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Five friends from Kildare at the Button Factory test event last week. Sam Boal/Rollingnews.ie

Nightclubs seeking guarantee they'll be at 100% capacity for the big reopening

The department says there are “positive” signs due to vaccination rates but a final decision still needs to be taken.

NIGHTCLUB PROMOTERS ARE calling for the government to confirm that the 22 October reopening is set to go ahead without capacity restrictions. 

The October bank holiday weekend is set to see nightclubs reopen for the first time in 19 months following almost 590 nights of closure due the Covid-19 pandemic. 

Last week, a pilot nightclub event supported by the Department of Tourism and Culture was held in the Button Factory in Dublin with a 60% capacity crowd. 

Antigen testing was also required of all those in attendance at the venue with the department stating that contact details of those in attendance was also taken. 

On 22 October all remaining Covid-19 restrictions are scheduled to be lifted, including requirements for social distancing, indoor mask-wearing and limits on numbers at events. It is also planned that entry requirements such as vaccination certs or testing will be removed.  

Just over two weeks out from that date, promoters are reporting a huge demand for the events they organise for nightclubs, with many events already sold out. 

Buzz O’Neill-Maxwell, who promotes four club nights across Dublin, says all his events for the bank holiday weekend are sold out but that there’s “huge panic” amongst promoters that there’ll be restricted numbers, with the government not yet confirming it will be full capacity. 

“While whatever guidance might be there from Fáilte Ireland for the venues, for actual promoters and the people that are organising the nights there’s nothing, it’s a joke at this stage,” he tells The Journal

What we want absolutely is a guarantee that on 22 October we’ll be opening with 100% capacity.

He adds that, if it were to be the case that capacity wasn’t full,  tickets to be refunded and resold based on smaller numbers. 

Previously, the National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) and government have either signed off on reopening plans or put the brakes on a week in advance of a planned date. 

In a statement to The Journal, the department said that the vaccination target set as a requirement for the final stage of reopening has been met but that a final decision must be taken under public health advice. 

“The plan states that, based on the criteria of at or close to 90% of people 16 and over being fully vaccinated and having regard to the incidence and behavior of the disease at that time, the government will remove further statutory restrictions in respect of events and activities from 22 October,” the department said.

The target vaccination rate has already been met which is positive in terms of lifting restrictions on schedule.  Government will meet in advance of 22 October and will consider the available public health advice as part of its decision-making process.

O’Neill-Maxwell says it is a case of the sooner-the-better for promoters and that a week’s notice would be “of absolutely no use” if there are to be limits on capacity. 

He added that any learnings from last week’s 60% capacity test event should be shared with the industry. 

The test event was hosted by promoters Hidden Agenda and District 8 in consultation with nightlife campaign group Give us the Night. 

“They put that pilot event in place four to six weeks ago. And to be honest they’ve been talking to those promoters that were running it for months,” O’Neill-Maxwell says.

The government couldn’t be seen to be running a test pilot event at full capacity, and I understand that, I get that. But what’s come out of that now? What’s the great finding and do they care to share that with us?
The department described last week’s pilot event as “an important step” but that it “must continue monitor the ongoing risk from Covid-19 and manage the risk both individually and collectively”.
It added: “The department will be working with the event management team and health and safety consultants from the night-club pilot in the coming days to review all aspects of the pilot to see what learnings can be taken from the event and shared with the sector.”
Publicans

For its part the Licensed Vintners Association (LVA), which represents publicans, says it expects all restrictions to be lifted on 22 October and that its members should operate on that basis. 

“They’re eager to go so I would expect that the vast majority will open on 22 October. We’re not looking for any guidelines, we’re not calling for them because we are hoping and expecting that it would be a full unrestricted opening. That it would be normal, pre-Covid late bar and nightclub trade,” LVA chief executive Donall O’Keeffe told The Journal

Overall, O’Keeffe says publicans are “very optimistic” about the reopening of the sector because they’ve seen the strong demand in places like London and Belfast when nightlife returned in those cities. 

Despite this, the LVA is seeking a six-month waiver on special exemption orders, which cost nightclubs €410 per night and permit the sale and consumption of alcohol beyond normal trading hours. 

O’Keeffe says the waiver would give nightclubs the “best chance of a successful reopening” as they are already struggling with the extended closure and issues with getting staff. 

“Outside of the financial impact of closure, the biggest issue now is getting enough decent skilled staff to reopen a business that’s been closed for so long. This is the entire hospitality sector, not just pubs, hotels and restaurants,” he says. 

The late bar and nightclub guys have the distinct disadvantage of being the last to open, so lots of their staff have migrated on and gone on to working for other elements of the industry.

“They have a little bit of notice, as in we’ve had this day 22 October for a long time, so hopefully they’re in the process of training teams now and getting ready, but staffing is the single biggest issue facing the industry.”

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    Aug 12th 2014, 4:15 PM

    The screws should contain a reference or batch number so it should make it easier for them to identify him.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 6:06 PM

    I was just thinking that ann..
    If we can figure this out why can’t forensics ??

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    Mute SeekingUniverslTruth
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    Aug 12th 2014, 6:30 PM

    Forensics are a bunch of amateurs be it in accountancy or crime.

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    Mute Dominic Hearns
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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:26 PM

    Ha, everyone’s an expert !!!!! Do ye think the Guards are eegits needing your advice on how to investigate these type of crimes.
    Ah, Ye’re listening to too much of that Wilson/ Mc Cabe crap.
    Leave it to the experts.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:28 PM

    “Leave it to the experts.” lmao

    the sophie tuscan du plantier et al experts i it?

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:33 PM

    Screws don’t have reference or batch numbers, only implants or prostheses, so it’s unlikely to be much help.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:38 PM

    The operation that the guy had was a major one. the exact procedure is in a database somewhere along with his personal details. It’s not rocket science.

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    Mute Joe Harbison
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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:42 PM

    No such database exists outside HIPE, it would be in breach of the data protection act. He had craniotomy so performed which is about the most frequent op the Neurosurgeons do. They’d probably have to do a chart trawl unless the characteristics of the case ring some bells locally. They’ve probably asked in Beaumont and Cork.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:55 PM

    Not rocket science , biology :)

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    Mute Dominic Hearns
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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:59 PM

    So, do you have some expert advice on this one ??? Whose right or wrong ? Maybe we’re all gobdaws on this one too, or, you have other really really valuable evidence to suggest that the GARDAI are totally off the wall, or maybe you’re just the average Mail reader !! Get with the programme.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 12:04 AM

    the daily mail is the the daily garda

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    Aug 13th 2014, 4:51 AM

    Screws do have reference numbers every last one of them from ones for your fingers to ones for your head and reference/batch numbers are recorded in medical charts and can be used to identify.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 6:19 AM

    No, they do not.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 7:24 AM

    Looks like a job for Gil Grissom

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    Aug 13th 2014, 8:41 AM

    Elaine if they can they will.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 4:18 PM

    They should have his identity already. A search of the neurological databases in Irish and european hospitals will do it.

    Can i bypass templemore and go straight to interpol?

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    Aug 12th 2014, 8:41 PM

    No cause you sent your vetting form to the Phoenix park , and a monkey ate it….

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    Aug 12th 2014, 10:02 PM

    i didn’t send it, the desk sargeant did:-)

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:37 PM

    No database I’m afraid. Every patient registry in Ireland needs an individual act of the Oireachteas, that was established when the national cancer registry was created. The could do an individual chart check but it would take forever. More sensible to release details to the general public and see what turns up.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:41 PM

    sorry that doesn’t wash,

    There are less than ten neurologists in this country, of them only a couple would do an operation like this guy had and they would remember doing an op like the one this guy had.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:47 PM

    Sorry, they probably do a craniotomy on the majority of cases they see, it’s just a hole in the skull. I’m sure they’ve checked with Beaumont. There are actually closer to 25 neurologists in the country, but they don’t do craniotomies, Neurosurgeons do. There are 7 or 8 of them in Beaumont but I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t remember an individual case they did a few years ago.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 12:06 AM

    i’m pretty sure a neurologist would remember the names of all his patients who had teir skulls opened by him.

    Shouldn’t you be doing something constructive in the barracks, like paperwork.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 12:10 AM

    *sergeant

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    Aug 13th 2014, 8:47 AM

    You wouldn’t be able for it. Best your type stay safe behind the keyboard .

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    Aug 13th 2014, 8:52 AM

    No seeking you wouldn’t be able for it. Your type are better staying safe behind the keyboard. Mind yourself now x

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    Aug 13th 2014, 9:05 AM

    And the possibility that this work could have been done in another country, (very likely ) hasn’t crossed your mind.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 4:24 PM

    Nidge is after getting Tommy clipped and chopped up!

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    Aug 12th 2014, 3:50 PM

    A good lead so, won’t need to go out on a limb to solve this one.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 4:17 AM

    I’m pretty sure the Gards do actually know how to do their job! Love all the Sharky and George style comments though!

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    Aug 12th 2014, 5:55 PM

    1998 Hide & Seek champion..

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    Aug 12th 2014, 7:50 PM

    Hi Paul, thanks for your input but lets not confuse a scandal of the 50′s with what is most probably the discovery of a criminal found in a rubbish dump. Even you should realise that its a bloody stupid comparison.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:42 PM

    Heard you the first time, Tony.

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    May 16th 2016, 3:41 PM

    Mark was not a criminal

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    Aug 12th 2014, 7:10 PM

    Looks like the work of Tony Soprano

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    Aug 12th 2014, 5:56 PM

    Maybe its Enda Kenny – hes got a few screws loose

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    Aug 12th 2014, 6:27 PM

    Tony
    An appalling murder that ended the life of a young man provides you with a platform to make a sick joke about the body being that of the Taoiseach. At first I just thought you suffered from a complete absence of any social filter but now I’m convinced your intellectual development suffered an irreversible collapse some time ago!

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    Aug 12th 2014, 6:37 PM

    As did your humour development Richard.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 7:07 PM

    Richard
    Common sense would suggest that somebody who is found in a rubbish dump was no pillar of society by any stretch of the imagination. My social filter and intellectual development however remain intact although one must add that the Taoiseach and his army of baboons are presently working hard to change that.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 7:25 PM

    Richard is correct about it being an appalling murder, and the deceased deserves more respect than Tony’s comment indicates. Of course Richard ignored earlier disrespectful comments that made light of this murder, choosing only to comment on a wry observation that Kenny has a few screws loose, which leads me to think Richards moral compass only points to Enda.
    Tony, you should reflect on what you said in light of the mother and baby home scandal where innocents were interred in cess pits.
    Sick puppy.

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    Aug 12th 2014, 7:50 PM

    Hi Paul, thanks for your input but lets not confuse a scandal of the 50′s with what is most probably the discovery of a criminal found in a rubbish dump. Even you should realise that its a bloody stupid comparison.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 4:22 AM

    I’m pretty sure the Guards do actually know how to their jobs! Love all the Sharky and George style comments though!

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    Aug 13th 2014, 8:00 AM

    I’d say the cops have a fair idea who this could be….I think they do a very good job the majority of the time…there’s twits/bad apples in every large organisation!

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    Aug 12th 2014, 8:36 PM

    Frankenstein?

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    Aug 12th 2014, 11:31 PM

    Screws either side of his head?? Holy shit, I know who it is!!! http://finnishfoodgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/frankenstein.jpg

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    Aug 13th 2014, 7:28 AM

    Job done

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    Aug 13th 2014, 2:47 AM

    Well I hope, at least, that the female sargeant that admitted she didn’t know how to read a map on the Tynan case in portarlington a couple of weeks ago was not allowed near this. Or any other upcoming case for that matter. There’s an excuse for cutbacks but there’s no excuse for incompetency.

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    Aug 13th 2014, 12:44 PM

    Garda are down in the dumps over this!

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    Aug 13th 2014, 8:49 AM

    It’s Frankenstein’s monster. There should be a pair of nuts and bolts lying around there too.

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