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Still 'a long way' to go to reach resolution on Northern Ireland Protocol, Frost warns

The Brexit Minister will hold talks with European Commission vice-president Maros Sefcovic in Brussels today.

THERE IS STILL “a long way to go” to reach resolution on the contentious Northern Ireland Protocol, Brexit minister David Frost has warned ahead of a meeting with his EU counterpart.

The UK Cabinet minister will hold talks with European Commission vice-president Maros Sefcovic in Brussels today as the two sides prepare to embark on a fresh round of negotiations on the post-Brexit Irish Sea trading mechanisms.

On Wednesday, the EU tabled a range of proposals aimed at cutting the red tape the arrangements have imposed on moving goods from Great Britain to Northern Ireland.

However, the plan did not address a key UK demand – the removal of the European Court of Justice’s oversight function in the operation of the protocol.

Ahead of the lunch meeting in Brussels, Frost told Politico that the UK is studying the EU proposals “constructively”.

“Clearly they have proposed some changes; we do need to understand that detail, and we’ve begun that conversation, but there’s quite a long way to go,” he said.

Responding to claims that the UK is trying to tear up an international treaty, including allegations from former chief Downing Street adviser Dominic Cummings that it was always the intention to ditch the protocol, Frost said the UK Government knew some elements of the arrangements would “possibly be difficult to make work in practice” and they were always viewed as “a little bit provisional and open to review”.

He insisted movement on the ECJ is needed.

“They will need to if we are to find a solution, there needs to be significant change if we are to get an agreed solution.”

Rejecting a claim that the UK is acting in bad faith, the Brexit minister added: “Obviously the protocol was agreed at a particular moment. We knew that some elements of the protocol would possibly be difficult to make work in practice, and some aspects of it were left open for the discussions in 2020 and afterwards.

“I don’t think it’s surprising that we found that that was the case … the very fact that the protocol has a consent mechanism (in the Stormont Assembly) in it for four years’ time showed we recognised that it might be necessary to renew or otherwise consent for these arrangements.

“In that sense they have always been a little bit provisional and open to review.”

Sefcovic has said the EU has stretched itself to offer far-reaching compromises but insisted he has no mandate to renegotiate the protocol.

“Now we should really do the last mile, work constructively with all the proposals we put on the table, put it finally to bed,” he told BBC Northern Ireland’s The View programme last night.

“I believe that we could be in the home stretch with our proposals on the table, and, as I said, let’s try to solve all these issues before Christmas because I think that would be the best Christmas gift we can give to the people of Northern Ireland.”

He added: “I have no mandate to renegotiate the protocol … the Withdrawal Agreement, protocol and trade and co-operation agreement, we signed it, we ratified it, it’s international law, and I think we should respect it.”

Suspending parts of protocol

Frost has warned the UK could move to suspend parts of the protocol, by triggering the Article 16 mechanism, if an acceptable compromise cannot be reached.

However, such a move could prompt retaliatory action on trade from the EU.

Amid reports that certain EU leaders are considering the form of potential retaliatory action, DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson said he hopes member states are not considering a trade war.

“I don’t know the extent to which this is posturing on the part of some of the EU member states in advance of the negotiations but bear in mind that the EU has a massive trading surplus with the UK,” he told Times Radio.

“They sell far more goods into our country than we sell to them. We are a market of 60 million, the second largest market in Europe. Are those countries, especially the smaller member states, seriously saying they don’t want to sell us goods anymore, that they want a trade war? I would hope that isn’t the case.

“I can’t see how it’s in their interest to do that and what we need now is to focus on the negotiations. We’re not contemplating failure, we want to see success. But we are clear that if the EU does not step up and be reasonable in reaching an accommodation, then we do expect that the UK Government will take steps to protect the integrity of its own market.”

Donaldson was also pressed on the claim that Boris Johnson signed up to an agreement he knew he was going to break.

“I have no knowledge of that,” the DUP leader told Times Radio.

“That has certainly never been said to me and I was very much involved at that time. We were in a confidence and supply arrangement with the Government.

“At no stage did any Government minister including the Prime Minister say to me what you have described.”

The DUP leader also indicated the party’s threat to collapse powersharing at Stormont if changes to the protocol are not secured still stands.

“Our position is clear,” he said.

“I hope we can get a solution, but we are not going to continue implementing something that harms Northern Ireland.”

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    Mute Micheal OLainn
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    Dec 22nd 2016, 8:14 PM

    Apollo House is a short term solution and a longer term solution is required.

    Apollo House has re-ignited outrage over homelessness.

    Others will fill the vacancies.

    If you can afford to donate, here is the online link.

    https://www.gofundme.com/home-sweet-home-ireland

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 10:10 PM

    @Scarlett Milton: There would be no stunts needed if the government took its sworn duty to look after ALL the citizens of the country in a serious manner. It was FG who brought the eviction bill before the Dail and backed it up with the Courts (2016) Bill. This along with its neo-liberal love for market economics, that makes a commodity for profit out of all human need, is what caused the homeless epidemic.
    Brendan Ogle, is a first rate organiser, a leader, who can bring people together in common cause. He has used his energies to do something positive to help and highlight the homeless epidemic in the country. Dame Enda, has done diddly squat, nothing, except to legislate to make the problem worse.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 9:01 PM

    Government are in hiding.shame on them.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 9:17 PM

    @@mdmak33: They haven’t really hidden. Their agencies have taken up the fight against Apollo Hse and the organisers.
    Apollo Hse and the organisers are not on the list of approved charities, they don’t depend on government funding, the approved charities do.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 10:31 PM

    @@mdmak33:was just thinking that my sled not a word from any of them . Especially independents where are u all gone

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 11:18 PM

    @John Scott: the politicians are certainly running scared on this one.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 10:07 PM

    @Scarlett Milton: Home Sweet Home and Apollo House is primarily about generating a critical mass of awareness of and motivation to address the homeless crisis.

    This is about issues and not about personalities.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 10:55 PM

    I smell a rat on this. So PMVT are offering all tenants of Apollo a 6 month residential opportunity? How quick was that?! They are trying to undermine the positivity of what has happened by reducing the nightly count in Apollo to zero quickly. They are working through government funded charities to do so. We saw through it Kenny. .

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 11:17 PM

    @saoirse janneau: it does seem very odd that 6 month spaces should open up with such remarkable speed.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 11:30 PM

    It’s stretching things to suggest that these spaces were planned and provided in a week. The truth of the matter, that these spaces were planned already, might not suit Brendan ogle’s election purposes, but everyone but the paranoid conspiracy theorists can understand it.

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 11:42 PM

    @John Mulligan: then thankfully Apollo House played an invaluable role as a stop gap measure to accommodate more than 35 homeless people as Storm Barbara approaches.

    I take the people involved in Home Sweet Home as principled, humane, idealistic and altruistic. I include Ogle in that.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 3:47 AM

    @Micheal OLainn @saoirse janneau: I think it´s very important right now to be careful not to direct our (very justified anger) towards PMVT. A charity who have applauded the newcomers Home Sweet Home and have decades of experience of fighting homelessness are not the people we need to put under the microscope. Direct your anger and your misgivings towards the governement. What´s their response?

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 8:14 AM

    @Micheal OLainn: It’s a very clever spin attack, meant to divide public opinion and remove the huge support the Apollo Hse has received from the public.
    The government’s usual response to any display of people power.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 10:01 AM

    @Dave Doyle: you are absolutely right and I found myself falling for it.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 10:04 AM

    @Micheál Clesham: I truly accept your valid and justified criticism. Well said and I hold the McVerry trust and FathercMcVerry in the highest esteem. Indeed I have made donations but I feel protective of the Apollo House initiative which is beleaguered from many sides, most lately from Dublin City Council.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 11:17 AM
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    Dec 22nd 2016, 9:10 PM

    32 have not taken up the offer yet .. that’s sad really ..

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    Dec 22nd 2016, 11:15 PM

    @Dave Doyle: brilliant and comprehensive comment.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 1:46 AM

    what kind of trolls were out tonight?

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 3:51 AM

    @John Byrne: I don´t disagree with some of what you´ve said (i although i´m not sure where you´re going with the last line).
    But, did the fight against homelessness not need a publicity stunt? Surely no one believes that anything about Apollo House is long term but was there any harm in throwing up a hail-mary move like this?

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 7:35 AM

    @Scarlett Milton: You’re a typical example of ‘you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t’. This is not about personalities, and your attitude is unhelpful and you’re simply just looking to stir this typical online drama to pass your time. Be original for gods sake and find something else to poke at!!

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 9:44 AM

    Give it another 3 weeks or so and nobody will give a flying f€&k until Christmas comes around again and Glen gets all festive emotional again. It’s government action that is needed not out of work crusties singin Kumbuya.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 10:05 AM

    @TellingItAsItIs: thankfully you will be proven wrong. Your low class jibes discredit your feeble point. The flag has been raised.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 10:28 AM

    @Michael Mark my words. You’ll be eating crusty humble pie as soon as a few of their dole days comes around.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 8:09 AM

    @John Byrne: A load of bollixology from you. It’s not about Brendan Ogle or the organisers. It’s all about the government and its neo-liberal market primacy ideology that turns human need in a for profit commodity. A government that has farmed out its responsibilities to charities. Charities where the majority of the funding goes on salaries and a pittance goes where it’s intended.
    Apollo Hse has shown people what can be done when people organise themselves and use the resources at their disposal, the vacant, public owned buildings, to give some respite to the most disadvantaged in society. And it terrifies the government.
    The PMVT versus Apollo Hse spin we are now seeing spread across the media is phase two of the government’s response. The first being the very fast court action. This latest stunt to divide people and get the government off the hook wont work if the truth is told. What PMVT is offering the homeless is also a long time in the planning. It too offers the homeless a genuine alternative to a shop doorway, or a mat covered floorspace, that takes no account of the homeless’s problems, needs, safety or dignity. That’s the best DCC can come up with.
    Public leaders are well entitled to demand how the government spends the resources. That’s democracy. The government’s sworn duty is to use the resources of the state for the benefit of ALL its citizens. The government and its love for a market driven ideology does not serve its ALL citizens. It serves only a select few.

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    Dec 23rd 2016, 10:22 AM

    75 Social housing units built this year, the government’s reluctance to provide council housing is why we are here, they put it on to private landlords to fill the gap through RAS and it hasn’t worked, it’s basically privatisation of Social housing, there are always going to be people who cannot afford to buy their own house and these people should be accommodated by Social housing.

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