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Calls for greater vigilance of alcohol sales ahead of Leaving Cert results

Parents have been reminded of the influential they can play in guiding their children’s drinking behaviour by leading by example, discussing the topic of alcohol openly, setting out clear rules for them.

AN APPEAL FOR greater vigilance in the trade of alcohol to young adults has been launched by drinkaware.ie ahead of the release of Leaving Certificate results this Wednesday.

Those selling alcohol have been reminded to always check ID and serve only those over 18 years of age.

Parents have also been reminded of the influential and supportive roles they can play in guiding their children’s drinking behaviour by leading by example, discussing the topic of alcohol openly, setting out clear rules and the reasons for them.

The group says there has been an improvement since 2007 in the access to alcohol among students, with an 11 per cent decrease in 16-year-olds saying that it is “easy or very easy” to access alcohol in Ireland However, according to the 2011 European School Survey Project on Alcohol and Other Drugs research, the perceived availability of alcohol in Ireland amongst 16-year-olds remains above the European average.

Speaking about the research Fionnuala Sheehan, Chief Executive of drinkaware.ie, said:

The 2011 ESPAD research points to the need for greater vigilance by both on and off trade licensees in Ireland as many Leaving Cert students plan to celebrate their achievement in the next few days. Not all Leaving Cert students are of legal drinking age and a significant percentage of Irish 16 year olds reported purchasing alcohol in both on and off trade premises in the 2011 ESPAD research.
The good news is that there is a 23 per cent reduction in underage drinking in Ireland, with 50 per cent of 16 year olds reporting alcohol use ‘during the last 30 days’ in Ireland in 2011, versus the 73 per cent recorded in ESPAD 2003.

The research examined, for the first time, how much alcohol was purchased by 16-year-olds in bars or discos (ie in the ‘on trade’) and in shops (the ‘off-trade’. It found:

  • 37 per cent of the Irish respondents said they had purchased alcohol in a pub or disco in the last 30 days
  • 26 per cent of the Irish respondents said they had purchased alcohol in a shop in the last 30 days
  • In Ireland, these figures were lower than the European average of 37 per cent for shop purchases, and 45 per cent for on trade purchases

“Considering the responses by Irish students to the perceived availability of alcohol, drinking in the last 30 days, and where alcohol was purchased, the data suggests that much of the alcohol consumed by Irish teens is also accessed in the home, in friends’ homes or bought for them by someone else,” said Sheehan. “Parents clearly are very important role models for their children.”

The National Parents Council of Ireland is providing a free Leaving Cert Helpline. The helpline number is Freephone 1800 265165.

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    Mute Petr Tarasov
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    Aug 13th 2012, 6:52 AM

    We used to wait outside the offie and ask strangers to go in for us. Someone always did! There’s no way I’d do that for someone under age now….

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    Mute John Ryan
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    Aug 13th 2012, 7:08 AM

    I used to raid the parents drink cabinet and make an old fisherman’s f#%k.

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    Mute Ann-Marie Wallis
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    Aug 13th 2012, 7:27 AM

    I was the exact same, John….even in my house with two non-drinking parents (strangely, we always had drink in the house, I assume it was for visitors). Looking back I cringe at my teenage drink habits.

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    Aug 13th 2012, 9:51 AM

    most leaving cert students are 18 and can buy drink for the students who are under 18

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    Mute Petr Tarasov
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    Aug 13th 2012, 10:48 AM

    Do people still make dolly mixtures?

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    Mute Simon Power
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    Aug 13th 2012, 7:56 AM

    How many 16 year olds are getting their Leaving Cert results? I would have thought every group in that demograph would have a person over 18 to buy as much booze as they liked. I don’t think you are going to be able to make a quantum cultural shift in the space of 2 weeks…

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    Mute Tertullian
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    Aug 13th 2012, 8:08 AM

    Drinkaware.ie is merely a PR figleaf for the alcohol industry whose purveyors – the publicans and of the off-licence trade- do their level best to sell as much alcohol as possible to as many people as possible and to hell with the consequences.

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    Mute Michele Kealy
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    Aug 13th 2012, 8:09 AM

    and whats worse …the papers are always ready to shoot an ugly scene on the night ! …cringing times ahead…..

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    Mute Conor Hickey
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    Aug 13th 2012, 8:23 AM

    The rule is: If you are 18 or over, you are allowed purchase alcohol.
    If you don’t like it, change the rule.

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    Mute Continent Simian
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    Aug 13th 2012, 8:48 AM

    The problem isn’t adults purchasing alcohol. The problem is adults abusing alcohol.

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    Mute Conor Ó Ruanaidh
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    Aug 13th 2012, 8:28 AM

    We should behave more like the US by carding everyone regardless if the cashiers believes your old enough. My mother got carded once in Oregon when she was 48 and felt great about herself!! That way everyone it’s harder. I looked 18 when I was 15 and bought alcohol in the offie all the time for me and my mates. And the bigger problem is not adults buying the alcohol but the friend who is 18 buying it for those underage. Everyone does it. Make an example and fine the bejaysus of a few 18 year olds buying for 16 year olds.

    Niteclubs too are letting in underagers on Friday and Sunday nights, nights less buy where if they were strict on age, no one would be in the place. As a teacher if i’m ever out in my local the fiddlers (the one refusing tap water), I see students from someas young as 2nd year to 5th years and it’s packed to the rafters with them from the three schools in the town. And to prove it, all these underage students are on the facebook photos their photographer takes.

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    Mute Ben Gunn
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    Aug 13th 2012, 8:36 AM

    Your mother was lucky. I claimed a senior citizens discount entry to Fota Island the other day and no one asked me to prove my age. Very demoralising!

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    Aug 13th 2012, 8:59 AM

    48 Year old getting mistaken as under 21??? No offense to your Mother but I wouldn’t believe that if I born yesterday..

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    Aug 13th 2012, 9:03 AM

    @Ben are you a senior citizen if not why are you claiming it and then feeling demoralised for getting it?

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    Aug 13th 2012, 9:16 AM

    @ Chris Lynch. I don’t think Connor was saying that his mother got mistaken for under 21. Its just the law in America. I’ve seen old men in their 50′s and 60′s get asked for ID when buying cigarettes in the states. It also has something to do with the age of the person serving them too.

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    Aug 13th 2012, 9:54 AM

    i know people over there who have been caught out by that rule. IDing people who are clearly old enough to have kids old enough to buy drink is over the top!

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    Aug 13th 2012, 10:00 AM

    I seen a pensioner get asked for I.d. in the states. I think the law is different there, it’s not the pub that has the license but the barman himself and he’ll lose his license and his job if he sells to an underage person. That’s why they’re so strict.

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    Aug 13th 2012, 10:16 AM

    actually we were on holidays in tge states when i was 13 or so and it was well into the 30s in terms of temperature so my dad asked me to get him a drink of orange juice from the bar beside the pooland the guy refused to serve me because i was under 21! what kind of place refuses to serve non alcoholic drinks when the temperature is that high?? god help you if you were dehydrated and in need of water (before u say tap water we had been told not to drink the tap water!)

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    Aug 13th 2012, 9:17 AM

    Forget about stopping them from drinking on Wednesday night, it is a right of passage, focus on insuring their safety instead and I hope they have a great night.

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    Mute JP SHERRY
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    Aug 13th 2012, 8:38 AM

    I can drink responsibly, must everything be ruined by the few.

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    Mute Ben Gunn
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    Aug 13th 2012, 10:25 AM

    @Chris, of course I am, have been for 2 years. Why else would I claim the discount?? Do you understand irony or are you an American?

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    Aug 13th 2012, 9:01 AM

    Funny how most posters above, all got their drink when underage, through someone they knew, a stranger or by looking old enough and are now saying what should be done to stop it from happening.

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    Mute Damocles
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    Aug 13th 2012, 9:50 AM

    Poacher turned gamekeeper.

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    Mute Ben Gunn
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    Aug 13th 2012, 11:05 AM

    For once I agree with you. It is the culture that needs to change, not the law.

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    Mute Rob
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    Aug 13th 2012, 7:55 AM

    We live in a nanny state. Instead of calling for this, why not impose a minimum price on alcohol AND raise the drinking age to 20? This would significantly reduce the perception of age profiling by drinkaware.ie

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    Aug 13th 2012, 9:31 AM

    What would that do?

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    Aug 13th 2012, 9:35 AM

    So are you proposing a ‘mammy’ state then?

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    Aug 13th 2012, 10:49 AM

    I think we should have a Cool Uncle state.

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    Aug 13th 2012, 2:39 PM

    If they want it, they will get it , at all ages.

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    Mute Conor Ó Ruanaidh
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    Aug 13th 2012, 11:17 AM

    Chris everyone gets carded in the US regardless of age. They even have books at cashier counters with accepted ID’s of every nationality e.g. passport, driving licence and age cards. Nothing else will work in most places.

    And yes I did drink. Not a lot but some. Most times I did was in my own home with my parents. They were of the opinion if I’m going to drink then it will be in front of them. Most of my classmates went out knacker drinking as large groups, bought drink easily and got off their faces, kicking wing mirrors off cars, fighting and breaking windows. Each year in school has groups that do this.

    I wouldn’t care what age the drinkers are. If someone is 15 and drinks two drinks and thats it I’d much prefer it to a 25 year drunk who fights every night. It’s not even the underage drinking thats the problem. It’s when people underage drink it involved a large group of teenagers drinking in areas and people are intimidated when they see them causing trouble. That is where the problem is.

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    Mute Sean Kelleher
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    Aug 13th 2012, 12:06 PM

    Why do we always have to Pass the blame to the off licences, the government, and the adult muppets that go in an purchase alcohol for teenagers?? Should we not be addressing the other issues that teenagers want to drink ? Like low self esteem, dysfunctional family systems, social inclusion, social and financial depravation and dare I say it? The ‘monkey see monkey do ‘ Irish mentality? How can we teach or children not to abuse alcohol when we do it every weekend ourselves? With them watching on?

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    Mute Caroline Locke
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    Aug 14th 2012, 2:04 AM

    Children should never ever be allowed in pubs for a start.

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