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Health Minister Stephen Donnelly Oireachtas TV

HSE ransomware attack: 'Is it possible that sensitive information has been downloaded? Unfortunately, yes'

The health minister and Taoiseach have been among those fielding questions in the Dáil on the cyber attack today.

MINISTER FOR HEALTH Stephen Donnelly has said that “unfortunately, it is possible” that sensitive personal information of patients could’ve been compromised by the HSE ransomware attack. 

Speaking in the Dáil this evening, Donnelly said security experts are working through “server by server” to establish the extent of the information that may have been taken by the hackers.

“The criminals behind this assault are utterly contemptible,” he said. “We will overcome the effects of this assault on our public health system. I’d like to reassure colleagues that we are doing all we can to ensure that we resume services as quickly and as safely as possible.”

Fielding questions from Sinn Féin’s David Cullinane, the health minister said that the latest briefing he’d received on the matter “alluded to files that have been put up online, which were heavily redacted”. 

“At the time of the briefing, there had not been verification as to whether or not these were genuine files,” Donnelly said. “My understanding from the briefing was that criminal organisations will use false records to try and extract funding. 

It is going to take some time for the security experts to give us a full view right across the systems as to exactly what information is available. But is it possible that sensitive information has been downloaded? Unfortunately, that is possible, yes.

Under attack

At Leaders’ Questions earlier today, Taoiseach Micheál Martin had defended the State’s capacity to deal with cyber crime following the attack on the HSE.

Aontú leader Peadar Toibin said the Government’s record on protection from cyber attacks was “shockingly poor”.

He criticised the five million euro budget given to the National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC) last year.

Toibin told the Dail: “The former chief executive of the HSE, Tony O’Brien, stated this week that the HSE’s expenditure on IT security is ‘about a quarter of what you would expect compared with other health systems’.

“Taoiseach, that’s a phenomenally difficult thing to deal with, that the person who was head of the HSE in recent times is saying that the Government is spending a quarter of what it should be with regards to cyber security.

“The NCSC has been given a budget of just five million euros.

“How can the Government claim to be fulfilling their duty of care to Ireland against cyber attacks?”

Toibin told the Dáil the NCSC has just 25 staff and no dedicated premises, something denied by the Taoiseach, who accused the Aontu leader of a “melodramatic presentation”.

Micheál Martin also rejected the assertion that the NCSC is underfunded, noting that in the last budget funding for the centre had been trebled.

He added: “Since I’ve become Taoiseach, I’ve been very focused on the overall national cyber security threat.

“We’ve significantly increased funding for the National Cyber Security Centre, but also within the HSE itself, both capital and current funding has gone up dramatically over the last number of years.”

He added: “We have very good capacity within our system in terms of the quality of the personnel available, that is dealing with this particular issue.

“And it has been dealt with in the correct manner, contain the problem, remedy, restore, and protect.

“Our overriding objective is to get services up as quickly as we possibly can for patients. We have to do it methodically, we have to do it properly and in a way that’s robust to further attack.

“That’s why, unfortunately, it is and would take some time to get services fully restored, because we are prioritising key areas, as you know.”

Budget 2021 saw an increase of €3.4 million in funding for the NCSC to €5.1 million, up from €1.7 million the previous year.

The Government has rejected ransom demands from the crime gang responsible, and has focused on restoring all medical services as quickly as possible.

But there are concerns that if ransom demands are not met, personal data belonging to thousands of patients could be sold online.

The impact of the attack on services is expected to last throughout this week and beyond, with thousands of patients facing cancelled appointments and delays.

Private and voluntary hospitals will be brought on board to ease the burden, with “alternative processes” to be put in place for urgent cancer care needs.

With reporting from PA

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    Mute Liz O'Neill
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    Jul 11th 2022, 5:04 PM

    The is outrageous, but most likely down to the fact that, with the current strict baggage restrictions , Andy was made to check in his instrument’s and not allowed to bring them onboard. This is the kind of nightmare every musician dreads, and often the only solution is to buy a plane seat for each instrument. This may not only render the trip itself financially unviable, but the cabin crew of certain airlines may still see fit to remove them to the hold if they see room for a couple of extra passengers. In most cases musical instruments are simply too fragile to be thrown around by handlers in the manner of your holiday suitcase. I’ve seen footage of matchstick fiddles and mangled trombones emerging on the carousel.
    I wish Andy all the best in recovering both instruments in one piece.

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    Jul 11th 2022, 11:26 PM

    @Liz O’Neill: I’m sorry but if I buy 2 extra seats for whatever it is I want them for, no airline staff is going to take the from me after I have paid for them , anyway hope he gets them back soon, must be heartbreaking

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    Jul 11th 2022, 5:36 PM

    A legend of a musician, I hope they turn up very soon.

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    Mute Sean McCarthy
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    Jul 11th 2022, 4:50 PM

    Dublin Airport really is a shambles, I read that a Pro Golfers clubs were missing in Dublin Airport at the weekend too.

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    Jul 11th 2022, 5:43 PM

    @Sean McCarthy: Did he lose the head?

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    Jul 11th 2022, 5:52 PM

    @Ciarán O’ Donoghue: they were putting the wrong plane

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    Jul 11th 2022, 8:24 PM

    @Sean McCarthy: the endless stories of missing baggage are terrible and not unique to. Dublin – photos of Heathrow and other airports with stacks of unclaimed luggage are truly shocking – these businesses thatbare responsible for travel services are all charhing full. Prices post pandemic but are constantly pointing to short staff numbers and finger pointing elsewhere – I bet they will all be reporting bumper profits and improved balance sheets this time next year despite not providing the service required – more should be done to pressure better services from providers – offering zero hour minimum wage contracts is not a soultion

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    Jul 11th 2022, 7:49 PM

    Terrible news. Hope he gets them back. All of us who follow Irish traditional music and folk music are in awe of Andy Irvine and what he has done for live music and Irish musician.

    Now I realise why aer Lingus are charging extra if u want to bring carry on luggage onto the plan. It used to be the opposite. As in u got charged for check in. But now the chances are so high they will loose your luggage they charge you knowing you’ll pay. Bit like the banks. They’ll never lose. Although with the price of fuel it’s going to be hard to maintain an airline.

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    Jul 11th 2022, 5:45 PM

    He must have had the insured but still …the Dublin Airport farce continues. I’m selling my Greencore shares with that guy in charge.

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    Jul 11th 2022, 9:55 PM

    Not travelling anywhere without dropping an Apple AirTag into checked in luggage now.

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    Jul 11th 2022, 5:36 PM

    Get him a violin and tell him to join the queue

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    Jul 11th 2022, 6:30 PM

    @John B: come up with that yourself?

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    Jul 11th 2022, 7:06 PM

    @John B: That’s a bit Stradivarius of you.

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    Jul 12th 2022, 10:14 AM

    It’s not enough to call the airlines and airports this and that. It would appear one or both are employing staff who are not trained correctly, and/or said staff are under incredible pressure causing these and other mistakes due to lack of staff. — Covid causing staff absense, and Covid responsible for the original staff redundancies. In short: Short Staffed? Give it a year??

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