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‘Nothing set in stone’: Amid backlash over messaging, Martin says easing of measures will be constantly reviewed

In an interview with TheJournal.ie today, Martin said the rollout of the vaccination programme may give the government “better choices”.

TAOISEACH MICHÉAL MARTIN has said the impact of the phased re-opening of schools on levels of Covid-19 transmission will be closely monitored and will inform any decisions that are made in mid-March on potential changes to lockdown measures.

The Cabinet subcommittee on Covid-19 heard last night that the country will not be moving from Level 5 to Level 4 restrictions for some time. The phased re-opening of schools is expected over March and early April.

It’s expected that junior infants, senior infants, first and second class will return on 1 March. All primary school children will return to school from 15 March, when third, fourth, fifth and sixth class pupils return.

In an interview with TheJournal.ie today, Martin said he can understand people’s disappointment as they face into several additional weeks of lockdown.

“Everybody wants to try and get beyond the current level of restrictions. I understand that fully,” he said.

“I mean, people are very down, since January they’ve been in very restrictive environments – the five kilometre rule in particular is a significant one. We’ve closed retail, we’ve closed hospitality, personal services, so that that is understandable, but it’s the public health advice we’re receiving.”

The Irish Daily Mirror reported today that Martin said a severe lockdown would continue until the end of April.

When asked about this specifically, the Taoiseach denied he said ‘the end of April’, though video from the Mirror shows he did tell the paper’s reporter that significant restrictions would be in place “to the end of April”. 

Martin told TheJournal.ie that the government will keep the situation under constant review, stating”nothing is set in stone”. 

He said severe restrictions would remain “into April”, stating that there will be a review after Easter. 

A government spokesperson said after the interview that although “severe restrictions” would stay in place after that it is the government’s view that this does not necessarily mean Level 5 and that severe restrictions could include Level 3.

The Taoiseach said: “There was no big news in that [discussion of dates of when restrictions will last] from my sense as I believe it has been well trailed that we are looking a prolonged suppression of the virus, and obviously we are looking ahead, we are coming to the end of this phase. We’ve been saying this consistently.”

 

He said restrictions will be reviewed on a regular basis, in particular as the vaccinations are rolled out.

The Taoiseach said the fact that the British variant now accounts for 90% of cases “is now changing the ballpark” and the impact of re-opening schools will give officials an indication of how to proceed.

“They want to monitor each stage of the re-opening, so they would monitor the impact for example of the limited opening of schools and then they’ll come back to us with further advice after that to say ‘that went okay or didn’t go okay’ and that would determine future measures,” he said.

Asked what announcements the public could expect next week he said:

NPHET are advising Monday, government will decide on Tuesday in relation to the restrictions, but they will be reviewed on a regular basis and in particular, depending on the impact of the first phase of the reopening, which is the schools at the beginning of March [it will be the] middle of March before the reviews.

“It will be kept under constant review, particularly as the vaccination programme rolls out and perhaps gives us better choices. So nothing is set in stone.”

The Taoiseach rejected a suggestion that the public’s frustration relates to a problem with the way the government has been communicating its messages around restrictions.

“No, I just think it’s the fact that people are facing into a significant period of restrictions,” he said.

“It’s understandably causing a lot of upset and worry and concern,” he said.

He denied that the he was losing the room, stating “we need to keep with this”, stating that “by and large” people are adhering to the regulations.

“It is the sensible thing to do, now that we know vaccinations are coming,” he said, stating that April, May and June will see greater numbers of people vaccinated. 

Speaking to reporters this evening, the Taoiseach reiterated that while severe restrictions would remain in place, that did not mean there would be no easing at all before the end of April.

“There’s a whole range of restrictions, it doesn’t mean that we’re not going to lift anything between now and then.”

“It’s open to review, is what I’m saying.”

While the Taoiseach was reluctant to speculate on what will open when, he did confirm that it is the intention of government to get creches and the ECCE childcare scheme reopened in early March, though similar to schools, it could be done on a phased basis.  

When asked if there was any glimpse of hope he could give people heading into the weekend, he said the vaccination programme is the “chink of light”.

The programme for vaccinations will be “ramping up” from April onwards, where he said there is going to he much higher levels achieved.

That will give the government greater room for “manouevre”, in terms of looking at things like reopening sports, household visits and staycations.  

“We are very conscious of mental health,” he said, stating that those areas referenced will also be kept under constant review, adding that he will engage with NPHET on reopening aspects of life that will help people cope. 

“We are not out of this current wave yet,” he said, stating that between now and the end of this month we could be around 600 cases per day. 

“That is still high,” he said. The first phase is reopening the schools and reviewing it after two weeks. 

“I do believe the vaccine will change the landscape in time… if we get the vaccine in that we are scheduled to get in, I think by June and July we will be in a very strong position,” said the Taoiseach.

Speaking about the NIAC report about reviewing when cohorts or groups are vaccinated, the Taoiseach said he received the report earlier today, confirmed that it is currently getting reviewed by the health minister and the chief medical officer.

He said the government were keen to see if those with underlying conditions, that were further down the list, could be moved up.

“I think that is fair and reasonable,” he said.

The vaccine reduces the severity of illness and can prevent death for those that are more vulnerable, he said, stating that they want to get the vaccine to those people “as quicly as we possibly can”.

The news of no significant easing in the near future comes after public health officials said last night that while Covid-19 numbers are still going in the right direction, progress has now slowed down.

Professor Philip Nolan, chair of the Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group, said that this is likely due to the increased prevalence of the UK B117 variant, which he said is now 90% of all Covid-19 cases in Ireland.

“We are maintaining suppression, but it’s precarious,” said Nolan, who estimated the reproduction number to be between 0.65 and 0.85.

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    Mute Jurgen Remak
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    Oct 19th 2018, 7:45 AM

    This is a long time coming in Pennsylvania and expect other US states to follow. Prosecutors should know to expect absolute lack of cooperation in the other investigations into the Catholic Church around the world.
    Prosecute and sue the hell of ‘em.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:33 AM

    @Jurgen Remak: yup, I think New York, Missouri, New Mexico, Illinois, and Nebraska are investigating. The problem is most of those have just asked politely for the records rather than the issuing subpoenas.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:38 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: don’t get the softly softly approach still adopted by the various states. Their offices should be raided and necessary documentation seized. Wouldn’t surprise me if the most sensitive info has been destroyed seeing as they’ve had decades to prepare themselves at this stage

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    Oct 19th 2018, 9:20 AM

    @Bruce van der Gutschmitzer: if I was to hazard a guess I’d say it’s because AGs face election. Shouldn’t stop them doing things the right way but the sight of churches being raided would put of a lot of voters.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 10:07 AM

    @Bruce van der Gutschmitzer: the softly softly approach is the one we took here and are still taking, it seems to be born out of some sort of misplaced respect for the church

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    Oct 19th 2018, 10:14 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: ya, I get that. A lot to do with apathy and burying heads in sand too but it’s just a particular aspect of Irish life I don’t understand given the constant revelations over the last 30 years. Future generations will look back at Leo giving his wink and a nod and real lack of assertiveness towards Frankie and the church during the visit and cringe. The time for diplomacy is over.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 10:25 AM

    @Dermot Lane: my theory is humans are conservative by nature, Ireland in particular, although we are beginning to liberate ourselves. We are only now shaking off the shackles of generational brainwashing. Give it 20 years and the church will be completely defunct. Maybe then we’ll get true and just results. Well we won’t because the powers that be and anyone close to accountable will be dead, along with many survivors who cannot access mental health services as they will not have received adequate restitution if at all.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 11:11 AM

    @Bruce van der Gutschmitzer: I 100% agree, there’s a massive element of not wanting to know involved from the public as well.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 1:05 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: absolutely. It’s our ugly past that many people just want to be left there. Reality is it needs to be unearthed and people/the organisation need to be held to account for proper healing and to show that they can’t get away with it. They’re selling off assets to fund retirement (not to pay restitution, evidently) yet claiming they’ll be bankrupted so it is having and will have a direct effect on our education and society so the sooner people become more empathetic and take their heads out the better.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:09 AM

    Well it’s about time a country investigated the church instead of shipping priests around.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 7:58 AM

    Imagine, it takes a subpoena for the Catholic Church to cooperate after THEY raped children, what an organisation.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 10:26 AM

    @PaulineSmith: The big mistake here and in many other places is that they should have been dawn raids by police to get files and information, they do not understand cooperate, it should be all stick and no carrot. Remember Benedict XVI, just before been pope called on all information to be sent to the Vatican and no cooperation with authorities, this is the level of obstruction we are dealing with, the very highest level.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 7:42 AM

    Thoughts & Prayers

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    Oct 19th 2018, 7:58 AM

    This is a welcome development, the Church called in Authorities to help deal with and root out the abusers. Only 2 cases since 2003 shows the results of not relying on physiotherapy as was the medically recommended remedy society wide in former years.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:02 AM

    @Tom Molloy: Praising the Catholic Church because they only raped two kids since 2003, I’ve seen it all now from the apologists. Maybe we should give them some kind of reward for their abstinence?

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:16 AM

    @Tom Molloy: Only two cases since 2003…….maybe because parents have actually copped on not to leave their kids around priests unsupervised?

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:25 AM

    @Tom Molloy: BS. The church called in the authorities because they’d previously been found out. Why didn’t they call in the authorities in Ireland and ALL around the world in the seventies when they first became aware of the atrocities?

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:43 AM

    @Tom Molloy: it wouldn’t be a Catholic church article without the bold Tom to remind us of the morally distorted and deluded folk that follow the church.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 9:01 AM

    @PaulineSmith: Sounds like you are disappointed that it was only two cases in a population of 3.2 million with 21000 non clerical cases reported annually.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 9:06 AM

    @Tom Molloy: sounds like you’re saying a little bit is ok Tom.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 9:06 AM

    @AnnieBelle: or that now abusers have chosen careers in sports clubs.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 9:09 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: No for the child concerned what you call a little bit is devastating.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 9:21 AM

    @Tom Molloy: ah but Tom there were “only two” you’re the one minimalising it Tom.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 9:42 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I should have said “reduced to two” thanks.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 9:56 AM

    @Tom Molloy: another question Tom, how many of the over 3000 cases were reported within 15 years of the assault?

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    Oct 19th 2018, 1:26 PM

    @Tom Molloy: you’re an apologist for paedophilia and cover-ups. Was wondering when your feeble evasive contribution would surface. You must live in a mirror-free house.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 1:59 PM

    @Tom Molloy: relying on……..psychotherapy……. to stop repeat abusers is still not a thing of the past in spite of the overwhelming evidence that it failed in the past including clerical and non clerical abusers in institutions.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 2:08 PM

    @Tom Molloy: pretending you didn’t see the question works better if you don’t post again on the same thread

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    Oct 19th 2018, 3:13 PM

    @Tom Molloy: You just keep on showing your absolute ignorance on this topic..now ,Tom,why did psychotherapy ‘fail’ sometimes

    https://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/10/us/10beliefs.html

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    Oct 19th 2018, 3:41 PM

    @Kan Ye Go West: Tom is an ardent churcher. Ignorance is all he knows.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 4:18 PM

    @Tom Molloy: See below 8 hours ago I asked where u were with ur sick apologist views! Right on cue u arrive, ur figures are hysterically false? What ur brain washed sheep kind can’t comprehend is the headline? 300 priests in 1 case? Now u imagine he headline 300 bus drivers? 300 carpenters? 300 road sweepers?? Then add in all their colleagues and superiors who know they were raping kids and ignored them then when it got too much moved them on to another work place to carry on?? That’s the difference???????

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    Oct 19th 2018, 5:39 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: It is clear to you that to minimalise distorts you must see that to maximise also distorts. Eg Because some travellers behave badly it is not permitted to suggest that all travellers are bad. Do your own research and give us a balanced result.

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    Oct 20th 2018, 6:50 AM

    @Tom Molloy: so you won’t answer the question. How is calling for the attackers to be jailed minimalising? You seem happy with things as they stand. Truth of the matter is we don’t know how many more there are but we do know that the number is staggering. Tom, “ah but sure they’ve cut down” is an absolutely atrocious response.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:09 AM

    Absolute pure evil that’s all the Catholic priests are. Think of the effects their actions caused on their victims, who have had to deal with what was done to them throughout their lifetime and now the priests hide behind religion and cover ups. I hope they burn in hell and this lifetime which would still be too good for them

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:15 AM

    @aidan mccormack: Agreed, but this is the scale of it, 300 priests but how many more priests/bishops/and above knew and did nothing about it?
    Think about that u see a child raped by someone and do nothing about it, he gets moved and u know he’s now doing it to other children somewhere else, and Yet they stand there every Sunday preaching holier than though shit like the pathetic hypocrites they are? Shocking sick cult

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    Oct 20th 2018, 11:23 AM

    @aidan mccormack: is Fr Peter mcverry pure evil? if you said that about any other group of people it would not be okay.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 10:04 AM

    Why was the bishops palace in dublin never raided by the garda. because they’re intertwined that’s why.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 7:58 AM

    Where’s Tom with his “look over there, their as bad” shite!! Prison for all, to hell with this statute of limitations garbage. With sexual abuse of minors it’s a get out of jail free card as the trauma and shame felt by the abused takes years to report!!!
    make children safer don’t let clergy/priests near them! Simple

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:32 AM

    @Dougal67: had a look there and there is no statute of limitations for investigation and prosecution in to child rape by priests. If they’re still alive they will be going to prison – to be involved in many more rapes. Hope this news brightens your day, as it has mine.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:32 AM

    @Dougal67: Not just priests. Actors, bankers, business leaders, politicians, musicians. Ther’s more money in the child trafficking industry than in narcotics. Arrests of pedophiles are up over 5X times since the man whose name I dare not mention got into office. They really should report these things.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:44 AM

    @Niall Hughes: It has, also think forget about church crap and just raid their offices/churches before they destroy the evidence like they would with any other case, do you think they’d wait for a subpoena if it was someone’s carpenter father?? Forget the church holy garbage and go after them properly?

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:47 AM

    @Shane Dignam: there’s never been such and orchestrated denial and cover up than the Catholic Church. Any details on the above ambiguous statements?

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    Oct 19th 2018, 9:16 AM

    @Bruce van der Gutschmitzer: Look into Ronald Bernard for one. He worked high up in the banking industry and left after being invited to parties where there were child sex slaves. Look
    At his interviews, they are heartbreaking.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 9:55 AM

    @Shane Dignam: the guy that said he couldn’t go to authorities because he has no evidence but insists he has a dossier and that’s the reason that these child raping, serial killers let him live?

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    Oct 19th 2018, 8:54 AM

    I bet you that this carry on with a selection of priests was in the third letter of Fatima and that’s why we were never told what was in it
    What do you think

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    Oct 19th 2018, 10:12 AM

    @FlopFlipU: no here’s the third secret of Fatima: ‘ ‘Feck sake, this is getting out of hand lads, I was only winding you up! ‘

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    Oct 19th 2018, 7:52 AM

    The Catholic Church are hypocrites big time

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    Oct 19th 2018, 10:45 AM

    Suspected Priests? Who proof reads this stuff? Hi

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    Oct 19th 2018, 12:45 PM

    At this stage I really can’t think of a good reason why parents should continue exposing their children to anything connected with the Roman Catholic Church. It really is an evil organisation.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 1:20 PM

    Most child abuse happens in the child’s home by family members. Most of the priests who abused children are no longer in active ministry. It seems wrong to be critical of current clergy for sins other clergy have committed. It’s like being critical of all Irish for the child abuse of other Irish men whether they be clergy or lay people committed.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 1:27 PM

    @Tom Mullally: are you for real?

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    Oct 19th 2018, 2:09 PM

    @Martin Meyler: that’s Tom Molloy’s other profile

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    Oct 19th 2018, 3:15 PM

    @Tom Mullally: Most children live in their family homes,so it’s no wonder that most child abuse happens there…who’d thunk it…

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    Oct 19th 2018, 3:44 PM

    @Tom Mullally: Tom Tom Tom…if you’re going to set up another account, call it something other than Tom! I imagine you’re real name is Tom too?!…

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    Oct 19th 2018, 4:21 PM

    @Bruce van der Gutschmitzer: Sick vile piece he is? I wonder would Tom leave his kids alone with a couple of priests if their so innocent?

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    Oct 19th 2018, 10:15 AM

    I wasn’t able to read the article because of the headline. It sounds like the purpose of the investigation is to find out if the people who carried out the abuse were actually priests.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 10:26 AM

    @Richard Lippy Collins: kinda defeats the purpose of leaving a comment then no?

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    Oct 19th 2018, 11:20 AM

    @Richard Lippy Collins: look up suspect in the dictionary, it’ll help

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    Oct 19th 2018, 2:15 PM

    Like Brett Kavanaugh deserved , innocent until proven guilty.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 4:17 PM

    @Aine O Connor: get a grip Aine. How many more people need to come forward before you take your blinkers off? You continue to Look straight ahead at the promise of heaven, nothing to see on either side. Certainly not the abuse of children and widespread cover up of same.

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    Oct 19th 2018, 4:23 PM

    @Aine O Connor: Usually the case to be honest, but when it’s “child abuse” and “catholic priests” in the same headline it’s usually guilty? As they are a vile collection of paedophiles!

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    Oct 20th 2018, 11:27 AM

    @Dougal67: a sweeping statement

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    Oct 19th 2018, 5:26 PM

    What is a ” suspected priest ” ?? Is the person suspected of being a priest ???

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    Oct 19th 2018, 10:45 AM

    Suspected Priests? Who proof reads this stuff?

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    Oct 19th 2018, 11:15 AM

    @Jonathan Eastwood: to suspect means to harbor suspicions about. Therefore suspected priests are priests that there are suspicions about.

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    Oct 20th 2018, 1:44 PM

    Theres still I’d imagine some amount of rocks to be flipped over

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