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'Enormous unease' about schools reopening amid concerns about teacher substitutes, unions say

Education Minister Norma Foley said that the next few weeks would be challenging.

LAST UPDATE | 5 Jan 2022

THE ASTI HAS said that there is “enormous unease” among their members ahead of the schools reopening, as the INTO said there “isn’t a hope” of getting enough substitute teachers to cover absences in schools over the coming weeks.

“There will be situations where there will be classes at home, there will be situations where schools will have to do a bit of juggling,” John Boyle of the INTO said today.

In response, Education Minister Norma Foley said there will be challenges in the weeks ahead, but added that an additional 2,500 student teachers and retired teachers are being made available to fill those gaps.

When asked whether the Department of Education or the principal makes the final decision on whether a class goes home or a school closes, Foley said that “schools know their own situation on the ground, but schools can draw the resource of the department and the inspectors in particular, so that they can work through the best solution”.

Minister Foley told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland that the Department of Education will work “hand-in-hand” with schools, and that a helpline is going live this morning and will be in place over seven days to answer principals’ and teachers’ queries. 

The Government has insisted since last December that schools would open as planned on 6 January; following a meeting between the Minister for Education, Department officials, unions and school representatives yesterday, it was decided that schools would open tomorrow as planned.

Minister for Education Norma Foley said that children and young people “are best served by in-person teaching and learning, and this remains a priority”. Public health officials said there was “no public health rationale” to delaying the reopening of schools.

A staggered and delayed return to schools had been requested by the main secondary-level teachers union the ASTI and the secondary school students union the ISSU.

‘Absences of up to 50%’

The General Secretary of the ASTI Kieran Christie told Newstalk Breakfast today that there was “enormous unease” among their members regarding the safety of members and students amid the Omicron wave.

“It wasn’t the dominant strain before Christmas and there is understandable concern around that,” he said, adding that they accepted the public health advice.

“But that doesn’t mean that our members don’t have great unease,” he said- with as many as 10-50% of ASTI-member teachers absent due to Covid in some schools.

Christie said that among the ASTI’s requests that had not been met during talks yesterday was making medical grade masks a requirement in school settings instead of fabric masks that children wear.

When the Education Minister was asked was she in favour of a derogation for teachers in relation to close contact rules, she said she would not be seeking that.

On HEPA filters, a bone of contention between school communities and the Government, Christie was told that only 17 schools had applied for the Government fund for filtration systems, made available after considerable pressure from the public and schools.

“I’d be astonished that any school would leave money in Marlborough Street… There’s been no audit on the HEPA filters in schools,” he said, suggesting that schools may have bought their own filters before the fund was brought in, or didn’t have time yet to apply for the funding.

Some additional measures

Ireland’s main primary-level teachers’ union the INTO has said that some assurances have been given to them during talks with the Department yesterday; including more student teachers being made available to teach; and school inspectors being made available to assess where teaching priority should be given.

The INTO also said that the Government had yesterday “finally agreed” to provide primary school teachers with medical-grade facemasks; Norma Foley suggested on RTÉ radio today that the unions had simply asked public health to take “one more look at the issue of face masks” and public health officials had said they will do that – and that public health officials had concluded “they’re satisfied currently with the measures”.

However, the union “fundamentally rejects” the findings of the public health review which concluded that contact tracing should not be reinstated in primary schools. “We will continue to demand that this essential support be reinstated,” it said.

Contact tracing is currently in place in special schools and secondary schools, but not in primary schools.

John Boyle of the INTO told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland that there is a huge amount of evidence had been presented to them that children are not driving the huge numbers of infections in society – instead it’s the 16-19 age group and people up to 44 years of age that is having a knock-on effect on children.

But he said that there wasn’t a hope of getting enough replacement teachers to cover the extent of the shortages of teachers in schools.

“There isn’t a hope that we’re going to have enough replacement teachers and that’s me being honest and frank. Where would we get them? Even if they were to free up the first years and the second years in the colleges of education, of course they are not ready to be taking charge of a class.”

The Irish Second-level Students’ Union (ISSU) has also criticised the decision to announce a full reopening of schools “with a two-day notice”, and said that the shortage of school staff and student absences had not been properly addressed.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:16 AM

    Shows how incredibly removed he is from empathy with other humans and he’s an influencer? That’s worrying.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:58 AM

    @Deborah Behan: if you’re being “influenced” by the like of him you need a reality check.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 1:51 PM

    @Bourbon: Fool!

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 3:00 PM

    @Matt Beaumont: why?

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:47 AM

    ‘Troll attention wh0re does something that outrages Twitter allowing journal to post same story twice in 2 days with different headlines for more clicks’ This will be 2018 journalism in a nutshell.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:41 AM

    Not once did he make any effort to help the person. It was just a nature documentary for him. Stop letting your kids watch this tripe.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:58 AM

    @Liam Byrne:
    What exactly do you think he could have done to help the person?

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 11:00 AM

    @Liam Byrne: The guy was dead since that morning so there wasn’t much he could have done.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 11:03 AM

    @Brian Ward: well, there was a lot more he could have done – nothing to save that persons life, but he could have called the authorities instead of filming and joking around!

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 11:45 AM

    @meatyslaps: He did call the police or rather he asked his guide to call the police.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 12:55 PM

    @Walt Jabsco: Maybe not film them?

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 1:24 PM

    @Brian Ward: how did he know he was dead. Is he a physician. He had no idea how long he was there.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 1:25 PM

    @Tom Tom:
    I’m not defending him – filming the victim was in extremely bad taste and he fully deserves the public backlash he’s getting.
    I’m just asking what exactly Liam thinks should have been done that would have helped the victim. Not much as far as I can see.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 2:11 PM

    @Liam Byrne: The guide that was with hi said that the victim was there since morning so I assume (since the victims features were pixeled out) that it was obvious that he or she was dead for some time.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 2:15 PM

    @Brian Ward: so it sounds like the guide found the body earlier and then brought the guy to it?

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 3:36 PM

    @Brian Ward: what could he have done? How about donating ALL the money he received in click-commission from his advertisers to a suicide-prevention charity?

    FFS even his ‘Apology’ video is making him heaps of $$$ in advertising revenue!

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    Mute Brian Ward
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    Jan 3rd 2018, 4:20 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: No, it sounds more like that this wasn’t the first time the guide had found a dead body and knew the signs of rigor mortise. He even says that a friend of his killed himself a few years back. The body was hanging so i am assuming that there was definite signs that it had happened long before the crew got there.

    Anyway what does it matter? What really matters is that this Logan clown didn’t even have the decency to take off the ridiculous Pokemon hat that he was wearing after finding the body, his crew members couldn’t stop snig-gering and Logan some how makes it all about him and not the victim. Any decent human being would have shown much more respect in such tragic circumstances and made it about raising awareness of mental health and suicide rather than making a show to boost his own ego and ratings.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 4:22 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I actually posted my last reply about 2 hours ago but the Journals word filters apparently consider the word s n i g g e r i n g to be offensive! The obviously have their filters set at the top snowflake level.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 4:46 PM

    @Brian Ward: The filters are obviously automated, and it is quite obvious as to why it was blocked.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 5:02 PM

    @Brian Ward: I always thought it was snickering

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 5:06 PM

    @Brian Ward: I don’t understand what you’re arguing about, I only asked a question. I am not going to watch the video because that helps this s(umbag

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:06 AM

    He’s got one of those heads you’d love to punch. Bellend

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:34 AM

    Ar$ehole – Youtube should get some criticism too, they should not have allowed it to go live.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 12:34 PM

    @Eddie O’Neill: I think that the problem there is that there are so many videos being uploaded every second that YouTube can’t watch and verify every single one of them. They have to wait until someone flags it and then take it down.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 1:11 PM

    @Brian Ward: it was flagged and YouTube manually reviewed it, said it was OK and placed it on the trending page.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 1:18 PM

    @Richard Flynn: Ah well in that case the reviewer should get a bollicking.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 11:47 AM

    Note how YouTube and Google have released a statement condemning it, but this video was on the top ten trending list 2 days ago. YouTube handpick their trending videos!

    Just shows they would have had no problem monetising this if there hadn’t been a large public outcry. Now they are pretending they are just as outraged, they ignored their own terms of use policies for their golden boy. Makes me ashamed the lows people are willing to stoop to for a few clicks

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 12:17 PM

    @Cian Rynne: not to mention all the other very many violent horrible videos available on YouTube as it stands.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:42 AM

    It’s so sad that this mans actions that were wrong are the focus and not a Forrest that is known for suicide. I see our government and agencies patting each other on what is a brilliant thing that less people dies on our roads. Will we have any one with the balls to tell us what our suicide rate is nationally and is it on the rise or falling. Having lost friends and family to suicide people in the right place are afraid to talk about the numbers

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:21 AM

    This story was run a few days ago on the journal

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:24 AM

    @Nick Allen: thanks for the heads up

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:10 AM

    Absolute braindead pri!!k that knows f all about living in the real world..

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 5:04 PM

    Most worrying aspect this was the support he received from his young fan base the defended him.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 6:26 PM

    @Grimm: kinda makes you think what the youth of today are going to be like as adults…. mindless lil sheep.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:46 AM

    It’s the media making a fuss , the guy apologized FFS

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 11:00 AM

    This moran should be prosecuted, teach this selfish git a lesson….

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 11:02 AM

    @Johnnie Sexton: For what? He might be an ahole but I doubt he broke any laws.

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 1:54 PM

    @Johnnie Sexton: Don‘t allow your children to watch that knob anymore!
    No viewers, no money for the moron!
    Plain and simple

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:06 AM

    You know your fooked when you piss off Japan!!!

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    Jan 3rd 2018, 10:07 AM

    @Warren Collier: you’re

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