@Ger: cool quote from the big bang theory….vitamin d deficiency has been known to be the single biggest predictor of a poor covid outcome, vitamin c in very high doses can drastically reduce the duration of the virus.
30g of vitamin c per day and you’ll speed up recovery, from personal experience.

@Dan Broderick: 30g of Vitamin C??!! How many tubes of tablets is that?? Nevermind the cost!!

@simon Barr: wow why didnt anyone think of that ? You should get onto the most educated medical experts on the planet working on this and let them know!

@Dan Broderick: so was your “personal experience” reviewed by a doctor or a virologist who concluded that the supplements “sped up your recovery” or did you just get over it relatively quickly and decide on your own that it must have been the Vit C?

Prof Luke O’Neill recommends extra Vitamin D. He says if you have a well balanced diet, taking vitamin c is probably a waste of time.

@simon Barr: You need about 40mg of vitC a day which you get from s half decent diet, taking larger doses is pointless as your body can;t store it. As for vitD you need about 100 micrograms, sunlight and a decent diet will give you all that. Zinc unless you’re a vegan you will also get enough from your diet.Also you need to be careful if you have a healthy diet and take a zinc supplement you can run into all sorts of health issues. Couple that with the fact that there is no evidence that any of those help with covid and yeah! you just end up with expensive pee.

@simon Barr: Pfizer can’t make money from them would be the biggest barrier to their widespread use. Also, while Vit D has been shown to improve outcomes from the disease, the effect is likely an order of magnitude smaller than clinically developed medications. Very little discussion on Obesity either, which is the biggest factor in predicting the impacts of Covid on a population level (alongside age).

@Kevin Kilcoyne: Both Centrum and Alacer are owned by Pfizer, so yes, they do make money from them. I think it’s about a dozen or so corporations that own nearly all the health supplement brands out there,

@Dan Broderick: 30 grams of vitamin C?? The safe upper limit is about 2 grams! Just as well I don’t take medical advice from the comments section of TheJournal, and if I were you I’d stop taking medical advice from wherever it is you’re getting it from.

@simon Barr: quick get the elderberries before the birds have them ate. (Loads of Vit C)

@Conor Farrell: there is no upper limit for vitamin c, >10g can result in a laxative effect if taken over a short space of time, but your body gives enough feedback before that happens. If your body is fighting an infection, it will utilise far more vitamin c than usual….mega doses of vitamin c have been used my many people for a long time now.
Who knows, maybe it’s just a placebo effect but I’ve probably researched it more than anybody else on this thread.

@Dan Broderick: As you have researched it more than anyone else you would know that our bodies are configured to keep vitamin C levels within a particular range… As you take in more vitamin C, the amount you absorb from each dose goes down. Then once it is absorbed and goes in the blood, there are proteins on the cell that bring vitamin C into the tissue, and those proteins can’t work any faster. Then the excess vitamin C is excreted through the kidneys in urine. So mega doses only bring the levels in the tissues to the same as an RDA dose. I think it is a sort of placebo. Granted I still take mega doses when sick as it will do no harm, but I dont treat it as a cure or something that prevents you getting sick.
Vit D is a different story and I definitely dont get sick as often or for as long when regularly taking it.

@Dan Broderick: completely agree

@Ger: In the latest study, published in July 2021, researchers enrolled 191 COVID patients and 203 healthy individuals and found that 84.4% of the patients were deficient in vitamin D

@Crypto S. Crazii: What’s your opinion on the case in Donegal then?

@Bert Carolan: I think you’ll find that foolishness is not exclusive to either group. Humans makes bad decisions irrespective of vaccination status. Are you saying that all vaccinated people = pillars of society?

@Bert Carolan: I don’t have an opinion on it particularly. Foolish people will make poor choices regardless of whether they’re vaccinated or not.

@Crypto S. Crazii: Wow! That’s some curiosity you have there to be sure. I was beginning to take you seriously until the latter half of your comment. I seem to have touched a raw nerve resulting in a somewhat paranoid and defensive conclusion to it. Of course I couldn’t resist the temptation to squeeze in the ‘bitter pill’ reference. Sometimes humour is the only weapon left when reason and logic fails. ‘Anti-vaxxers’ albeit lazy shorthand is an apt description for people holding certain attitudes and views specifically in relation to Covid vaccines. Speaking of humour, if they ever develop a pill for that maybe you should consider taking it…

@Crypto S. Crazii: lol, thinking that using the term “anti-vaxxers” is due to “propaganda”. Sweetheart, there have been anti-vaxxers for centuries. Grow up.

@William Tallon: It’s absolutely not an apt description. You’ll likely find that most people who are ‘Anti-vax’ as you describe them are in fact not against vaccination at all! Just this one.. So to label people as such, promotes an agenda because its simply not true.
I wouldn’t go as far as saying, touched a raw nerve, but I am disappointed by the deliberate blanket ridiculing that seems to have become normal across the board.
In addition, if what you posted passes as humour for you, barrel scraping is obviously something that comes natural for you.

@Drunk in Dublin: Centuries? Give me a break!
Anti-vaxxer promotes the idea of somebody that is completely against ALL vaccines. This is not the case here for 99.9% of people that have concerns regarding THIS vaccine. But don’t let that get in the way of you painting them as crazy people.

@Bert Carolan: whoever convinced that man to leave the hospital only to be readmitted and die needs to be held to account … I’m being cautious with my words .

@Crypto S. Crazii: Judging by your response I definitely would go so far as saying I’ve touched a raw nerve! It’s almost adolescent in its defensiveness. What people consider humour is obviously down to individual taste and so one person’s barrel scrapings can be another’s source of amusement. In your case though you seem to be a particularly humourless person, which is obviously something that comes naturally to you…

@William Tallon: Can you explain to me your idea of adolescent defensiveness? And remember in your answer that you’re the one defending your jibe as “source of amusement”. Your attempt at being clever is weak..

@Crypto S. Crazii: QED…

@Terry Cahill: I would agree but I can’t see it happening. There is a lot involved here, right to receive information, right to make your own decisions, general rights of the individual.
Very few people would argue that individuals and groups should not be given access to a public platform to desiminate views encouraging violence towards minority groups. Yet there are groups who advocate views that can lead to people’s I’ll health and in this case death. Should these groups have a public platform ie social media?
What I can say for certain is that this case was a genuine tragedy.

@Crypto S. Crazii: This vaccine has saved millions of lives. While the vaccinated may not always be pillars of society, Anti-vaxxers are dangerous irresponsible people who care little for the health of others and society in general. They tend to be ‘please notice me- Im not a sheeple, I’m different’ types who get their news from FB. I haven’t heard of anyone i know dying from a covid vaccine. No bodies on the street as predicted. Yet 90% of people I know are vaccinated.

@Paul Whitehead: You’re making a lot of assumptions based on what you see and hear from others. The Times reported on Sunday https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e9779472-1e4a-11ec-9699-f7cb5224a0e1?shareToken=700d7b4b95a1c810554a6efe2d6b1fee
that 186 people in Beaumont hospital (including nurses & clinicians – one of which I know personally & speak to regularly) have refused the vaccine.
Do these people sound like the dangerous irresponsible people who care little for the heath of others for which you describe with such vigour and disgust? Do these fit the FB demographic you call out?
You see, it’s easy to throw out sweeping assertions that fit your bias and serve to make monsters of otherwise rational people. ‘Anti-vaxxer’ should not be used for people who have made a ‘personal choice’.