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Facebook 'concerned' over plans to regulate online political advertising in Ireland

An Oireachtas committee will hear submissions from Facebook and Twitter today on the proposed Electoral Reform Bill.

FACEBOOK WILL TODAY tell an Oireachtas committee that it has “concerns” over proposed electoral reform laws in Ireland that would regulate political advertisements online.

The social media giant will also tell TDs and senators that if the government presses ahead with these reforms it could place platforms such as Facebook in the “undesirable and avoidable situation where they could have to choose between violating Irish law or violating EU law”. 

Twitter, meanwhile, will tell the committee that there is a “remote chance” that the proposed reforms around advertising on social media could negatively impact the day-to-day campaigning of non-profit organisations and NGOs. 

In January, the government published the general scheme of the Electoral Reform Bill

The bill proposes to set up a statutory, independent Electoral Commission for Ireland.

It would also see the regulation of online political advertising in the run-up to electoral events, along with the modernisation of the electoral registration process. 

Under the general scheme of the bill, it defines an online political advertisement as “any form of communication in a digital format commissioner for political purposes” to be displayed or promoted on an online platform for which the platform charges money. 

It would be a requirement to have a “transparency notice” displayed with the advert denoting who has paid for the ad, how a person came to be targeted with the ad and the amount paid. The onus will be on the online platforms to ensure such information is made available for the adverts they allow to be run on their sites. 

The Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage is conducting pre-legislative scrutiny on the bill, and will today hear from representatives from Facebook and Twitter on the matter. 

In his opening statement to the committee, Facebook Ireland’s head of public policy Dualta Ó Broin will say that the social media firm has analysed the general scheme of the Electoral Reform Bill “with great interest but, at times, also with some concerns”. 

“Regarding the specific wording of the proposed legislation, it seems appropriate to start with the definition of a political advertisement,” Ó Broin will say. “Facebook recommends a more objective definition of Online Political Advertising.

“At a minimum, the legislation should take account of what online intermediaries, such as Facebook, can and cannot do. In short, we can identify whether an ad contains certain content, but we cannot divine the intention that an individual has in placing an ad. The reference to ‘political purpose’ should be replaced with a far more objective test.”

Ó Broin will also say Facebook has a “broad range of concerns” about the transparency requirements. 

These include “privacy concerns” about the information regarding an individual which is intended to be shared and the impact of “disclosing specific micro-targeting criteria”. 

We also have practical concerns about the appropriateness of online platforms collecting information about the amount spent on “content creation,” and the requirements for advertisers to provide an end-date for a campaign. Finally, we have concerns about the reporting obligations set out in this head and question whether they are proportionate or indeed necessary in all circumstances.

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Both Twitter and Facebook will say they welcome the government’s move at reform to ensure the integrity and transparency of elections. 

In the case of Twitter, it will say its interactions with the UK electoral commission had been “positive” and it would work with its Irish equivalent once established. 

It will say it already prohibits political advertising, and does so on the belief that “political message reach should be earned, not bought”. 

Twitter will also say it takes action against disinformation on its platform when it comes to elections, such as efforts to mislead about an election outcome or encourage voter suppression or intimidation. 

It will also say its platform has a positive effect in the run up to elections. 

“For example, during the Irish General Election in 2020, we saw a consistently high level of positive and healthy political debate on Twitter between candidates, parties, voters, journalists, civil society groups and interested election-watchers,” Twitter will say. 

On the issue of the Electoral Reform Bill, Twitter will say that there’s a chance that the definition of “political purpose” as set out in the legislation may have a remote chance of negatively affecting non-profits or NGOs seeking to advertise on online platforms. 

It will say: “It would be helpful if this was further clarified. We respectfully submit that such categories of promotion should not be subject to the requirements set out in the draft legislation.”

Both Twitter and Facebook will express concerns about efforts to regulate online platforms at both a national and European level. 

Twitter will call for a “coherent set of standards at a European level” as failure to do so would “risk building virtual walls between our digital communities”. 

Facebook will say that enacting the Electoral Reform Bill now will “lead to a lack of alignment” between Irish rules and EU rules. 

“We understand that the Commission intends to publish a legislative proposal for political advertising in the next six months,” its head of policy Ó Broin will say.

“There is a very real possibility that online platforms could find themselves under two inconsistent regulatory regimes and placed in the undesirable (and avoidable) situation where they would have to choose between violating Irish law, or violating EU law.”

The Oireachtas Committee will begin its hearing in the Dáil chamber at 9.30am this morning. 

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    Mute Vonvonic
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    Mar 30th 2021, 12:13 AM

    Zuckerberg very active in the whole are of interference with sovereign government policy at the moment. Sound guy he is.

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    Mar 30th 2021, 11:53 AM

    @Vonvonic: the more data he gathers the more he understands what it means to be human.

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    Mar 30th 2021, 12:18 AM

    Concerned about his revenue
    Shocking the lack of moderation on that cess pit

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    Mute JustMeHere
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    Mar 30th 2021, 4:22 PM

    @James Gorman: Really? You’re shocked? Twitter is worse…

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    Mar 30th 2021, 12:27 AM

    - “The social media giant will also tell TDs and senators that if the government presses ahead with these reforms it could place platforms such as Facebook in the undesirable and avoidable situation where they could have to choose between violating Irish law or violating EU law”.

    Certainly avoidable to the extent that you can’t choose between violating one or the other, as per the principle of primacy of EU law in the case of a conflict between the two. So that’s simply not an argument, and if that’s what’s giving you a headache as a company then you either haven’t done your homework or there’s something else on your agenda, but in any case it’s a nonstarter.

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    Mar 30th 2021, 12:34 AM

    @Mick Tobin: You’re right, but when you watch how easily NPHET play our politicians, I’d say Facebook won’t have too much difficulty. Conflation I know.

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    Mute Jjohn Cconway
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    Mar 30th 2021, 1:06 AM

    @Mick Tobin: I took that to mean that there is a possible conflict between the proposed new Irish law and existing European law?

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    Mar 30th 2021, 1:14 AM

    @Jjohn Cconway: Presumably but if there is then Facebook doesn’t have to choose, all they need to do is get it brought before the European court. But they’re probably worried about the impact of the Irish law on possible future EU regulation, and that’s what they’re trying to prevent.

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    Mar 30th 2021, 10:34 AM

    @Jjohn Cconway: no there is a proposal coming down the tracks in the EU and that is only the starting point. Member States and the EP then negotiate the final texts. Even what they call maximum harmonisation directives often have some minimum harmonisation articles to give member states wiggle room on important red line issues. There is nothing to say if we came up with a good example of how to regulate here that it wouldn’t be the same approach taken at EU level. Sometimes there is only one way to skin a cat. Facebook etc. have weak arguments so they are attempting to confuse td’s.

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    Mute Arch Angel
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    Mar 30th 2021, 6:58 AM

    Whoa there, in what world is it suddenly alright for social media companies, or any companies, to interfere in the policy of any nations government? If they don’t want this, I do.

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    Mute Helpless In The Face Of Your Beauty
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    Mar 30th 2021, 6:35 AM

    “FACEBOOK WILL TODAY tell an Oireachtas committee”. So this story is essentially FB and Twitter briefing The Journal on their submissions to a committee before the event, so that they can frame the story to their advantage.

    This is journalism corrupted.

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    Mute Wade Wilson
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    Mar 30th 2021, 7:11 AM

    Zuck has a valid point. How exactly do you determine what is political and what is not? Remember, right now people are arguing about the sex of a plastic potato and a Dr. Seuss book and that is currently considered political.

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    Mute David A. Murray
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    Mar 30th 2021, 7:22 AM

    @Wade Wilson: Those are more about ‘Culture Wars’ than politics though. Use anything imaginable to attack the other side as “attacking our way of life”. [And I don't have any patience with political correctness.] Social Media companies are concerned about profits and lawsuits. They are not concerned with substance, or genuine responsibility.

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    Mar 30th 2021, 10:41 AM

    @Wade Wilson: we have regulations about political advertising outside the digital space so why not online. Freedom of speech yes but not hate speech and defamatory claims in ads they are paid for and control. As a Facebook user I know that their ads already tell you why you have been targeted why not publish who has paid for the ad in the interests of transparency?

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    Mar 30th 2021, 7:01 AM

    Concerned about how his platform is toxic and slowly becoming obsolete.

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    Mar 30th 2021, 9:02 AM

    @Eddie Michael: your half right …toxic…but 2.6bn people using a platform in a month is far from becoming obsolete i’m afraid no matter how much you may wish it to be so

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    Mar 30th 2021, 10:28 AM

    @Dave Hammond: people click in and out but do they really engage with the advertising or provide significant activity data, most people are bored of social media. They need something like a good election to hook people in.

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    Mar 30th 2021, 7:53 AM

    “Privacy Concerns”. . spits coffee all over screen ..

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    Mute Tarraing Mo Liathróidí
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    Mar 30th 2021, 7:44 AM

    Those profits need to be kept up lads, no matter what the political or social cost will be sure

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    Mar 30th 2021, 7:37 AM

    In the absence of any example, I’ll take the claim of conflict between Irish and EU law with a grain of salt.

    A and B aren’t conflicting just because they are different: if A is “less than 100″ and B is “less than 80″ this is not a conflict. A is “less than 50″ and B is “greater than 60″ is a conflict.

    The only imaginable conflict is violating a directive which says “make the law exactly ‘less than 100′, no more or less” (which happens to make sure laws are generally the same throughout the EU), Ireland making it “less than 100″ is not a conflict for FACEBOOK. On their face they’re entirely compatible. Ireland exceeding the directive is a problem for the Commission, not Facebook. It’s only Facebook’s problem if they’re going in opposite directions — which is pretty hard to imagine.

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    Mar 30th 2021, 11:42 AM

    Why just political advertising? You cannot even watch a video on Youtube these days without an ad cropping up every 2 or 3 minutes. The internet….great idea at the start…a place without borders where everyone could get access to information they needed and all good until greed got in the way. Nowadays, you cannot even store the information on your own pc or even use your own copy of MSoffice. Now it has to be stored on the cloud, which you need a subscription for, using an app, that you need to pay a subscription for, and that information is no longer private anymore with all the cookies you need to accept as part of the page you want to look at. And wven with said subscriptions, you still get ads!!!

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    Mar 30th 2021, 12:07 PM

    He brought this upon himself. Before the last abortion referendum he contacted Leo with the offer to block pro-life campaigning adverts. Of course Leo jumped at the chance. The genie is out of the bottle in that one Zucky – you reap what you sow, plonker!

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    Mar 30th 2021, 10:53 AM

    Would a complete separation between social media and politics not be the way to go?

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    Mar 30th 2021, 10:56 AM

    Another stoopid thing being regulated. While the areas that need regulation are ignored.

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    Mar 30th 2021, 10:24 AM

    Are big-tech are also forgetting that Ireland has direct input into European legislation. During the legislative process Member States share their existing legislative approaches to the matter being discussed and that can provide guidance to the overall final work. Facebook just don’t want any examples on the table so they can try to influence or delay the process at EU level.

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