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Teachers Union of Ireland will be 'strongly' advising its members to reject new public pay deal

Public Expenditure Minister Michael McGrath published the details of the public pay deal today.

THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE of the Teachers Union of Ireland (TUI) has recommended to its almost 20,000 members that it shouldn’t accept the Government’s proposed new public-service agreement.

This is the first public service agreement that has offered pay increases in over ten years.

Minister for Public Expenditure Michael McGrath published the details of the draft deal this afternoon. The proposed agreement will cost €906m over three budgetary years.

The TUI said that when its 21-member executive decided that they would be “strongly advocating” that its members reject the proposals, it recognised the severe financial difficulties caused by the pandemic to so many working people.

However, ten years on from the imposition of cuts to ‘new entrant’ pay, the Union could not recommend acceptance of proposals that would continue to see our colleagues paid lesser rates of pay for carrying out identical work.

The union said there is a “recruitment and retention crisis” among secondary-school teachers due to this pay inequality.

A survey carried out in over 130 secondary schools earlier this year showing that in the past 12 months, 77% of these schools had advertised positions to which nobody applied.

TUI President Martin Marjoram said:

Regrettably, the limited measures contained in this proposed agreement will not end the ongoing scandal of pay discrimination for second level teachers employed on or after 1 January 2011 and the proposed agreement does not address it at all for the other recruitment grades in which TUI represents members.

“Even with this proposed agreement, the largest pay discrimination would still occur in the early years of employment. New entrants to second level teaching would still earn €6,500, or 15%, less upon appointment than someone who entered the profession prior to 2011.

“The loss in career earnings would still be over €80,000,” he said.

Over 19,000 TUI members will be balloted on the proposals in the New Year.

‘Affordable pay adjustments’

Cabinet approved the draft public pay deal today. Minister McGrath noted that the terms of the proposed public pay deal were the outcome of “a difficult and complex negotiation process” with Department officials, the Workplace Relations Commission, and unions.

This Agreement acknowledges this contribution and provides for affordable pay adjustments weighted toward those on lower incomes.

“Significantly, from the Exchequer perspective, these pay adjustments are phased with implementation commencing later in 2021.”

The Minister concluded: “As public servants engage in ballots in the coming weeks on whether to accept these proposals, I hope they will consider all of these elements, which offer security and reward for their continued commitment to serving our citizens.”

The public service agreement is called ’Building Momentum: A New Public Service Agreement 2021-2022′ .

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    Mute Micheal OLainn
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    Dec 22nd 2016, 8:14 PM

    Apollo House is a short term solution and a longer term solution is required.

    Apollo House has re-ignited outrage over homelessness.

    Others will fill the vacancies.

    If you can afford to donate, here is the online link.

    https://www.gofundme.com/home-sweet-home-ireland

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 10:10 PM

    @Scarlett Milton: There would be no stunts needed if the government took its sworn duty to look after ALL the citizens of the country in a serious manner. It was FG who brought the eviction bill before the Dail and backed it up with the Courts (2016) Bill. This along with its neo-liberal love for market economics, that makes a commodity for profit out of all human need, is what caused the homeless epidemic.
    Brendan Ogle, is a first rate organiser, a leader, who can bring people together in common cause. He has used his energies to do something positive to help and highlight the homeless epidemic in the country. Dame Enda, has done diddly squat, nothing, except to legislate to make the problem worse.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 9:01 PM

    Government are in hiding.shame on them.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 9:17 PM

    @@mdmak33: They haven’t really hidden. Their agencies have taken up the fight against Apollo Hse and the organisers.
    Apollo Hse and the organisers are not on the list of approved charities, they don’t depend on government funding, the approved charities do.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 10:31 PM

    @@mdmak33:was just thinking that my sled not a word from any of them . Especially independents where are u all gone

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 11:18 PM

    @John Scott: the politicians are certainly running scared on this one.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 10:07 PM

    @Scarlett Milton: Home Sweet Home and Apollo House is primarily about generating a critical mass of awareness of and motivation to address the homeless crisis.

    This is about issues and not about personalities.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 10:55 PM

    I smell a rat on this. So PMVT are offering all tenants of Apollo a 6 month residential opportunity? How quick was that?! They are trying to undermine the positivity of what has happened by reducing the nightly count in Apollo to zero quickly. They are working through government funded charities to do so. We saw through it Kenny. .

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 11:17 PM

    @saoirse janneau: it does seem very odd that 6 month spaces should open up with such remarkable speed.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 11:30 PM

    It’s stretching things to suggest that these spaces were planned and provided in a week. The truth of the matter, that these spaces were planned already, might not suit Brendan ogle’s election purposes, but everyone but the paranoid conspiracy theorists can understand it.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 11:42 PM

    @John Mulligan: then thankfully Apollo House played an invaluable role as a stop gap measure to accommodate more than 35 homeless people as Storm Barbara approaches.

    I take the people involved in Home Sweet Home as principled, humane, idealistic and altruistic. I include Ogle in that.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 3:47 AM

    @Micheal OLainn @saoirse janneau: I think it´s very important right now to be careful not to direct our (very justified anger) towards PMVT. A charity who have applauded the newcomers Home Sweet Home and have decades of experience of fighting homelessness are not the people we need to put under the microscope. Direct your anger and your misgivings towards the governement. What´s their response?

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 8:14 AM

    @Micheal OLainn: It’s a very clever spin attack, meant to divide public opinion and remove the huge support the Apollo Hse has received from the public.
    The government’s usual response to any display of people power.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 10:01 AM

    @Dave Doyle: you are absolutely right and I found myself falling for it.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 10:04 AM

    @Micheál Clesham: I truly accept your valid and justified criticism. Well said and I hold the McVerry trust and FathercMcVerry in the highest esteem. Indeed I have made donations but I feel protective of the Apollo House initiative which is beleaguered from many sides, most lately from Dublin City Council.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 11:17 AM
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    Dec 22nd 2016, 9:10 PM

    32 have not taken up the offer yet .. that’s sad really ..

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 11:15 PM

    @Dave Doyle: brilliant and comprehensive comment.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 1:46 AM

    what kind of trolls were out tonight?

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 3:51 AM

    @John Byrne: I don´t disagree with some of what you´ve said (i although i´m not sure where you´re going with the last line).
    But, did the fight against homelessness not need a publicity stunt? Surely no one believes that anything about Apollo House is long term but was there any harm in throwing up a hail-mary move like this?

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 7:35 AM

    @Scarlett Milton: You’re a typical example of ‘you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t’. This is not about personalities, and your attitude is unhelpful and you’re simply just looking to stir this typical online drama to pass your time. Be original for gods sake and find something else to poke at!!

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 9:44 AM

    Give it another 3 weeks or so and nobody will give a flying f€&k until Christmas comes around again and Glen gets all festive emotional again. It’s government action that is needed not out of work crusties singin Kumbuya.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 10:05 AM

    @TellingItAsItIs: thankfully you will be proven wrong. Your low class jibes discredit your feeble point. The flag has been raised.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 10:28 AM

    @Michael Mark my words. You’ll be eating crusty humble pie as soon as a few of their dole days comes around.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 8:09 AM

    @John Byrne: A load of bollixology from you. It’s not about Brendan Ogle or the organisers. It’s all about the government and its neo-liberal market primacy ideology that turns human need in a for profit commodity. A government that has farmed out its responsibilities to charities. Charities where the majority of the funding goes on salaries and a pittance goes where it’s intended.
    Apollo Hse has shown people what can be done when people organise themselves and use the resources at their disposal, the vacant, public owned buildings, to give some respite to the most disadvantaged in society. And it terrifies the government.
    The PMVT versus Apollo Hse spin we are now seeing spread across the media is phase two of the government’s response. The first being the very fast court action. This latest stunt to divide people and get the government off the hook wont work if the truth is told. What PMVT is offering the homeless is also a long time in the planning. It too offers the homeless a genuine alternative to a shop doorway, or a mat covered floorspace, that takes no account of the homeless’s problems, needs, safety or dignity. That’s the best DCC can come up with.
    Public leaders are well entitled to demand how the government spends the resources. That’s democracy. The government’s sworn duty is to use the resources of the state for the benefit of ALL its citizens. The government and its love for a market driven ideology does not serve its ALL citizens. It serves only a select few.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 10:22 AM

    75 Social housing units built this year, the government’s reluctance to provide council housing is why we are here, they put it on to private landlords to fill the gap through RAS and it hasn’t worked, it’s basically privatisation of Social housing, there are always going to be people who cannot afford to buy their own house and these people should be accommodated by Social housing.

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