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CMO Dr Tony Holohan says the 'responsible thing' is not to plan Christmas parties

Holohan wared of at least 200,000 cases in December but said this can be be prevented.

LAST UPDATE | 17 Nov 2021

CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER Dr. Tony Holohan has said the “responsible thing” for public health was not to plan “major socialisation events” like Christmas parties. 

Holohan said this evening that the spread of Covid-19 in this country and the pressure on healthcare services meant that normal levels of Christmas socialising was not advisable.  

“We really do not have the capacity as a country to have significant Christmas-type levels of socialisation in the run into Christmas if we’re if we’re to turn this around,” Holohan told The Hard Shoulder on Newstalk. 

I think a very responsible thing for people who are in a position, whether they’re organising Christmas parties or where they’re responsible for the health and well-being and welfare of their staff and their customers, a responsible thing to do would be to conclude that now is not is not an ideal time to be planning major socialisation events that don’t need to happen.

Asked about weddings that may be planned in the forthcoming weeks, Holohan said that weddings are a “different situation” as they “an important milestone” and are planned long in advance 

His comments come as a senior minister said earlier that “last thing” the government wants is tough restrictions in the run up to Christmas.

Minister for Foreign Affairs Simon Coveney said the government will assess the impact of the measures in the coming weeks to see “whether we’ve done enough” but that further restrictions can’t be ruled out. 

The Deputy CMO Dr Ronan Glynn said this evening that up to 200,000 people could be infected in December but that it is not “inevitable”.

Glynn told Six One on RTÉ there is no “silver bullet” to prevent the surge in cases: “It’s really important, I think, to move the commentary away from what has been part of the commentary . . . that there’s a silver bullet, that antigen testing is going to sort this out, that boosters vaccines are going to sort this out, that more PCR testing is going to sort this out.”

Instead, he said method such as mask wearing, cutting down social contacts and avoiding crowded locations will help prevent the spread of infection. 

Earlier today, Holohan warned that the new measures introduced by government would not be sufficient if people who were symptomatic ignored the advice to self-isolate and avail of a PCR test. 

Holohan said that NPHET modelling showed that there could be a minimum of 200,000 cases of Covid-19 across the month of December but that this was “not inevitable” if people followed public health advice. 

Holohan said that he was not predicting the number of cases as they were preventable but that it could be “double” that 200,000 figure.  

Over the past two weeks, over 55,000 cases of Covid-19 have been confirmed in this country, leading to an increase in people hospitalised with the virus. 

“We think that about 2%, in other words 20 out of every 1,000, of those cases might occur will end up in hospital. All cases will be advised to restrict to self-isolate, and their contacts will be advised to restrict their movements,” Holohan told RTÉ’s News at One

That’s a lot of people in hospital potentially 4000 or more. It’s a lot of people being asked to self isolate and restrict movements, none of those people are infected yet. 

“A time of year when none of us wants to be faced with going into hospital or having a loved one going into hospital. None of us wants to be faced with being advised to restrict our movements or to self isolate.”

He added: “If you’re going to have an infection in December that infection hasn’t been picked up yet, so a minimum of 200,000 cases occurring in December, all of which are preventable.”

Public health measures

A number of measures were announced yesterday as part of efforts to stem Covid cases in hospital, among them a new midnight end for pubs and nightclubs and the reimposition of advice that people should work from home unless it’s “absolutely necessary”. 

In a further move which attempts to limit the spread of the virus, anyone living in a household of someone who is a confirmed case of Covid-19 is to be asked to restrict their movements for five days. 

Speaking last night after the measures were announced, Taoiseach Micheál Martin said that NPHET had advised on the measures but that it could not be guaranteed that they would be sufficient to bring cases to a manageable level. 

Asked today was the government therefore delaying the inevitability that further restrictions would be required, Foreign Affairs Minister Simon Coveney said he doesn’t believe this to be the case. 

“No, I hope not but of course we will have to wait and see how the virus behaves and the numbers in ICU and the numbers in hospital, we are predicting now that somewhere between 1,000 to 2,000 people could be in hospital with Covid and the numbers in ICU could could go above 200. That puts huge pressure on our system,” he said. 

Speaking about the new restrictions, he said: 

This is about trying to avoid a more severe restrictions on people. It’s about effectively recalibrating our response and recognising that large numbers of people in nightclubs and late night bars is a risk factor that we think it’s responsible to remove for now. 

Coveney said that he’s aware that the effective curfew on nightclubs will have consequences on the sector but that “it’s not the job of government not to make popular decisions”.

“I think it’s the right decision, we can’t rule out further restriction and we will simply have to follow the behavior of this virus in the weeks ahead to see whether we’ve done enough to protect society through winter, or whether we need to do more,” he added.

“But certainly the last thing the government wants is another severe series of restrictions in the build up to Christmas.”

You can’t provide guarantees on anything when it comes to Covid, that’s surely one thing we’ve learned, we’ve all learned over the last 18 months or so. And we have to respond to the evidence as it’s presented.

The minister said that in the coming weeks people will see “an acceleration of boosters” and that he has spoken to his counterpart in Israel who outlined the effectiveness of boosters in preventing hospitalisations.

In his interview this afternoon, Holohan outlined what people who are syptmoatic and close contacts of a confirmed case should do. 

“People who are cases and who are symptomatic, they simply must self-isolate and they get a PCR test, not an antigen test a PCR test. So if you have symptoms, stay at home, arrange for a PCR test, and if those people can comply with the advice to self isolation, and the people who are their close to contacts particularly those who live with them, can restrict their movements and be antigen tested as they restrict those movements, we think that is the behaviour that is most important.”

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    Jul 19th 2012, 6:17 PM

    He’ll go down a tyrant to a lot of people.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 7:15 PM

    Yessssss ! Very powerful you did become Jedi master George !

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    Jul 19th 2012, 8:44 PM

    Isn’t this the guy who said the French don’t have a word for entrepreneurism?

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    Jul 19th 2012, 6:22 PM

    Ye he made a mess off Iraq all right

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    Jul 19th 2012, 6:48 PM

    Possibly the worst president in US history…

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    Jul 19th 2012, 6:50 PM

    nixon maybe?

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    Jul 19th 2012, 7:05 PM

    Obama running close

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    Jul 19th 2012, 8:15 PM

    (Apologies in advance, I’m a history nerd)…
    Bush was an imbecile, but he’s by no means the worst. America has elected some total fudds through the years. The best thing about Bush is that history will forget him. He’ll be ranked in the lower third of all presidents. In years to come, he’ll simply be overlooked. He’ll be as famous as Millard Filmore or Chester A Aurthur.
    Nixon was good at the job – some would argue he was the best president ever for foreign affairs – but he was paranoid and what ultimately brought him down was lying about covering up for something someone else did. It’s a pretty ‘blah’ way to go.
    I have a soft spot for Obama, but it’s too early to tell where to place him. I don’t think he’s lived up to people’s expectations, but he never could have. He inherited a mess, but he also let his opponents run wild around him while he should have put some manner on them.
    I personally think that James Buchanan was the worst. Amongst other things, he had the opportunity to stop the spread of slavery and he just stood back and let it happen.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 6:30 PM

    Guy was a joke….glad to see the back of him!

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    Jul 19th 2012, 6:42 PM

    Some people aspire to power, some people attain power, others receive it as a graduation gift from daddy besides being a C average student who hid in the Taxas national air guard while poor peoples kids got sent to die for their country.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 6:25 PM

    no more evil than obama or clinton,just know where near as slick or suave..

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    Jul 19th 2012, 6:31 PM

    .. and less intelligent.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 9:09 PM

    you serious!! GWB is the ultimate example of somebody being elevated way way way above their level of competence all because of his family name, his religious beliefs and his neo-con connections. He was pitiful. Grossly unfair to compare him to Clinton or Obama.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 9:22 PM

    Is grossly unfair on Clinton who probably had the most effective presidency in the last 30 years

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    Jul 19th 2012, 7:22 PM

    Goodbye to that snicker
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    Adios to the “leader”
    Who never did care

    I speak of Katrina
    As he flew overhead
    We can talk of our soldiers
    Four thousand-plus dead

    Or maybe the workers
    Who Enron sold out
    Perhaps deregulation
    And the greed it would flout

    Might mention the warnings
    In the NSA brief
    With a vacant expression
    Our Commander in Chief

    While Towers were falling
    He read “My Pet Goat”
    A half-hearted mission (Afghanistan)
    Then a too early gloat (“Mission Accomplished”)

    Tax cuts for rich folks
    The planet a foe
    Faith as a weapon
    Divisions would grow

    Never held interest
    In the interests of all
    Exclusive for zealots
    With a self-righteous call

    Gitmo and “Brownie”
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    The low road he strove

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    In every step taken
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    As grown cold to your schtick

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    Jul 19th 2012, 7:37 PM

    would ya get away with your feckin poetry!

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    Jul 20th 2012, 8:33 AM

    I’ll give you that one. Actual found it worth the read.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 7:12 PM

    I won’t be happy till I see him and Blair in the Dock in the Hague accused of War Crimes

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    Jul 19th 2012, 7:21 PM

    They should be hanged for the deaths of thousands of innocent men, women and children and their own troops. All just to make rich men richer.

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    It’s so cool to hate Bush and love Obama. I reckon if you questioned most of these sheep, they couldn’t tell you much about either mans policies.

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    I hate them both …. I’d vote Nader or Paul any day

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    Jul 19th 2012, 7:20 PM

    Darth Nader?

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    Jul 19th 2012, 6:24 PM

    Carole Coleman put the rule to him.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 6:34 PM

    your a modern american president,your evil-fact..its an evil global imperialistic empire run by evil people

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    Jul 19th 2012, 7:43 PM

    He should be sharing a cell with Radovan Karadic in the Hague. A war criminal, nothing more, nothing less..

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    Jul 19th 2012, 7:00 PM

    He could have just come out and say it: “I just want a life without consequences”

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    Jul 19th 2012, 7:42 PM

    Yeah I think I would want out of the limelight too,if I were a war criminal,although hasn’t done much damage to Henry Kissenger!!!

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    Jul 19th 2012, 8:08 PM

    I’m actually beginning to enjoy the poems, now that I’ve stopped scrolling past em.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 8:19 PM

    Yeah, they’re better that most of the drivel written on here, including my own. Keep it up, even if it is just to piss the people off that hate poetry.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 8:30 PM

    The man is very much misunderstood in Ireland unfortunately. His legacy on education, freedom and health (especially AIDS in Africa) will have long term benefits and will be looked upon positively in the future. It’s a shame the Irish media is so biased that most you Iraq is, despite the naysayers, is a much better place than under Saddam’s evil regime. It ain’t perfect but the candle of freedom still flickers and will become a beacon in the future. Another ignored aspect of the Iraqi success story from a geo-political aspect is that Iraq is no firmly back in the Shiite camp in the Islamic world. This is causing overdue headaches to Saudi Arabia (just look at Bahrain and the growing Iraqi / Iranian nexus) and is a warning shot to the Saudis to rein in their sponsorship of violent terrorism – and it looks like they listened. It was a smart move as invading Saudi Arabia would have had a lot more downside than Iraq. God bless him.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 8:35 PM

    Keep living in that bubble mate.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 8:54 PM

    Some seriously powerful hallucinogens you’re on there Patrick.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 10:01 PM

    Did you cut and paste that from his bio? Are you currently in drug rehab? Are you tweeting from Guantanamo hoping to get out? You’re nucking futs.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 10:29 PM

    Are you an American Republican by any chance???!!

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    Jul 20th 2012, 8:53 AM

    You haven’t a clue lad, The US and Saudi have been knee deep in it together, always have been, there was never a question of attacking them. Their sponsor of terrorism ensures the States always haev a war to fight and oil rich land to secure after they get in and restructure power. Also the Shiite/Sunni camp are the ones making live difficult for the Shia, they are the trouble makers in northern Iran and the ones happily attacking Syria now for western and their own interests.
    They want Syria and Iran destabilised and Sunni controlled as they are both Shia, Iran being friendly with Bassad an Alawi part of Shia and Iran the largest Shia country in the region with approx 85-90% Shia. So Saudi want Syria gone as much as the Israeli and US. With Bassad being Alawi or Shia along with others hold the majority power in a predominantly Sunni country.

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    I loved that poem!

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    Great comedian, he will be missed..

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    Biggest socialist ever … No child left behind +2 the size of Medicare… Bankrupted the country … Now Obama is doing the same butter and bullets economic policy of failed kensianism

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    You could at least learn to spell “Keynesian”?

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    Jul 19th 2012, 10:02 PM

    He can never disappear from public life. His dumb ass is just too entertaining.

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    Jul 20th 2012, 12:58 AM

    Frankly it is a little short sighted to say GWB was all bad. I am not a fan of him or his party but his actions as President have helped ease the crisis which currently faces Africa. Yes he made serious mistakes but he also has been an agent of positive change. Like him or loathe him, he does deserve some respect.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 10:32 PM

    You should read “The American Wife”.. A very thinly veiled account of his presidency and marriage to Laura Bush. A wry observation and a great read.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 10:39 PM

    Step in front of a lorry

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    Jul 20th 2012, 1:49 AM

    If he does, it pales in comparison to the disrespect that he justly deserves.

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    Jul 19th 2012, 11:32 PM

    Awful policies particularly on the financial sector but the Democrats have a lot to answer for there, and the farce in Iraq and Afghanistan was his own creation but I have a sneaking regard for him. Needless to say I’d rather meet him then Obama. Obama is not the god the media make him out be whereas with Bush you get what you see. I also liked his book, well written and an interesting read.

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    “There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee…..that says, fool me once, shame on…..[awkward pause]….shame on you. Fool me….[worse awkward pause]…..You can’t get fooled again”

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    Jul 19th 2012, 10:41 PM

    @Andy Murray , to be fair Chester A. Arthur did get his 5 mins of fame in “die hard with a vengeance” with Bruce Willis and Laurence Fishbourne !

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    Jul 19th 2012, 11:31 PM

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    Jul 20th 2012, 10:28 AM

    A war monger blood of the innocent on his hands wmds my ass

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