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Opposition members have called for earlier dates for the review. LEAH FARRELL; RollingNews.ie

Opposition parties say pushing out Covid-19 emergency powers to November is a step too far

Stephen Donnelly has said he will amend the law so that a three-month extension in November is the only one permitted.

HEALTH MINISTER STEPHEN Donnelly has said he will propose to amend the Government’s emergency laws for Covid-19 restrictions to ensure that there are no “rolling powers” for extensions. 

His comments come as a number of Opposition parties have raised concerns about the extension of the emergency powers until November.

The laws provide for fines relating to travel restrictions and prohibit some events, including large gatherings of over 15 people, from taking place.

Under the Health Preservation Act 2020, the State can detain people to prevent the spread of Covid-19, requiring people to stay in their homes and require the wearing of face coverings.

Ministers also agreed to extend the Criminal Justice Enforcement Powers Act 2020.

It provides additional enforcement powers to the gardaí to address breaches by pubs of the Covid-19 regulations and to close them down temporarily where there is a refusal to comply.

Sinn Féin intends to put down amendments in the Dáil curtailing the emergency period to 9 July rather than 9 November. 

Labour’s Brendan Howlin told reporters this morning that his party has supported the legislation to date as it was necessary to protect public health.

“These are measures that we’d never normally support,” he said.

However, he said rather than November, the current legal framework should only be extended until September.

“Why we say September is that if the Dáil is on recess in the middle of July, something happens, the law hasn’t expired prior to that, to be able to deal with that.

“I think it’s reasonable to be able to say that all these powers will be gone in September. If there is a compelling health reason enduring beyond September, we should review that on a monthly basis and require a decision of the Dáil on a monthly basis,” said Howlin.

Meanwhile, People Before Profit said they would not be voting in favour of extension because of concerns around how gardaí use the powers to limit gatherings which are curtailing the right to protest, said TD Gino Kenny.

Speaking as part of the Rural Independents group, Tipperary TD Mattie McGrath said that extending restrictions until November and then potentially again until February, is a “three card trick”.

Independent Senator Alice-Mary Higgins pointed out yesterday in the Seanad that a clause contained in the legislation allowed for a series of resolutions to keep adding three-month extensions to the emergency powers, with no ultimate endpoint.

Donnelly said today that he had “reflected overnight”, and agreed that a firm endpoint is needed in the emergency legislation. 

While he said he would not be accepting the Opposition’s amendments on alernative review dates, he committed to bring a government amendment, subject to Cabinet approval, that would see just one three-month extension permitted after the proposed extension to November.

‘Draconian measures’

The health minister said the laws “don’t sit well with me”, admitting that they are “draconian”. 

He said he did not want to see them in place for any longer than they have to be, but that the public advice he has received is that the measures could be required into the late autumn or early December. 

His proposed amendment will ensure that there can only be one three-month extension in November, if required, though he said he hopes that such measures won’t be needed. 

Social Democrats co-leaders Roisin Shortall also expressed concerns about plans to extend the emergency powers today, pointing out that there has been no review of the powers, how they are used, and who has been impacted the most. 

If the extension is voted through, then the use of fines by gardaí will be built in to the extension until November, she said.

She suggested a shorter review period, proposing July as an appropriate time-scale for which a review can be done, and debate to be held on rolling over the powers.

Speaking to reporter at Leinster House, Shortall said that she sees no need for penal provisions given the level of compliance out there by the public.

She said the laws are “extremely wide-ranging” adding that it is “hard to see how they are warranted”.

Shortall said the government needed to explain the situation, present the public health advice as to why the extension to November is needed, stating that everyone is in the dark on the matter. 

“It is hard to see why they should be extended for a five month period,” she said this morning, adding that the public don’t understand the level of the powers. 

She highlighted that when there was messaging around cocooning of the elderly last year, many thought it was a penal provision, and were “terrified” to leave their homes. 

The government needs to be upfront with the public, she said.

Mandatory hotel quarantine 

Separately, the extension of the mandatory hotel quarantine system for a further three months will be voted on on Thursday.

Details around the reopening of international travel will also be announced on Friday.

Shortall, who was a strong advocate of mandatory hotel quarantine and in February called for hotel quarantine to apply to all inward travel, said she believes the system should continue in a “refined” version, stating “this stands to reason”. 

She said she hoped the government will be in a position to put the EU Green Cert into operation “as soon as possible”. If that is implemented, travel will be reopened for a significant amount of people, and people can travel “at ease”. 

She suspects the numbers looking to come into the country from areas with variants of concern will be “quite small” and therefore there will be some need for the hotel quarantine system. 

People are being cautious around booking holidays abroad, she said, adding that “we still need to be careful around international travel”. 

Following her comments this morning, Fianna Fáil senator Lisa Chambers hit out at Shortall stating just a few weeks ago she was calling for zero Covid and for “harsher and tougher restrictions”. 

“Now because that’s no longer popular they’ve completely flipped,” Chambers tweeted today.

Fianna Fáil’s James O’Connor tweeted Shortall’s position is “laughable”.

“The champions of zero-Covid strategy are now lecturing the government on restrictions. You cannot govern by sound bites. It’s a shame that Soc Dem supporters don’t accept that,” she said.

Fine Gael’s Charlie Flanagan said the position of Shortall was a “backward political somersault” and a “cartwheel flip-flop all rolled in to one”.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:22 PM

    We are all suffering not just the elderly

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:21 PM

    There will be more than the elderly suffering hardship if they put the price up.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:44 PM

    It’s not just the elderly, I’m renting at the moment and have a near 2 year old that I have to keep warm this winter. I’d wrap myself in a blanket to keep warm but she needs the heat. I cut down a huge amount last year, I limited myself to an hour a day on just to get a bit of heat into the place and piled on the clothes. The bills are high enough!!

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    Aug 11th 2013, 12:06 AM

    Nicola i got news for you the people that were elected to run this country could not give two fcuks about you and your child they do not care but they will tell you they do .

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    Aug 11th 2013, 12:47 AM

    Oh I know that quite well that’s why I didn’t vote for them to get in.

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    Aug 11th 2013, 1:32 AM

    Nicola you is a class act

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:39 PM

    Its a con, bord gais is being sold by the goverment. With higher prices it will sell for more. Everyone change company and the rise wont go ahead

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    Mute Sean Mac
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    Aug 10th 2013, 8:01 PM

    Change company all you like Bernard, Bord Gais still own the gas! If they higher the price of gas, Everyone has to pay.
    Change broadband company all you want, Eircom still own the telegraph lines etc.

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    Mute Marie Louise Ni Riain
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    Aug 10th 2013, 7:05 PM

    Love live my stove.
    My mother is elderly, a small pension of about 200e a week, telephone, food, esb,gas, home insurance, propert tax,yes she gets the fuel allowence of 20e a week, how many bails of bricketts is that 4!! She has oil central heating at approx 500e to fill tank, most elderly have worked and paid there taxes all there lives, and now been screwed by the state for every last penny,this government takes the piss

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    Mute Thomas Reagan
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    Aug 10th 2013, 7:15 PM

    She gets a minimum of €230 a week pension. Plus all the extras on top. What does she spend her money on? Maybe she should move to a smaller one bed place if she is having trouble heating her current property.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 7:59 PM

    Thomas, that’s nothing but a smart arsed reply, you want a woman who’s worked…..actually its not worth getting into an argument with the likes of you

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    Aug 10th 2013, 8:28 PM

    Thomas the c…

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    Aug 10th 2013, 8:47 PM

    Thomas your such a dick. Stop picking on everyone.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 9:27 PM

    I paid my gas bill last April and hadn’t paid it since September 2012. It was €300. We didn’t light the fire or have any other form of heating in the house.
    It’s a warm well insulated house but I don’t get when people say they can’t afford to heat theirs. It was only €150 each for the 8 months for the two of us.
    Loads of people get an extra €20 a week on their social welfare payments during the winter months.
    If you’re saving for a shopping trip in New York and a two week holiday in Santa Ponza you might struggle to pay your bills alright.

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    Aug 11th 2013, 12:11 AM

    Marie they do not give a flying fcuk about you or your family as long as the people keep watching RTE and keep listening to the media they are safe and their big pensions ,even tonight they are laughing at you .

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    Aug 11th 2013, 9:56 AM

    Thomas I believe north korea are looking for new members, maybe you and this government can go over and join them

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:51 PM

    If I recall jk Rowling she said she used to sit in a cafe and have a cup of coffee each hour and wrote harry potter, it was cheaper than heating her house while the kids were at school.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 7:00 PM

    It’s cheaper per hour to run your gas heater tan buy coffee

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    Aug 10th 2013, 7:17 PM

    Thomas, the amount of gas you emit in your comments would heat a whole city!

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    Aug 10th 2013, 7:19 PM

    Don’t feed the trolls

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    Aug 10th 2013, 8:19 PM

    Thomas the troll is a bored teenager. Leave him be.

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    Aug 11th 2013, 1:34 AM

    Yeah I’m the troll. The only person coming out with actual numbers, statistics and calculations to prove my point.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:33 PM

    Most of these people have worked hard all their lives, and if the least their getting is government grants, then so be it. They’ve done their duties for this country and deserve to be treated well. We’ll all get old someday and I’d hope we’d be looked after too.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 9:41 PM

    Yes I would agree with that sentiment.They deserve all the help the state can give in their twilight years.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:40 PM

    People who want the gas increased must be unintelligent & need to be re-educated! Shame on them.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:26 PM

    Keep an eye on your elder bro’ an sis’s, esp those living alone. While some may not like the direct approach of knocking on their door for privacy and safety reasons, try popping a note in their door saying who you are and where you live with a phone number and your close by to help. ;)

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    Aug 10th 2013, 7:31 PM

    Eh lads and ladies thomas the tank reagan is a super troll, just be advised dont read or reply to anything he says.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:16 PM

    How? They get their fuel bill paid for in their household benefits package. They are one segment of society that has been largely untouched.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:20 PM

    That’s Bull Sh1t Thomas

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:20 PM

    Do you think we should go around touching elderly people?

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:28 PM

    Still no sign of Bord Gais massively overpaid workers being asked to take a wage cut.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:38 PM

    They don’t get it paid in full

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:38 PM

    @thomas I’m sure you love your parents all the same

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:49 PM

    Get your facts straight before saying rent is zero!

    My 90 year old uncle has to pay rent!
    The only income he has is the pension! The benefits they do get have been cut, fuel, phone etc… He doesn’t use his phone but has to have the landline because its connected to his emergency alarm!
    Elderly people do not have it that easy! And they do not get their fuel bill paid for them, they get a fuel allowance, none in the summer months, and it doesn’t cover all their heating costs!

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:56 PM

    Louise what rent? Local authority rent? That’s peanuts. They get €520 a year fuel allowance which would cover my costs.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 7:19 PM

    Stop feeding the troll

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    Aug 10th 2013, 7:35 PM

    Fuel bill paid??? What planet are you living on? The elderly have lost money from HP in the last 3 budgets!

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    Aug 10th 2013, 7:37 PM

    They get €520 a year. That covers most of it. If they can’t cover it then the €1000 a month of pension should cover the rest easily.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 8:36 PM

    They do not get it paid for, they get but a small percentage paid, than they pay the out standing, research facts before you shout off Thomas

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    Aug 10th 2013, 9:03 PM

    My 76 year old mother pays 50€ a wk rent, 30 for gas and 14 for esb, she also has insurance, phone, food and her credit union also to pay out of her pension and im sure like everyone every wk there seems to be something else that needs to be paid, she raised 7 kids and worked full-time from the age of 13 till she reached retirement age, she can’t manage on her pension and it’s just lucky we have a big family and each give her 10€ a wk and one of my amazing nephews who is only 21 and gives his nanny 50€ a wk but not everyone has a good family.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 10:35 PM

    Yes there are many like your mother that had to go out at a very early age and start working. Especially in Families that would have lost their parents at a young age. In those days there was no other way. The eldest in the family had to take the role of the parent.The pension they are getting in some cases does not go far enough. Pension should be linked to inflation.Prices are going up but it seems that the pension is not.A lot of the pensioners were denied a full dedication because of family issues like a bereavement and they had to go and work to bring food home.In many cases they were the bread winners at a very early stage in their lives. They deserve all they are getting now and more.

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    Aug 11th 2013, 1:33 AM

    I totally agree Francis that pensions should track inflation. In 1997 the state pension was €99. Prices have increased by 48% since then which means the pension should be €146.

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    Aug 11th 2013, 11:17 AM

    How do you suggest pensioners live on that amount Thomas? As I’ve already said my mothers bills are: €50 a wk for rent, €30 for gas, €14 for esb, I’m not sure how much on food but I’m guessing at least €40-50 now that’s just the essentials, she now has to pay €10 a month for her prescription her.

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    Aug 11th 2013, 4:32 PM

    @Thomas “Yeah I’m the troll. The only person coming out with actual numbers, statistics and calculations to prove my point.”

    Makey uppy numbers don’t count as statistics.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 8:05 PM

    Once again the Elderly are being hit. Also people with young children who are way behind in their utility bill. Winter bills in Ireland can be very expensive because of harsh winters. The biggest bill is heating. Which ever source you use be it Gas . Electricity or Oil. They are all mighty expensive. The elderly need the heat because most of them cannot get around and one needs to move in the cold weather to keep warm. When there is an increase in Heating costs that should be taken into account. Up the allowance for the elderly with the increase to cushion the burden. On the other side of the coin we have many families with young children struggling also to meet utility bill. So hopefully the Government will take note.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 6:32 PM

    T.R you are a no 1
    A.H

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    Aug 10th 2013, 7:09 PM

    The elderly have more ability to pay this than the rest of us.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 8:10 PM

    It is said a lot of elderly are going without food to pay these bills. In order to understand their situation you have to be in their shoes .They would have been around when Taxes were very high and wages were not to good back in the 40s and fifties. So we must appreciate them and not take them for Granted. Like today many would have had to emigrate to get work like today there was no work in Ireland

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    Aug 10th 2013, 8:53 PM

    Shaun you and Thomas should go off and do brokeback mountain together and give us all a break.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 9:24 PM

    Why so? A senior citizen who doesn’t have an additional pensionn has 230 a week. Free travel. Medical card. No TV license. Heat allowance.

    Yes they need more heat than a younger person but they are in the main well looked after.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 8:59 PM

    Thomas have a w*nk while looking at your gas bill you need the release..

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    Aug 10th 2013, 7:37 PM

    The home allowance applies to either Electricity or Gas not to both, and has been reduced considerably by this present government. Generalising about elderly people and what they may or may not endure is assuming what we think might be , not what we know. Assume= ass/u//me.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 9:32 PM

    Elderly, and the families with childrens probably do not fit to new world order… so Gowernment trying to get rid of them. then they will have mostly people who working and and paying taxes, without getting benefits. And all the money goes to fat overseas boundholders…

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    Aug 10th 2013, 9:21 PM

    Will hurt working people as well

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    Aug 10th 2013, 9:28 PM

    @John – I agree. The elderly have spokespeople and good for them but this is hardship for the PAYE worker as well.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 11:48 PM

    I’ve had enough…passport quick!

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    Aug 11th 2013, 12:08 AM

    FG/L government are ripping us off with taxes that we are not really able to afford. They have bullied us into submission with taking these taxes out of our pensions, social welfare and salaries. The gas board have now taken a lead from them – bully the people as we did and there’ll be no problem getting your money. The gas increase is only the tip of the iceberg and is happening because of what we have allowed this government to get away with. The only solution is to take to the streets and demand the resignation of this government.

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    Aug 10th 2013, 11:13 PM

    They do this every year and we do nothing about it and we can’t every one should get a pre paid meter for free and but money in it in the summer time it would help a little bit

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    Aug 10th 2013, 11:38 PM

    Thats what I did!! ; )

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    Aug 11th 2013, 12:40 AM

    Its a disgrace the price of gas going up wages and social welfare cuts property tax and water charges on the way budget day in oct we are all gonna be fleeced a long cold winter on the way in its digraceful we dont have a chance serious hard times ahead for all
    But as usual we will sit on our arses and do nothing as usual

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    Aug 10th 2013, 10:41 PM

    We need another mass. .

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    Aug 11th 2013, 10:22 AM

    The reason for the rise is because the French company that was to buy it pulled out .. So the gas company want to up there income to entice company back in to buying..at our expense of course..

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    Aug 11th 2013, 11:34 AM

    I think the energy regulator should find there balls and speak out-
    Oh wait of course they won’t cause there in bed with them – when have they ever spoken out , I can’t recall

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    Aug 10th 2013, 10:22 PM

    ‘Wont someone think of the CEO’S!!’

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    Aug 11th 2013, 12:29 AM

    just another rip off,if its not gas is expensive to buy on the open market we now have its expensive to transport it to ireland….esb will piggy back on this guarateed price rise and yes it is guaranteed as the energy regulator has never refused a price rise and bearing in mind he is there to protect the customer….well in 2015 we will have an additional price rise to look forward to as water bills will increase in year 1 as it to will use the same excuse as electricity companies use to increase their prices only were the electrical companies blame their increase on the price of fuel ie gas we will have irish water looking for an increase on the double as they will use the excuse that energy used to produce clean has increased ie gas and electricity….

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    Aug 11th 2013, 10:36 AM

    My post has just been deleted..so much for freedom of speech the journal.ie.. Me no likey no more..bye bye.

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