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Policing Authority says relationship between gardaí and students 'significantly deteriorated' in recent months

Students reported being fined for being on a walk within their 5km and having food deliveries stopped and checked for purchases of alcohol.

THE POLICING AUTHORITY has said the relationship between gardaí and some students has “significantly deteriorated” in recent months and is now characterised by feelings of “distrust, harassment and fear”.

In its latest report, the authority said students spoke about feeling “fear and nervousness” around dealing with gardaí in their area.

Students reported to the authority that based on recent experiences with gardaí they were confused about their rights but increasingly reluctant to assert them for fear of being ‘cuffed and fined’.

“Interactions with gardaí were described as premised on an assumption that first and foremost as a student you were up to no good. Those spoken to referenced many examples each, of interactions they believed to be unfair and not based on an accurate interpretation of the restrictions,” the authority said.

“Students were increasingly unlikely to contest fines with gardaí as it was ‘easier to just take the fine’. These included students who were reported as being fined for being on a walk within a 5km radius of home, being told that a walk was not a necessary journey, being turned back from going to a nearby shop for food and negative interactions at checkpoints.

“There were also reports of food deliveries being stopped and searched prior to delivery to check for purchases of alcohol as well as reports that houses were entered to break up gatherings. This is in contrast to the experience heard on other campuses whereby gardaí would wait outside as a house cleared of visitors.”

The Policing Authority said the prevalence of examples given was used to support the contention that all students are now being policed in a manner that assumes they are all breaching the restrictions or that they intend to.

“It was remarked that the 3Es [engage, explain, encourage] had been working for the majority of students but that a sole focus on the 4th E [enforce], while appropriate for those who were breaching the restrictions, was now being applied in a blanket ‘power trip’ fashion,” the authority said.

The students were clear in articulating an understanding of the need for the restrictions and the need to enforce the restrictions. They cited examples of where they had contacted the local gardaí to alert them to impending gatherings. In their view, the calls were not responded to in good time and it meant that the events had escalated significantly by the time the gardaí arrived.

“The long term fear expressed was that ‘students won’t forget’ and that there has been significant damage done to the perception, trust and confidence in the Garda Síochána. This in turn was cited as likely to deter students from reporting crime to the gardaí.”

The authority also reported that those working with migrants – documented and undocumented – made reference to both positive and negative experiences of policing performance, including “a perceived lack of empathy and understanding” experienced by some migrants in their interactions with gardaí in stations.

‘Reporting of domestic abuse’

The report noted that engagements with organisations that work with domestic abuse victims have continued to give positive feedback on garda engagement. 

“The divisional protective services units, now present in each garda division, are highly regarded as offering an experienced, expert and victim-centred service to those who come forward to report,” the authority said.

“Operation Faoiseamh [the Covid community engagement response] is credited with having encouraged reporting amongst men and women. There is an emerging sense of the strengthened relationships that have developed between the Garda Síochána and the groups and organisations working in this area at a local level, and the opportunities now arising from those relationships.”

Responding to the report, Minister for Justice Helen McEntee said she welcomed the work gardaí have done in reaching out to domestic abuse victims.

“I acknowledge the very real challenges for Garda members in maintaining that public confidence during this prolonged period of public health restrictions,” she said.

She acknowledged the Policing Authority’s role in assessing where An Garda Síochána “can do better”, referencing the reported negative experiences of some in migrant and student communities.

“However, I have seen how gardaí have constantly addressed the challenges, how they have adapted and how they have been resilient in delivering for the public in the face of risk and uncertainly. I would like to thank the women and men of An Garda Síochána for their continued exemplary public service,” she said.

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    Mute Niallers
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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:28 PM

    I’d imagine Cinema attendance will decline.

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    Mute Beachmaster
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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:17 PM

    There must be some way to link this to both Trump and Brexit

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    Mute John Leamy
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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:45 PM

    I blame Irish Water

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    Mute Rochelle
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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:48 PM

    They’re all examples of average folk suffering due to toxic nationalism?

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    Mute Daniel R
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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:53 PM

    More likely an overreaching state suffering from insecurity

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    Mute Poole Hyde
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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:36 PM

    Tis a bit much. Here you just get a dig in the ribs and told to stand up.

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    Mute Hugh Mannatee
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    Dec 13th 2016, 3:46 PM

    It’s a bugger really. You know that once the song is finished the bar is closed but you can’t run up fir a swift last pint out of respect. It’s a mixture of pride, obligation and acceptance. It’s like Pavlov’s dog in reverse. As soon as the first line starts my tongue goes dry.

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    Dec 13th 2016, 3:51 PM

    Do that to me and find yer nuts rising up through yer chest in reply.

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    Mute Jay Finn
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    Dec 13th 2016, 3:11 PM

    Nationalism and patriotism, just like religion. Anything that says ‘us over here’ are different from ‘those over there.’ Humanity is obsessed with being one thing or another. Indian, Irish, catholic, Christian, Hindu, black, white, man, woman.
    Jaysus lads, we’re all human.

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    Dec 13th 2016, 3:18 PM

    Just like all wood is wood and oak, ash, mahogany etc all a superfluous exercise in naming the same thing. Good luck making a camán out of Mexican pine or yellow deal…

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    Dec 13th 2016, 5:03 PM

    “Nationalism does nothing but teach you to hate people you never met, and to take pride in accomplishments you had no part in.” Doug Stanhope

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    Dec 13th 2016, 6:48 PM

    Doug Stanhope, Louis CK, Bill Burr, Bill Hicks, Joe Rogan: just a few comedians who use their craft to speak truths in such a clever and funny way!

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    Mute Deborah Behan
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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:46 PM

    Surely the most ridiculous legislation! Whoever went to the cinema and thought you know what there’s not enough patriotism going on here? Bizarre.

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    Mute Daniel R
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    Dec 13th 2016, 4:12 PM

    “Wherever you may seek solitude, men will ferret you out and compel you to belong to their desperate company of oddfellows.” Henry David Thoreau

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    Mute Fiona Fitzgerald
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    Dec 13th 2016, 8:53 PM

    Weird all right. Maybe there’s a fine – stealth tax – it would rake in a fine amount for a government sly enough. (I’m just slipping out to copyright an old song…)

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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:18 PM

    this is a fine example of when leftist take it too far

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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:36 PM

    I think you’ll find it’s generally the right that are overtly patriotic like this

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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:54 PM

    @Harry: Andre has been posting sh*te like this on almost every single article I’ve read today.
    Best to be ignored, I think.

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    Mute Neal, not Neil.
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    Dec 13th 2016, 3:00 PM

    Every frigging news item nowadays, somebody has to make it about left versus right. The world is more complicated than that.

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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:21 PM

    That’s mad Ted

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    Mute John O'Driscoll
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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:23 PM

    So what? Refusing to stand for a national anthem is free speech. Considering the lies some of those caterwauls and the implicit violence in them refusing to stand is a legitimate protest. Consider the appalling dirge that is this kip’s notional anthem, with the big lie in the middle about “No-oh more our ancient Si-re-land sha-hall shellturr de despot or de slaaaaave” when you look at shameful SHannon War&TorturePort and how the Ho’Lie Ground facilitates foreign despots dragging their slaves across it to destruction and damnation whether shackled to the floor of N379P and her Gulfscream sisters in an orange jumpsuit with sedatives up their bottles while Irish customs and Gardai allow their hats to fall down over their eyes making like three monkeys, or wearing Camo and desert combat boots to inflict and have inflicted upon them all manner of cowardice inhumanity and rapine, betraying dishonouring and disgracing Ireland’s cause and history.
    It is my absolute pleasure to never stand for that lie and to remain seated wherever I hear that caterwaul played. Why not swap it for Pink Floyd’s “Money”? That’d much better suit the values of Modren Direland. “I’m alright Jack keep yer hands offa maaah stack…”

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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:26 PM

    Rant over?

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    Mute Sean
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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:30 PM

    U ok ? Xx

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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:34 PM

    Go home John, you’re drunk.

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    Mute John O'Driscoll
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    Dec 13th 2016, 2:50 PM

    Sure nearly anyway. Just to observe that Yeats was correct then and now when he said “All that was sung / All that was said in Ireland was a lie, / Bred out of the contagion of the throng…” He would have been unsurprised to see the wreckage wrought by Irish Lies were he to see this kip today and post-2008. SNN City War&Torture Port is only a symptom of a much greater national malaise.

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    Dec 13th 2016, 3:38 PM

    @John O’Driscoll:

    Do you need us to call you a doctor?

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    Dec 13th 2016, 5:49 PM

    What do people think of bands playing the national anthem in pubs at the end of the night . I used to always play it but don’t anymore as I felt that in places that nobody listened to it or stood for it. Over the years I have had verbal abuse over not playing it in some places. Personally I don’t really think it belongs in a pub anymore but others think different.

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    Dec 13th 2016, 6:43 PM

    @Adrian Connolly: I refuse to stand when played in a pub. Too sinister

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    Dec 13th 2016, 7:02 PM

    Hated it as a young fella, and when I played in bands in pubs we often got dogs abuse for not playing it as well. Don’t think it’s a thing anymore though. Thankfully.

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    Dec 14th 2016, 12:33 AM

    Yeah, the national anthem being played on a plastic fdcking backing track at 4 in the morning after about ten pints was never the spirit of what the national anthem was to be used for. To anyone giving you abuse for that is pathetic, laughable, small minded, cringe and a proper embarrassment to their family and country and needs to be schooled on the spirit of a national anthem.

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    Dec 14th 2016, 2:41 AM

    Don’t stop believing is the national anthem in coppers

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    Mute Wodanaz von Mises
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    Dec 13th 2016, 4:16 PM

    Aaah yes…the mandatory statist pledge. Still around in some countries that forced ritual. All hail the holy nylon rectangle and jingle that accompanies it…or else.

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    Dec 13th 2016, 7:14 PM

    Cue Father Billy O’Dwyer, a.k.a. “Spinmaster” playing Ghost Town lol.

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    Dec 13th 2016, 5:59 PM

    Same would apply in a few countries .. disrespect the Anthem , go to jail ! Thailand is pretty bad on stuff like that, say a bad word against any member of the Royal family , 15 years !!! They have all been in mourning since October over the king’s death, wearing black or black ribbons , afraid not to , whether or not they are genuinely sad , and yes , you stand BEFORE the movie starts for images of the king and the playing of the anthem and it would be a brave person that would refuse to do so !

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    Dec 13th 2016, 10:07 PM

    Maybe they should just play India”s Call

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    Dec 13th 2016, 5:13 PM
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