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YESTERDAY, RTÉ ANNOUNCED that a new series of the much-loved Reeling In The Years will air next month.
This series will focus on the decade just gone, covering the years 2010-2019.
As well as featuring the serious stuff that made headlines in those years, it’ll also look at some of the short-lived fads of the time.
This quiz is all about those fads.
Best of luck.
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Why is it ok for British airways to take it over Aer Lingus but not Ryanair
Because BA don’t compete with them in the same way that FR do so merging the companies shouldn’t take away customer choice and isn’t likely to drive up prices.
Because British airways are not buying it.
IAG is British Airways
It’s the parent company HQ in Spain. Like Guinness are now owned by Diageo, HQ in London..Wheres the outrage?
BA form a part of IAG. To say IAG is BA is wrong. EI will keep it’s identity should the takeover happen.
Iag was created So BA could buy iberia and bmi. Just a shell. IAG is BA.
It’s called competition Jack, if Ryanair took over Aerlingus there would little or no competition in Dublin etc. A good example of this can be seen on routes out of Dublin where there is only one carrier operating, you will pay through the nose!
Diageo formed when Guinness plc and Grand Metropolitan merged , it wasn’t a takeover , Diageo didn’t exist before the merger , not the same as aer lingus
Logically because the new company will not dominate Dublin as a hub and there are no competing routes.
Personally because Ryanair has the crown for being the world’s shitest airline outside North Korea
If RyanLingus were allowed to go ahead it would control more than 80% of the passengers out of Dublin…
Even in Atlanta the world’s current most dominated major airport Delta only control 66% of the market.
Magners = Bulmers
Diageo is a British company.
a multinational just based In UK
OK Jack, so if that’s the case then why the hoo ha? Aerlingus will remain as Irish as Guinness….
That’s Cork Airport rightly screwed now
Shame. Love flying out of Cork.
I know that a bit of research into why the Cork-Heathrow link may be dropped would be unheard of round these parts but here goes anyway.. The Aer Lingus Cork-Heathrow route in 2013 had a load factor of 80% based on four daily rotations on Airbus A320′s. This puts it ahead in terms of load factor than some of British Airways own regional UK-Heathrow routes such as Newcastle for example.
So clearly here we have a profitable service providing traffic to Europe’s largest hub airport. A hub by definition needs short haul feed to fill long haul routes. So maybe, just maybe ,there’s a viable market being served here and hypothetically if anything were to happen to this, one of the other European hubs (Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Paris etc) would gladly take the business. The only reason the Cork Heathrow route would be dropped would be as a part of some total shift in BA policy where it would be dropping parts of its UK feeder services. Considering these are needed to fill its long haul aircraft, this simply isn’t going to happen
The Irish Government, as representative of the Irish people, should have held on to the landing slots when it was forced to sell out of the airline.
French
It may keep its identity, I doubt if it will keep all the LHR slots… .
I hope your right Bob. Not just Heathrow though. It’s also 18 other destinations. Aer lingus is the biggest carrier at the airport and if flights start dropping off and the airport sell out to Ryanair and they systematically push out all the other airlines then we will have a Shannon part 2
At the moment ( the winter season), Aer Lingus have only three jet aircraft based in Cork, one of these does the 4 daily Heathrow rotations, another does the Amsterdam and Paris routes (2x daily Amsterdam + 1x daily Paris) and the other does the sun destinations (Spain).
So that’s seven daily flights all going to the primary hub airports of Europe. These frequencies have not been touched in years so clearly there’s a healthy demand being catered for here. BA won’t be touching that source of long haul feed, if they do there are plenty alternatives
Ryanair will not promise seats on its board for Paschal and cronies when the are kick out next election
Makes no Sense to me… They wont let Ryanair buy Aerlingus because of “competition”. Yet before Ryanair ever had flights out of Dublin. Aerlingus used to charge huge prices just to fly to England, The only reason Aerlingus dropped prices was to compete with Ryanair!
Thats because in 1992, the EU deregulated air travel within Europe with the very intention of injecting more competition into the market. I cannot believe people would be happier to see Ryanair take over Aer Lingus than IAG. Ryanair, as great as they are and all actively treat competition with contempt and will introduce and dump services at a whim to get rid of competition.Just look at Wizz Airs routes to Cork or the former Aer Arann Cork-Dublin route for example. They made very little secret of their plans for the Heathrow slots, something that are basically the main component of the opposition to this proposed IAG take over
They have sold the country down the river, they may as well sell what’s left.
All publicly quoted companies are for sale. Aer Lingus has been for sale the day it was privatised.
its always for sale you muppet
What if Ryanair came in with a higher bid ?
Can’t sell it to Ryanair but it’s ok to sell it to brittish airways, I give up
The bid is lower than Ryanair’s first bid by a nice margin. It wasn’t likely that a Ryanair takeover would have got by competition authorities even if Aer Lingus was open to it.
Bye bye Heathrow slots!!
British airways is not in competition with Ryanair ? I Don’t think so
Its not in the publics interest to sell, the price offered is an undervaluation for one of the worlds safest airlines.
Ryanair offered approx EUR 700m a few yaers ago. IAG are offering over EUR 1.3 Bn.
IAG don’t need to take the EI slots, they have enough of their own and can codeshare with EI on DUB-LHR to then redeploy their own DUB-LHR slots.
Its 2015, LHR slots are not as essential as before. We can still get to London via STN,LCY and LGW.
We can get to USA from Dublin. We can get to Asia and Oz vis the Middle East.
You are talking out of your arse
Ireland’s and EU Competition Authorities would never allow Ryanair acquire Aer Lingus outright…monopoly just not a runner for obvious market reasons.
IAG, as one of the world’s largest airline Groups, is probably the ideal long-term owner for AL, and best for Ireland’s long term economic interests.
Economies of scale should be significant: Buying power in IAG leading to better deals with Airbus and Boeing on future fleet replacements; keener fuel prices; better access to cheaper long-term funding; efficient internal pension funds management, IT management services etc.
All of the above should result in competitive air fares for the punter in the proposed expanded IAG.
So, it looks as if all are locked and loaded for a deal.
In my view, all sellers should hold out for a better deal. Ryanair shareholders for example can’t be happy with latest offer, which hardly recovers its original investment. MOL is awfully quite on the matter. He probably knows full well offer will be rejected in the Dail forcing Willie to cough up some more on future offer.
Staff have one last chance to get black hole in AL Pension Fund plugged, and
Government hold the necessary bargaining chips to help them achieve this.
End of Dublin as a growing transatlantic hub. Will be left as not much more than a feeder for BA out of Heathrow. Pity.
Or it could be a big increase as IAG customers will have more choice to pee-clear in Dublin/Shannon.
I haven’t peed-clear since the pre Christmas cheer.
Breaking News
Country sells access to itself to outsiders, Also pays for water, In wet climate.
Red Herring cat. Pre-clearence is already over subscribed.
how much is Dublin going for? they’d do well to flog it, they’re more than welcome to it though foreign investors are well on target according to Nama figures. They will soon own you all. I hear it’s nice down country. Wouldn’t be the first time we sheltered ye. Always a safe haven when the s*** hits the fan.
That is so wrong!
You can expect even more flights to the US from Dublin if EI is assumed into IAG, or rather, into the Joint Business Agreement across the transatlantic. With Heathrow full, BA could even start (or have EI operate) new services to new, unserved locations in North America with Aer Lingus, BA, Iberia, and even Finnair feeding connecting passengers through Dublin.
Dublin wouldn’t have the capacity for more A320 or 777s even with T2.
another stupid short sighted decision from a placebo government
after the board or air lingus sign it off and hop on the next flight
after the staff are made redundant and the tax payer picks up the lions share of the redundancy tab
after the slots are carved up
after the new board of daa are appointed by cronies in gov
after the election here
we will realise paddy was still in party mode
Ah but Ciaran, there’s an election to be bought. Got to get in a few bob.
if they can rid the place of unions they would have a decent company
No, no, no. Don’t do it Paschal.
The fools are still flogging off Ireland’s assets. What can they sell next? Oil/Gas sold in corrupt deals years ago. The country is being stripped of all assets and sold off. Rebranding of large utilities so the can be sold easier to global English speaking economic speculators. I am expecting to wake up to coillte with the new name “Forestry Ireland” before the government retry to flog it. Asset stripping is never good for any business and is generally worse for a state.
#facepalm
Ei is a publicly quoted company. It’s not a national asset.
Meanwhile as some people have their pensions slashed
Read this as well yesterday, no wonder the Board are “happy” to Dance along, will be set for life after this. Some things never change…
Of Course the Board along with CEO Muller are going to recommend a sale, they are going to get a windfall of €30mill between them and its Muller’s extra pay-off before he heads to Malaysian Airlines
CORRECT!.
There’s been a lot of manager reshuffles in Aer Lingus the last few weeks…. Getting ready to feather there nests with cash…..
One thing we can be sure of. Whatever the government’s priorities are, public interest won’t be among them.
You said it Martin. The board that is NO DOUBT packed with political appointees will get their grubby paws on that €30m.
FG with their short term view on everything, will no doubt allow this to happen even if it makes the West of Ireland even more of a back water.
If Kim Jong-Un came along with the right price we’d be sold off…. money money money… All this country ever worries about, I get this has its pros and cons but I dread to think of the pockets this money is going into…
looks like Dublin will no longer be connected to the world. If you want to get to Dublin you’ll have to go to London first. Dublin & Shannon will now hold the same status as Glasgow or Birmingham. So much for Irish sovereignty.
As the great Luke Kelly said “For What Died the Sons of Róisín, was it greed. When we have sold enough of Ireland to be but strangers in it. For What Died the Sons of Róisín, was it greed”
I think Dublin will be ok because they will pull routes from regional airports. Everything will go through Dublin.
Wow ignorance is bliss, London is overloaded in terms of flights in the highly unlikely event that EI thought that was the way forward it would be impossible.
Dublin will still have direct flights to every EU state and many more Eurasia states, it will have direct flights to the US. And a better secondary connectivity route
It’s not Dublin we’re worried about…
Brass tacks. Money. Ryanair will take a practical view, windfall for them and many staff. They can’t get it, so if it’s down to them they’ll take it.
Patly…..no windfall for Ryanair….they paid around 2.50 per share. Only getting their cash back..
Ryanair staff who got stock as perks due to receive approx 50k each….
What Ryanair staff got EI shares as perks?
The ones that piss down the ladder (ramp stairs) and get those below to pay for the wet gear and the pleasure!!
Pat
Ryanair have lost millions in legal bills over the last 9 years.
Good news for the company. Connectivity with other parts of the world that Aer Lingus currently don’t fly to (South America, Asia) is important and should be welcomed.
Look up it’s British Lingus
It’ll go well either the ‘irish main street’s, debenhams, next tesco, or the German street, aldi, lidl……
*with the*
i don’t buy from any of those shops
of course not, you live in a cave and off the land.
i shop at Dunnes
so you can thank the British (Tesco) and the Germans (Aldi, Lidl), that you can afford to. You clearly don’t recall when aerlingus was state owned that it cost hundreds to fly across the sea…
Everyone wants cheap food, flights, holidays, clothes but high wages, booming property an yet they can’t join the dots when companies do what they need to survive….
Totally agree.Aer Lingus had the monopoly for years here.I remember paying nearly £200 to fly to Edinburgh! .overstaffing,generous pensions etc have led them to this point.I doubt if Aer Lingus ever turned a profit when it was state owned,its more likely there were substantial losses yearly.
Just wondering which government sold the first 75% of Aer Lingus in the first place.
Because it would lose money, need government subvention and be subject to political interference from unions.
The fools are still flogging off Ireland’s assets. What can they sell next? Oil/Gas sold in corrupt deals years ago. The country is being stripped of all assets and sold off. Rebranding of large utilities so they can be sold easier to global English speaking economic speculators. I am expecting to wake up to coillte with the new name “Forestry Ireland” before the government retry to flog it. Asset stripping is never good for any business and is generally worse for a state.
it was always for sale, don’t let facts get in the way of your rant though :D
Ryanair won’t sell their stake
I thought ryanair had to reduce their holding to 5%.
That decision is under appeal.
Thanks
They have publicly stated they will do what the government will do
Dubai is half the population of Ireland and it is an international hub with one of the largest and most awarded airlines which is Emirates, Dubai was a hole in the desert, if they did it why can ‘t we? They didn’t need a big foreign conglomerate, they did it on their own.
Dublin is roughly 45mns away from London and 1h30 from Paris. DAA cannot attract more than those massive hubs. We are too close to huge airports. Dubai on the other hand are in a middle of nowhere and lods of Airlines that link Europe to Asia/east Africa/Australia will stop there to refuel and help their passengers to link to other destination. They are in a complete different situation than Dublin.
Apples and oranges… They are halfway between Europe and oz. A perfect hub location.
They also threw billions at modern airports and fleet. We have neither of those options.
HAHA, Juan. It had NOTHING to do with all that Oil they have!
The UAE subsidise the whole operation massively same with Qatar, the business lounges in Dubai & Diha are bigger than DuB T2. Why else can u fly business or economy from Asia for ⅓ the price of The EU airlines? Because u stop in a hole in the desert for 1-7hrs
Are we really prepared to sit here and listen to FF’s opinions on other parties’ actions in government? The sincerity with which they spout this shite is nauseating in the extreme.
For anything and everything people dislike about the current coalition, FF were 10 times worse.
sure! and we’ll build a national rail network to the airport for them…..
Utterly irrelevant point, rail link to airport had merits regardless of EI ownership
Conor quit with the smart intelligence rebuffs. Not wanted around these parts
What about ordinary people with shares, I have over 4000 and haven’t a clue what’s happening
Then you should probably speak to your stockbroker or get professional advice
It’s funny, my mother – as a former employee- has shares in Aer Lingus. I imagine that AIG – if successful – will radically restructure the company which will probably have the effect of boosting revenue and increasing share value? I don’t think my mother would be too happy about benefiting financially from the dispossession of former colleagues (as I imagine any future restructuring would entail job losses and worsening conditions for remaining staff).
Your shares have are subject to a “drag” whereby if a sufficiently large % of the total shareholding of Aer Lingus votes to sell the company, smaller shareholders are obliged to sell theirs as well.
fantastic news :)
As long as the identity, branding and slots are protected, accepting the offer from IAG would now be the best thing to do. At least Aer Lingus has several things in common with IAG: it is a western European company (it is not a primarily Asian or Middle Eastern company like Etihad or Ermirates). It is also a parent company that seems to specialise in running flag-carrying airlines, such as Iberia (Spain) and British Airways.
Airlines are a capital intensive business. A good airline needs the capital to renew and upgrade their fleet every few years, IAG will provide this. The IAG connection will also open up a new world of travelling possibilities for Irish consumers through Dublin, and could make Dublin one of the great hub airports of the world. The IAG deal would be a big boon for Dublin Airport itself, especially considering the fact that the great facility that is Terminal 2 remains greatly underutilised and hasn’t come close to fulfilling its potential thanks to the limited nature of Aer Lingus’ current operations.
If IAG merges with Aer Lingus, it is possible that Irish consumers could get flights from Terminal Two direct to the Far-East and to new cities in North and South America. Even in terms of short-haul flights, Aer Lingus being an IAG airline could open up new cities in England and Europe for Irish consumers and businesspeople to fly to directly.
The worst reason in the world for the Govt to dither over selling its minority stake would be to appease the trade unions. The unions would like to maintain Aer Lingus as their little fiefdom, at the expense of the airline spreading its wings and fulfilling its potential as part of a larger entity. If the union barons are the only reason why the Govt is dithering, then the debate over its sale should be over.
Timmy Dooley and FF privatised Aer Lingus in the first place. What did he think would happen in the future?
I think Timmy Dooley is looking ahead to his own reelection when the time comes.
We haven’t got much left at home anymore. So please keep Aer Lingus at least it stills carry
the shamrock we all should vote against this
I didn’t realise we had the power to vote against the sale of a public listed company
A shamrock. Found in countless plastic paddy pubs worldwide.
A harp. Reverse side of Irish minted Euros and the tail of Ryanair.
Ryanair won’t sell there stake
Yes they will. All they want is a good return. They would have never been allowed a takeover anyway.
This debacle on the horizon , may well prove to be the deal breaker with this current Coalition Government .
The fact that An Dail must vote it through , ensures that they are stormy days ahead !
Can Labour and FG Deputies, vote in favour, of what effectively will be the death knell for Cork and Shannon Airports ?
Very tricky times ahead, for Enda & iPhone Joan ?
Aer Lingus could drop Shannon and Cork LHR links tomorrow and the Governments share couldn’t do a thing about it.
#boeing boeing
The pictured aircraft left Aer Lingus’ service in 1993 – 22 years ago. (http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b737-21011.htm)
Also, Aer Lingus doesn’t fly Boeings any more.
Just saying…
Aer Lingus operate 3 Boeing 757-200′s.
I stand corrected – good man Yer Man. As they’re damp leases, it means that there aren’t any Boeing-rated pilots on Aer Lingus’ payroll (unless they’re also Airbus-rated of course).
True, they are on lease alright, and yeah, I’m not exactly sure what the story is with the pilots, but I’d imagine that would probably be the case that they are contracted in as well.
They’re on dry lease
Also a 767 coming in this summer….
Will this mean that Ryanair will then be “the national carrier”?
The “national carrier” is an utterly dated concept at this stage, carriers are almost all private enterprises and pan national in nature
Change wording from Aer Lingus to Irish Water….. you’ve been warned
Aer lingus should be sold. A government is there for the people not for the travel industry. This day and age and an airline being owned by a government is ridiculous. Sell it and build social housing with the money.
more money for the troika
Most people won’t know this because they posted it on their Facebook account. :)
If the government want to insure the future of air lingus then don’t sell, its not rocket science you idiots.
More money to line the wealthy of this country. I think everything that our government has a stake in will all be sold off
Real gavel
What’s wrong with the company? I’m very interested
I’m no fan of unions but I have no idea what you talking about tbh
Price is still too low but the best option for keeping a “national” carrier, IAG need Aerlingus to fill the BA & Iberia long haul. One world means you can use your miles on almond their carriers (I collect BA but fly everyone else as their cheaper and service is better) the fat will be trimmed and Aerlingus will survive … Again
Dub route is already code share with BA & BMI so they won’t mess with pricing too much as Ryanair will be waiting like vultures in the wings.
As a Citizen of Ireland, and therefore one of the legitimate owners of Aer Lingus, it is treasonous for this despot Government to sell it..
FF put it up for sake years ago when they allowed it to be publicly quoted. Ireland inc does not own EI. Why are people so ignorant is actual facts?
They say they will keep as a separate business, is that a PIG in the cockpit.
Neeeeeuuuummmmmooooooommmmmm
Do you not think that Ryanair have made their own deal with AIG to strengthen their business.
This photo is old probably in 1980s & I think some of Journel.ie staff should go to Specsavers to have their eyes tested!
War chest. That’s about the size of it. There can be no other possible rationale for the contemplated sale at this time. Shame on this shower of gangsters and liars, who continually stress what a big favour they are doing us by representing us, at no benefit to themselves, of course!!! I am fit to do murder at the moment just looking at them. I will have to avoid all media until I cool down. See you all on the 31st. Marchon!!
I think it’s a sad day for Ireland to sell one of the best air Companies in the World.
And i wonder where the money will go if Government sell it, i bet we will not hear a whisper when it is done, just like all that was sold by Nama.
Ireland is not selling it. It’s a publicly quoted company that has been up for sale for years.
Asset stripping . Once are li Gus is gone then no stopping anything else been sold off
It’s funny how protective we are about our door to London given we’re about to celebrate the 100 years since our last effort to close it!
The government are sitting on it, they will wait until there is yet another scandal to distract from the sale then sign it off the night before a holiday….. its the only way to do buisness !!!!. The A.L staff will probably get most of that 330 million back when their pension goes belly up in a few years.
What percentage of the sale will go to the Troika? 50%? and then what is left? Sell your soul for a bag of coal and you don’t even have a fire!!! That should send the shivers up Labour backsides as Europe’s best boys order them to comply for a pittance…toothless weasels stuffed into a pair of Fine Gael jockies and not a bulge in sight.
Keep tossing, you tossers.
What if they decide to wind up Aerlingus that means only choice Ryanair and Ireland will become isolated as Ryanair doesn’t fly to the USA. Prices will rocket.
The first action of the new Greek government was to halt the sale of the Port of Piraeus because of its strategic location, lesson to Irish government wake up smell the coffee
It better NOT be a warchest!!
“Little appetite for sale of Government’s Aer Lingus share”
If this sale does not proceed then the board of Aer Lingus should all resign.
There is a clear correlation between the bluster of labour tds rallying against a sale and the government approving it….take it that aer lingus is gone now they have started to blow hot air. Brendan Ryan uses this trick all the time but do not expect him to stand by his bluster when the party line is called.
I guess most Irish people wish Guinness was still an Irish company! Economy is doing well, tourism is up and they want to sell a national asset – then what’s left ? Hotels and properties are gone.. What is Irish – the assets that nobody wants .. The crap Ireland will have to keep. Don’t sell !!!
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