus Lee, your radical fundamentalism on this topic buts jihad in the ha’penny place.

    You go girl!

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:22 PM

    They are not women they are girls

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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:09 PM

    And I would class the 15-year old as a very young girl. I’m sure it all seemed very romantic and rebellious back home in Austria. They’ve come down to earth with an almighty smash after seeing the reality for what it is, I’d say. I can’t really see them getting out of this in any good way. The fathers of their expected babies will hardly want to let them go back home now.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:17 PM

    Children Lee. They’re children.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:46 PM

    Children who took the idea that children make mistakes to a ridiculous new level. Sure some children make mistakes but running off to practically another continent to support a group who stands for intolerance and extreme violence can’t be counted as a simple ‘childish mistake’.

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    Oct 14th 2014, 2:41 PM

    Very romantic mary seeing savages behead people and praising them and joining them ready to die for them because how macho cutting someones head off is, you strike me as the kind who gets wrapped up in romanticism for savage causes yourself, for your own personal seflishness, never thinking about the long term affects on others.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:40 PM

    And the worst thing is now they’ve passed on their stupid genes to those growing inside them! There should be stupid traps for people like this, get them out of the human gene pool

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:51 PM

    A lot of hate on the journal. At 15 and 17, they’re still children and they were most likely targeted and groomed by these terrorists over a period of months or years. Other children/teens get targeted and groomed by sicko’s, what’s the difference here?

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:57 PM

    They ll come back and sell there story to a newspaper . The media will be all over them . They ll become celebrities and make a fortune .

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:09 PM

    The only positive thing about this story is that the grooming and brain washing is reversible. I hope.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:46 PM

    the amount of people brainwashed by this piece of west brit propaganda by the journal is incredible

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:06 PM

    It’s not as simple as just “coming back”. Defection from ISIS is punishable by death. These girls have put themselves in a very dangerous situation, it doesn’t bode well for them…

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:57 PM

    Inproperganda you sound pretty brain washed and bigoted yourself .

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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:51 PM

    They won’t be allowed to come back, their Austrian citizenship has basically been revoked due to their act of treason and the danger their warped ideology could possibly do to Austrian society.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:58 PM

    ” Islamic State jihadists have given detailed theological reasons justifying why they have taken thousands of women from the Iraqi Yazidi minority and sold them into sex slavery.

    A new article in the Islamic State English-language online magazine Dabiq not only admits the practice but justifies it according to the theological rulings of early Islam. ”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11158797/Thousands-of-Yazidi-women-sold-as-sex-slaves-for-theological-reasons-says-Isil.html

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:47 PM

    This is Islams greatest trick… A religion of peace. To common sense people, known as hell.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:48 PM

    bigoted scouser

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:56 PM

    Well, make a comment instead of your typical one line waffle at others comments……

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:02 PM

    only one line in your comment… bigoted bile, you should join UKIP or the BNP, they love your sort

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:09 PM

    Ok, I’m with you, I submit to your will, allow mass murdering terrorists freely into Ireland. Let them build mosques to breed hatred of anything not Islamic.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:11 PM

    they are allowed already down at Shannon airport

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:12 PM

    don’t see you complaining about the chuches in Ireland, do you want rid of them too?

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:25 PM

    No, even those churches should go, they are full of people plotting atrocities, and they fooled many into thinking they are just old folk praying to god with lil children.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:38 PM

    Ban the premiership so, no plotters in English football grounds then?

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:45 PM

    Yes, ban them too, they are plotting drinks in a pub, and will behead anyone who does not agree with that. You see the difference? If you want to go after the big guy, fine, the US and others messed things up, but at least you can voice your opinion, so can women, they can even drive cars, go for drinks and so on. Allow these people freedoms here, they will bring hell with them, not adapt to the freedoms allowed to then in the west. I am done here, the Journal has become infested with conspiracy nuts, unable to face the world.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:53 PM

    your another brick in the wall…. best of luck breaking free

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    Oct 13th 2014, 8:53 PM

    It’s not a religion, it’s a cult with dubious methods of brainwashing

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    Oct 13th 2014, 11:00 PM

    so its the same as any other religion so

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    Nov 14th 2014, 12:46 PM

    Peace ? Religion of peace?…cant see that

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:54 PM

    I can’t see this ending too well for those young lassies, even though they desire to return home to Austria it would appear that it would be impossible to do so now as the Austrian authorities will not permit ISIS sympathisers to return.

    Sometimes buying into a romanticised ideology (as they saw it) can be very detrimental to your health.

    Also ISIS will more than likely make an example of them, and I don’t mean that in a good way.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:37 PM

    As I said the other day they are booked into the Coombe .

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:07 PM

    These are children..

    Children who have been lied to and brainwashed, abused, raped and now their lives are very much in danger. A little bloody sympathy would not go amiss.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:05 PM

    Yep, exactly, and their possible babies who are completely innocent and don’t deserve this either.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:52 PM

    Leave them there to burn with the rest of those imbeciles. If the bleeding heart brigade get their way and they must be brought back, then the pregnancies should be destroyed. There is no place in the world for these cretinous IS genes to multiply.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 3:56 PM

    Yeah, let’s prove how enlightened we are by aborting the children of those we don’t like.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:04 PM

    Eugenics, is it?
    We could take some advice from Sweden and Germany about their experiences of this but I expect they might not like being reminded of it.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:11 PM

    Munster, would you be in favour of annihilating all men women, children and babies in anyway related to “this group”?

    That’s a familiar sort of barbarism isn’t it?

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:36 PM

    I absolutely would be in favor of that gagsy. They think nothing of murdering men, women, children and their whole ideology revolves around murdering anybody that is not part of their twisted world view.

    These are psychopaths and pass their traits and idealogy on to their women and children. Everybody involved with them should be annihilated, burned off the earth. That includes their children as they are just another generation of these sickos waiting in the wings.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:48 PM

    there is no place in the world for your sort of knucledragger either

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:52 PM

    Munster2014 so you want to become them to eradicate them ?

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:55 PM

    he should wrap himself up in the Union Jack and go over and fight them himself

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:02 PM

    I’m with you but if we’re going to do this we should do it properly.
    We should launch a campaign to eradicate the entire population of present day Mongolia – they’re probably mostly descended from Genghis Khan and he was an awful man for the indiscriminate murdering.
    Then we should have a look at Germany as we definitely have to wipe out a fair chunk of their population.
    How far are we going with this in terms of presuming shared traits – obviously the children (born and unborn) are gonners and the siblings have to go too. What about cousins though? I have some cousins that look a but like me so I think we have to obliterate at least first cousins and build a case against any second cousins that look in any way shady.
    Utopia here we come!

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:07 PM

    the USA created Isis ya silly fool

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:22 PM

    Surely it would be in the girls best interests to keep their plans of going back home secret,not showing up on news sites all over the world .can only see this ending badly for them if they genuinely want to leave unless they have more sinister reasons for wanting to go back home

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:40 PM

    Durka durka, I want me mam and dad.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:31 PM

    As my mother would say you made your bed now lay in it
    Two gobsh**es

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:55 PM

    Well, well. Not like an Austrian to think its wise to plunge headlong into a war. Oh wait………..I seem to recall there was one……..

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    Oct 14th 2014, 12:04 PM

    too soon Tony, too soon……

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:21 PM

    yeah let them home with two little time-bombs in their bellies

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:27 PM

    So you’re firmly of the Nature over Nurture view

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:09 PM

    God willing…

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:25 PM

    A lot of people are making fun out of the situation of these two girls. These girls are victims of a very targeted campaign by IS militants. At 15 and 17 they made a huge mistake and will likely spend the rest of their days being tortured, prostituted and as a vessel for these evil evil people. I don’t blame them I blame the clerics and people on social media that compel young people to go there and join these beasts.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:39 PM

    its just using girls as a war propaganda tool by the media, non story

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:01 PM

    It’s not a non story. These are two girls that clearly have been exposed to extremism which proves it isn’t just young men going abroad. They are being treated like things and your response treats them like things. People are not things.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:12 PM

    I didn’t hear so many of these stories when Isis were overthrowning Gadaffi in Libya, how are the Christians women getting on in Syria after being slaughtered by the U.S backed jihadists free Syrian army, I didn’t see the protectors of freedom and liberty goin in to save the Christians there being slaughtered by the jihadists, why is that then eh?

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:41 PM

    Blame the US…………..how quaint and new. Yawn. Next it will be Israel’s fault that young people via influential clerics feeding young people the poison of Sharia and forcing them to go abroad to warzones.

    Conspiracy. It’s all conspiracy with nuts like you.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:16 PM

    IT’S A TRAP!

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:04 PM

    Jerry Springer!!!!!!! Will you get out of bed, we’ve a good one for you….

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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:23 PM

    Sad situation for all involved,two more young lives wasted to Islamic state TERRORISTS! 15&17 very impressionable ages,I’m sure we’ve all done things at them ages that we wouldn’t dare repeat. Although this is quite extreme! Pains me to say it but an example has to be set somewhere,who’s to say there not part of a larger plot to cause a major massacre on there return to Austria? Poster girls are exactly what they are,poster girls to send a message to every other impressionable/disillusioned girl/boy/woman/man that if you join a terrorist organisation you’ve made your bed now you have to lie in it!

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:06 PM

    I can’t believe how little compassion some people have. They’re practically children. I feel really sorry for them. :(

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:16 PM

    I feel sorry for them too, but that doesn’t for a second make them any less a pair of tools.

    Do we really have to follow “don’t take sweets from strangers” with “don’t run away to a war zone to marry jihadists”?

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:47 PM

    Do you have any understanding of how these cults operate. They use targeted grooming campaigns to brainwash vulnerable young people.

    The key word there is vulnerable. Calling them “tools” is dangerously simplistic. You should save your contempt for those who helped groom these children.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:54 PM

    I mean just look at the note they left.

    They are going to serve Allah and are willing to die for him…

    Does that sound like they were mentally competent. Desiring martyrdom does not seem like something a mentally sound young girl would just decide to do. It sounds to me like they were the victims of grooming.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:59 PM

    I would be questioning the local cleric or preacher and investigating why this happened and how. Let’s face it it’s 2014 if it was any other religious group the authorities would be in checking out the evidence.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:16 PM

    Patrick , to be a Muslim you must be a slave to Allah , it’s almost certain they were encouraged / recruited by someone , but let’s be honest they chose to go and let’s not be naive they knew what they were getting into , no doubt they got the Jihadi story but there was enough in the media about beheadings , mass rapes and slaughter in the name of Allah to dissuade anyone about going to such a place and for the reasons they chose , die for Allah !!

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:27 PM

    If they really knew what it would be like then I really doubt anyone in their right mind would go.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:32 PM

    I don’t know if you have seen some of the propaganda put out by groups like these but it can be damn effective as evidenced by the huge numbers of westerners who leave lives of relative comfort to join them.

    There are even commenters on here who say that western media spreads lies about IS, that the killings and rapes are made up, that IS are the defenders of the true followers of Allah, that it is all the fault of the west. This an insidious narrative that is targeted at vulnerable young people.

    It is very possible that these vulnerable children were subjected to these lies and that they were not capable of making a rational decision. Now that they have become disillusioned they should not be abandoned to their fate.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:22 PM

    They may have believed that the reports in the media are propaganda. It looks there are some quite grown – up people on this thread who seem to believe the same.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:23 PM

    It’s not our media. It’s local clerics I almost guarantee with links to others radicals in the middle east. The really sad and angering thing is young people in this part of the world are being tainted by their poison.

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    Oct 14th 2014, 11:23 AM

    Agreed Ciara. I think it goes without saying that that they were very naive/”stupid” (people can phrase it however they want) to do this, but you’d hope that people would have a bit more empathy given they are still kids really.

    Though maybe no journal commenters ever did something stupid when they were 15.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:50 PM

    Silly eejits

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:02 PM

    Wow, that escalated quickly.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:33 PM

    This can only end badly . If these kids are in reach of there “husbands” then next step would be suicide belts and be sent in to clear an area . Those chaps had there fun and would’nt have an ounce of respect for females let alone two kids like this. It’s now dawned on them that the way of life and lack of respect for them and being in a war zone with minimal food and security is not the way to go . They have been used and likely will be used to further jihad . They need to stay in Syria , have the kids , hand them over and try to get home immediately after . If they are caught then they will be destroyed and put in the ground end of story . Let this be a warning to any young person out the looking for the “dream life” serving jihad . If they do make it home then they will be pillared by the community and may be better if they don’t come back . My sympathies with the parents it must be really tough.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:38 PM

    It’s one way of getting baby terrorists into Austria. ..

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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:45 PM

    Having a crISIS of conscience it seems.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:35 PM

    Ha ha , stupid women … They’re married now so they will never be able to return home . Ah well !!

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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:31 PM

    Leave them there…

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    Oct 13th 2014, 10:07 PM

    When I grew up gangster was sexy, now it jihadi that’s the sexy bad boy all the good looking brainless ones want, some things never change!!

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    Oct 13th 2014, 11:15 PM

    Dumb b1tches.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:09 PM

    They need the ‘Terminator’.

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    Mute Barry Ryan
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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:33 PM

    Hahahaha nothing can beat the stupidity of a teenage girl who thinks she’s in love Hahaha

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    Mute Joan Murphy
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    Oct 13th 2014, 8:15 PM

    Barry , I don’t know why you would think that is funny

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    Mute Pól Mag Shamhrain
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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:25 PM

    Imagine your sister or friend going off to support the fighters in Iraq. It’s not really a funny image is it? Grow up.

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    Mute mitch connors
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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:33 PM

    Young , dumb & stupid !!

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    Mute Mick Madden
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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:53 PM

    What a waste

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    Mute Rory McGuirk
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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:30 PM

    so when did ISIS acquire snukes??

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    Mute KeiKe
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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:49 PM

    Here’s what captured non Muslim women and children face when ISIS get their hands on them.
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c5f_1408138112

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    Mute Maurice Dancer
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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:56 PM

    Two silly idiots.

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    Mute Sakura
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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:09 PM

    Why…?

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    Mute Pól Mag Shamhrain
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    Oct 13th 2014, 5:30 PM

    Agree, I really don’t know why any young woman would go over to Syria to join these groups. The men are the smelliest, dirtiest, most evil looking creatures that walk the face of the earth. I would be investigating how and why and definitely “who” in their community compelled them to go over there.

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    Mute inproperganda
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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:49 PM

    brain dead bigots spewing out their religious bile and hatred

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    Oct 13th 2014, 10:55 PM

    Let the idiots stay there and die in there hellfire.

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    Mute Dwayne Jordan
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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:19 PM

    Idiots

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    Mute inproperganda
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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:40 PM

    plenty of young women recruited into the US army terrorists and sent out to commit acts of savagery,leave them there too?

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    Mute Labhaoise Ní Bháille
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    Oct 13th 2014, 4:12 PM

    Well said patrick

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    Mute Stephen Boland
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    Oct 14th 2014, 4:06 AM

    Surely your name should be, “Improperganda” “m” rather than “n” seems you were asleep on that one.

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    Mute inproperganda
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    Oct 14th 2014, 7:24 AM

    surely you should be called Stephen Sheep

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    Mute Henry Gondorff DKR
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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:06 PM

    Munster 2014, the usa k illed women and children indiscriminately too. 300k plus by Conservative estimates. In iraq alone. Way more than Isis. I used to be like you then. ..I woke up. Isis and the us military are part of the same thing- I know that’s hard to fathom through the narrative that corporate media wash over is every day but sadly its the truth.

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    Mute Jason Culligan
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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:58 PM

    “300k plus by Conservative estimates.”

    All actually verified accounts put the death toll in Iraq at 130-170,000. This includes Iraqi soldiers, Coalition soldiers, insurgents and civilians. Any account over that number only looks at the total number during the period who died of anything including a bad fall or cancer or were based of the ridiculously inaccurate method of phone surveys.

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    Mute Joseph Montillo
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    Oct 15th 2014, 9:33 PM

    Easily the least cared about thing to me in my world. Stupid bitches decide to be stupid. Good riddance to garbage.

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    Mute Evan Quiglewski
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    Oct 15th 2014, 3:29 PM

    Both their names are south Slavic sounding. Are the girls of Bosnian descent? Just curious as to whether their converts or Muslim-born?

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    Mute inproperganda
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    Oct 14th 2014, 7:34 AM

    Irish coming on here and supporting the American Empire , you just couldn’t make it up on here

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    Mute inproperganda
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    Oct 13th 2014, 6:43 PM

    the knuclkedragging west still bombing the shit out of the Middle East, over a hundred years these criminals have been ding in their fithy quest for oil conquer, and people are wondering why some of them are fighting back

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    Mute Munster2014
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    Oct 13th 2014, 8:27 PM

    Why don’t you p*** off and join them so you clown? You seem to hate the west and have a big amount of sympathy for these barbaric cretins. F*** off over there if you’re so concerned and see how you get on.

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    Mute Catherine Sims
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    Oct 13th 2014, 8:55 PM

    Hmmm pretty fine line your walking there . Are you supporting this jihad ? Are you preaching jihad ? You certainly are inciting hatred against the west .

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    Mute inproperganda
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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:51 PM

    im not supporting any Jihad, who supported the jihad in Libya overthrowing Gadaffi. these were good head hackers because they were fighting the USA enemy, or the USA sponsored Free Syrian Army head hacking Jihadists trying to overthrow Assas, or ‘but they are rebels’ says the media 900 bases in 153 countries,
    yis are all slaves to the American empire

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    Oct 13th 2014, 10:52 PM

    inciting hatred , let the USA and Brits bomb the shit out of the middle east, how long have they being doing it now along with those Israelis terrorists and their head hacking of palestinians, where is the help country of liberty and freedom the good old USA in that situation, same old lies to wage war for oil, WMDs al queada Isis,
    and another thing Catherine I can walk on whatever line I want because its none of your business

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    Mute Munster2014
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    Oct 13th 2014, 11:45 PM

    Use a phone? Stop immediately because it probably contains parts manufactured in Israel.
    Watch TV shows? Better stop that too because most of them are produced in the Us.

    You’re views on the wored are absolutely pathetic, like some angsty teen who won’t shut the f*** up with his hipster wan*** “Murica” nonsense. I can only imagine how horrible life must be for you that you can’t live in a cave over there singing kumbayah with those dark ages cretins.

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    Oct 14th 2014, 12:28 AM

    Inproperganda you make everyone else’s comments your business but are unwilling to have the same done to you ? Hmmmm. I see you enjoy the freedom of free speech . Nice isnt It? Not something your friends or brothers in the Middle East like to encourage though us it? I think your total blindness to your own brain washing hatred and your total intolerance of any one else view point is the saddest part about you. So let me say it for everyone on here that you have called names tonight . Their views are none of your business either so feel free to shut up and when you do I will happily shut up about your views. I also love the way that certain groups love using terms like racist bigotry inciting hatred but hate it when the terms are turned on them . but ya know if the cap fits ………..

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    Oct 14th 2014, 7:06 AM

    I don’t have friends or brothers in the middle east, making it up as you go along Catherine. you are conditioned to believe what the media tells you because you cant think for yourself and allow the media to control your thoughts, were was the outcry on here when the jihadist nutjobs were headhacking their way thru Libya, where were all these little stories then,answer that one Catherine before you go back to your feckin wine bottle and continue to support the American Empire

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    Oct 14th 2014, 7:10 AM

    you are just media puppet munster, a sheep being led along the media a propaganda supporting the American empire,id say you were a big fan the British empire also judging by your comments

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    Oct 14th 2014, 7:53 AM

    There’s no point arguing against inproperganda, after all you can’t argue with immaturity or insanity. People like him have a need to complain about all things American while happily using everything the US has provided the world.

    They happily use the internet to spew their venom at anyone who disagrees with them without caring about the fact that the internet wouldn’t exist were it not for NATO projects in the 1970′s. They happily use phones developed by American firms or those with components from the US/Israel to vent about how evil the US/Israel are. They use the free speech which the US ensured existed in western Europe to complain.

    Then the best part is they accuse us of being led by a pro-American media when the media is actually quite anti-American (just not enough for them). Anyone else notice how there’s been dozens of articles about the US’ involvement in Syria alone yet deploying 3,000 soldiers to help tackle Ebola only got one article?

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    Oct 14th 2014, 2:47 PM

    who controls America inprop? is it the American banks, and their pals of the chosen tribe in the senate and administration, all wars for israel and chosen one interests, because it sure isn’t the American people who are benefitting from their policies

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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:17 PM

    Alah akbar

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    Mute inproperganda
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    Oct 13th 2014, 7:47 PM

    I think I will say ‘Allah Akbar’ from now on instead of of ‘Jaysus’, see how many bigots I can wind up
    tiocfaidh Allah..!

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    Mute Pól Mag Shamhrain
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    Oct 13th 2014, 9:23 PM

    My god you really are the embodiment of the word thick.

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    Oct 13th 2014, 11:02 PM

    says the brainwashed one

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