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Government voting against motion to pay student nurses described as 'betrayal'

The Solidarity-People Before Profit (PBP) motion was defeated by 77 votes to 72.

THE GOVERNMENT VOTING against a motion to pay student nurses and midwives has been described as “cold-hearted” and a “betrayal” that won’t be forgotten.

The Solidarity-People Before Profit (PBP) motion was defeated by 77 votes to 72.

Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and the Green Party all voted against the motion, while opposition parties and groups supported it.

The motion called for the immediate reinstatement of the payment of student nurses and midwives who are in placements during the Covid-19 pandemic, among other measures.

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A similar motion was defeated in a vote earlier this year.

People Before Profit TD Richard Boyd Barrett said the coalition voting against the motion was “cold-hearted and a detriment to the integrity of public health in this country, especially in the light of Covid-19″.

“Politicians of all persuasions in the Dáil clapped and saluted these frontline workers who have been battling this crisis and keeping us all safe, and yet when the rubber hits the road, they would deny these workers a very basic scheme of remuneration and respect.

“The student nurses stood up when they were called on to protect the people of this country and now the government slaps them down.”

Speaking earlier, ahead of the vote in the Dáil, Boyd Barrett was among those to criticise the fact Health Minister Stephen Donnelly was not present during the debate.

“I do not say it lightly, but the absence of the Minister for Health, Deputy Stephen Donnelly, from the Chamber during a debate about thousands of student nurses and midwives who have protected us all, put themselves in harm’s way and fought on the front line during this pandemic is nothing short of an insult.”

People Before Profit TD Bríd Smith yesterday said she looked back at the coverage of the strike last year by the Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation, and saw an “abundance of photographs of smiling Fianna Fáil and Green Party candidates pledging their support to the nurses’ cause”.

“This betrayal of the next generation will not be forgotten or forgiven by these workers or their families.”

Government response

A review of student nurses’ allowance is under way and will be available in September 2021, Tánaiste Leo Varadkar told the Dáil.

Varadkar was pressed on the issue during Leaders’ Questions by Sinn Fein’s Pearse Doherty, who said those working on the front line and in Covid wards deserved to be paid.

The Tánaiste responded: “The matter is being considered. A full review of student allowances is under way. It should be ready in September 2021.”

Doherty said student nurses and midwives “have stepped up and stepped into the breach” and provided excellent care in difficult circumstances.

Student nurses want to be paid when they go to the frontline “and put themselves and their families at risk”. He said the Irish public can’t understand why government voted against pay for student nurses “when they stepped up”.

Health Minister Stephen Donnelly confirmed today that student nurses who had to give up part-time work due to the risks associated with Covid will be eligible for PUP payments. This will be backdated to the time they left their jobs.

‘Being exploited’

Speaking in the Dáil yesterday, Minister of State at the Department of Health Mary Butler said: “All nursing and midwifery students, from first year to fourth year, have returned to full-time student capacity since the end of September.

“The final year interns will commence their 36-week clinical placements in accordance with the agreed pay and conditions of those placements. These students have agreed learning objectives to ensure that the final stages of learning remain supervised and supported.”

Butler said that while Covid-19 “remains a presence affecting all health services, so much more is known about the virus now than was known at the beginning of its first surge”.

“This is clear in the number of Covid-19-positive patients who currently require acute hospital care. All healthcare workers have access to PPE. While Covid-19 remains a serious threat, the situation now is not as it was in March. This has affected the management and deployment of healthcare workers.”

Butler stated that Covid-19 “has an impact on how we all do our work, but this is particularly true of our student nurses and midwives and all our healthcare workers”. She said “engagement” between health sector management, workers and their representatives “will assist in addressing concerns as they emerge”.

“I again commend the student nurses and midwives on the role they provided when the pandemic struck the State. The way in which all of us live our lives has changed. The pandemic has shown the importance of supporting the work to protect our student nurses and midwives and their graduate education,” Butler added.

In a statement released in October, the INMO said student nurses and midwives were “being exploited” during the pandemic.

“Students on placements in hospitals across Ireland are facing additional Covid risks and are effectively being asked to work as staff for no pay.

“Many have also faced income loss, as they are no longer able to work part time as care assistants while studying, due to the infection risk of working in a care home while also on placement in a hospital.

“Before their final year internship, most student nurses and midwives get either nothing or an allowance of just €50.79 per week.”

With reporting by Christina Finn

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    Mar 27th 2012, 7:34 AM

    Poor, poor people. Given LSD with no prior knowledge or experience, must have been like a horror movie.

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    Mar 27th 2012, 10:15 PM

    must have been fucking savage!!

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    Mar 27th 2012, 8:21 AM

    The Irish government used to put it in breakfast rolls and red bull from 2004-2008

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    Mar 27th 2012, 8:34 AM

    Apparently they used to hand it out to those attending tribunals, it helped their abstract creative juices to flow

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    Mar 27th 2012, 7:26 AM

    LSD is a safe drug unlike cocaine or heroin. It’s actually safer than alcohol or ciggerettes. There is a bbc YouTube documentary about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRgb5coMXGk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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    Mar 27th 2012, 7:33 AM

    You’ve never had a bad trip!

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    Mar 27th 2012, 8:15 AM

    It seems that surprise-LSD is a different beast altogether….

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    Mar 27th 2012, 8:49 AM

    If you want to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes read Tranceformation of America by Cathy O Brien. This is only the tip of the iceberg and will be NOTHING compared to the documents that will never see the light of day or the ones that will be unclassified in the future.

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    Mar 27th 2012, 9:22 AM

    Hallucinogens can be succesfully used to treat depression. They are now finding that Ecstasy, in a controlled setting, is the only successful treatment for US veterans returning to the states from Iraq who are suffering from PTSD brought on by the trauma- to everyone- by war. There was a conference in San Francisco last year on the subject of hallucinogens as psychological treatment. This article is reminiscent of the extreme portrayal of pot in the 1950′s movie called Reefer Madness. God knows the CIA wouldn’t want us all to get our hands on LSD because it can lead to the realisation that authority is a rediculous farce. There is a psychiatrist in Ireland now promoting putting lithium in the drinking water to address depression (that’d be illegal medication without consent) but if that extreme thought is being entertained–maybe acid would be a better additive. Of course I’m joking :-)

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    Mar 27th 2012, 11:20 AM

    I think LSD should me mandatory on your 18th birthday.

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    Mar 27th 2012, 12:04 PM

    The use of MDMA has been well known for a long time in treating PTSD & emotional issues.

    EVERYBODY should try a trip, even a half a trip just once.

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    Mar 27th 2012, 3:21 PM

    @ Paul, certain tribes such as the Bwiti tribe in Cameroon use hallucinogens (or in this case as it is deemed sacred, an entheogen) such as Iboga as a rite of passage into adulthood. The experience is supposed to encourage empathy and compassion by inducing a sort of “life review” where the person experiences their life from the point of view of those around them.

    There was a show ages ago on BBC called “Tribe” where the film maker went to stay with them and did the Iboga ceremony, it’s worth a look if you can track it down..

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    Mar 27th 2012, 10:19 PM

    to be honest, I’d bet heavily that the flouride in water is the source of a lot of the nation’s depression and subservience!
    An irony about MDMA (ecstacy to all y’all), is that it was given/tested on US soldiers in Korea and Vietnam in the name of trying to achieve the perfect soldier…. one without fear and without a need for sleep.
    ReeferMadness was complete right-wing propoganda, same as the news coverage of the same topics still remains today!

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    Mar 27th 2012, 8:34 AM

    Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds :D

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    Mar 27th 2012, 9:07 AM

    sounds like something out of fringe… was it doctor bishop running the experiments??

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    Mar 27th 2012, 7:35 AM

    Bet Dr Olsens family doesn’t think that!!

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    Mar 27th 2012, 1:21 PM

    Why is it that people are willing to believe this but won’t believe the FBI report that said there were no phone calls from the 911 passengers because It wasn’t technically possible. The only evidence of box cutters come from a call that the FBI say didn’t happen..

    Olson’s Story Contradicted by the FBI

    The most serious official contradiction of Ted Olson’s story came in 2006 at the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker. The evidence presented to this trial by the FBI included a report on phone calls from all four 9/11 flights. In its report on American Flight 77, the FBI report attributed only one call to Barbara Olson and it was an “unconnected call,” which (of course) lasted “0 seconds.” According to the FBI, therefore, Ted Olson did not receive a single call from his wife using either a cell phone or an onboard phone.

    Back on 9/11, the FBI itself had interviewed Olson. A report of that interview indicates that Olson told the FBI agents that his wife had called him twice from Flight 77. 10 And yet the FBI’s report on calls from Flight 77, presented in 2006, indicated that no such calls occurred.

    This was an amazing development: The FBI is part of the Department of Justice, and yet its report undermined the well-publicized claim of the DOJ’s former solicitor general that he had received two calls from his wife on 9/11. – globalresearch

    Food for thought…

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    Mar 27th 2012, 7:53 AM

    Now it’s lariam….. But what’s more frightening….. It’s prescribed

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    Mar 27th 2012, 10:22 AM

    This has been known for some time hasn’t it?

    I’ve been reading about this for the last near five years alone with documentation available then along with details via a dad that sued the USA government over the effects it had on his son.

    Crazy stuff that I suspect we only know 5% at most, what the hell they were – are? – doing!

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    Mar 27th 2012, 9:32 AM

    Here’s a good link about CIA experiments in France were 7 people died as a result.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7415082/French-bread-spiked-with-LSD-in-CIA-experiment.html

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    Mar 27th 2012, 8:47 PM

    The Dr. Olsen mentioned was a member of Gottleib’s team who was apparently going to blow the whistle according to Jon Ronson’s ‘The Men Who Stared At Goats’ (which later became an incredibly shit film).

    Olsen’s death is also the source of the myth that LSD, Mushrooms and other hallucinogenics make you believe you can fly.

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    Mar 27th 2012, 1:42 PM

    This 1974 “Family Jewels Report” deals mainly with domestic CIA abuses but some of the documents are staggering http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB222/index.htm

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